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#172921 - 07/09/18 08:53 PM Re: North American Arms [Re: Eric]
pappy19 Offline
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Unless they catch you. Lol. At our little PO, if you thwarted a problem, you would be a hero and Idaho Federal Court wouldn't even prosecute. In Idaho, I'm not concerned no matter.
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#172928 - 07/10/18 08:23 AM Re: North American Arms [Re: pappy19]
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Pappy,
I think you said "to the PO" and not in it.

I pack all the time. Better to be tried by 12 instead of carried by 6.

The beauty of the NAA minis is that they can be with you at all times.

Of course,nay sayers would say that the caliber is not effective,but I doubt if anyone really wants to get shot by anything.

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#172929 - 07/10/18 08:58 AM Re: North American Arms [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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It's been a few years ago, but one of the gun mags did some comparisons of balistics and mushrooming, and the 22mag hollowpoint was rated with some of the lower velocity .38's. Lucille packed a High Standard 22mag derringer for years in her purse. The NAA is a precision made firearm for sure.

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#172939 - 07/11/18 07:45 AM Re: North American Arms [Re: pappy19]
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Pappy,
You are right about that.

Take a look at back in '81 when the clown shot Pres. Reagan with a POS revolver with 22lr ammo.

In less than a few seconds he had numerous folks injured....seriously.

My first "derringer" was a High Standard blue in 22lr. It seemed that all the blue ones were 22lr and the nickel plated ones were 22 magnum.

The NAA minis have a lot going for them.

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#173214 - 07/21/18 06:21 PM Re: North American Arms [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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This thread got me looking at the NAA pistols.
I was thinking I liked the Top Break for ease of loading.
After seeing a YouTube Video showing the action opening when you were a little aggressive on the thumb pulling back the hammer and trying one, I decided the Sidewinder was the way to go. https://youtu.be/F8ifuCTIWrA
I did find a YouTube Video that indicates that the short barrel does not allow the hollow points to reach the "expansion threshold" for full effect. https://youtu.be/eB-vaGV8wy0
Oh well.
I just got one transferred to me and I will do some comparisons of .22LR, .22WMR, and .22 Snake or Rat shot after the shooting ban is lifted in my area. The ban is because of fire danger, not political tomfoolery



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#173217 - 07/21/18 07:43 PM Re: North American Arms [Re: BladesNBarrels]
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Looking forward to seeing your tests.

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#173226 - 07/22/18 08:02 AM Re: North American Arms [Re: pappy19]
Wayne Dengler Offline
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Bladesandbarrels,

I have to warn you about the NAA Minis. You get one....then they tend to "multiply"!!!

A lot of friends of mine have at least a half dozen or so of the good gadgets.

Some time back,I did a test with a NAA PUG in 22 magnum.

I placed a plastic milk jug and filled it with warm water and placed it on a sand bank.

I held the muzzle from about 2 inches from the jug and touched a magnum round off.

Instant shower!! The jug was shattered and I never did find the slug.

I would be interested to see how the results of your tests would come out.

Wayne
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#173230 - 07/22/18 08:22 AM Re: North American Arms [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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Wayne,
Try some jell-o or kool aid in the milk jug.
You get a better idea visually as to plain water.
Used to do that when I showed and explained to kids what a bullet
would do to an animal or person.Worked well.
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#173258 - 07/23/18 08:19 AM Re: North American Arms [Re: Billy Poyner]
Wayne Dengler Offline
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Billy,
At this stage,I will sit back and watch the other folks do the tests.

Basically,close contact shots are "helped" by the expanding gases.

I had an investigation where a young lady took out a carjacker who hopped into her car. Her Detective Special loaded with the plain jane 38 spl RN was more than enough to end the fray.

Contact shot where she put the piece,firmly,into his ribs and touched one off. Incident pretty much ended right there.

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#173340 - 07/26/18 10:42 AM Re: North American Arms [Re: Wayne Dengler]
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Recently a friend of mine complained that although she packed her Charter Arms 38 snubby often,she wanted to get something that she could carry always.

I showed her a NAA 22lr 1 1/8 inch bbl Mini and she was most interested.

Next week she will be at the range with me to try it out and a NAA PUG as well.

Some folks have a bit of difficulty firing the small 22 lr Minis but the somewhat larger grip of the magnum frame seems to be better for them.

As always,it is what is most comfortable for the shooter to handle is best.


According to NAA,the 22 lr original mini is still pretty much their best seller.

Wayne
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