I have sold a lot more firearms than cars, and masked man speaks truth.

Thought I would throw out some 9mm ammo trivia here. If you check online video reviews including gel tests, you will find the Winchester white box 9mm 115gr JHP working about as well out of several pocket 9mms as any premium stuff.

Approaching 1200fps out of some of them, and only real difference not being clone picture perfect mushrooms, but same expanded diameter, penetration and stretch cavities. And hardly any difference, that, than rude unfun .357 lightweights out of snubbies, which is why I now carry the well mannered and fun G43, that, and can aim the thing.

The 147gr is NOT being discussed here, only the 115gr. Which means flipping back and forth between it and their 115gr loss leader FMJ makes for pretty much identical shooting experience whether on range or street.