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#82767 - 11/07/10 10:36 AM Re: How Stainless is Randall’s Stainless [Re: TomD]
fabio Knife Enthusiast Registered: 03/22/10 Posts: 178 Loc: como italy	my question is because cpms30v has much carbon and little cromium respect the randall 440b .then 440b is much stainless respect s30v but you haven't equals resistance in cut where win s30v. clean knife fastly after fishing and you haven't a problem whit rust. for sheath need to be only in kidex _________________________ RKS #6017
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#82768 - 11/07/10 11:00 AM Re: How Stainless is Randall’s Stainless [Re: fabio]
TomD Knife Enthusiast Registered: 08/14/10 Posts: 30	If I follow what you're saying, the Randall should be more resistant to rust than Reeve's knife based on carbon and chromium content. I haven't seen the issue as much as you suggest with the CPMS30V because of the blade coating and the oil I've been putting on the blade edge before each outing. This isn't ideal since it washes off and more importantly I don't want to contaminate the flesh of fish I'm going to eat with either oil or rust. Edited by TomD (11/07/10 11:03 AM) Edit Reason: typo
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#82770 - 11/07/10 11:13 AM Re: How Stainless is Randall’s Stainless [Re: TomD]
Captain Chris Stanaback Knife Enthusiast Registered: 09/14/05 Posts: 13129 Loc: Central Florida	Pick up a "nylon" diver's sheath from the Randall shop. You can wash it and dry it in the clothes dryer before you put your #16 Special Fighter back in it and that problem is solved. I have 2 Navy divers who buy from me out of Pensacola. One has used his #16 "Diver's" for so long (over 20 years) that he has worn out 3 sheaths...but..."No Rust"!! It is, after all "stain"less" steel...not stain"proof" steel. Best, Capt. Chris _________________________ Capt.Chris Stanaback RKCC/RKCA Founder RKS #016 NRA Lifetime Member CAPTSTANABACK@aol.com WEBSITE: www.captstanaback.com
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#82771 - 11/07/10 12:09 PM Re: How Stainless is Randall’s Stainless [Re: TomD]
crutchtip Knife Enthusiast Registered: 11/16/05 Posts: 2855	Originally Posted By: TomD .........and more importantly I don't want to contaminate the flesh of fish I'm going to eat with either oil or rust. First, a little iron oxide isn't going to hurt you. Secondly and most important, you need to rethink the use of your #16 if you are planning to clean fish with it. It is not designed for that task and will not work effectively if at all.
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#82772 - 11/07/10 01:44 PM Re: How Stainless is Randall’s Stainless [Re: crutchtip]
TomD Knife Enthusiast Registered: 08/14/10 Posts: 30	Capt Chris - I think the nylon sheath is a good suggestion. It will certainly shed water faster than leather. My current plier sheath is leather and I have to hang it separate from the pliers to dry. Crutchtip - Interesting point. For clarity, I won't be filleting fish with it but I'd be shocked if it couldn't gut one. For 20 years that I dove and speared fish, a US divers knife and later a Wenoka knife worked just fine. Both were double hilt, were 7 and 6 inches respectively but they each did have a more pronounced point. They also were just 3/16" not 1/4" but gutting a fish is a pretty course process. Are you suggesting the Divers version is more appropriate? Edited by TomD (11/07/10 01:45 PM) Edit Reason: typo
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#82773 - 11/07/10 01:53 PM Re: How Stainless is Randall’s Stainless [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
Leatherman Knife Enthusiast Registered: 01/06/06 Posts: 1371 Loc: IL	Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback Pick up a "nylon" diver's sheath from the Randall shop. You can wash it and dry it in the clothes dryer before you put your #16 Special Fighter back in it and that problem is solved. I have 2 Navy divers who buy from me out of Pensacola. One has used his #16 "Diver's" for so long (over 20 years) that he has worn out 3 sheaths...but..."No Rust"!! It is, after all "stain"less" steel...not stain"proof" steel. Best, Capt. Chris Have any pics or a story of how you or someone you know rusted a 440B Randall? _________________________ Ben
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#82774 - 11/07/10 01:53 PM Re: How Stainless is Randall’s Stainless [Re: TomD]
Leatherman Knife Enthusiast Registered: 01/06/06 Posts: 1371 Loc: IL	Originally Posted By: TomD Capt Chris - I think the nylon sheath is a good suggestion. It will certainly shed water faster than leather. My current plier sheath is leather and I have to hang it separate from the pliers to dry. Crutchtip - Interesting point. For clarity, I won't be filleting fish with it but I'd be shocked if it couldn't gut one. For 20 years that I dove and speared fish, a US divers knife and later a Wenoka knife worked just fine. Both were double hilt, were 7 and 6 inches respectively but they each did have a more pronounced point. They also were just 3/16" not 1/4" but gutting a fish is a pretty course process. Are you suggesting the Divers version is more appropriate? Call the shop, they may still have a 16 SF in stock. _________________________ Ben
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#82775 - 11/07/10 02:00 PM Re: How Stainless is Randall’s Stainless [Re: Leatherman]
TomD Knife Enthusiast Registered: 08/14/10 Posts: 30	I already own a 16 SF with a double hilt which I wish was a single hilt. If I order a Diver version I'd get a nickel single hilt with a square top and thumb notches. I hear there are better alternatives to Ebay and faster alternatives 5 year shop wait.
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#82776 - 11/07/10 02:15 PM Re: How Stainless is Randall’s Stainless [Re: TomD]
fabio Knife Enthusiast Registered: 03/22/10 Posts: 178 Loc: como italy	Originally Posted By: TomD If I follow what you're saying, the Randall should be more resistant to rust than Reeve's knife based on carbon and chromium content. I haven't seen the issue as much as you suggest with the CPMS30V because of the blade coating and the oil I've been putting on the blade edge before each outing. This isn't ideal since it washes off and more importantly I don't want to contaminate the flesh of fish I'm going to eat with either oil or rust. the rust attack isn't very fast with all stainless steel. but if you want a steel more resistent you use randall 440b.if you want clean fish whit your diver use food vaselin , petrolium jelly isn't for food _________________________ RKS #6017
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#82777 - 11/07/10 02:18 PM Re: How Stainless is Randall’s Stainless [Re: Leatherman]
TonyLaPetri Knife Enthusiast Registered: 10/05/05 Posts: 6930 Loc: Glen Head NY	Quote: You are not going to go camping in the back country for a week plus and not have rust... unless you are always taking care of your knife and not using it! Sorry, I have to politely disagree. Not only camping but CANOE CAMPING ... FOR A WHOLE WEEK. Used the #5 every day, including kitchen duty. And when it wasn't being used in was in a canvas thwart bag (not waterproof) attached to a canoe cross brace right in front of my stern seat. After each use ... washed with clear water and dried it with a rag ... or my shirt or pants. I think keeping it clean and dry between uses is the key. _________________________ Tony LaPetri RKS#1885 RKCC CM-022
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