Joe, IF you re-read my post, that you quoted from, in the first paragraph I say these are my theories. I'm not disputing anything in the book, as I said before, I'm wondering outloud. I appreciate ya'lls expertise, so I'm trying to coax everyone's opinion. For every one Randall knife I've seen you guys have probably seen a thousand. I'll look for the quote in Gaddis' that says about 10 "Zachs" were made, but the Lt. only ordered 4.