While it can be said that debate is good, the tone of the debate that has taken place with these threads has not been good in many instances, to the point that moderators have gotten involved. To the point that many readers don't know what the point is.

More than a few have conveyed to me that they have no interest in reading much less participating when it takes a turn for the worse. Not good for the hobby. When enthusiasm is replaced with attacks both personal and professional, not good for the hobby. When enthusiasm is replaced with obsessive compulsive behavior, not good for the hobby. When enthusiasm causes one to be so fixated on something that it closes that individual off to any rational discussion in the face of solid evidence to the contrary, it is time to move on (which some have) and not good for the hobby.

I think I have reached my limit on this subject for the time being, and actually did some time ago, but by request and in the interest of promoting the hobby I decided to proceed. But now I acquiesce as I have spent entirely too much time and energy answering and refuting claims most often incorrectly presented as "facts". Presented as "facts" from folks that have done the vast majority of what they call "research" based on photographs never having handled the overwhelming majority of the subject matter personally. Hands on examination is an integral part of the equation not to be discounted.

Even though some of these traits may show consistency with a certain manufacturer it doesn't necessarily mean exclusivity to that manufacurer, and we who have been in this hobby for sometime realize it is not unusual to find exceptions. We also know that some of the 'findings" initially may seem like a big deal or a defining fact, but in the end they really may not mean much in the big picture and don't change a thing.