AND THE PEOPLE SHALL SAY, AMEN....investor groups who oust anybody not bringing them a portfolio increase, and care not about product or people.

Thing that gripes me is, just as said earlier as to everybody acting shocked, they should not be, as history is clear, and yet, as with the weather, everybody complains, but nobody does anything, and unlike the weather, it need not be this way.

#1 responsibility goes to consumers and media lap dogs saying "oh, it has to be this way, or poor (fill in blank) would not be around anymore". Poor (fill in blank) ceased to be the day they stopped making what made them them a legend, folks, so stop buying garbage, and vote with wallet. Even investor groups listen to THAT vote.

And of course, nobody tied to whatever industry speaks up, or organizes a resistance (well, rarely, but there HAVE been successful employee buy-outs), so AMF/BANGOR PUNTA/etc etc just keeps happening....Freedom/Cerebus only the latest.

Late PS- yes, many folk bought guns not normally bought, as they were not normally gun buyers in the first place, and bought only to buy IN CERTAIN AREAS where fear was high of being unable to buy later, due to new laws.

This ignores the vast majority of repeat buyers, in guns, just as in knives, and THOSE are the core staying away, because they know what they are getting is not what it used to be. And when they complain, they are told, "sorry, the modern market etc etc, and it simply MUST be this way if (fill in blank) is to survive." So, they vote with their dollars, makers sales founder, until somebody, somewhere, gives them what they want. Look only at the skyrocketing Mossberg and Henry sales, and every one of those was a Remington/Marlin/Winchester buyer before that.

One has only to look at prices of older better made guns in the used market, to see the market is thriving. Except in ever cheaper new guns. This is not a blip, it is a revolt of core market of repeat buyers taking their money elsewhere, to get what they want....QUALITY.