Thanks Wayne & Chief & guys. I bought my Para Ordinance, P-12 new in about 1994-'95, Chief; imported it and four 12 shot clips straight in from Canada. It's been my favorite & most carried CC weapon for a long time, but my daughter started shooting it at age 12, has always been comfortable and accurate with it so it's basically been hers as desired for 5-6 years. So, what do you know about 'em, sir?