Gents,

It's refreshing to see good common sense when discussing a topic like survival. No fantasy BS here.

Here is a pic taken from this last Fall. I was on an outing practicing fire making with a ferro rod on just natural tinder, nothing man made. I was in the process of trying to get an amber going. The tinder in the pic is just plain, fine shredded birch bark as collected on sight. This was done a on a paper plate, or you could use a piece of bark. I used the flat on the back of the 18 to produce a nice shower of sparks.