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#179909 - 04/24/19 11:43 AM Re: Riveted Roughback Sheath: opinions welcome [Re: Holzinger258]
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Originally Posted By: Holzinger258
Seems like both sides of the throat of your sheath were reinforced using "return" stitching, so no real reason for the rivets to add more reinforcement. I believe the second picture shows properly riveted sheath.

Steve, it does seem redundant to add rivets on top of "return" stitching, but apparently they did it, as seen on the #15 Tenite in the other thread.

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#179910 - 04/24/19 11:58 AM Re: Riveted Roughback Sheath: opinions welcome [Re: TAH]
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For reference.


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#179912 - 04/24/19 04:29 PM Re: Riveted Roughback Sheath: opinions welcome [Re: Eric]
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I've seen quite a few riveted sheaths without the "return" stitching and (until now) believed that rivets in addition to "return" stitching were an indication that someone was trying to increase the value of the sheath.
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#180032 - 05/01/19 12:04 PM Re: Riveted Roughback Sheath: opinions welcome [Re: Holzinger258]
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Interesting to see rivets on a sheath with return / reinforced stitching. Either the tenite sheath has rivets added "probably to deceive" or "to make it look older", or we've just been introduced to something that disclaims statements previously made in this thread.

If the rivets in the tenite sheath are believed to be legit and original, then rivets in some other sheaths with return stitching could be legit and original.

Thanks TAH for the post above.

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#180033 - 05/01/19 12:44 PM Re: Riveted Roughback Sheath: opinions welcome [Re: mileswelze]
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Miles,

I have no idea if the rivets in the Tenite sheath are original. It just caught my attention.

Here's another one that was on Steve's website just for reference.



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#180034 - 05/01/19 02:59 PM Re: Riveted Roughback Sheath: opinions welcome [Re: Holzinger258]
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Originally Posted By: Holzinger258
I've seen quite a few riveted sheaths without the "return" stitching and (until now) believed that rivets in addition to "return" stitching were an indication that someone was trying to increase the value of the sheath.


That is generally true, but is maybe a decade later than the knives being discussed here, and all involving Maurice Johnson sheaths. Not Heiser/HKL sheaths. Generally, Heiser/HKL sheaths have a return stitch on model "A" and "B" sheaths. Mod "C" some do, but not all.

Here is an example of rivets added:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vietnam-Period-...E/351772337770?
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#180035 - 05/01/19 05:09 PM Re: Riveted Roughback Sheath: opinions welcome [Re: crutchtip]
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Thanks, Joe.
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#180038 - 05/01/19 05:37 PM Re: Riveted Roughback Sheath: opinions welcome [Re: Holzinger258]
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Is it "only me" that notices (blatantly) that the #15, green tenite, pictured above from the "other" thread..."DOESN'T REMOTELY FIT" the sheath? Talk about a mis-match!
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#180050 - 05/01/19 11:16 PM Re: Riveted Roughback Sheath: opinions welcome [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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an addendum to my previous post: I do not recall seeing a riveted Heiser/HKL sheath that had a back stitch at the top of the belt loop.
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