Hey I was looking up loveless style knives and jumped on to a Guy who makes custom knives out of Perris, Ca. his name is Brent Harp his company is called harp knives. he was taught by bob loveless in the late 80s and worked in his shop for a couple years. he makes high quality handmade knives out of ats-34. he has a 3 inch utility and designed a tactical knife called the ht-1. he made a copy of a loveless skinner with an improved handle thats amazing. he has a myspace and has other knives that he designed. the guy is worth checking out... here are some pictures i got of his my space. here is the HT-1 Tactical Knife and the improved loveless skinner he made.. let me know if you want contact info. he also has knives on display in a knife store in the Moreno valley Mall.