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#148491 - 08/19/16 05:52 PM Re: Spyderco's **** [Re: Oldvetnam1]
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Sure easier to find on a dresser than black....same with the "not quite ripe banana" color on Salts, which are unfortunately available only in black and yellow due to limited numbers of models in this line. But it stands out well in my general clutter.



The burnt orange was just available this year?

I bought the bright orange this year Sprint Run/limited run Schempp Rock Salt fixed blade in H1 steel, but packed for move along with H1 Warrior fixed blade...the Warrior a waaay under-appreciated and discontinued salt water dive knife rather than weapon, perfect for cutting yourself out of line, and with powerful bicep cuts rather than wimpy tricep power.





oops....just realized this the folder gallery....can delete if anyone offended...let me know.

To get back on photo topic, one would need look very hard to find a less obtrusive, abrasive clip mount system against heel of palm and during hard work, clip base completely sunk into surface, rather than exterior plus three knobby screws (so, naturally nearly extinct except on this knife), plus greatly appreciated last little downturn of spoonbill rounded clip. Lotta thought went into making the back end of this knife very friendly to hand, handle included.





Edited by Lofty (08/19/16 09:08 PM)
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#148695 - 08/24/16 12:24 PM Re: Spyderco's [Re: Lofty]
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More would like to say that the test of locks on folding knives are really important.
Strength in the normal position is not as important as the quality of the lock.
If the blade break down in axle assembly as Figure 1,
it assumes no harm to the person.
If lock breaks down under load as Figure 2
the person may be injured, which is unacceptable.

I once badly cut his finger with a knife new out of the box -
I had to dig up a hole in the nature in the trunk of the tree to collect sap. The main knife was too blunt.



Be exceptional knife with slip joint and friction folder -
they do not have the lock and man working them very carefully,
knowing that the knife may arise from the failure of the movement.

A knife with a lock means that it is a reliable, almost as fixed
knife, so you can make significant efforts.
But when the blade is formed on the fingers in the most
unexpected moment, it is unpleasant, it should not be.

One of the ways - testing.


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#149280 - 08/31/16 10:34 PM Re: Spyderco's [Re: desert.snake]
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Had mentioned the first below video, I believe, but both videos show live weight or live load tests on various locks, and the humble lockback still king.

It matters not if various knives from various manufacturers tested as in first video....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KmHfbG7z7g

Or if most of the trick locks tested are from one manufacturer, SPYDERCO (which is only reason I added this to what SHOULD be a photo gallery thread of Spyderco, as it would be nice if I knew how to embed this in the gallery),...the ho-hum lockback is king.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERxHUXAFVs4

And will point out the older PacSalt/Endura and Salt 1/Delica blades in plain zytel/frn handles are/were even stronger at blade root and pivot than the new steel lined Endura/Delica 4 line. The new line not about product improvement, but about improved profit margin with more modular design and less waste with flavor of month changes requiring only light zytel interior skeletonized scales be recycled.

The only way the hollowback new scales over thin stamped steel liners could be stronger would be in a tension load attempting to tear knife in half. A compression/stab load in real world would immediately transition to closing force and, again, the old blade style would hold even longer than the new. And the solid zytel near unbreakable at any temperature at which a human could live without extensive protective equipment. I featured these Salt knives for a reason. The only way I could see one failing is either twisting load so severe that blade pivot heads pop off, or a force so strong trying to bend blade back over top of handle that the lock pivot be physically ripped out the top of the handle. Either, it seems, would be "easier" than attempting to force the blade closed.

It would have been interesting to see the Salt H1 steel blade tested, quite sure the blade would not have failed...and perhaps zytel handle would have bent to inline with winch cable and torn or not torn in half at max winch output. In any case, it would have taken some doing until handle distorted enough to pop the lock loose, if it would have happened at all,.... the cable directly over lock pivot meaning trying to bend/compress two 1" long slabs of zytel plastic bearing material down their strongest axis. Personally, I think the winch would have lost with old style plus H1. In the real world, with a person leaning on end of handle, right back to handle distorsion comments and taking some doing.

Cool stuff. Cool test. Cool gear.


Edited by Lofty (08/31/16 11:52 PM)
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#159064 - 04/09/17 03:06 AM Re: Spyderco's [Re: Windsor]
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I have less than 10 Spyderco's... I can think of 2 yellow salt waters, gave a black one away and have 2 Spyderco SpyderCards, one Spydercard box is dated 6/19/02 and the other dated 6/18/02. Looking and can't find em all, beginning to think I have a mouse .. Have a 80's one owner Spyderco "POLICE" Seki-City Japan v8-10 that looks different than any others I've seen..

Good stuff

I said salt water lol.. have a yellow one sitting here and it says "Pacific Salt" not sakt water...

The police I have I think is really cool and unlike almost all my other knives. I would never part with


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#159494 - 04/19/17 10:37 PM Re: Spyderco's [Re: Crutcher]
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I use Spyderco Natives as my primary folder, especially on the water. I probably have a dozen of them. I keep them in every vehicle, in backpacks and around the house.
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#165128 - 09/28/17 04:50 PM Re: Spyderco's [Re: David]
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Recently for my friend I bought a chinook 2, this is really
a comfortable knife. Unfortunately they do not produce
more (#2). A few weeks ago there was version #4,
it has an interesting lock.

I searched #2 and found the same myself,
it was slightly used, but the condition is good.

While I tested this on a branch of elm-tree (~3.3" diameter),
he cut and did not blunted. Another thing, this is my hand
- the handle is too narrow and thumb notches on the spine
is very sharp + razor concave bevels, it's not for a tree.
I took with me a sprig of elm, he has pleasant taste
of wood, slightly sweet. If only Spyderco made a convex
bevels on Chinook, it would be a killer of trees,
like Roselli or Bark River.
But the knife works very well on the meat smile







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