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#46013 - 08/04/08 10:37 PM T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade
kdhampton Offline
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It's been a few years since Tony made a knife with this blade, sometimes called a "Modified Wharncliffe", Schrade called this blade profile the Zulu Spear. Blade and spring on this stag beauty is CPM-440v.

This knife is going to a guy that is planning on using it to field dress a deer this season. Good hunting to ya!









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#46014 - 08/05/08 09:01 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: kdhampton]
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Nice pattern huh Juan???
Stag looks great on this one, but yours I think is Amber.... isnt it??
I think (somewhere) I may have a pic of it before it got to you.

I guess the days of the hand cut shields are over?

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#46015 - 08/06/08 11:22 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: John_Nugent]
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Looks more like a drop point with a swedge to me... Beautiful knife though.

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#46016 - 08/06/08 03:20 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Bob_Glassman]
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Mr. Nugent, what do you mean by "I guess the days of the hand cut shields are over?"
I assumed from the little less sharp points on the shield, that the use of the 1/32" mill cutter and maybe a decision to not take the points to as sharp on this knife are the reason for the difference.... Did I miss something? That is definitely possible....
Thank-You,
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#46017 - 08/06/08 04:06 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: John_R_Fraps]
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Shields make a big difference to me and I think you are dead on.

"I Think" the knife pictured above has a wire cut shield put in with a mill. The other way is to cut the shield out from flat stock and filed it out from a pattern. Then with chisels hand cut the shield in the Stag or Bone …. I prefer the hand made…hand cut shields.

The above double bomb shield (if you can call it that?) to me seems to have more of those rounded curves (or little less sharp points that you spoke of) than a hand made double bomb shield with sharp points…. Looks less custom and more like a highly produces manufactured knife.

This is just my opinion as a collector, but I would not be surprised if in the future it has a negative factor in re-sale values.

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#46018 - 08/06/08 05:24 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: John_Nugent]
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You're hereby appointed curator for life of the Bose Museum. No ifs or buts. Yes, that's just like mine. Same stag, though. Except that mine has an ATS-34 blade, if I recall correctly.

I saw Reese handling one at the show back when I attended, and I ordered one right there and then.

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#46019 - 08/06/08 05:58 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: JM1]
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You're hereby appointed curator for life of the Bose Museum. No ifs or buts.




Yep...ifs and buts

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#46020 - 08/07/08 07:48 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: John_Nugent]
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It's time to knock off the bullshit, that shield was cut by hand and put in with chisels. I used a new pattern which you can see in the Bose thread in Knifeforums. I don't use a parser plate on anything but smooth handle materials such as ivory. The man that's getting this knife is happy as hell with it.
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#46021 - 08/07/08 08:28 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Tony Bose]
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Ha...glad you stepped up to the "plate"...get it "Parser Plate"

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#46022 - 08/07/08 10:49 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Tony Bose]
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It's time to knock off the bullshit, that shield was cut by hand and put in with chisels. I used a new pattern which you can see in the Bose thread in Knifeforums. I don't use a parser plate on anything but smooth handle materials such as ivory. The man that's getting this knife is happy as hell with it.




I have been a "lurker" here for a while learning what I can & viewing all of ya'lls knives. They are very beautiful!

Although I have to admit that this is a first for me, seeing the Maker of the knife that the forum is named for having to defend himself from the Moderator I believe that Mr Bose has more knowledge of what he made than you do!

See Ya, Chief
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#46023 - 08/07/08 10:57 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Chief]
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This was just an opinion…and I remain with the same feeling about that particular shield, but I did add an "I think" to my post.

I am glad to see you contributing to the discussion.

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#46024 - 08/07/08 11:29 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: John_Nugent]
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I'm the man who got this knife. And as Tony said, I am happy as hell with it. It's absolutely gorgeous. Mr. Nugent, I don't give a damn about your opinion. And to add an "I think" to your post is just a cowardly approach. You can think a lot of things, but many times they are wrong.

Tony and Reese Bose make the finest pocketknives around. Their reputations and skills should never be questioned.

Thank you, Tony, for taking the time to make me this knife. It's beautiful in all respects and I will always cherish it.

Kevin
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#46025 - 08/07/08 11:43 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: vklough46]
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Wow…I am glad you like the knife…you are the customer. Use it in good health.

Sorry you don’t care about my opinion…I always think its good to be opened minded and hear what people have to say. In your world I guess it’s not good to question.

I was never questioning “Their reputations and skills”…but I do have preferences.

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#46026 - 08/07/08 12:04 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: John_Nugent]
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Wow…I am glad you like the knife…you are the customer. Use it in good health.

Sorry you don’t care about my opinion…I always think its good to be opened minded and hear what people have to say. In your world I guess it’s not good to question.

I was never questioning “Their reputations and skills”…but I do have preferences.




Don't get passive aggressive with me.
One minute you are driving home your point, and when you are called on it it's just your opinion.
If Tony Bose says that it's hand cut then it is indeed hand cut.
You need to learn some manners.

Kevin
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#46027 - 08/07/08 12:14 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: vklough46]
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Kevin…I’m going to be the way I am. Sorry if you don’t like it. I don’t know what manners has to do with it…

The reason why I put the “I think” in was that I wasn’t there when the shield was put in and I was wrong. It just looks like it was

I don’t mind being corrected if I am wrong. If that’s the way he put the shield in that’s fine…

You are missing my point….and it doesn’t sound like you are ever going to get it

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#46028 - 08/07/08 12:18 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: John_Nugent]
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John,

I understand your point.
And now I think we all understand just what kind of man you are.

Kevin
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#46029 - 08/07/08 01:18 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: vklough46]
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Fellas, fella's, can't we all just get along?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8

I guess if I could afford to be a connoisseur of Bose knives I would care more about the shields, but I recently came to the realization that I just can’t afford to buy them on the secondary market anymore.

I don’t know what shields I have on my knives, but they all cut.

But I do have four or five good user Bose knives and I’m taking two of them camping with me today. Shields aside, they’ll do everything I need them to do, but I guess that goes without saying.

Every day that I wake up and put a Reese, Tony or Kerry Hampton knife in my pocket I have the satisfaction of knowing I have the best knife in my neighborhood.

Peace out


Edited by MRobuck (08/07/08 01:18 PM)

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#46030 - 08/07/08 06:28 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: MRobuck]
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I thought the Randall forum was the home to people who threw out their opinions without knowing the facts.
Mr. Nugent,
Probably would have been better to go to the maker & ask prior to posting a flawed opinion.Posting opinions are one thing,posting irresponsibly is another,especially for a moderator.
Tony Bose says it's right,good enough for me.
Tony,Absolutely Beautiful Knife!
GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!!!


Edited by BigJim (08/07/08 06:30 PM)
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#46031 - 08/07/08 07:09 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: BigJim]
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I'll take one shield, no shield, yes shield, maybe shield, hallelujah shield, Paris shield, Pamela shield, coco shield, croco shield, freaking shield, Obama shield, dollar shield, peso shield, whatever shield, I'll take one or two or three, I'll take 'em all, thank you.

Oh, and congrats, sir. That's one way awesome knife. When I first saw one I begged Mr. Bose to please make one for me. By the way, tomorrow I'm going after some deer myself, so I'll take mine and post pics. I hope you'll do too. Good luck, and, again, congratulations.

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#46032 - 08/07/08 08:25 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: kdhampton]
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I held this knife for a good while last weekend..It is absolute perfection!! I also know Kevin will be quite happy with it and will put it to good use. As far as the shield goes..WHO CARES!! I like both..round or sharp edges..I would give my left nut for this knife..

Nuge..give me a call..

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#46033 - 08/07/08 09:12 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: John_Nugent]
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Kevin…I’m going to be the way I am. Sorry if you don’t like it. I don’t know what manners has to do with it…

The reason why I put the “I think” in was that I wasn’t there when the shield was put in and I was wrong. It just looks like it was

I don’t mind being corrected if I am wrong. If that’s the way he put the shield in that’s fine…

You are missing my point….and it doesn’t sound like you are ever going to get it




"I guess the days of the hand cut shields are over?" This was in your first post........The words "I Think" are no where in the post!

He's right Kevin about manners having nothing to do with it. I think a better word would be Disrespectful.

See Ya, Chief
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#46034 - 08/08/08 01:41 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Chief]
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Friends,

A few thoughts.

1. What a Great knife, and someone will have a great time using it!--Just Beautiful!

2. That shield on it sure looked Fine to me!

3. Why does "The Old Dog" have to defend his knife? I didn't hear the Buyer complaining!

4. Was out of state on Company business, and found out how screwed up parts of Detroit really is. Can you say..Depressed? (The mayor got thrown in jail, yesterday morn)

5. And last but not least, if Any of you are not totally happy with your Bose, You just send them to me, and I will take very good care of them!

Kent

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#46035 - 08/08/08 02:31 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Kent_Warnberg]
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Mine is in my backpocket and it ought to get its share of work tomorrow. See att.


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#46036 - 08/09/08 03:30 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Chief]
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Quote:

Quote:

Kevin…I’m going to be the way I am. Sorry if you don’t like it. I don’t know what manners has to do with it…

The reason why I put the “I think” in was that I wasn’t there when the shield was put in and I was wrong. It just looks like it was

I don’t mind being corrected if I am wrong. If that’s the way he put the shield in that’s fine…

You are missing my point….and it doesn’t sound like you are ever going to get it




"I guess the days of the hand cut shields are over?" This was in your first post........The words "I Think" are no where in the post!

He's right Kevin about manners having nothing to do with it. I think a better word would be Disrespectful.

See Ya, Chief




I meant no disrespect to anyone….I am sorry that everyone took my comments so personal … I wish I had not made them.

During the past years I have gotten a bit picky about the little things on pocketknives and have always expressed myself. I have looked, studied over, every aspect of each pattern and know what I like and what I don’t. What I said about the shield was my opinion and was wrong for me to express it the way I did.

Every Bose knife made is a work of art, we all know that, we would not be on the forums or want the knives if we didn’t. I would not have collected them for 15 years nor would I be a moderator if I didn’t feel so strong about them.

This is my hobby and the guys on these forums make it what it is.
Please accept my apology

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#46037 - 08/09/08 03:31 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: JM1]
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Well here is my Sunday "Go to Meetin Knife". Pretty fancy for a country boy, huh?



Now to the John incident. I just talked to him by phone and I am not taking sides here. John has the greatest respect for Tony's work but the comment he made was wrong.

Tony, corrected him and that should be enough said. I know this offended many of you. If anyone said anything about Tony to me I would probably get whipped before I could get my gun out. Too old to fight here.

So enjoy this Forum as you are doing a lot of good here.

Best regards,

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#46038 - 08/09/08 07:43 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Rhett Stidham]
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Kevin, this is for you. I shot three deer earlier today, and all were dressed with the fixed blade knife by Reese and with the knife in the picture, the one just like yours. I only wish we could sit around and eat some of this stuff together. Please open attachment.


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#46039 - 08/09/08 10:26 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: JM1]
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#46040 - 08/10/08 08:16 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Whiteman]
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#46041 - 08/10/08 06:48 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: JM1]
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Thanks Juan.
That's a beautiful knife and it's great to see it in action.

Kevin
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#46042 - 08/10/08 09:47 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: vklough46]
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A promise is a promise; especially to a friend.

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#46043 - 08/13/08 07:52 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Chief]
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several things:
1.If I precipitated or percipitated anything wrong, I apologize. I thought mentioning the 1/32" mill and parser plate was complimentary...it was well defined in the tutorial for an ivory handled BP folder he and Kerry did...
2. John Nugent is, as I understand, one of the most prolific collectors and fans of Tony, and Reese's knives..it would be silly, and extremely unlikely, for him to sincerely make any negative comments about T's or R's knives....
3. I was really hoping that in addition to the use of the parser plate on ivory, Tony had figured out how to use it and level it on slabs like jigged bone and stag...I'd still like to know if that is a real possibility.....and how and what to do.. I don't know how to do that or what material to use ....
I'd never intentionally tick off Tony...I too much respect him, and his experience and, obviously, his skill.
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#46044 - 08/14/08 08:12 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: vklough46]
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Quote:

I'm the man who got this knife. And as Tony said, I am happy as hell with it. It's absolutely gorgeous. Mr. Nugent, I don't give a damn about your opinion. And to add an "I think" to your post is just a cowardly approach. You can think a lot of things, but many times they are wrong.

Tony and Reese Bose make the finest pocketknives around. Their reputations and skills should never be questioned.

Thank you, Tony, for taking the time to make me this knife. It's beautiful in all respects and I will always cherish it.

Kevin





Holy shute Kevin,The Dog Leg Jack in stag I love,and now this.Man,I NEVER say this,but I gotta,I'm jealous!
Nice knives
Tony,I think this zulu BP is the "right stuff" A freakin really,really gorgeous & desireable knife!
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#46045 - 08/16/08 12:28 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: VCM]
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Randy,

I just read all of these posts. Guess I have a question for you...Do you still have your left nut???

Kent
RKS #109 and..Still a Blue collar worker!

PS. It's a Shame that Kevin doesn't like that knife anymore, and is going to send it to ME!

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#46046 - 08/16/08 07:00 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Kent_Warnberg]
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Quote:

Randy,

I just read all of these posts. Guess I have a question for you...Do you still have your left nut???





Kent
RKS #109 and..Still a Blue collar worker!

PS. It's a Shame that Kevin doesn't like that knife anymore, and is going to send it to ME!




Turns out the trade value of a used 1966 testicle is not as good as one would expect.. oh..and my wife still keeps them from me..


Edited by Whiteman (08/16/08 07:02 AM)

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#46047 - 08/16/08 07:12 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Kent_Warnberg]
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PS. It's a Shame that Kevin doesn't like that knife anymore, and is going to send it to ME!




WRONG
No more doughnuts for you and the boys in blue Kent.

Kevin

PS Kent what's 4", can grow to 7" and lives in my pocket?

Answer: My Tony Bose Zulu Spearpoint.
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#46048 - 08/16/08 10:41 AM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: vklough46]
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Kevin,

You are so so funny! It must be the water that your drinking in IN!

Kent

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#46049 - 10/05/08 01:56 PM Re: T.Bose 4" BP w/Zulu Spear Blade [Re: Kent_Warnberg]
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Incredible!!!!
to put in discussion T.Bose' work !!!
...you MUST be a really tough Guy...
Good for you.
Guido
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