#110397 - 04/22/13 11:06 AM
Re: Randall inspired bird and trout knife
[Re: Willem O'Kelly]
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Nice. Looks like a good edge on that blade.
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#110400 - 04/22/13 01:28 PM
Re: Randall inspired bird and trout knife
[Re: Steven]
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The handle looks like build for big hands?!
And the blade is very sharp!?
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#110401 - 04/22/13 01:34 PM
Re: Randall inspired bird and trout knife
[Re: Willem O'Kelly]
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Nice job, Willem. Great looking knife!
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#110402 - 04/22/13 02:04 PM
Re: Randall inspired bird and trout knife
[Re: TAH]
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Hi Willem, Nice job! Regarding your "inspiration": The top knife in the photo (stag handle) was the first Model 8 made for Litch Steinman, a good friend of Bo's who came up with the Trout and Bird knife idea. The bottom knife in the photo (pinned ivory) origin is described in a letter to me from Mr. Robert Gaddis as follows: Note: 1. "Fred Gilman" owned a general store at Walloon Lake, where Bo had a summer vacation house. 2. The first 9 Trout and Bird blades were made from 1/8" thick stock. Those thereafter were made from 3/16th stock. Best,
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#110416 - 04/23/13 12:29 AM
Re: Randall inspired bird and trout knife
[Re: BoBlade]
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Thank you gentlemen, I appreciate the kind comments - and I am glad you like the knife. Perhaps a few remarks - Hans, the handle does taper out a little towards the end but it is still fairly slim - I think the blade makes the handle look wider than it is. I do have large hands but even so, I think the knife will be comfortable for most men. Ron, thank you for the information, I really appreciate it. Brilliant to be able to own one of the originals! I can just imagine what an authenticated knife like this must be worth :-) More than the money, that is for sure! Also, thank you for the information on the steel - 1/5th (5mm) is the closest I had to 3/16th (4.8mm) as I'd read somewhere this was the steel size used. I did think it a little "robust" for a bird and trout knife initially, but the grind worked well and is actually very clever - the long swedge Mr Randall added to the top has the effect of thinning down the tip and increasing the cutting/slicing/filleting ability of the knife, while the "ridge" formed between the bottom and top grinds helps the knife retain a lot of the strength inherent in the thicker steel. But, seeing as it was an original that inspired me, and as I have some 1/8th on hand, I guess I have no option but to make another one, more true to the spirit of the original...:-)
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#110419 - 04/23/13 03:59 AM
Re: Randall inspired bird and trout knife
[Re: Willem O'Kelly]
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Bedankt Willem!!
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#110475 - 04/24/13 01:49 PM
Re: Randall inspired bird and trout knife
[Re: Willem O'Kelly]
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Ron, thank you for the information, I really appreciate it. Brilliant to be able to own one of the originals! I can just imagine what an authenticated knife like this must be worth :-) More than the money, that is for sure! Also, thank you for the information on the steel - 1/5th (5mm) is the closest I had to 3/16th (4.8mm) as I'd read somewhere this was the steel size used. I did think it a little "robust" for a bird and trout knife initially, but the grind worked well and is actually very clever - the long swedge Mr Randall added to the top has the effect of thinning down the tip and increasing the cutting/slicing/filleting ability of the knife, while the "ridge" formed between the bottom and top grinds helps the knife retain a lot of the strength inherent in the thicker steel.But, seeing as it was an original that inspired me, and as I have some 1/8th on hand, I guess I have no option but to make another one, more true to the spirit of the original...:-) Hi Willem, My pleasure. My "user" is an early 60's 8-4. I think the 3/16" stock thickness is just about perfect for this knife and the 1946 1/8" stock version was just too thin for any kind of aggressive use. If you make one from 1/8th stock, I would be interested in your opinion as well. Best,
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#110539 - 04/28/13 02:55 AM
Re: Randall inspired bird and trout knife
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Thanks Ron. I will definitely make one from 1/8th but I can tell you now, you are right - it will make a fine bird and trout, as well as filleting knife but it will be too thin for general and more aggressive use.
I am thinking of making my interpretation of a "replica" of the first one - the Steinman knife, and using 1/8th stock for that, as per the original
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#110561 - 04/29/13 01:06 PM
Re: Randall inspired bird and trout knife
[Re: Willem O'Kelly]
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Sounds good, Willem. I'm looking forward to seeing a photo of it.
Best,
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