Hi Tom, I see the above sold to LEO only for $32.99 per 50 at Atlantic Tactical and the newer Winchester Ranger "T" series at the #39.99 per box of 50 at Basel & Co. That being said Target Sports has Sellier & Bellot 230 FMJ for $21.15 and Federal 230 hollow point for $25.30 that is plus tax and shipping. As that guy says on YouTube "You be the Judge". Sales tax is a big deal shipping can also be quite high, If I was in the market for HP 45 ammo I would be ecstatic at $25.00 a box but $30 may be closer to the mark, good Luck, Mike