No: It's not going to be a Model #18 with enough room in the handle for cocaine. It is going to be a Randall knife but in compliance with "all" portions of New York state! That means: No top edge sharpened.
For the sake of clarity, we can build anything you, my "Crew", votes on but it cannot be a Randall model that comes sharp on both edges. That means not even a #1 (or #19) that can be ordered with the top bevel not sharpened. That's my only "rule" for this build.
OK all of you new members, this is your chance to join the build. Let's shoot for 25 forum members who, not only partake in the construction, but actually "want" it when completed!
That's it..."GO"!!!
Stay sharp (but only on 1 edge),
Capt. Chris

"They say that these are not the best of times, but their the only times I've ever known...."

I recommend the #4 small skinner for this build! It's a great blade shape and we never really consider or talk much about the #4.

Would be nice to stipulate NOT building something that we have built in the past 2 or so years as well. Get a different model into the spot light.

How about a model 4 six inch with a model 6 grind

Peter

Or maybe a London knife with no sharp edges.

I vote for model 11

I vote for any blade with Christy Brinkley's curves.

I like his song "she's so good with her Yukon skinner"

We could build a super cool.
Model 26 or GTR or Denmark Special!!!

I am gonna go ahead and say it, why bother? Why acknowledge those pussy vegans like Cuomo, de Blasio, and the biggest douche of all, Schumer.

now that's funny

I'm glad someone finally said it !

I'm in a New York state of mind because of:
Tom, Tony, Warren and others that participate in this forum and the RKCC as well. GCTom is what sparked the idea.
Best, capt. Chris
PS: Chuck Schumer isn't a member of this forum...

Joe don't disagree with you on the politicians; sometimes we feel like we are in a socialist state! But New York for me is one of the best places on earth to do woodwork. Many other thing as well, as long as you shut off the news.

Tough carry laws in NYC, my EDC is a Triathlete with black palm scales.

Let's see where this goes!

Tom Flynn

Keeping with what Miles said a model 20 with a Ward Gay handle would be something to consider. Great curvy shape. Can we do it in an exotic wood?

Tom Flynn

I'm a New Yawker, thru and thru, but I agree with Joe!

Ok ... I could go with a model 4 ...

as long as I could get a NY Yankee logo etched!

BTW ... thanks Cap for your consideration!

Tony

If the knife is to be 'legal' to be carried in all parts of New York State, including New York City, then the blade must be less than 4" in length. While NYS law does not impose blade length restrictions on knives, the New York City Administrative Code does. NYCAC 10-133 ("Possession of knives or instruments") states:

"b. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry on his or her person or have in such person’s possession, in any public place, street, or park any knife which has a blade length of four inches or more."

There are exceptions to this provision (in subsection "d."), but none of them apply to this build.

Bob

Or nothing fat like Amy Schumer.
I like Peter's idea of a #4 with 6 grind.

Model 4 sounds good to me.

Either way, I'm in!

I'm in for a 4-6 in ironwood. Tom RKC C 099

Ward Gay is only available from the shop l on 1 model and only in black or maroon micarta.

A model 4_6.

Maroon micarta? Hmmm. Sound interesting.

GTR.

4-6
Sharpi

New York Yankee Logo! Now that would be awesome!

A Model 3-5" might be interesting.

Pap

Denmark

Here is a model 4 4 inch for another possibility

Peter

You could request blue and orange spacers.

I am still leaning towards 19 or 20 with exotic wood and fingergrips.

Tom Flynn

#19's gonna be out, no top edge sharp knives for this build. #20 would work though.

Funny Mike!

4-6 with 6 grind. Send to Behring for a Scagel style handle.

Ok, did that just throw me off the crew?

next maybe we can do a "California Livin'" model with an etching of Feinstein, Brown and Pelosi on the blade... kinda like Mt. Rushmore?

The only suitable handle would be a large, premium piece of dogshit.

Lmao. I have a German Shepard that can donate.

There issss an area on the Forum for discussions NOT related to knives..it's on the Lounge. Perhaps maybe we could just discuss the actual build here and move the "other stuff" there....????

Build-wise...Here's what's happening...so far: All honorable mentions and to be considered:
* #3-5"
* #4-4 1/2"
* #4-6"
* #11
* #20
* #26
* GTR
* Denmark
To be fair, while a great knife, the Ward Gay leaves us little-to-no build options. I want to know this............
ROLL CALL VOTE !!!!!
Are the choices above:
A) Good enough, no need to list any more
B) Not enough choices: Let's keep talkin' about it
C) Too many already
D) Write-in
Let me hear from you Crew!
Thanks, Capt. Chris

A) Good enough, no need to list any more

A) Good enough, no need to list any more

A)Good Enogh. No need to list anymore.

A) Good enough, no need to list any more

LMAO Miles that was great!

Tom Flynn

A)Good enough,no need to list anymore.

A)Good Enogh. No need to list anymore

A)Good enough,no need to list anymore

A

A) good enough.

If that is the case, wouldn’t that eliminate #3-5", #4-4 1/2", #4-6", #20, #26, & Denmark from our above list? Leaving us with only #11-3 1/4”, & GTR? That wouldn’t be very fun..

A- Enough

Pap

A!!!!!!!!

FREAKIN' A!

Good talkin' to you tonight, Tony. I agree with everyone. Let's roll with what we have and narrow it down. I, of course, have my personal favorite but will try my damndest not to interject my bias!
Here's the "short list". Let's make it even "shorter"!
Homework: Take 2 days and, while expressing your favorite, eliminate "2".
* #3-5"
* #4-4 1/2"
* #4-6"
* #11
* #20
* #26
* GTR
* Denmark
Thanks, Capt. Chris

Favorite = GTR

Eliminate = #4-6" + #11

Favorite: 20

Eliminate = 3-5 & 26

I would eliminate the #20 & the #4-6

1. Denmark Special
2. #3-5

Eliminate
3-5
4-6

Favorite would be #4-4.5", it's a great carry size with lots of cutting surface.

Eliminate
20
4-6

For the NYer's, the GTR is a good fit. Plus, a nice setup.


Pap

+ 20

Eliminate #4-6 and 4-4.5

Eliminate

* #3-5"
* #4-6"

GTR
Eliminate the 4-6 and 11.

Fvorite-20

Eliminate-4-6 and 4-4.5

Tom Flynn

a

My pick of the list:
#26

Two to drop:
#3-5"
#4-6"

D)Stanaback Special I (4" blade)

Options galore!

If we could get the shop to make a 3 7/8" blade it might even be legal to carry in NY.

Nevermind, missed the part about pick one and eliminate 2. I'm out.

Eliminate 4-6 and 11

Eliminate:

* #3-5"
* #4-4 1/2"

Tony

The results are in: By a "vast" majority, the #4-6" is the 1st to go! 2nd one out is the #3-5". Thanks to all who expressed their preferences. We shall continue on...
* GTR received "0" negatives
* #26 & Denmark received only 1 vote in opposition each
* #20 received 2 negatives
* #4-4 1/2" & #11 each received "3" ouster favors.
So, Crew: Where do we go from here? Let's see what you think. Shall we continue our process of elimination? Shall we discuss and defend our favorite choice from the models still left standing? (Which: BTW, mine is still standing). Let's here from you. Not a roll call vote but a poll...should we:
* Discuss our reasons for our favorites
* Ax a couple more
* Other
Thanks
Capt. Chris

GTR is always cool with me... buuuut, it's been done already. Would be nice to focus on a model not already built here.

I'm thinking we need one less than 4". Would the shop make an almost 4" Model 5?

Pap

Well if a smaller knife is the preferred consideration, I'm now open to the 26 or GTR.

I personally only like the model 11 with the 5 inch blade, so if we are wanting to go with a shorter blade length, I'd say eliminate the model 11. Of the remaining knives, i like the idea of a gtr or 26. And unless we are building a knife that will primarily used for skinning, I'd say eliminate the model 4 also.

I know that I voted for the GTR for the build,but after studying the catalog for awhile, I feel the model 26 is a better choice. I always like a "pointy" tip on my outdoor knives. I feel that it would be a better all around user, than the GTR . However, owning neither knife, I would happily defer to people who own and use them both.

Has everyone forgotten an 11-3 1/4"?
Just sayin', Capt. Chris

...&..."NO"...This ain't my favorite..."BUT"...it fits the ticket, nine ways to Sunday!
Best, Capt. Chris

Not me... I'm ordering 1 next time I see you!

I am mostly positive the "favorite" ain't happening this time around...

What does everyone think about revisiting the #11 with a 5" blade?

I thought the 5in blade was out for this build?

Ax a few more but I'm sticking w/a Denmark Special!

That baby 11 with black micarta is quite nice.

I think under 5 inches for this build is where we are headed... possibly under 4 as well.

Some want under and some want a 5 inch blade. We can't do both but neither one is out of the loop just yet. NYC laws and NY "State Laws" outstanding I think we should build what we decide on by majority voting. I don't live there, don't want to, but a lot to consider when finalizing our choice.
Having used "everything" that's still on the table, I can tell you of advantages for each and every one. Personally: A 5 inch Model #11 is my least favorite of an Alaskan's blade length choices. If I were out with The James' Gang all the time and skinning elk & bear I might change my mind. For me, a 4" or 4 1/2" are a better "all-around" choice. A 3 1/4" as better choice for whitetails and smaller game.
....and...this is just to open discussion on Alaskan skinners. We have not ruled out many others and I don't know if this is even going to be a "Hunter's Knife"??
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Photo of one of my Alaskans"...CCS

Well Cap, being in Central Idaho, we have elk, whitetail, mulies, and a good share of black bear and Couger. For me, these builds are more for something different and unique for my collection, as I have plenty of carry knives for field use.
I suppose any knife as a result of this build opportunity might fit my bill.
I'm enjoying the chance to participate.

Here is a 4-4 1/2 fishermans friend we built several years ago.
Also a Denmark Special dressed up that I got from Capt many years ago.

Personally, as a user, I am not a fan of an upsweep blade. For skinning they are great until they get dull, then very hard to sharpen. Then there's the problem using an upsweep blade For gutting and punctured guts. For me, I prefer a clip blade or a drop point as a user, but that's just me. I do have and have used both a Model 3 and Model 7, that do have a slight upsweep, but my still go-to is a Model 5. That being said the Denmark looks pretty good, although I have not owned one. If I lived in Alaska, the Model 19-5 would be my first choice. Sorry for the rant.

Pap

Mike,
No need in being sorry, your posts are some of the best on the forum because they speak of true, first hand experience. I like reading all of the posts, but yours are some of my favorites..
Please continue

Beautiful Alaskan Capt.

Actually, my favorite hunting style blade is the semi-skinner. The best of all worlds, slightly upsweep, but drop point at the end. This is a 50 year old Case with a beech slab handle that i got in college and used in our meats lab. We butchered every farm animal and we were graded on our quality of knife work. Most of my classmates bought the semi-skinner. Wish there was a Randall version. Bob Loveless had this design, but added a single hilt, which I like.

Pap

Mike that is very close to the Green River skinner which is a favorite of mine. Not for gutting though.

I've used larger knives for the initial tummy cut, but mostly use a sharp pocket knife with my trigger finger on the point, then go from the sternum to the crotch.

Yes, Green River no doubt made this design first, but I know this one was a Case, because about 10 of us bought from the same hardware store.
Pap

Randall GTR in FWI and my favorite Green river skinner.

Here is an 11-3 like the Captain's except in brass.

And,

My picture ain't as good as his!

[quote=pappy19]I've used larger knives for the initial tummy cut, but mostly use a sharp pocket knife with my trigger finger on the point, then go from the sternum to the crotch.



That's what made the Ol' Buck 110 famous!

Ideally, I use "2" RMKs for most skinning and gutting jobs. I have skinned and gutted a boatload, folks...and that ain't no hay! There are many evenings when it seems as though every member of my hunting camp hauls a whitetail or hog in. That leads to a lot of skinning.
I have no idea which way this build will go but I enjoy the fact that it is getting so much "air play"! Guess we're all just missin' the woods! Keep it going and let's hear from the "civilians" in all of this...the people who don't hunt and want this knife for a totally different purpose.
What say you?
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Nice #26...

....As a reminder: These guys are still "in the race" (In no particular order...not handle preference)
Stay sharp, Capt. Chris
Model #11-3 1/4" * Model #11-4"
*NOTE- These 2 Model #11's are 3/16"stock...CCS

The "other" 2 Model #11's are 1/4" blade stock: 4 1/2" & 5"
CCS

The Model #4-4 1/2" is available in 3/16" stock. Here's one in Desert Ironwood...CCS

The venerable Yukon Skinner (Model #20) is only available in 1/4" blade stock and with a 4 1/2" blade...CCS

Finally, the 2 "non-catalog" knives: A GTR and a Denmark Special...both are from 3/16" blade stock. The GTR is 3 1/4-3 1/2" in blade length. The Denmark is 4 1/2" long...CCS

Model #11-4"

Tom Flynn

I have a GTR and carry it A LOT. It makes a great carry and an even better steak knife.

Wait, what? 4" Model 11 is 3/16" stock?

"That's" why we do these builds Rob. Knowledge. Yes: 3/16" stock "BUT" (& this is a big but) you can order finger grips on this model!
Best, Capt. Chris

hubba hubba.

11-4 with finger grips would be nice.

11-4 with amber sambar stag?

Picking the "color" of the stag is only going to happen if we supply a piece as CW. Otherwise it's going to be shop supplied and luck of the draw.

11-4 with finger grips and Olive Wood CW handle! For our favorite Italian Yankee Fan.

Tom Flynn

Olive wood would be pretty cool!!!!

Tomas ... PERFETTO!

Good talking to you tonight Tony.,,,
..................OK CREW: How about this? While it's fun-n-interesting to talk handle materials, etc...shouldn't we vote on exactly what model (&...in some cases...blade length) we're gonna' build? A lot of talk on the 4 inch Alaskan. Let's assume it's on "The Short List". Let's have 2 other choices to vote on for our final choice..."&"..."Other" #11's still count.
Let's here from you! ROLL COUNT VOTE!! Counting the #11'4 inch as already in the final "3"...what other "2"?
Thanks, Capt. Chris

Model #19-4

19-4 is good with me.

This particular build was set up to build a non top bevel sharpened knife.

I still say #4-4 1/2

Mind your matters....this is no time be right!

11-4", 26, & GTR

GTR or Model 5-4

Pap

26 & GTR

Small 5-4
#26

11-4
GTR
26

5-4
26

GTR
Model 5-4

26 GTR

GTR

How about an 11-3"

Peter

Very nice Peter. Who did the scrambled eggs?

Pap

Ron Skaggs did the engraving

Very nice work. Thanks.

Pap

I'm having Billy P. give me a count so we can continue. I, on the other hand, am busy posting my last 3 RMK offerings to my website, prior to The Blade Show. Incidentally, Here's one that just happens to be a part of the "Trio". No; This was not my favorite for this build, but it sure as hell is buldin' steam!
Stay sharp Crew...(& have a nice weekend and a great Mother's Day)
Capt. Chris

Since Capt said 11-4 was in.
GTR has 7 votes
26 has 6 votes
I guess these are the 3 that we have to choose from to build!!
I guess we need to pick and post which is our favorite of the 3
for the build.

I like all 3 of the options, but I prefer them in this order: GTR, 26, 11-4"

#26

26!

From a previous forum build, a model 26 with a teardrop handle in maroon micarta

Peter

My order of preference,
11-4
26
GTR

26

These are the 3 that made the CUT so to speak.
Choose one!!!!!!!!!!

Choose one? Ok - if Denmark did not pass, then for me it's GTR

Further in order of preference #26, #11-4

Ok, 11-4

11-4
26
GTR

Tom Flynn

Put a square top single hilt with thumb notches on an 11-4.

It comes with the thumb notches... but we are not exactly there yet...

I'm leaning towards the 11-4

26,GTR, 11-4.

Losing interest. Sorry.

Mike, Bear in mind that the majority involved with this build just got back from Blade Show which most plan and work on for several months prior to and a week or so on the back side!

I suspect things will crescendo back up shortly!

I understand, and expected the delay due to Blade.
I'll keep checking in.

Capt just called me and is on the road.Tomorrow he will be at the Randall shop.At the earliest he will be back and checking this build Tuesday night.The top two are the Model 11 and model 26.
Vote:
A)Model 11
B)Model 26
Thanks