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#50381 - 10/07/08 09:29 AM MuskRat Stockman
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Here is a nice MuskRat Stockman in Napanok Bone, ATS-34 blades

3 7/8" closed


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#50382 - 10/07/08 11:03 AM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: John_Nugent]
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Very sexy! Have't seen one of those before. I love that Napanoch bone. I hear there's not much of it left. Thanks for posting it.

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#50383 - 10/07/08 12:01 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: MRobuck]
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What a great looking knife. Is that Stockman in the current catalog? How do you call the thin clip blade? Where do the different bones come from and how is Remington different from Napanoch?

Sorry for the bunch of questions, and thank you in advance for your response.

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#50384 - 10/07/08 01:23 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: JM1]
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I too wondered about the different bones having different names. Sure is beautiful!
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#50385 - 10/07/08 03:33 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: Cabinet_Man]
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Wow is that a gorgeous knife.I like the rounded bolsters,ss blades! & look at that freakin' bone! Man John,yur killing me.
-Vince

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#50386 - 10/07/08 03:43 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: VCM]
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Paraphrased from Levine's Guide: Napanoch started making extemely high quality knives in 1900 and was bought out by Winchester in 1919. Some Napanoch employees started Honk Falls Knife Company, which lasted until 1929. A guy bought the Napanoch name from Winchester and made knives at the old location until 1939.

There are various Remington stamps, but Remington Arms Company/U.M.C made knives from 1919 to 1940. The first bullet knives were made in 1922.

To me the Napanoch bone looks like it has a wider or bigger jigging pattern in the bone. I would love to have a Bose knife in either.


Edited by John_Nugent (10/07/08 06:54 PM)

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#50387 - 10/07/08 06:10 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: VCM]
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Wow is that a gorgeous knife.I like the rounded bolsters,ss blades! & look at that freakin' bone! Man John,yur killing me.
-Vince



Didnt mean to kill ya....kinda did it for you Vince
That knife was won in a Blade Show Drawing (few years back) by one of nicest men I know....He saved it for me...

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#50388 - 10/07/08 06:12 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: MRobuck]
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Paraphrased from Levine's Guide: Napanoch started making extemely high quality knives in 1900 and was bought out by Winchester in 1919. Some Napanoch employees started Honk Falls Knife Company, which lasted until 1929. A guy bought the Napanoch name from Winchester and make knives at the old location until 1939.

There are various Remington stamps, but Remington Arms Company/U.M.C made knives from 1919 to 1940. The first bullet knives were made in 1922.

To me the Napanoch bone looks like it has a wider or bigger jigging pattern in the bone. I would love to have a Bose knife in either.




Could not have said it better MR...thanks
I may be able to scan some Napanoch Bone that was never put on a knife.

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#50389 - 10/07/08 07:31 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: John_Nugent]
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I've seen that Napanoch bone on some other makers knives & well,it didn't look like that!
-Vince


Edited by VCM (10/07/08 07:32 PM)

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#50390 - 10/08/08 03:41 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: VCM]
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Ok, let me see if I get it. I'd guess the bone is all basically the same; that is, from a cow's leg or something. Right?

Regarding the Remington and Napanoch, these are pieces of bone "prepared" (cut, dried, tinted, carved...) by each manufacturer? Thus, when a knifemaker uses a particular type of bone is because he got some of the bone remaining from either Remington or Napanoch in this case?

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#50391 - 10/08/08 04:39 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: JM1]
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Basically you are right…When these old Knife Companies went out of business the bone was bought up and every so often it surfaces.

I think it would be impossible today to reproduce the look of, lets say, Remington bone….

1, I don’t think anyone really knows how they did it…(which I find hard to believe, but it is true)...I have never heard of anyone that even knows what the machine even looked like that did the jigging.

2, the chemicals used to get that killer look may not be allowed today.

This is just my opinion of course

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#50392 - 10/09/08 10:15 AM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: John_Nugent]
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I thought that the names (i.e. Remington) could be just a style. And the knifemaker would just carve the bone and dye it. So that assumption is wrong, right? Thus, the "Remington bone" on my Bose knives is old bone from old Remington stock?

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#50393 - 10/09/08 03:44 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: JM1]
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I thought that the names (i.e. Remington) could be just a style. And the knifemaker would just carve the bone and dye it. So that assumption is wrong, right? Thus, the "Remington bone" on my Bose knives is old bone from old Remington stock?




Juan,
No doubt,the Rem Bone on your Bose knives is the old stuff.
Interesting where this thread is going & not to hijack,but,I am taking a delivery of a knife,hopefully tomorrow.The maker told me he had bone,that was jigged with tooling from something near to Rem. bone The coloring,he told me,is like amber bone,but the jigging,similar to Rem. bone So in this case,it is newly manufactured/jigged bone,replicating the Rem. bone jigging.
I'll post a picture/pictures of it,in JPN's "Bone Quiz" thread,if he allows/it's O.K..It is a knife(slipjoint) from a Bose pattern

I also have 2 custom slipjoints,that have jigged bone,that was from a German production knife co.,the maker told me it is around 80 years old.His supply,were pre-cut scales,left over stock
-Vince


Edited by VCM (10/09/08 03:50 PM)

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#50394 - 10/09/08 03:50 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: VCM]
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Vince,
Please feel free to Post Here...or There....we need to see it.

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#50395 - 10/09/08 07:30 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: John_Nugent]
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I love this place. We only need the lap dancers.

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#50396 - 10/09/08 07:54 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: JM1]
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I have a laptop....is that close enough??

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#50397 - 10/09/08 11:14 PM Re: MuskRat Stockman [Re: John_Nugent]
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I have a laptop....is that close enough??




Does it have boobies?

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