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#67305 - 09/23/09 11:20 AM Re: "We ran out of WHAT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ***** [Re: BoBlade]
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Ron, that far right Heiser shows what great craftsmen he had out in Denver. The "butterfly" is Perfect on that sheath.

Someday, Heiser sheaths might be as collectible as the old Randalls.

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#67306 - 09/23/09 04:04 PM Re: "We ran out of WHAT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [Re: 7033grip]
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Note the deep choil and sheath thats shaped like a heiser in the middle vs. shollow choiled knives and sheaths shaped like Johnsons on the outside. You can see a very clear difference....









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#67307 - 09/23/09 04:17 PM Re: "We ran out of WHAT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [Re: Stephen RKS 5536]
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The deeper choils are mostly attributable to being an older design more than anything else.

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#67308 - 09/23/09 04:41 PM Re: "We ran out of WHAT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [Re: 7033grip]
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Also note the shallow choil on this knife with a Johnson shaped sheath. You can also see a difference in the shape of the hilts - the 1-6 photographes with the other two knives has a thinner looking hilt than the others.






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#67309 - 09/23/09 04:49 PM Re: "We ran out of WHAT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [Re: Stephen RKS 5536]
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Thanks, Stephen! You couldn't have found a better example of a Heiser (not Johnson) attribute sheath with a Randall (not Heiser) stamp than the one in the middle. The accompanying knife is also indicative of a grind prior to 1962.

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#67310 - 09/23/09 04:59 PM Re: "We ran out of WHAT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [Re: BoBlade]
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Ron,

Do any of the knives that go in these sheaths have pinned handles?




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#67311 - 09/23/09 07:51 PM Re: "We ran out of WHAT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [Re: Stephen RKS 5536]
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Stephen, Ron is the expert, but if you don't see a brass pin on the stag knife with the Heiser sheath it's because it has a butt cap. Without the cap, the knife would have probably had a pin during that period.

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#67312 - 09/23/09 09:13 PM Re: "We ran out of WHAT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [Re: Stephen RKS 5536]
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Stephen,

None of the associated knives have pins. The only sheath old enough to have a pinned knife is the Heiser (mid 50's), but the knife that goes with that sheath has a leather handle.
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#67313 - 09/24/09 12:00 AM Re: "We ran out of WHAT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [Re: BoBlade]
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Thanks, Stephen! You couldn't have found a better example of a Heiser (not Johnson) attribute sheath with a Randall (not Heiser) stamp than the one in the middle. The accompanying knife is also indicative of a grind prior to 1962.





No problem Ron - I am enjoying trying to find out what the sheaths from this period really are!

Somehow I missed the sheath on the right hand side of the photo below. It also has a "Heiser" look to it but not quite as pronounced as the one in the middle...the one on the left and the one in the photo by itself above seem to me to be distinctly shaped like Johnson sheaths.


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#67314 - 09/24/09 09:40 AM Re: "We ran out of WHAT again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [Re: Stephen RKS 5536]
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Crutchtip and Ron,

Wow! I can't believe all of the knowledge you have between the Both of you on knives/sheaths! I'll be the first to admit it, but I am usually Clueless (What else is new)? to the year/and or who made a certain sheath. Both of you have helped loads by sharing your knowledge and keeping the rest of us informed!

Thanks!

Kent B. Warnberg
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