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#46338 - 08/13/08 10:58 PM musk ox
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Well in a couple of knife maker circles (Behrings/Randall's) musk ox handles are becoming quite the item. What are the choices for handle materials on Bose knives?

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#46339 - 08/14/08 01:32 PM Re: musk ox [Re: Chief]
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Handle materials available: Micarta, black or green a variety of jigged bones in assorted colors, mother of pearl, elephant & mammoth ivory & hardwoods. I have seen a few knives with Oosic and Orange Fibermascus. I am sure there might be other materials available on special request.

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#46340 - 08/14/08 04:41 PM Re: musk ox [Re: John_Hanlon]
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Didn't realize the choices were so extensive thanks for the info.

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#46341 - 08/15/08 02:04 PM Re: musk ox [Re: Chief]
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[WARNING: probably more than you want to know] True horn (that made of keratin - essentially compressed hair) can be quite an unstable material on knives intended to be used - especially in thin sections like pocketknife scales (which are also exposed to a lot of moisture variation on a daily basis in use). Trying to stabilize true horn scales is pretty random - often the horn will curl and distort severely while being stabilized, and even after stabilization will continue to move. (I once got the idea of recreating the gorgeous bias cut cow horn seen on some early Sheffield knives and getting it stabilized, but talking with several stabilization experts soon cured me of the idea.) Quite a number of custom makers have sworn off of using any type of true horn. Also note that certain beetles absolutely *love* to eat horn.

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#46342 - 08/17/08 01:30 AM Re: musk ox [Re: Dwight_Hughes]
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Maybe yes maybe no, I on the other hand tend to throw caution to the winds, I would rather have it the way that I want it so that ever time I use it I enjoy it. The next best thing to playing & winning is playing & losing Commissioning a knife just way ya want it & using it is the closest I can get to being part of the creation process of that knife!

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#46343 - 08/28/08 08:06 AM Re: musk ox [Re: Chief]
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I have a knife where the handle is horse hoof (made by Grant Hawk). He calls it his "Pony Knife". It's a nice little fixed blade, but the handle material is definitely thicker than anything that could be used on a pocketknife. I hadn't thought about these sorts of materials before as being delicate/fragile, but I guess they are.

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#46344 - 08/28/08 11:52 PM Re: musk ox [Re: Troy_McHenry]
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.... I hadn't thought about these sorts of materials before as being delicate/fragile, but I guess they are.

-Troy



Well, I wouldn't really call most true horn all that delicate or fragile - most of it is quite tough -- it's just that it can be quite dimensionally unstable, especially when used as thin scales (or even not so thin scales). Handled correctly it can be wonderful stuff -- take a look at how Ed Fowler uses it on his knives. Notice that he carefully selects the raw material to be as close as he can get to his final desired form (solid horn, not scales), so he needs only minimal shaping. Also notice he only uses hidden tang designs without a butt cap -- this allows the horn to move without affecting the construction or integrity of the design. (A hidden tang design with a "floating" butt cap that is attached only to the horn and not the tang also works very well.)

A big problem with thinner scales of horn is how they have been processed: many varieties of horn are partially to mostly hollow -- so to get the most out of the material, it is common to steam and press the hollow portion flat before slabbing (this is done to water buffalo horn a lot). This is obviously *not* a great way to produce a stable material.

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