good try Sam, but again falls short of reality. This information is covered in my thread but I will revisit. I have to add though, this is the same tired argument that has been made for what, 3 months now according to Ron.

1)both hkl and johnson used the west facing stamp as proven with this stamp on this sheath. There are other numerous examples in my thread and elsewhere.

2)johnson also used the serif stamp for a period when he first started making sheaths for RMK, as depicted with this sheath and numerous other examples in my thread and elsewhere.

3)Neither did Johnson on some of his earliest sheaths as this one exhibits as do others pictured in my thread and elsewhere.

You seem to forget we are talking a short period here, months, so you can twist and turn all you like, but you can't refute, no one can refute these typical Johnson traits:

1)die cut of sheath
2)belt loop width & shape
3)overall stitching
4)butterfly shape and stitching
5)little to no edge "tooling" on body of sheath.

What is so disturbing about your take, is that the other two sheaths in Cap's thread are clearly HKL, yet are totally different than the model 7 you claim is an HKL. You don't see it. Cap sees it. I see it. Some other see it. Cap's sheath is the same sheath type in Ron's photos in my thread of six model 3 sheaths that he said 5 out of 6 were Johnson's. One was Heiser marked. If you reread my thread, you will see I agreed with his assessment, save for one which I think is HKL, so I am 4 out of 6 in agreement. And I am even going your way towards HKL!!



Ron -

good to see you posting, irrespective of the topic. Sorry you were dragged into this if that is the case, but it is eery how much Sam sounds like you when presenting his argument. Particularly with his latest foray with "edge beveling". Quite a coincidence that lo and behold something that we both know you and I discussed previously (on at least a couple of occasions) now suddenly appears at this late date. Shocker.

My demeanor? I could easily respond in kind, but I refrain due to our history. Fixed position? I have agreed with your assessment of things on several fronts. The only "fixed position" is you believe EVERY "R" up sheath is an HKL, EVERY center snap sheath is an HKL, completely discounting any other trait. Completely discounting the fact that Johnson used Heiser/HKL as a model for his sheaths. Completely discounting he copied them to the best of his ability using the equipment and materials he had. Were they exact? Of course not, the differences between the two are very clear. No one is or has said they were exact copies, but they were close servicable copies for a period until he came into his own. It is that simple.