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#204384 - 06/26/23 10:57 AM Colt 1905
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Hi, here's an interesting Colt that is the Papa of the 1911. Condition is not so great but me neither. regards, Mike
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#204385 - 06/26/23 11:09 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Uncle Mike]
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Mike,
That is really nice. Are you going to shoot it or just keep it for display???

I think the first ammo was 200 grain FMJ at 850 fps then they increased the weight to 230 grains. I could be wrong on this.

Either way,the 1911 has stood the test of time w/o very many,if any,"improvements" at all.

No wonder that the State of Utah declared the 1911 as their state pistol.

Wayne
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#204386 - 06/26/23 11:28 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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Very nice, and somewhat historical (to Mr atleast).
Walker
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#204387 - 06/26/23 11:51 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Shoot870p]
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Hi Wayne, I like to shoot my guns but the slide is attached by a wedge in front of the slide not a pin/lever like the 1911. So maybe maybe not, I'll look into your 200gr info on the ammo. I remember when the parts manager from SARCO was killed shooting a vintage Lee Navy rifle. This is like asking which child do you like better, regards Mike
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#204388 - 06/26/23 12:25 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Uncle Mike]
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I think the "condition" is perfect,,,and just the way I like to buy 'em! Nice enough to be proud as punch with..."but"...(There's that word again)...battle-worn enough that you can shoot the hell out of it and not devalue it!
Nice,
Capt. Chris
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#204390 - 06/26/23 01:25 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Captain not only are you my favorite Randall dealer and sterling character but quite a philosopher. I'm sorry I didn't meet you and all the members (inmates eek ) here 20 years ago, regards, Mike
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#204405 - 06/27/23 11:19 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Uncle Mike]
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Mike,
I agree with the Capt but if you feel that it is not safe to fire the piece then don't.

I have an old Winchester Model 1904 22 bolt action single shot rifle. BBL markings are 22 short,long and extra long.

Obviously an old piece and I do not want to take a chance in firing modern HV ammo in it so just on the occasion shoot CCB caps in it.

Wayne
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#204408 - 06/27/23 08:10 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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Nice gun! If you want to shoot it, maybe have a Gunsmith check it out.
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#204410 - 06/27/23 09:31 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Robert Frey]
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Hi, I shot it and not bad with a lead round nose reload. Worked good and accuracy was acceptable. Regards, Mike
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#204413 - 06/27/23 11:29 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Uncle Mike]
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All steel...Built like a battleship..."Smokeless" powder era...I wouldn't sweat it.
Best, Capt. Chris
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#204417 - 06/28/23 09:08 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Mike,
Glad to see that all worked out well.

The 1911 design is timeless and the cartridge has a superb track record w/o all the magnum bangnum hype.

Some years ago,before autoloaders became popular,Memphis,TN PD issued S&W Model 25s in 45 Colt and they could also use 45acp with half moon clips.

Obviously both cartridge did their job well. Wayne
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#204421 - 06/28/23 03:05 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Hi, I just got a Colt 1909 revolver in 45 Colt. It was shipped to the Philippines in 1911. These were replacements for the 38 caliber revolvers that failed to stop the Moros. I’ll post a picture when I get it, regards, Mike
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#204427 - 06/29/23 08:23 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Uncle Mike]
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Mike,
I presume that the 1909 will use the half moon clips?

Does it have a lanyard ring off of the grip frame?

I am looking forward to seeing it.

Wayne
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#204428 - 06/29/23 09:12 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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Hi Wayne, no it shoots 45 Colt referred sometimes as the "long Colt". Yes it has a lanyard ring. Here's the dealers picture, regards, Mike

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#204439 - 07/01/23 09:01 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Uncle Mike]
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Mike,
That is so nice,looks to be in pristine condition.

The beauty of the 45 Colt cartridge is that it has superb ballistics w/o all the "magnum bangnum" fuss and bother.

When you do get it.let us know how it does on the range.

Or..........better yet.........send it to me and I will test it out!!

Wayne
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#204444 - 07/01/23 02:46 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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Hi Wayne, thanks for your interest; it does look good but still has quite a bit of finish loss. This was one of the several hundred sent to the Philippines as a stop gap until the new 1911's were available. I will say this revolver is tight as a drum. I'm declining your kind offer to test it for me. regards, Mike
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#204448 - 07/02/23 08:48 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Uncle Mike]
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Mike,
That is not finish loss,it is "character" adds flavor to the piece.

I have a Colt Army Special with lots of "character" and history.
1- Went to Cuba with the Rough Riders
2- Went to the Phillipine Islands,puntive raid into Mexico and WW 1 with Black Jack Pershing's outfit
3-Went to Korea with Ridgeway's outfit where it went "missing"
4-Fast forward about 14 years to Feb 16th,1966 when it was "obtained" from a North Vietnamese regular who "did not need it any more"

I occasionally shoot it using only light Trail Boss loads as I consider that the old girl has seen enough.

Old guns with worn finishes have stories to tell.

Wayne
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#204449 - 07/02/23 10:31 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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Very cool Wayne. My Dad was a PT boat Captain in WWII in the Pacific Theater and brought home his whole 1911 rigging including his 45 marked U.S. Navy. When I was about 13, a neighbor stopped by one afternoon and in their conversation, my Dad showed him his 1911 setup. The guy pulled out 3 $100 bills and my Dad sold it to him. Sure wish he hadn't of done that.

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#204451 - 07/02/23 12:27 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: pappy19]
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Hi Wayne, look at your revolver real good as the first Army Special was made 10 years after the end of the Spanish American War. Maybe a different model, regards, Mike
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#204454 - 07/02/23 06:23 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Uncle Mike]
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Mike,
This one was made in 1892. Colt had hopes for an Army contract that did not materialize.

Then when the Spanish American War broke out,the U S Cavalry Volunteers bought some.

You are correct,it is not the special model.

Wayne
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#204460 - 07/03/23 10:12 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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Hi Wayne , how about some pictures ? Mike
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#204461 - 07/03/23 12:31 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Uncle Mike]
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Mike,
Photos? My first phone was on the wall that you had to crank to get the operator!!!

It's all I can do to operate this new gizmo. Maybe I will have one of my great grand daughters come over and show me how to do it.

Wayne
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#204463 - 07/03/23 02:42 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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Hi, Groucho Marx said, “It’s so clear a 14 year old child can do it! Run out and get me a 14 year old child.” This is from one of his late 30’s movies. I guess he was a prophet. Regards, Mike
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#204475 - 07/04/23 09:22 AM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Uncle Mike]
Wayne Dengler Offline
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Mike,
When it comes to these new gizmos,I just toss up my hands and ask my grand children or great grand children to figure the mess out

Two years ago,I finally broke down and bought a new truck being that my 19 year old truck was on it's last legs.

I got behind the wheel and I thought I was in the cockpit of a 747!!!

Getting back to the thread (sorry for the drift) although I have several of those "automagic" pieces,I always seem to prefer the wheel guns.

Church/security sees me having the Ruger SP-101 with a Charter lightweight snubby.

In the pocket,canoe life vest or fly fishing vest is the North American Black Widow in 22 mag.

Umm,you ever notice that Patton carried two revolvers???

Wayne
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#204506 - 07/08/23 06:01 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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I am kinda partial to 1911's too.


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#204516 - 07/08/23 10:06 PM Re: Colt 1905 [Re: tomthbomb]
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Nice collection right there, Tom.
Walker
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