Bob, I forgot to mention that Reese was there in Bradford PA with Tony. Reese conducted a workshop on how folding knives are made and Tony "moderated." A great event. Tony said something about Reese being a "master" some day. I asked him what he meant. He said, "Well he's 36 now and still an apprentice, it's take him another 10-12 years or so!" Amazing, the skill level and mastery that Tony has achieved. I forgot to ask what Reese's waiting time is. Bill J.