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#180457 - 05/24/19 02:54 AM Re: Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux * [Re: nate-dogg]
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Like those Smittys.
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#180459 - 05/24/19 08:05 AM Re: Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux [Re: Oldvetnam1]
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Then you will like this one. The only known Bo Randall Made miniature outside the museum.


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#180460 - 05/24/19 08:18 AM Re: Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux [Re: crutchtip]
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Nice mini Joe. I found this mini smitty a few years back. Red Micarta Handle. NOT Randall made.


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#180462 - 05/24/19 09:55 AM Re: Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux [Re: Eric]
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Nate-Dogg,
Per your request, I'll try and help you get some answers. I am an authorized Randall knife appraiser but those appraisals involve methods and restrictions similar to Joe's authentications, i.e.: Sending your knife and sheath (if applicable) to me for proper documentation. Naturally charges are incurred, both shipping & insurance "both" ways plus a $50.00 (minimum) fee. A photo and appraisal will be returned with your knife.
Having stated that, I can tell you that most chrome-plated Bowies I have dealt with were 1950-1960's range but a few orders were still taken into early 1970's. The sheath could be Heiser (So stamped) but many were Johnson roughbacks, more specifically, Maurice Johnson, tight-stitched roughbacks. A wide stitched Bowie sheath would be too "new". The snaps could be brown button or baby dot.
As to value, that would be researched and part of the appraisal, especially for insurance purposes. I will tell you that the last one I sold went for $1600.00, complete with a JRB sheath with 2-textured sided grey stone.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
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#180463 - 05/24/19 09:59 AM Re: Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux [Re: nate-dogg]
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That leather Smitty is going to need a Heiser sheath, right? Mid-50's-ish?
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#180464 - 05/24/19 10:06 AM Re: Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux [Re: JE6245]
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Jim,
Last one I sold came in a (correct) JRB and was nearly identical. Small blade stamp and all! Remember folks: It ain't when it was "made". It was when it was "sold" and "what" sheath was pulled out of the bin to be included with that order.
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PS: As a side note to the plating process: I spoke with a nice guy at the Orlando gun & knife show a couple of years ago (2016 or 17) who actually plated these blades. He was retired but worked at the local plating shop that sub-contracted the work from RMK. I don't know if they also did the rhodium plating on the early "Astros" but I would assume so...CCS


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#180466 - 05/24/19 11:02 AM Re: Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Thanks Cap. What's your thinking on the approximate date that the knife was made (as opposed to sold)? Just wondering if I was in the ballpark on that.
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#180467 - 05/24/19 11:35 AM Re: Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux [Re: JE6245]
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Big ball park I'd say. As stated earlier: 1950's-1960's (mid to late)
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#180468 - 05/24/19 11:59 AM Re: Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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The brass nut, brazed lug tips and 5 thick spacer stack points to mid 1950's for me.
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#180469 - 05/24/19 12:05 PM Re: Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux [Re: tunefink]
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Except for blade stamp, I'd agree Mitchell. The welded (braised) lugs is another "symptom"! Here's an example of my oldest Smitty but the trademark looks larger?? Certainly lots of room for speculation and, no doubt, the sheath would help a lot.
Best, Capt. Chris
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