I'm not too sure about dumb dog statement...
My brother had a Gordan Setter....it was, with out a doubt, the stupidest thing I ever encountered in my life...at the lake...I cannot remember how many times that dog fell off the dock....just walking around...knocked over the grill at hunting camp...with food in it...it was just plain stupid!!

:-)Rocky
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Rocky Whitaker
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