Here is my # 11 and Fireman Special. I bought the 11 new on the net. Has a beautiful deep grooved stag handle, nickel silver hilt and butt plate. The Fireman I ordered from Randall. Purchased the orange G10 from Treeman. Had a slanted nickel silver hilt put on and of course the finger grooves, with black sheath. I have since visited Sullivan's in FL and had them make me a different sheath for the Fireman. Did not like the way the heavy Fireman handle leaned out in the normal hi rise sheath