#207579 - 08/16/24 08:36 AM
Re: M-1 Carbines
[Re: Windsor]
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Rob, As we all know,the gov't is not happy w/o loads and loads of paperwork.
Believe it or not,in my state at least,it is easier to get a class 3 item and less paperwork than a standard firearm. Basically one form and that's it.
One of the guys at the range had his tax stamp in three days.
I fired some M-2s while in 'Nam and found that I liked semi-auto better. Full auto in any configuration is basically a waste of ammo. At least in my opinion.
Wayne
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#207580 - 08/16/24 10:37 AM
Re: M-1 Carbines
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Yeah, I fully understand that.
I had the same itch with a bona-fide German Luger. Had to have one. Finally got one, shot it, PITA to load mags, cleaned it, "meh."
I suspect my desire for the M-2 kit would be much the same, but the itch exists nonetheless.
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#207582 - 08/16/24 05:40 PM
Re: M-1 Carbines
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Hi,I collect Carbines, most I got from the CMP. I also had a yen for an M2 but the one I found several years ago was $6000. This was several years ago but too rich for me, regards, Mike
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#207584 - 08/17/24 09:13 AM
Re: M-1 Carbines
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Mike, Yep, six grand is way too much for that for sure!!
I remember in the early 60s,when you could buy guns by mail,a shop called Ye Olde Hunters Warehouse in Alexandria ,VA was offering M-1 carbine I thionk for about $49. Garands were $79 and 1917 Colt/S&Ws for $29.
DCM carbines back then were insanely cheap.
I remember in 'Nam seeing a warehouse with crates of carbines stacked up. Knowing the military,when we pulled out,they were probably dumped in the Tonkin Gulf.
I remember in the book Shots Fired in Anger,the author,a WW 2 vet said that the best weapon for the Pacific campaign was the little carbine.
Like I had said before,that little carbine would be an ideal patrol car rifle.
Wayne
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#207585 - 08/17/24 09:28 AM
Re: M-1 Carbines
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Hi Wayne, " Shots Fired in Anger" by Lt. Col. John George is a great book. He was a target shooter that went to the same High School as my sister ( 20 years apart ). He said the school in Chicago had a rifle range in the basement. The CMP had carbines in 2009 and the cheapest were $350, regards, Mike
PS: this book is available on Amazon Kindle for 99 cents
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#207588 - 08/18/24 09:03 AM
Re: M-1 Carbines
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Mike, I remember in that book where Col,George had said that he had cut down a 15 round magazine to six rounds and it would fit flush with the stock.
It made the carbine that much more sleek/handy.
I remember back in '67 when Ruger came out with a Blackhawk in 30 carbine. A buddy of mine in the Navy bought one and being he was an avid reloader,needed brass.
No sweat,I "aquired" a case of fired brass and gave it to him.
If memory serves me right,he had also gotten a carbine through the DCM at that time as a companion to the Ruger.
I think that would make a nice combination.
Wayne
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#207589 - 08/18/24 10:57 AM
Re: M-1 Carbines
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Hi Wayne, I had a Ruger and found that GI Lake City ammo would get stuck in the cylinder on firing. I never figured out why; maybe too hot. Commercial ammo was great and I even worked up a load using a .308 sized 32 lead cast SWC. I finally decided it wasn't worth the effort and sold the revolver. regards, Mike
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#207590 - 08/18/24 11:08 AM
Re: M-1 Carbines
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Automag III was .30 carbine, too.
Those are getting kinda rare, prices are reflecting that.
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#207594 - 08/19/24 08:21 AM
Re: M-1 Carbines
[Re: Windsor]
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Mike, Maybe the Lake City ammo was a bit hot for the Ruger.
My friend worked up a load for the Ruger and carbine using H-110 which was the powder designed for that round,using the Speer 100 half jacket lead bullet.
It functioned well in the carbine and,of course,in the Ruger.
Being that the powder was designed for the carbine bbl,muzzle flash from the Ruger was a bit...............interesting.
Wayne
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