Thanks Captain. I don't know what was up. Any idea when these would of been made? I have heard so many things on that, not sure what to think. I wanted a mod 1 for a long time, then had these drop in my lap... would like to find out as much as I can... Randall will tell if ya send them the knives.. don't really want to do that. They are the stars of my collection though... such well made knives, beautiful and deadly looking all at once.