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#35835 - 02/10/08 09:46 AM Knife of the Week Model 18 *
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Thanks to all who have participated thus far.

From Randall Made Knives: The History of the Man and the Blades, by Robert L. Gaddis, pp. 198-203

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On 8 January 1963, Bo received a nicely typed letter from Capt. George W. Ingraham, Medical Corps, United States Army. He was then with the 94th Medical Detachment and flew about Vietnam in old CH-21C helicopters. We'll let him tell his story by quoting from the letter than Bo received and kept filed away.
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I recently found a copy of your catalog here and began to cogitate on a knife especially designed for helicopter pilots and crew members here in Vietnam. Our problem is, in case of going down in the jungle, quite a large one as far as survival is concerned. Most of the men carry issue survival knives, various types of commercial knives, etc.

An airman going down in the jungle here has the problem first of getting out of the aircraft, then of constructing shelter and finding water, possibly hand-to-hand combat..., and finally of signaling rescue aircraft which come to search for him.

I believe that the knife best suited to this task would be a somewhat radical modification of you Model 14 "Attack" Knife as follows:

1. Into the top of the blade, saw teeth should be cut or filed, to cut aluminum, Plexiglass, etc., in freeing personnel from aircraft wreckage. I have seen one knife with this feature in the possession of an air force pilot here.
2. The 1/4" brass guard could be extended to form a full half-circle to serve as a "knuckle duster" for close combat.
3. The trickiest part of the modification would be the handle. I have illustrated the handle in the enclosure, and you will note that it features a screw-on butt plate, hollow handle of brass or copper pipe, silver-soldered or brazed to the tang of the knife blade. The compartments in the handle would be used for matches, water purification tablets, Dexedrine pills..., and possibly Demerol tablets for severe burns, etc. Leather rings could be sandwiched in the usual manner for the grip.
4. A sheath similar to the model C -- or the model C as illustrated -- should be used.





...After thinking about Ingraham's ideas for a week, Bo wasn't happy with what he had to tell the serviceman. His 15 January letter opened with: "Your idea for the Survival knife looks good. It almost makes me cry to have to answer and tell you I (we) can't make even one for you." Bo went on to explain, "We've not been able to learn a way to put those sawteeth in, but I do agree that they should be there. I shall hope that sometime we can figure out how this is done."

...But the negative answer just wasn't god enough for Bo, and he couldn't get Captain Ingraham's ideas out of his mind. On Friday afternoon, he and Gary left for the Randall ranch, near the northern end of Lake Okeechobee. While driving south, they began to discuss this survival knife concept, and by the time they returned to Orlando the following night, they had formulated a design and fabrication plan....

Bo and Gary arrived home on Saturday night, and the next day, Gary went to the empty shop and began working on the prototype blade, starting with a Solingen Model 14 blank. He was successful, and the first thing Monday morning Gary put the finished blade on his father's desk. The new Survival Knife was off to a flying start!

...The next morning Bo wrote a new letter to Captain Ingraham and included it in the box with the two knives being sent to Vietnam. This time he was able to to begin on a positive note.

Quote:

"Well! I just couldn't resist the challenge you threw at me--especially since it got to keeping me awake nights. So!! I got my son on it too--and we worked Sunday bringing the #1 prototype of the "Ingraham-Randall Attack-Survival" knife into being--and here's yours, at no charge, the 1st of what may be quite a number of these knives--for I am now kind of enthusiastic over it and like the way it came out. Hope you do too.

I was particularly glad to discover we could cut the sawteeth in once we set our minds to it. These aren't bad either--we took a garbage can lid and cut it out of it without phasing the teeth at all.

...Brass pipe, of course, too heavy for the "compartment handle" -- So we finally dreamed up the stainless tubing. Then the problem of capping the end cropped up--since we were unable to thread said tubing and besides threading and making special threaded (watertight) cap too expensive....So! the crutch tip had to do it.

It is now our idea that the user will wrap whatever material he desires around the metal part of the handle, to attain a desired slip-proof grip; I'd think it could be either cotton or nylon cord glued into place; leather strips; or easiest of all--just adhesive tape of one kind or another.

...Anyway! here's hoping you like the way "she" came out. I am sending you a 2nd one also--for you to see how they will sell at $28.50, which is what we'll have to get for them."





..."There is a lot of interest here for the knife,' Ingraham noted, "but most of the pilots are 'getting short' on their tours and don't want to spend the money this late in the game. I would certainly think that the knife would sell as a catalogue item, if the enthusiasm of the small detachment here is any indication." Within a couple of years, these words proved to be prophetic.




Lady and gentlemen, may we please see some Model 18s?
Kevin
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#35836 - 02/10/08 11:55 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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A couple pics of recently made 18-5.5's




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#35837 - 02/10/08 11:56 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Cabinet_Man]
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#35838 - 02/10/08 12:22 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Model 18 5 1/2" transition knife, 4 1/2" handle w/deep threads. Johnson riveted model C no hone sheath.


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#35839 - 02/10/08 01:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Burnie]
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We've posted this one before...I'm not sure if it's the handle that makes the knife, or the blade grind...anyhoo, this one has a Model #18 handle, and a very cool Model #15 'Bowie Clip' blade grind...

We also have a another with a Model #18 handle and Model #14 'standard' blade grind...just so's ya know, we're always looking for these types of 'odd-ball' RMK's btw



This other one isn't a knife that we own, an 'all-stainless' Model #18-5.5; although we shoulda bought it when we had a chance...so, if anyone has a spare just laying around, well, you know...



Cool thread idea Kevin, thanks for making it so
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#35840 - 02/10/08 03:29 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Here's a Mini with it's "Grandpa". Follow the post for additional pics.

Enjoy, Tom #3081


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#35841 - 02/10/08 03:32 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: 1gunner]
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This Mini is "verified" and documented by Pete Hamilton. I have always wanted one of these but feared of picking up a counterfeit one...waited and got this one recently.
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#35842 - 02/10/08 03:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: 1gunner]
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The "Grandpa". A very early Model 18 Crutchtip in Superb Condition. I have had several Crutchtips pass through my hands and this is unquestionably the nicest I have had the pleasure to own. It has a 7 1/2" carbon blade, early splitback sheath with original lacings, and original carborundum stone. All original minus the receipt and the box it came in.

Enjoy, Tom #3081


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#35843 - 02/10/08 04:16 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: 1gunner]
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Here's mine. It's a user, so it is equipped with a pocket pull saw wrapped around the handle and since it is quite sharp, I wrapped the saw with orange para-cord. The inside is stuffed with marine matches and the cap has a compass. I pack it when I am flying non-commercial and especially in choppers. Hope I never have to use it, but at least I feel confident when I have my Randall with me.


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#35844 - 02/10/08 04:27 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: pappy19]
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Nice pair Tom, I'll try to post similar later...in the mean time, would you - could you, post a pic of the rear of the crutch tip sheath? Small rivet splitback sheaths are very rare, only made for a few months in very late 1966 and very early 1967...the first green paracord was introduced a few months later

Pappy, thas' cool dude...looks like you're well prepared!
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#35845 - 02/10/08 06:31 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: 1gunner]
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Tom,
Beautiful Crutchtip.
Here's three early Crutchtips,all have Johnson Splitback Sheaths.
Solingen,Orlando & Orlando Shorty.
GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!!!


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#35846 - 02/10/08 06:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: BigJim]
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Great knives Jim!
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#35847 - 02/10/08 07:06 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: BigJim]
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Sheldon, Here's a pic of the back of the sheath. Rivets appear to me to be the same as others I have seen on splitback sheaths....though I learn something new all the time here.

BigJim, Darn near got enough for a Fire Team there. Very, very nice.

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#35848 - 02/10/08 07:40 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: 1gunner]
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Here's my 1972 crutch tip #18, shown with original box, two catalogs (one the year knife was ordered one the year the knife was delivered) care sheet and letter from shop confirming order.


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#35849 - 02/10/08 08:01 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: boardrider]
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Griff,
All I can say is "WOW"!!
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Here's Griffs Crutchtip.


Edited by BigJim (02/10/08 08:11 PM)
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#35850 - 02/10/08 08:15 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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I would like to thank everyone for a great first day of Model 18's.
We have been very fortunate to see a wide variety of knives, from older to new.
Thank you all very much.
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#35851 - 02/10/08 08:16 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: BigJim]
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#18 7.5...My first Randall Love!
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#35852 - 02/10/08 08:34 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Tony, let me do a nautical wrap for you. Same way they used to wrap harpoons. That way, you will have no loose ends.

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#35853 - 02/10/08 08:53 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: BigJim]
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Big Jim, THANKS for making that picture show up without clicking the attachment, I still need to learn how to do that.
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#35854 - 02/10/08 09:06 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: 7033grip]
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Thanks Dubie!
I'll have to take you up on that some day.
I was thinking about removing that twine...haven't carried that big guy in a
while, and it would be nice to see it "naked" again.
Tony
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#35855 - 02/10/08 09:30 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Doh, my bad Tom...from here, in your first photo, they looked like all small rivets to me. Hmmm, maybe I'd better get a new monitor...lol
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#35856 - 02/12/08 10:21 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Sheldon_Wickersham]
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Let's post pics for the the contest !
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#35857 - 02/12/08 11:18 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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an oldie but goodie...


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#35858 - 02/12/08 11:22 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: RKS3500]
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flip side..


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#35859 - 02/13/08 04:13 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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#35860 - 02/13/08 07:16 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: coltcrazyinky]
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All Stainless 18

Enjoy

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#35861 - 02/13/08 07:22 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: bp682]
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You guys are all great for sharing your knives with us.
Do you have any stories regarding your knives?
Kevin
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#35862 - 02/14/08 07:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Sweet 'All-Stainless' Barry! If ya ever want to, well, you know...

Anyhoo, as promised, more Model #18's - all with stainless blades, all unused & minty, all from right around 1972...



Why '72 you ask, and stories too?

The Mini #18 came from Joe Castello of Castello's Firearms & Sporting Goods in San Jose. We'd heard that Joe had taken in some Randall's; we went to visit and yes, he had just taken in some 65 Randall knives...he asked how many we wanted, and we said 'All of them please'

We cut him a few checks over the course of the next few weeks, and they were ours. In the process Joe mentioned that he used to run with the late Nate Posner of the San Francisco Gun Exchange fame, an early RMK dealer. Joe went on to say that in 1971, if a dealer bought three Randall fighting/combat knives for the troops overseas, RMK would give them a mini #18 as a way of saying thanks. He had, and they did - he received the knife in 1972.

Edna and I went back for the final pick-up with Edna' mini-collection in hand. Joe was keeping his mini #18 though...I went back just before Edna's birthday and tried again, offering $1xxx, then more. Finally Joe agreed that it would be a nice addition to Edna's mini collection...

I came back to pay for the knife the next day and Joe looked me in the eye and asked point blank "Sheldon, that knife is worth quite a bit more than you offered, isn't it?" I looked him over, then responded 'Yes Joe, yes it is'..."You just bought yourself a knife then" he said with a smile.

Turns out, he had put the knife in a display case earlier in the day, and a fellow had offered him $2500 for it. Joe had turned down the offer, saying the knife was already sold. His asking me about the value was simply his way of judging my character. We've since become good friends

So, there ya go, some cool knives, with a story to boot...

p.s. The Crutch-tip was a walk-in at the OKCA show a few years back - I was talking with Mike Silvey at his show table when this fellow that was thumbing thru Mike's 'Knives of the United States Military in Vietnam' book said "Hey, I've got a knife just like that at home." He went on to say that he had ordered the knife in late 1971, and received it in mid 1972.

Too nice to use, it had set in a sock drawer since. Mike ended up buying the knife, then sold it to us the next day with the admonishment that it was for our public display collection, and that he'd 'better not see it on eBay next week'...that was four years ago
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#35863 - 06/25/08 06:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Sheldon_Wickersham]
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This vintage Model 18, Solingen blade, belongs to National Geographic photographer Emory Kristoff.

It has performed faithfully on many, many expeditions for the National Geographic Society, allowing its owner to bring back images for the National Geographic magazine for more than four decades.

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#35864 - 03/06/09 07:01 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Mr. Miller just finished authenticating theses knives for me and I missed them so much I had to get a group shot.
From left to right.
All stainless #18 7 ½
All stainless #18 5 ½ from the 70’s (Mr. Miller has only seen two this old and the other is in the shop.)
#15 Stainless steel, brass #18 hilt, #18 knurled handle
#15 Carbon #18 hilt, #18 handle
#15 Stainless #18 hilt, #18 handle
#14 stainless #18 hilt, #18 handle
#14 Carbon, #18 hilt, #18 handle
Mini #18 knurled handle with compass and snap sheath with 18M on back
Mini #18 with stone pouch sheath
I was going in the #18 direction with my collection but I think my taste hase changed since I have acquired these.


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#35865 - 03/07/09 06:21 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JesseEgnew]
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Nice pics & nicest stories Guys,
This treat is very interesting...shell post some of these pics in the EDO contest...
Mine 18 will appear next Mond.
have a nice week end
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#35866 - 03/10/09 12:05 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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I never posted my Mod.18 before...Hope U like them...



Parkerized
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#35867 - 03/10/09 01:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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Nice collection Guido. That one with the finger wrapping is really nice.
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#35868 - 03/10/09 01:58 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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Guido,
NICE GROUPING!
Here is my #18, that I posted before, but now with new wrapping.
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#35869 - 03/10/09 02:13 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Nice Tony. There is something about the 18's that really make me like them. Other than the fact they are Randalls.
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#35870 - 03/10/09 02:18 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Oldvetnam1]
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Tony,
that's the "Timberland" version since you dressed it like that...
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#35871 - 03/10/09 04:31 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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Steve,
You're right! I HAVE TO agree since this was my VERY FIRST Randall!
Guido ... "Timberland" ... I like that!
Tony
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#35872 - 03/10/09 07:51 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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Guido and Tony,

Thanks for posting your Model 18's.
All very nice,

Kevin
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#35873 - 06/20/09 03:55 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Here is my #18 with Skull Crusher:

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#35874 - 06/21/09 03:36 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Sheldon_Wickersham]
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Quote:

Doh, my bad Tom...from here, in your first photo, they looked like all small rivets to me. Hmmm, maybe I'd better get a new monitor...lol




Actually, there was some smaller harness rivets used on occasion that are only slightly larger than tandard 'star' rivets but noticeably smaller than the harness rivets shown in the photos of Big Jims #18 sheaths. They can be mistaken for standard rivets on first examination. If you compare the the throat rivets in the photos, you can see the size difference.







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#35875 - 09/27/09 06:31 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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The following picture is my attempt at humor, it is not really available.

Here is the new Randall #18/thumb drive
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#35876 - 09/27/09 06:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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I like it Peter but I can see my office freaking out.
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#35877 - 09/27/09 09:59 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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I like it!

That and putting O Rings on the grip idea I heard from Kevin could push me toward an 18!
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#35878 - 09/28/09 09:42 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: tomthbomb]
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Hello everyone!
picture is not that good, but I wanted to show my pride and my joy, that my recently made # 18!
It's a user and i pictured it with a bit of stuff that I stored in the handle... seemed like a good idea to wrap the handle with paracord, too.
Tony, Peter (and all other guys), what do you think about it?
best regards,


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#35879 - 09/28/09 10:36 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Daniele]
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Hi Daniele
That is a nice model 18. I like the paracord wrap because it can be removed and used in an emergency.
I have also thought about using a bicycle handlebar grip on my model 18. I think they are about the right size and available in many different styles

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#35880 - 09/28/09 03:28 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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Peter, thanks for the advice ...
I find very interesting the idea of the bicycle handlebars grip. I really think I'll try both...
best,
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#35881 - 09/28/09 05:25 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Daniele]
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Try an "Ektelon" raquetball raquet grip. They fit better, with less trimming and allow for electrical tape and monofilament to be wrapped underneath them against the tube handle!
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#35882 - 09/29/09 07:59 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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really good suggestion ...
I especially like the idea of wrapping fishing line and wire directly on the handle, under the binding.
Thank you, Captain...
best,
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#35883 - 09/29/09 09:31 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Daniele]
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Here is my 18 it's "Tour De France" garb!

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#35884 - 09/29/09 09:51 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Daniele]
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Daniele,
Molto Buono!
Some Para Cord or Waxed Twine wrapped around the handle and you'll be
ready for anything!
Ciao,
Tony
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#35885 - 09/29/09 10:41 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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I have a bycicle tire intertube over waxed line on my 18-5 1/2 Model 18. It works well.

Truthfully though, I wish I had a 7 1/2 inch blade on this knife. The "stubby" 18 just doesn't suit me.
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#35886 - 11/04/09 04:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: David]
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Here's my Model #18 circa early 70's.


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#35887 - 11/04/09 04:42 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tanasie]
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Those older buttcaps sure had a lot of thread. Looks like it would take a couple of days to remove the cap.

Nice looking knife and sheath. Love those 5 1/2" Model 18s!
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#35888 - 11/04/09 06:13 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Tom....this one has a handle that is a 1/2 " longer than the standard length.
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#35889 - 11/05/09 10:38 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tanasie]
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Rex, the handle does look a little longer now that you mentioned it. Dang handmade knives! No consistency.
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#35890 - 02/05/10 03:58 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Model #18-5.5" 'SOLINGEN STAINLESS' blade...small black compass, grey unmarked stone... early 70's.


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#35891 - 02/05/10 04:49 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tanasie]
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Rex,
Nice One!
I never get tired of that distinctive look of the #18.
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#35892 - 02/05/10 06:24 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tanasie]
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Nice knife Rex. Thanks for posting.
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#35893 - 02/05/10 06:31 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tanasie]
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Nice Model 18.
Thanks for taking the time to post on The Knife Of The Week.

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#35894 - 03/13/10 10:07 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Another couple of 18's...


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#35895 - 03/14/10 05:16 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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For O1 steel Model 18s, how do you keep the blade from rusting?

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#35896 - 03/14/10 06:35 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: nickgomez]
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Nick -

Some guys use renwax, I keep a light coat of oil on the blade at all times(whatever type of oil I have on hand).

Don't store your knife in the sheath, if it is sitting in a safe or being "stored", keep them seperate if possable.

If your 18 spends lots of time in a sheath on your LBE, pull it out as as often as you can and coat the blade with some sort oil...if your sheath gets wet, make sure you let it dry before putting your knife back in it.

Hope this helps,
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#35897 - 03/14/10 10:54 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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Peter, you have a great sense of humor. Now this is a way to' unobtrusively' sneak out purloined data from a secure facility, perhaps singing and dancing past an appreciative guard [ for those who understand ] "SCIF TO MY LOU MY DARLING."

What do you folks store inside handle when actually using #18?

For example few .22s. as the powder can start a fire under adverse conditions. Mini light. etc.

Great thread.


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#35898 - 03/14/10 11:56 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Topos]
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Here's a shot of my #18 7 1/2". SS blade, Gold paracord and the sheath is prepunched for rivets. One of my favorite Randalls.


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#35899 - 03/15/10 04:13 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Byrdguy's # 18.


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#84033 - 12/21/10 11:01 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tom_D]
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Quick question:

If I find an older model 18, are all end caps interchangable?
If it doesn't have a compass cap, can I just find one and use it or are they Year/Thread specific?
Also, will Randall "Check" a smooth handle?

Not certain I want to change how the old 18 looks, but I'm just curious?

Pix to follow, when it arrives.


Edited by Drshame (12/21/10 11:02 PM)

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#84041 - 12/22/10 10:55 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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Originally Posted By: Drshame
Quick question:

If I find an older model 18, are all end caps interchangable?
If it doesn't have a compass cap, can I just find one and use it or are they Year/Thread specific?
Also, will Randall "Check" a smooth handle?

Not certain I want to change how the old 18 looks, but I'm just curious?

Pix to follow, when it arrives.

I don't know about the caps,but I think the handles are knurled(checked)before they are attached to the blades.The knurling is done on a lathe and it would be hard to chuck up the blade/complete knife in the headstock.29r


Edited by 2ninersavo (12/22/10 10:56 AM)

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#84247 - 12/29/10 12:29 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: 2ninersavo]
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Recent Pre-Owned Purchase, Model 18/ 5.5 with Randall Sheath and Sharpening Stone. It's not a stainless Steel Model, so it must be their tool steel version 01?
It looks to be in very good shape, and has a "tight thread" cap without a compass and takes forever to unscrew!
It got a good polishing out of the box, but the cap is a bear to try and clean up.
Any tips to getting the grooves clean?
The sheath has the Randall Logo/markings/ties on the front. But the back is unmarked without any model numbers or other marks.
Any ideas how old it is and if it's got its' original sheath?
I understand why this model is in the Museum of Modern Art. While I could use the handle knurling and possibly the bigger blade, the form/design/balance on this knife is exceptional.
Suggestions for what to use on the blade to keep it from any rusting?
It almost looked as if it had its' original-shipping coating on it before I wiped it all down.


Edited by Drshame (12/29/10 12:31 AM)

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#84248 - 12/29/10 12:41 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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I believe this is a "put-together" outfit. The knife appears to be too early for that sheath. There are no model #'s on the "C" styled sheaths anymore as they share usage with several models. The #15, #17 and #18-5 1/2" all reside in the same leather. Hope this helps...(or not)...
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#84249 - 12/29/10 12:44 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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Looks to be a 90s model. At least the sheath. The model C sheaths dont have the blade length or models stamped.

Get some Sentry solutions Marine tuff cloth and tuff glide. This will keep the knife from rusting in storage very well and in use too. It is a dry film rust inhibitor. The best stuff I have ever used!

http://www.sentrysolutions.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=SENTRY

Originally Posted By: Drshame

Recent Pre-Owned Purchase, Model 18/ 5.5 with Randall Sheath and Sharpening Stone. It's not a stainless Steel Model, so it must be their tool steel version 01?
It looks to be in very good shape, and has a "tight thread" cap without a compass and takes forever to unscrew!
It got a good polishing out of the box, but the cap is a bear to try and clean up.
Any tips to getting the grooves clean?
The sheath has the Randall Logo/markings/ties on the front. But the back is unmarked without any model numbers or other marks.
Any ideas how old it is and if it's got its' original sheath?
I understand why this model is in the Museum of Modern Art. While I could use the handle knurling and possibly the bigger blade, the form/design/balance on this knife is exceptional.
Suggestions for what to use on the blade to keep it from any rusting?
It almost looked as if it had its' original-shipping coating on it before I wiped it all down.


Edited by Leatherman (12/29/10 12:45 AM)
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#84250 - 12/29/10 12:48 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Capt..Any ideas on the knifes' age?
What details does it have to indicate it's an older 18?
What should we be looking at in dating the model 18's through the years?

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#84251 - 12/29/10 12:58 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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"Oiled metal will not rust". Gun oil, 3-N-1 oil, Ballistol, Break-Free, Rem Oil; all work. Some folks use Renn Wax.

On the grooves of the buttcap, maybe scrub Simichrome Metal Polish or Flitz Metal Polish using a M-16 toothbrush. Top off with Ren.Wax.

Nice model 18. Don't see many carbon steel 18's.
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#84255 - 12/29/10 07:43 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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"Lined" pattern butt cap (The one you're having trouble with) was replaced with a "checkered" butt cap in the very early 90's. "After" that...The "silver" snaps were replaced with the "logo"-almost "pewter-finished" snaps. It is "unlikely" that the old cap and the newer sheath came out of the shop together. I hope I have explained this correctly. You can always email me..."Doctor"...
Best, Capt. Chris


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#84257 - 12/29/10 08:23 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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The knife should probably have a JRB sheath with orange stone.
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#84258 - 12/29/10 09:30 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Thanks for the help. always appreciated.
So I'd guess by the lined cap, it would be close to 20 years if not a little older, with a newer-style sheath.
The "Randall Snaps" are nicely finished, as the Capt. explained and do look almost pewter-like.

Is it me, or does the tool steel have a brighter shine to it than the SS?
Out of the box with a simple wipe-down, not even a major polishing effort, the blade looks "brighter".

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#84429 - 01/02/11 10:01 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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Gentlemen,

I have been lurking for quite some time now and figured this was a great thread for my first post.

My 5.5 carbon steel, knurled handle, model #18. I did a couple things to make it mine. Carbon blade was etched in vinegar to give it a nice patina for decent corrosion resistance and a more subdued look, waxed the sheath, cord wrapped the handle and added a capsule for the inside of the hollow handle for organization of the kit.

I bought it brand new from Kittery Trading post last August. As you can see, I have used it hard.



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#84431 - 01/02/11 11:50 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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Good looking user; exactly what it was made for. Also, welcome to the forum.

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#84434 - 01/02/11 12:15 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: pappy19]
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Nice looking knife JR3.

One tip on a user. Put the leg lanyard ends through the bottom of the leg tie tab, then put the ends through the loop and pull, then the bottom of the sheath will not slide around on the leg. A very simple but very usefull tip IMO.


Edited by Leatherman (01/02/11 12:21 PM)
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#84435 - 01/02/11 12:30 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Leatherman]
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JR3, Nice knife and welcome. Jimmy
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#84437 - 01/02/11 01:02 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: HALORANGER]
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Thank you all for the warm welcome!

Leatherman, great tip. I normally remove the tie down before it goes on my belt, but I will keep that in mind for sure.
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#84438 - 01/02/11 01:48 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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Welcome Aboard JR. Good looking knife.
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#84451 - 01/02/11 07:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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A few months ago Capt. Chris started a thread here asking what items people might carry in the handle of their Model 18's.

It didn't get a lot of play, but it would be interesting to have you list the contents of your 18's handle.

Thanks,
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#84454 - 01/02/11 08:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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JR3,
Nice 18, and nice modifications!!!
Welcome to the Forums!
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#84462 - 01/03/11 06:34 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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I'll get a list and picture of the contents in the handle later today.
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#84479 - 01/03/11 10:43 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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JR3,

Couple questions..

What is the capsule and where can it be purchased?

What kind of small diameter cord did you use on the handle and where can it be purchased?

Thanks and welcome to the forum!

Tom
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#84488 - 01/03/11 04:33 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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As promised,

Fishhooks
Fishing line
Eye hooks- Fishing and traps
several bundles of tinder
Mini Ferro rod
Pain Killers
Sterile sewing/suture kit
Sterile scalpel blade
3 Life boat matches-striker in capsule
3 swivels- fishing or traps

A very basic kit, but the contents are effective.



The line used is the same line used to anchor Duck Decoys. It was purchased from Cabelas, I believe.

The capsule is from an old Brewer Survival Knife. Pretty decent knife, just not my thing. The capsule, however is very useful. Actually was used by me while I was overseas as an "escape" capsule. Never needed, thank God.
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#84490 - 01/03/11 04:42 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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Pretty Cool!
I like the Morse Code on the capsule.
Remember Morse Code??? grin
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#84491 - 01/03/11 04:59 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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- ... .- -. -.- ... .--- .-. ...--

That's, Thanks JR3, in Morse Code. grin

Curious...why no compass?


Edited by TAH (01/03/11 06:16 PM)
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#84493 - 01/03/11 06:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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You are welcome, TAH. And again, this is a very welcoming place.

TAH,
No compass. IMO, if there was a way to isolate the compass against shock, I would consider having one. But, eventually using the knife hard, it will give up the ghost. Then its just a non-functional item taking up space. In addition, I like to pound with it when seperating strands for cordage and use the handle cap for a bearing point when doing the Bow Drill method of firemaking. For me this seems to be one of the most time consuming items to find and make for the components needed in that process.

I is my opinion that the Model #18 with a 5.5 inch (O1 carbon for me only) blade is a superb outdoors/survival/take everywhere knife. Perfect tool size knife that is very versitile in the field. Remember; a survival knife in the sock drawer does you no good when it's needed.
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#84495 - 01/03/11 08:04 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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The handle of the 18 is good for storing things in it such as shown above, but I can't imagine a scenario where I would be in a survival situation and that knife and contents are the only things I would have to work with. A knapsack filled with gear and supplies plus a (any) Randall would be much more realistic, IMHO.
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#84496 - 01/03/11 08:12 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Originally Posted By: Byrdguy
The handle of the 18 is good for storing things in it such as shown above, but I can't imagine a scenario where I would be in a survival situation and that knife and contents are the only things I would have to work with. A knapsack filled with gear and supplies plus a (any) Randall would be much more realistic, IMHO.


watch the movie the edge
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#84497 - 01/03/11 08:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Leatherman]
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The handle offers extra insurance only. One would be in bad way if all he had was that micro kit to live with. On the flip side, it could very well put the odds back in ones favor. That's the way I look at it anyway. Extra insurance. It's comforting to know it's there if I ever needed it.

Great forum!
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#84498 - 01/03/11 08:48 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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Has anyone found a pill bottle or other container that fits inside the Model 18's handle and is capable of holding supplies?
What 's available out there if I want to put any goodies in a container and not directly inside the handle?

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#84502 - 01/03/11 09:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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I don't own a model 18 however, to offer my two cents. In real life scenarios, it's all about maintaining body temperature and staying hydrated. If I had an 18, I would use the handle to carry plenty of fire starting materials. I would want to have as many different ways to get that fire going as possible. Storm proof matchs, a flint, some steel wool, carbon cloth... little birch bark, and I would make sure I knew how to use each one of these before heading far off the trail.

The other stuff is cool and I like looking at it, but real life -think stay warmth, be able to signal and stay hydrated.
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#84503 - 01/03/11 09:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: WildBill]
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#84506 - 01/03/11 10:41 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Leatherman]
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Bill, You and I totally agree on this one. Hydration and temperature control is everything. There are alot of ways to complete these tasks. Your best tool will be on top of your shoulders. Know your enviroment and learn as much as you can about what it provides with the least amount of effort. Also make sure you are wearing that knife, if you can't get to anything else you might not be able to get to it. Jimmy
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#84512 - 01/04/11 08:56 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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No compass. IMO, if there was a way to isolate the compass against shock, I would consider having one. But, eventually using the knife hard, it will give up the ghost. Then its just a non-functional item taking up space.


JR3,

If you would like to have an emergency compass that can stay in your handle while pounding and is totally shock resistant, one option is this Brunton Survival Card Kit that has a peel off compass. Simply fill the palm of your hand with water and float the compass.

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#84524 - 01/04/11 04:10 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Gents,

It's refreshing to see good common sense when discussing a topic like survival. No fantasy BS here.

Here is a pic taken from this last Fall. I was on an outing practicing fire making with a ferro rod on just natural tinder, nothing man made. I was in the process of trying to get an amber going. The tinder in the pic is just plain, fine shredded birch bark as collected on sight. This was done a on a paper plate, or you could use a piece of bark. I used the flat on the back of the 18 to produce a nice shower of sparks.







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#84529 - 01/04/11 06:05 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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JR3, Nice pic - ok, were there any permanent marks on the blade from the flint, and is it stainless? Were you able to get fire?

very cool. Bill
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#84531 - 01/04/11 06:26 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: WildBill]
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I don't think the stainless blades will create the spark needed to ignite the tinder. Of course, like many times in life, I could be wrong.
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#84532 - 01/04/11 06:29 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: WildBill]
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Bill,

No permanent marks. The blade is carbon as I do not like stainless knives. Yes, I was able to get a fire. I wish I had a picture just a few seconds later. Mrs. JR3 took that one.

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#84535 - 01/04/11 06:50 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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JR3 Congrats.

Capt Chris - you are right, a stainless knife will (should) not create sparks, however, I didn't know if a purpose made flint would change that equation. I have one here though, I think I will give it a try and advise.

Bill



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#84536 - 01/04/11 07:02 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: WildBill]
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Gents,

Stainless blades work fine with Ferrocerium rods. It is a man made "flint" that only requires a 90 degree angle, or edge to make a good spark.

Now natural flint requires a hard carbon blade, or striker. No stainless for natural flint.
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#84537 - 01/04/11 07:13 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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Ok, we are off topic a litte (sorry), but this is interesting.

I have one of the man made ferro rods that stays on the model 5 when hunting - just in case. I just tried it using a Model 10-5 (stainless) and it did work. I then compared it to the standard carbon blade which worked noticeably better. However, both did work.

Agree though: natural flint + stainless steel blade = one cold night.
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#84546 - 01/04/11 08:52 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
I don't think the stainless blades will create the spark needed to ignite the tinder. Of course, like many times in life, I could be wrong.
Best, Capt. Chris


This guy is striking with a 154CM steel blade and a laminated VG10 core blade with 420 J2 side steel (the 420 is on the spine) he's getting some good sparks! Long video but a neat comparo IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIGrL1fJCu4
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#84547 - 01/04/11 09:02 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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Bill,

No permanent marks. The blade is carbon as I do not like stainless knives. Yes, I was able to get a fire. I wish I had a picture just a few seconds later. Mrs. JR3 took that one.


I used to be in the same boat. I recently bought a Randall #16 SF (stainless only) and took it into the woods the other day. I must say it worked great I chopped down two good sized trees (5-6 inches across) and made some feather sticks for a fire. After, I then did some carving. After all this I get back to the house and do a paper test and it still cut through the paper almost like it did before I went out!

My model 14 wont be able to cut paper after less work! I touched up the 16 SF's edge on my leather strop (with green compound on it) and it was hair poping sharp again!

After my experience with the 16 SF now I feel the need for a stainless 14! The 16 SF is a great bush knife but its a little lighter than the 14 making it a great carry companion but not as good for chopping down a tree.


Edited by Leatherman (01/04/11 09:08 PM)
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#84558 - 01/05/11 09:45 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Leatherman]
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Originally Posted By: Leatherman
This guy is striking with a 154CM steel blade and a laminated VG10 core blade with 420 J2 side steel (the 420 is on the spine) he's getting some good sparks!


Yep, he's using a Fällkniven knife. The sharp spine edges on their laminated stainless blades were designed to work well with a Swedish FireSteel. Also, FireSteels come with a stainless striker.

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#84572 - 01/05/11 05:19 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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That is the same firesteel I used in my test above. Works well.
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#84597 - 01/05/11 11:19 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: WildBill]
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Leatherman -
Details on your leather strop please.
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#84598 - 01/05/11 11:28 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Rob_Schoening]
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This is my exact strop, purchased from KSF. I first bought it for my Bark River brand knives because they are convex but used it on my other knives too and it works wonders. I always finish off with the strop after I touch my knives to my Arkansas hones or after a days worth of work in the woods. The best part is it dose not wear your knives down like a stone would.

Also your edge will last longer if you use a strop, a fine edge lasts longer than a coarse edge!

http://www.knivesshipfree.com/product_info.php?cPath=637_638&products_id=6348
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#84626 - 01/07/11 08:29 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Leatherman]
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Let's talk Compasses:

Did the compass end caps ship with the Model 18's straight from Randall or were they aftermarket options?

When did they move from grooved to checked?

How long have they been part of the Model 18 "Lore" and what's with Thermometers in caps now?

Any other interesting end caps for the 18?

What about the "Skull-Crushers" are they actually used by anyone for anything more than a nasty looking novelty?

Anyone try getting a double threaded cap and screwing together two Model 18's?

Though I don't know why anyone would want to!

Then there's spear shafts..but that'll wait for another post.

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#84629 - 01/08/11 12:33 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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The compass is installed at the shop. Checkered butt caps (as opposed to to lined butt caps) came about in the late 80's...If I had to take a guess for an approx. date.
Best, Capt. Chris


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#84631 - 01/08/11 06:50 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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What is the purpose of the counter sunk holes in the hand guard?
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#84633 - 01/08/11 07:27 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: WildBill]
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Bill

One of the uses for the holes in the hilt, so I have been told, is to lash a stick to the knife, then use the knife as a spear.

I am sure people have found other uses for them.
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#84634 - 01/08/11 07:30 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: WildBill]
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The "#18 holes" are to assist you in attatching a spear. You can whittle yourself a long stick, shove it down the tube and lash it into a more "fixed" position by wrapping 440 cord around the shaft of the spear, looping it through the provided holes and securing it with (hopefully) your vast knowledge of proper knots for proper jobs. Hope this helps.
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#84635 - 01/08/11 09:00 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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I have a skull crusher cap on my 18 5.5. It's good for opening things, like cans, and crushing the shells on walnuts. Granted, walnuts are not exactly survival food, but I do find a surprising number of uses for the cap.
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#84636 - 01/08/11 10:05 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: David]
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Well, there ya have it ... David ... I was thinking the same thing ...
that if I had a skull crusher cap, I'd crush me some wall nuts ... almonds ... hazel nuts ... brazil nuts. (I'm nuts about nuts) laugh
Hey ... might be good for crushing a crustacean! - Survival food if I were stranded in a hot place on a beach! grin
Then again, the flat cap of my early 80s #18 would probably do just fine.
Seriously, I like all this discussion about the 18 ... My FIRST Randall!
Gives me an idea about stating a thread on our First Randalls!
-Stay Tuned!
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#84637 - 01/08/11 10:10 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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There you go Tony - The question should be is your first Randall, like your first true love - The Best?
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#84638 - 01/08/11 10:45 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: WildBill]
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smile Ah! ... Well ...
I only have ONE True Love.
But I have MANY Randalls!
I WILL say ... if I had to or wanted to get rid of most of my Randalls ...PERISH THE THOUGHT! ... shocked -
My #18 - My First RANDALL Love - would stay.
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#84639 - 01/08/11 11:02 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Tony...and all of you other "survivalists":
I like the idea of your first Randall. Tony: I elect you to start that thread. Go for it!!
ME? I'm gonna go to "tents-n-trails" and start a survival thread!! See ya' over there!
Best, Capt. Chris
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#84640 - 01/08/11 11:14 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Cap ...
WILL DO!
Great idea for the "Survival Thread!!
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#84794 - 01/12/11 10:28 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Just adding mine to the line up. Wasn't sure if this one should go under the 18s or the 15s. crazy



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#84851 - 01/12/11 09:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Very nice Tom!
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#84853 - 01/12/11 10:19 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Tom,
Very Cool! Definitely a Model 18 ... in my view anyway. It just has a #14 blade!!!! grin
I got those matches in my #18 also!
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#84881 - 01/13/11 11:59 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Thanks Rob and Tony. Actually, it's a #15 blade measuring 5.5". Those matches are like little torches. They work very well.
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#84916 - 01/13/11 06:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Awesome, Tom. If you ever want to part with that jewel........
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#84962 - 01/14/11 09:37 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Thanks Pat. This one would be hard to let go. Fortunately, I happened to have the correct time period Marbles compass for it. I didn't want to permanently epoxy the compass in the buttcap, so I used a rubber gasket to hold it in place by pressure. This way the compass can be easily removed with no real harm to the buttcap.
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#85941 - 02/14/11 10:43 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Subdued #15 and #18.

And

Subdued #14 and #18.

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#85945 - 02/15/11 05:29 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Rob_Schoening]
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Those look great!
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#85947 - 02/15/11 06:09 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Rick Magee]
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I am likeing that 14 a whole lot Rob. When are you starting the line for one of those?
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#85949 - 02/15/11 08:40 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Rob_Schoening]
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Nice looking finishes Rob. A durable, subdued finish for combat Randall knives has been needed for some time. Is that Duracoat?
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#85973 - 02/16/11 04:53 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Rick_Bowles]
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Thanks for the comments guys!

Rick, the finish is achieved using aluminum oxide as the blast media. I dig your son's 18, the handle wrap sets it off!

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#86035 - 02/18/11 07:28 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Rob_Schoening]
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Rob, I totally dig the subdued 18. I may have mine blasted now. The handy thing about that type of finish is, when you muck it up, you can just have it re-blasted to look like new again.

Rick,
your sons 18 is also very cool. Did baking the finish effect the epoxy bond in the handle at all?

TIA
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#86036 - 02/18/11 07:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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Not at all, the baking temp is 110°.
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#86041 - 02/18/11 07:57 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Rick_Bowles]
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Thank you, Sir.
Your Son is a lucky man.
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#86070 - 02/19/11 08:26 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Rick_Bowles]
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Here is a little experiment I did with my model 18
I bought some brown micarta tubing, 1 inch inside diameter and 1.25 inch outside diameter and made a slip on cover for the handle of my 18. I put some finger grooves in it too.
There is no permanent alteration to the knife.

Who knows, there could be an ironwood cover in the future too smile

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#86071 - 02/19/11 08:52 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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I like it! Outstanding idea Peter.
Thanks, Capt. Chris
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#86072 - 02/19/11 10:08 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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That is slick Peter!
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#86073 - 02/19/11 10:33 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Rob_Schoening]
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Peter, Thats a great idea. Very clean.
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#86075 - 02/20/11 04:16 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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Peter
That is very unique and looks functional. You have done a great job.
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#86076 - 02/20/11 07:00 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: rodbrown]
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That's great Peter.
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#86082 - 02/20/11 10:31 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Oldvetnam1]
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Really Sharp, Peter. The knife and your handle addition.
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#86086 - 02/20/11 02:31 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Duke]
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I have had that design idea in my head for years. Great minds think alike and im glad to see it come to fruition.
I had the additional idea of leaving enough material to taper into the hilt and counterboring and I.D. chamfering the end for a slight recess for the cap. And deeper finger grooves with no break through and slight palm swell. It would result in a fater than usual handle but I always thought it would look great. I just never attempted it.
Good job!
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#86087 - 02/20/11 02:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: rodbrown]
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Great job Peter! I would love to see Randall Knives be innovative like back in the day and offer things like that from the shop.
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#86091 - 02/20/11 07:08 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Leatherman]
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Thanks for all of the nice comments guys. I like to tinker in my basement and had thought about this for a while. I had a lot of fun making it, and I still have a big piece of the micarta and may try a version with some grooves in it.

Peter
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#86466 - 03/05/11 11:59 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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Easy question:
I took my 5" Model 18 out for quick trip down to the Everglades.
It went in its' sheath and was not needed for any survival duties.
Or I wasn't creative enough to find a use for it out in the swamps.
But of course, when I got home, the bladed was smudged from handling and going in and out of the sheath and the Brass Handguards had fingerprints all over them.
It took just a few minutes with some Flitz to get it back in it's more acceptable, spotless condition.

Am I the only one who, after using my 18, re-polishes it after even the shortest handling, much less even using it to cut something?

Don't have the same problem with my Kitchen Duty Model 10's!


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#86475 - 03/06/11 12:18 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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I clean, sometimes polish, and always put a light coat of Ren Wax on all my knives after any use or trip outdoors.
I only polish with Flitz if there are spots or stains.
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#86480 - 03/06/11 01:52 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Tony, Is Flitz bad for Light, occasional use only?
My 5" 18 is not a stainless blade, so I am aware it needs to be kept clean and dry.
The handle is stainless?
The Brass Hand guards will discolor/tarnish in a heartbeat if they are handled and not cleaned..along with the buttcap.

I guess that's where the coatings come in for a real hard-use 18..like it was made for.

Or...let it show it's nicks and scars and chalk it up to "character"" like the rest of us?

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#86485 - 03/06/11 05:37 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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Well, I think Flitz is slightly abrasive, so I do use it sparingly.
The handle is stainless. Brass will always darken a little, even in a presentation case. A little Flitz or other metal polish
will bring it back easily.
If it's a regular user ... don't sweat it. It will get a little "character" over the years and be fine. As long as it's "used and not abused."
Tony
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#86486 - 03/06/11 05:47 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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This product was mentioned in another thread. Tom Glassco uses it.
I will give it a try. Seems to be less abrasive than Flitz.
http://www.maasinc.com/products_metalpolish.aspx
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#86488 - 03/06/11 06:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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Edited by tglassco (03/07/11 01:20 AM)
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#86704 - 03/15/11 08:52 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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New Model 18/7 S



A work of art that earned its' place in a museum or on the front line of combat.

Unbelievable finish and detail!

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#86705 - 03/15/11 10:06 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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You bet Bro, there is none better.

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#86714 - 03/16/11 05:16 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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Great looking knife.
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#86721 - 03/16/11 11:40 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Oldvetnam1]
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That's very nice Randall. Thank's for showing
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#86734 - 03/16/11 06:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: kalervo]
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And the best part is it's the same attention to finish and detail that went into Model 18's since they started making them. Their attention to detail is amazing thru the years. I suspect the 18 is one of their "Showcase" products.

My older 18 may have some character marks thru the years, but it also show an incredible amount of detail too...so I know it's a pedigree that's been maintained for years.

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#86843 - 03/20/11 10:59 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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Received this #18 a few weeks ago and finally had a little time to get out in the woods with it. I couldn't be more pleased; Randall's attention to their knives amazes me every time that I'm lucky enough to open one and to then get to carry and use it.

I hope the pics. aren't too bad--got back today later than planned.


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#86847 - 03/21/11 06:47 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Duke]
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Great looking knife Duke. Enjoy.
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#86851 - 03/21/11 08:19 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Duke]
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Nice Duke!
Did you carry it on your belt?
Kind-a-like carrying a small sword, no? grin
Last time I used mine I kept it close by, in a thwart bag in my canoe.
Tony
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#86876 - 03/21/11 10:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Thanks Tony and Steve, and yep, I definitely knew that I had it on my belt. But it felt GREAT, both on the belt and balanced in my hand. I wear weight bearing suspenders and belt when carrying a pack to be out for a few nights or week on trails and I think I've just about figured out the perfect way to carry the #18 for access and ease.

Like I said: WHAT A KNIFE!!!
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#86894 - 03/22/11 08:22 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Duke]
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I think for casual field work and ease of carry..the 5" may beat it's bigger brother. It seems a very convenient, compromised size for everyday field work.
But if I need a full-blown survival tool for harsh environments ...I'd probably go with the bigger brother...and not worry about the extra size/weight.
For what they are made for, both are absolute classics, imho.

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#95631 - 11/20/11 02:37 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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New shot of my 18-7, just wanted to share with better lighting and a little different image.

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#95641 - 11/20/11 07:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Drshame]
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Nice one, that's what I have as well.

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#100268 - 04/07/12 03:20 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: pappy19]
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simple 18 for me .

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#100274 - 04/07/12 08:58 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: fabio]
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Fabio,
Simple is Beautiful!
Nice #18.
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#100277 - 04/07/12 12:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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A bigger version of your Model 18-7 for survival usage

13.5" blade Reinforced handle/tang

A few have been made.

Not a sales promotion, just making the OP aware of more serious stuff out there.

Tom Vaught


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#100278 - 04/07/12 12:23 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tom Vaught]
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Tom...thanks for sharing this image....look's like a 'Tom Clinton' inspiration. smile
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#100280 - 04/07/12 12:44 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tanasie]
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Just when I thought I have seen all the 18 variants. Wow. You guys never disappoint. Amazing.
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#100284 - 04/07/12 12:56 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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Very cool!
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#100286 - 04/07/12 01:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tom Vaught]
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That's a Model 18 Sword! grin
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#100287 - 04/07/12 02:12 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Thats a serious knife. Very cool.
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#100288 - 04/07/12 03:25 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Originally Posted By: TonyLaPetri
That's a Model 18 Sword! grin


My thoughts exactly. Awesome!!!
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#100291 - 04/07/12 07:18 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Tom,

Now that is a knife!

Cheers,

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#100293 - 04/07/12 07:52 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tanasie]
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The 13.5" SWORD was made by Rick Schuchmann (Scar Knives) for me some years ago. The #18 Concept Sword was based off of a TRUE Randall Made "Roman Short Sword" that TOM CLINTON DID loan Rick/me to use to make the sword.

I had three Swords made over the years. All three were based on actual Randal Made Sword dimensions. A Leather Handle Randall Roman Short Sword sold for over $20,000 a few years ago. The Model #18 version of the sword was inspired by a man I knew in S.E. Asia (who happened to have the moniker "The Sword").

But back to the real Model #18 blades.

Tom Vaught



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#100304 - 04/08/12 09:52 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tom Vaught]
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One of those swords would go nice in my sword collection.
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#100314 - 04/08/12 03:30 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Steven]
Robert Frey Offline
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Originally Posted By: Steven
One of those swords would go nice in my sword collection.


What type of swords do you collect?
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#100328 - 04/09/12 10:09 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Robert Frey]
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Crappy cheap ones. I love swords but can't afford anything really cool. I have some fairly nice Scottish Claymores and broadswords. Some cheap sword canes. My fathers best friend has a Japanese samurai sword that has been in his family for generations. No children to pass it on to. My dad always mentions to him that I collect. Ha maybe I'll get that one. But I don't have anything great as of yet.
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#101159 - 05/09/12 04:02 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Steven]
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Here is a stainless Model 18-5.5 - fully equipped with knurled handle and compass


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#101166 - 05/09/12 06:22 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Litch]
HALORANGER Offline
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Very nice knife and a the picture is first rate in my book. Thanks for sharing Peter.
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#101171 - 05/09/12 09:11 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: HALORANGER]
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Peter,

That is a really nice 18 and your picture is excellent. I have a 5.5 in carbon and am thinking my next will be a stainless 7.5...
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#101175 - 05/09/12 11:11 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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Here is a comparison of the two sizes of the Model 18 and a mini from the '70s.

Jim


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#101240 - 05/10/12 07:50 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Jim459]
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Jim,

Thanks for the comparison pic. It makes me want a 7.5 inch even more. I just received my new RMK catalogue in the mail. I may place my order for one direct in the spirit of the new catalogue. It says on the back that delivery dates are Dec 2016. I don't know if I can wait that long though.
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#101252 - 05/11/12 03:44 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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Thank you Jim - cool knives all three of them!
I never had the chance to compare them all "side by side".
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#101930 - 06/01/12 08:42 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Here is my latest addition to the family. The only minus about this knife is the sheath. It came with a newer style Model C. I would appreciate any info on the correct era sheath for it. I have been waiting a long time to purchase a Crutchtip. I have done some research and think this particular knife was made between 1965 to 70. Please let me know what you guy's think or know about this knife.


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#101941 - 06/01/12 10:54 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: HALORANGER]
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Wow, Jimmy. Now that is cool blade. Looks like its in stellar condition too. Sweet for sure. Congrats!
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#101942 - 06/01/12 10:58 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JR3]
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for a knife in that kind of shape, i would think a sheath can be found...and a Solingen too... congratulations, sheath or not!....being no sort of Randall expert, all i recall from time period is probably misinformation from writers into the early 80's stating Randall made expensive forged blade and threaded plugs, and also still offered a less expensive Solingen with crutchtip, and i would be interested in hearing about yours as well as any truth to that old "fact"....seems the rarer Solingens are the collectible today?


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#101946 - 06/02/12 12:44 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: HALORANGER]
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Halo you need a JRB Riveted Sheath. If you make the Blade Show next week you might be able to find one. You can post here that you are looking for one and someone may contact you. Be preparared to pay a high price.
This is a beautiful example of a Randall Soligen Blade Crutchtip.
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#101947 - 06/02/12 01:20 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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Ronnie: I will be there and need the same for my #14 green tenite....hope to be lucky enough to grab it !
Thanks Ronnie for the info.
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#101948 - 06/02/12 01:48 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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I hope you find it Guido.:-) Good luck.
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#101955 - 06/02/12 10:38 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: kalervo]
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Just another tid-bit; when I ordered my first Randall while in college in 1967, I was told that if interested, the shop would make up my #1 in Solingen immediately, but if I wanted the shop made blade, it would be 4 months. I decided to wait as I didn't see any reason to have a German made blade on a USA make knife. Funny how things turn out.

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#101963 - 06/02/12 01:22 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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Guido you can use either a Heiser or Johnson. At the last Blade Show I attended....a couple of years ago I picked up two Mod. C sheaths in mint condition. They weren't cheap but the next time I find an oldie but goodie without a sheath I'll be sitting fat and happy. I found a 6" JRB this past week for the mod. 1.Tight stitch and all!
The Heiser is gonna be much more difficult but still I've seen them out there before.
Good luck fellows and......I'll see you on the beach!


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#110106 - 04/12/13 02:32 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Hello,

here is my new Mod. 18. I got two in the last week.
This one was ready for photos today. I used paracord
to wrap the handle. I think it looks nice.

The blade is O1, compass installed.

Thanks,
Matthias





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#110108 - 04/12/13 03:33 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Matthias]
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Matthias
Great job on that handle. Very nice setup.
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#110112 - 04/12/13 05:27 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: HALORANGER]
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Yeah,
Perfect wrap job!
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#110114 - 04/12/13 05:59 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Can you wrap mine?

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#110115 - 04/12/13 05:59 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Can you wrap mine?

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#110130 - 04/13/13 05:21 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: pappy19]
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Nicely wrapped up knife, Matthias wink
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#110131 - 04/13/13 05:33 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Thanks,

this was my first wrap.
After the secend trial it was done.

I used this:



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#112801 - 08/19/13 01:05 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Matthias]
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Just noticed that the photo is missing from my post from two years ago, so here's an updated one.


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#112805 - 08/19/13 05:20 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Fantastic - one of my favorites smile
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#116325 - 01/20/14 08:36 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Litch]
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I'm a little late at this post, but I was wondering if anyone had any info on this one.

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#116326 - 01/20/14 10:00 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: buckstix]
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somebody ground that blade down to near scrap!
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#116327 - 01/20/14 11:41 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Leatherman]
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Hello Leatherman,

Thanks for your opinion.

This was a working knife. - A.J. carried it in Vietnam for 2 years. Maybe he just thought the blade entered the ribcage better with this shape?

I was primarily interesting in knowing if anyone has seen other carry knives that had such a "Quick-Draw" sheath.

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#116328 - 01/20/14 11:55 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: buckstix]
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#116329 - 01/20/14 04:34 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Guido_Bitossi]
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I think it is cool as hell and nice to know some of the history of the knife. Theatre customized Randall.
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#116331 - 01/20/14 09:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Steven]
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Hello Steven,

Yes I also like Randalls that show Military use, not just carried, and brought back mint. As you can see by the blade marking, and the uniform patch, A.J. was a K-9 handler, using his dog "Bo" for all sorts of activities, including ratting out tunnels looking for any hiding Charlies, and detecting bobby-traps, and stashed munitions.

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#116332 - 01/21/14 12:27 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: buckstix]
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Nice. I like it. I new a few tunnel rats, all little dudes and for the most part mean as hell. Told me they preferred to puncher the kidneys to slitting throats because of the gurgle. That knife looks like it would work well for that.
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#116335 - 01/21/14 11:11 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: buckstix]
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Buck,

Really like the design of the quick release retention system on the sheath. Looks like it would work well, yet hold the knife securely until needed. Very cool Randall! Thanks for posting it.
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#116336 - 01/21/14 11:45 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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That 18 took a beating and it could take it.
Good to know it served someone well!
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#116338 - 01/21/14 04:05 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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Hello TAH,

Yes, it is very simple, and very, very, fast. You don't even have to think about it. You just reach for the knife handle, and your hand action of grabbing it, opens and releases the knife.

I imagine the guy that designed this sheath, knew exactly what he wanted.

After several days of researching, I spoke with Dick Murray, from Murray Custom Leather Company. He told me this sheath was made by, and hand stitched by, his younder brother Jim Murray, who had his own business in the late 60's into the 90's, but passed away in Dec. 2003, and Jim's company is no longer in business. He said Jim was in the marines for 4 years, and was likely very proude to make this special sheath for a serviceman.

Dick said the snap release is definitely his dad's design. (George Murray)

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#116339 - 01/21/14 04:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: buckstix]
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Buck, thanks for the photos. Shows how much I know - I thought the large flap was for quick thumb release. Knowing how it works makes it even more clever. I wonder if the pointy flap had a tendency to catch on brush and unsnap. Regardless, it's still neat.
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#116344 - 01/22/14 05:47 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Hello TAH,

Although the tab is quite large, it cannon be un-snapped from side-to-side movement - it flexes. The angled sides of the flap, allows it to slide along brush.
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#116345 - 01/22/14 08:48 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: buckstix]
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Originally Posted By: buckstix
...it cannot be un-snapped from side-to-side movement - it flexes.


Hmmm, I wonder if it's a one-way type snap?

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#116348 - 01/22/14 01:12 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Hello TAH,

No special snap. It just likes being pulled from the top. Good idea however, having a directional snap.
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#116353 - 01/22/14 03:53 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: buckstix]
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Those one-way snaps work pretty well. I had Greg Gutcher make me a custom quick-removable sheath for my Model 15. Here are some pictures.


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#116357 - 01/22/14 06:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Holzinger258]
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That's a nice rig!
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#116358 - 01/22/14 06:41 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Holzinger258]
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I see Steve that you have one of those $ 28,0000 Randall's. I'm
envious cool


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#116359 - 01/22/14 06:43 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Michael_Mason]
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$ 28,0000 ? ?
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#116364 - 01/23/14 06:25 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Holzinger258]
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Originally Posted By: Holzinger258
$ 28,0000 ? ?


http://www.knifetalkforums.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=512&Number=3753#Post3753

My apologies for taking this thread off track. It is definitely interesting. My bad !!
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#116415 - 01/26/14 07:45 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Michael_Mason]
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Yes,

So are there any other model 18's with Service use out there?
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#122103 - 11/11/14 07:42 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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hi guys
greeting from italy
this is one of my Randall 18

anyone could tell me the era or year of production??
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#122104 - 11/11/14 08:19 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Andrea Bertelli]
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Just a wild guess but I'd say 1977....
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#122106 - 11/12/14 02:07 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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Dont know Ronnie
12-77 could be the end of service of Mr. Kelley, or the begin. Dont know

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#122109 - 11/12/14 03:51 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Andrea Bertelli]
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I think the knife could date from the mid 70's to the early to mid 80's. That is if the sheath is the original sheath.
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#122111 - 11/12/14 04:19 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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Well it could be. The 26th avn brigade became the actual 126th brigade in early '80.
Really i thought it was a late vietnam era knife.
The sheath appear to be the correct one. It show the signs of the time...

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#122113 - 11/12/14 04:35 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Andrea Bertelli]
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Johnson stopped installing rivets on sheaths in about 1971. You can find sheaths out there that were punched for rivets but they had been cancelled so no rivets were installed. You will just see a little dimple where a rivet was to have been installed. This is a way to date sheaths. I don't think your sheath is a war time sheath. Technically our involvement in V/N ended in 73 but the war wasn't over until April of 75. So it was possible for a mod. 18 like yours to have been carried by a Marine in April of 1975 while evacuating the Embassy but since yours is marked to a specific aviation outfit I don't think it was used during wartime.
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#122114 - 11/12/14 04:53 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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Sound good Ronnie
Thanks for the help

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#122117 - 11/12/14 05:19 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Andrea Bertelli]
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You bet.
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#122196 - 11/16/14 10:21 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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Wow what a beauty!! Nice find

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#124648 - 02/25/15 04:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Cut it out]
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Only one I have ever seen. Obviously an earlier forging probably put together two or three years later.



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#124653 - 02/25/15 09:02 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: crutchtip]
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Joe,

Cool knife! Any SS blade is desirable, so I can understand your excitement on this one. Not to take away from your post, but it seems that very few of these older 18s, specifically the ones that appear to have been used in service or otherwise, have wrapped handles. Do you think most servicemen wrapped the handle, but the wrap has been removed over time? Have you seen many 18s with wrapped handles? Functionally, a wrapped handle makes the most sense. It provides a better grip, insulation for the hand in cold weather and of course, storage for extra line or cordage.
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#124655 - 02/25/15 10:42 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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I would say electrical tape seemed to be used on occasion early on as a handle wrap. There are so few from the early period that you just don't see enough of them to really claim anything was used with regularity. Most of the very early ones are just straight handles with nothing on them.

I believe as the model became more popular during the Viet Nam war you began to see different types of wrapping material used and more frequently. I saw one once that had a bicycle handle bar grip on it. Basically an oversized crutch-tip. Actually worked pretty well as a grip but was a pain to get off the tube.
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#124724 - 02/28/15 09:25 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: crutchtip]
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Joe,

Another question - the three early 18s on page 202 in Gaddis have very small sawteeth - noticeably different than today's sawteeth. On the early 18s that you have seen, are sawteeth typically smaller? Being that the 18 saw was specifically designed to cut aircraft skin, it does seem that small teeth would be more effective on aluminum - closer to a hacksaw. Do you feel today's larger teeth would perform as well on aluminum? It seems the larger teeth might not cut as smoothly and get hung up.
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#124727 - 03/01/15 08:12 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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tom:

IMO, there are three sizes of teeth, fine, medium, and large. I know the size of the teeth has been attributed to the wear on the wheel used to make them. Less wear small teeth, more wear large teeth. I don't think that is 100% accurate, and this is why - According to Pete Hamilton, you could request "small teeth" on your knife in the past.

Note: it also seems that short bladed knives most often had smaller sized teeth with larger teeth reserved for larger blades. Not really enough real estate for large teeth on a short blade. Not saying you won't find one, but medium teeth would be more common of that vintage. Newer pieces seem to lean towards larger teeth.

Most of the early teeth on 18's (and 14's, 15's) seem to be of the fine to medium (standard) size. As the 60's wore on, the variation in size seems to be all over the place, with larger teeth becoming more common. I believe this is partly due to the time required to grind the teeth. More teeth, more time.

Years ago I would measure the TIP (teeth per inch) on various blades. I kept track of quite a few pieces for what reason I don't know, but eventually lost interest. Don't know where the paper record is now.

On the subject of small teeth being an "option", I recall most if not every model 1 with teeth being in the small to fine category, which for all practical purposes holds true to this day. So is grinding wheel size the only factor determining teeth size? It doesn't appear that is definitively the case, at least not in the 60's.
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#124734 - 03/01/15 12:59 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: crutchtip]
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Thanks Joe!
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#124735 - 03/01/15 01:22 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Here's an impressive video showing an 18 chopping a board. I don't chop with my knives, but it's nice to know the 18 can take it. Joe, notice the small teeth on this newer model.

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#124740 - 03/01/15 06:41 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Teeth size?

Maybe somebody from the shop could chime in here....

But one thing I have been told in the past is that the size of the teeth depended in large part on the amount of wear on the wheel over time, with smaller teeth being possible when the wheel is newer, and larger teeth being produced as the wheel wears down. True or not...

It would also seem likely that the spacing and therefore the depth of the grind on the teeth are likely influenced by both (a) the size of the blade itself, and (b) the work style of whoever is grinding them into the blade.

As far as anyone has ever said to me, there is no "shop standard" for the number of teeth-per-inch or the depth of cut.

The only two things that probably matter are (1) that the teeth are not outrageously large or small for the particular blade--aesthetics and maybe functionality, and (2) the teeth on a particular knife are consistent in depth and spacing.

Given all the variables, I suspect that the style of the teeth on a given knife depends on who ground them, with what wheel, and when they did it. That seems to go with "hand made"--and, yes, at least in the days of Steve Johnson in the 14 Room they were hand-ground. I suspect they still are, although some would think that a milling jig might be set up to do the chore.*

Larry

*Which brings me to a side story. Back in the '80's I had a friend in the shop where I worked grind saw teeth into the cutting edge of one of the two blades on a Case knife that I thought I would use when deer hunting. I never used it and eventually took it to a show and put it on the table for sale. The buyer never asked me about the teeth, plunked down his money, and as he was walking away I heard his friend tell him, "Yes, they did make a few like this and you were lucky to pick this one up!"
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#124742 - 03/01/15 07:07 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: LarryWW1246]
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From the shop, Larry is dead on...although we purposely put smaller teeth into smaller blades, (the Cutler just keeps the wheel sharp), and a little larger on the larger blades. There is NO set amount on any particular blades and are all done by hand, no jigs or patterns....

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#124747 - 03/01/15 09:27 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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As for aesthetics, I have seen some that weren't too pleasing. Some had mongo size teeth that just didn't look right. Again, more teeth, more time.

One thing that has changed from very early on is the teeth originally didn't come to a point but had a bit of a "flat" which is far more durable than the sharp pointed teeth. I have seen a few knives that had the tips broken. I would suggest that although most will never use the teeth on any material (i.e. metal) that would be more inclined to cause damage, it would be prudent if they were still ground with the "flat" at the tip.

scott, didn't one fella do the teeth for like forever?
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#124748 - 03/01/15 09:50 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: crutchtip]
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Joe,
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#124749 - 03/01/15 10:55 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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This is what I am referring to as a "flat" tip:


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#132696 - 10/22/15 06:54 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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A couple of Vietnam era Model 18-5.5" Orlando fighters!


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#132698 - 10/22/15 07:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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A lot of nice 18's here! This is my favorite Randall model of them all.

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#132699 - 10/22/15 08:28 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: raymond]
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Here's a transition 18 with the long handle. Prepunched JRB, separate S and white stone.


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#132700 - 10/22/15 08:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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And another from about the same era. Shorter handle with grey stone and the another prepunched JRB. Gold paracord on this one also. I believe (haven't looked in a while) that this one has the long threaded buttcap also.


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#132739 - 10/23/15 01:58 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Excellent 18's!! smile
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#132769 - 10/24/15 02:26 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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#134810 - 12/06/15 01:46 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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Traded into a new 18 with a 7.5 ss blade. I was wondering about the sheath, but the gentleman said it was one of the first new style caps with the sheath...I traded for the set up and not the story. If it is correct, cool. But I use my stuff out in the woods.



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#142901 - 06/01/16 08:26 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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#143002 - 06/06/16 01:12 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Attila Mezzini]
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This thread really has opened my eyes up to the Model 18. Its one I dismissed before but not so much after reading through this.

One question. How is the handle affixed to the blade?

Thanks,

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#143004 - 06/06/16 01:36 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: FLGearguy]
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Here you go... smile

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#143006 - 06/06/16 01:48 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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My latest Model 18. This one has a tang that extends 2 1/2 inches into the handle. I like the wavy teeth. I am guessing 67-68.


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#143157 - 06/07/16 07:25 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Anyone know of any issues with the Model 18s handle's snapping off?

Thanks,

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#143173 - 06/07/16 08:55 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: FLGearguy]
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#143179 - 06/07/16 10:37 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Easy to see that blade started life as a humpback.
Nice 18.
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#143182 - 06/08/16 12:27 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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Hey FLGearguy, I have used my O1 #18 5.5 to baton through seasoned hardwood, and soft pine as well, just to see if it could really, all I can say is bye bye baton, it gets seriously chewed up by the saw teeth, but the handle and blade are still as strong as before, no play no damage so problem.

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#143184 - 06/08/16 04:39 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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#143213 - 06/08/16 11:35 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: FLGearguy]
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#144035 - 06/25/16 11:10 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: LarryWW1246]
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Here is my #18-5.5 smile
Am I correct to guess it's from the 80ies?

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#144036 - 06/25/16 11:31 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Litch]
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1970's or 1980's. More than likely from late 1970's until around mid 1980's. I just picked up the big brother to it, postmarked shipping (USPS) & a post card from the Randall shop, initialed by Gertrude Landing (Ms. Landing, I always called her) from 1977. Nice knife you have there Peter!
Best, Capt. Chris


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#144040 - 06/25/16 02:09 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Very nice, Peter. I need to add one like that to my collection. I don't have a 5.5". Have three 7.5s in JRBs, and would like to find one like yours. Preferably SS. Love the 18s.
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#144424 - 07/03/16 02:46 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Would love to see more 18's in use pics. This model really interests me. I will have one one day.

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#144440 - 07/03/16 09:10 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Cut it out]
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I'll do my best to get a few "action shots" this weekend for ya. Mine's just an ugly VST 18 5.5"........but I'll see what I can do
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#144458 - 07/04/16 09:53 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JerryG]
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Can't wait!! Thanks

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#145218 - 07/19/16 08:17 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Cut it out]
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My 18 5.5 ss, JRB. Wrapped with nylon cord.


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#145221 - 07/19/16 08:32 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: GHD]
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Nice rig. Good job of wrapping the handle.
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#145225 - 07/19/16 08:59 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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Thanks Ronnie, I've been after one of these for awhile, thought I'd give the wrap a try, turned out pretty good for a first try.

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#145227 - 07/19/16 09:10 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: GHD]
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Here's a very nice 18-5.5" I got just today from the good Captain. It was on his site, and being an 18 guy without a 5.5" version in my collection, I grabbed it. The knife is dead mint and the baby dot sheath is in very nice condition also. The gold colored paracord adds a nice touch, also.


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#145230 - 07/19/16 09:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Very nice, I saw that one on the Capt site, you beat me to it, good get.

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#145232 - 07/19/16 10:03 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: GHD]
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#145234 - 07/19/16 10:17 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Great seeing all the variations of this model. Nice !

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#146700 - 08/05/16 06:26 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: GHD]
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Just in from Mr. Gary Clinton. His words: This is a model 18 with a model 14 blade. My guess is only about 25 of these were made in the 70's and 80's.


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#146702 - 08/05/16 06:34 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Eric
That is really nice but it is a model 32 (18+14) :-)

It looks like it was in the sock drawer, super condition

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#146706 - 08/05/16 07:04 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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Eric if that's the sheath that came with the knife originally then this knife was probably made in the mid to late 80's. It's my understanding that they just didn't make a bunch of these but rather if they broke a tang in the manufacturing process they could then utililize the blade in this manner. At any rate these are some of the coolest blades made by Randall in my opinion. I have owned several.
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#146709 - 08/05/16 07:15 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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#146715 - 08/05/16 09:33 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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Great one TB. That Model 18 with a Model 1 blade is sweet.

Ronnie, That makes perfect sense. Save a blade, use a handle that allows for a small tang. I want a Model 18 with a Model 2 blade next.
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#146716 - 08/05/16 09:33 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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Tattoo Bill is there anything you don't have? You sure have some great knives. oldguy
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#146717 - 08/05/16 10:18 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: oldguy]
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Plenty.......lol
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#146725 - 08/06/16 08:43 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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I was wondering the same thing, Mr Oldguy! Bill just keeps 'em coming. As I've said before, I love this forum because we get to see knives that we otherwise wouldn't see. Plus, we learn about the odd/unusual examples.
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#146727 - 08/06/16 09:12 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Mind if I play along?


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#146728 - 08/06/16 10:53 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: W Polidori]
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Nice uppercut Warren. I'm looking forward to seeing how this slugfest plays out. Super knives guys.

Eric -- Do you know whether RMK made an 18 with a model 2 blade? That would really be an awesome knife.
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#146739 - 08/06/16 01:37 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: JE6245]
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Jim, I have no idea, but I figure the tangs on those blades must of had the occasional break. Eric
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#146794 - 08/07/16 01:40 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Eric, and others--

I bought one like this just before Pete died. Stainless, brass hilt, bowie clip.

Pete dug through records and found that they made some number (my records are on a hard drive that went bad a week ago--the techies may be able to pull out the data--I'm hoping).

It was fewer than the 25 number, I am remembering maybe a dozen more or less, and the ones he found were made for Jack Crider. I think Pete said in about 1987.

He and Bob Gaddis examined mine at the last Blade Show the the two of them attended.

Pete never mentioned anything about a "broken tang" as a reason to make such knives.

We also know that some were made with stainless hilts. I don't know how many (but I wouldn't speculate that this was because of a shortage of brass hilts).

I suspect that these fall into the general category of what some might call oddities, these being non-catalogue items that the shop had to time make whenever they wanted to experiement or a customer asked for something and RMK agreed to do it.

For things like this that were small in number, a devoted collector might think about "cornering the market," but would probably never chase all of them down.

Nice knife. I think the sheath looks fresher than mine.

Larry
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#146809 - 08/07/16 03:02 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: LarryWW1246]
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Bo never threw anything away. Broken tang resulted in a knife like this. That has been written here on this forum before and maybe in the old RKS newsletter.
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#146817 - 08/07/16 04:30 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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To all--

Is the broken tang explanation verified by the shop or one of the RMK authenticators?

If these JRB-sheathed Bowie-clip 18's all came from the same period, it would suggest either 1) somebody asked for them in that time frame, or 2) (going by the broken-tang explanation) they just happened to have a few broken-tang 14's on hand at that time.

I know that Pete did not volunteer it as an explanation in the two or three conversations we had about my knife, including when he and Bob Gaddis examined it.

So...this makes me wonder whether and how often the shop has a broken tang on a 14? And then--what do they do with such knives now?

On the other hand, I haven't bothered to ask, but I suspect you could ask RMK to put a Bowie clip on an 18--maybe they would still do it.

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#146820 - 08/07/16 04:57 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: LarryWW1246]
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Larry, Thanks for the info. I really like the Model 18 handle, so any additional blade types is a bonus. Thanks again, Eric
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#146831 - 08/07/16 06:56 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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I am not saying they never specifically made any 14/18's or 18/14's. I'm just saying that if they broke a tang they didn't waste it....they made one of these. I have no idea who said that or wrote that. It was said. I liked Pete. He was a very nice guy and was always great to be around when I visited the shop. However, and I know I will catch hell for this but Pete was not necessarily always on top of every issue at the shop....my opinion. A good example of that is a thread just posted here regarding "fat stag." I purchased a Mod. 8 at a Gun show in Jackson, MS many years ago now. The knife had an enormous stag handle. So much so that the knife sort of looked awkward. I showed the knife to several of my Randall collector buddies who saw nothing strange about the knife. Spacers and everything perfectly Randall. I sent the knife to Pete and he responded with an explanation that he thought the knife had been rehandled. Other than the size of the stag the knife was a typical Mod. 8. His explanation was that "we don't use stag that big." I disagree. I have seen since that time many knives with "fat stag." I'm not saying Pete is wrong about making these knives. If he said that I'm sure he knew what he was talking about. On the other hand he just didn't remember when explaining the 14/18's or 18/14's to include the broken tang deal.
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#146834 - 08/07/16 07:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: GHD]
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Just bought a 18. What was your process on wrapping the handle? Looking to use para cord but open for suggestions.

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#146869 - 08/08/16 05:43 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Hanks]
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Hey Hank's, good purchase, love mine, I wrapped mine with fishing line, then a bit of duct tape, then paracord.
The cool thing about paracord is you can change the colour of your knife easily. Hunter orange is good, do green and or black is fairly standard but so many options of 550 cord out now that the sky's the limit.
Others wrap theirs with bicycle tubes, or tennis wrap, but for me paracord works, is cheap, and of course is useful.
Enjoy and have fun, great knife.

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#146906 - 08/08/16 07:17 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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The ones that were made in the 80's when I started at RMK had nothing to do with a broken tang other than the commemoratives...

If tangs were "broken" or chopped off too short, we did NOT use them at all...

Ronnie, U are sooooo correct about Pete, if he didn't know the answer... U got one anyways!!
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#146914 - 08/08/16 08:08 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Thanks Scott, I love the Randall made Oddballs of the 70's and 80's.


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#146920 - 08/08/16 08:43 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Originally Posted By: Dirty_Water
The ones that were made in the 80's when I started at RMK had nothing to do with a broken tang other than the commemoratives...

If tangs were "broken" or chopped off too short, we did NOT use them at all...

Ronnie, U are sooooo correct about Pete, if he didn't know the answer... U got one anyways!!


Scott,

So the ones that were made, were they special order? I'm a bit unclear how these came to be. Thanks in advance.
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#146933 - 08/08/16 09:06 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: W Polidori]
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No special orders...we were just screwing around! We still do, but now they end up in the museum!
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#146936 - 08/08/16 09:13 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Originally Posted By: Dirty_Water
No special orders...we were just screwing around! We still do, but now they end up in the museum!


Just hoping you start screwing around a bit more often, LOL
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#146939 - 08/08/16 09:18 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: W Polidori]
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Yes, Warren, but winding up with one of those oddballs would be about as rare as winning the lottery. Still kicking myself for passing up the chance to buy an 18/15.
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#146940 - 08/08/16 09:28 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Got a point there. Rare examples are always something to behold. Gotta have spirit, money and b...s to pull the trigger.
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#146960 - 08/09/16 02:07 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Just repeating what has already been said on this forum or the old newsletter.
Dirty water.
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#146980 - 08/09/16 08:58 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Regarding the Bowie-clip 14/18 that I showed Pete, I found an entry about it.

At the time, Pete was able to find five (5) knives in the records he had that were made for Jack Crider.

Not to say they did not make more than five, but that is all Pete came up with.

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#146981 - 08/09/16 09:08 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: LarryWW1246]
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I'd like to know how many 15/18s were made with a Bowie clip. This is the only one I've seen.


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#148664 - 08/23/16 06:51 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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When did the threaded brass butt-cap come around?

At the Tulsa G&K show the weekend after Easter, I saw a *lot* of M18s with crutch tips.

I always wondered how many of them were threaded inside the handle if spectators were allowed to fondle the knives and remove the black tip.
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#148777 - 08/25/16 05:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Windsor]
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I got my RMK 18-5 1/2 today and put a camo paracord wrap on the handle. I used the recommended technique where you make a loop, wrap toward the closed part of the loop, put the end thru the loop, and pull it tight.

This is my 1st try and I will probably redo it. Some things I learned:
1-Tough to get the wrap started tight.
2-Need to wrap tight and close together.
3-When you get to the end, need to get real close to the end but need leave some room for the cap to screw on wo leaving too much open space.

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#148778 - 08/25/16 05:43 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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Might not be to your satisfaction, but looks pretty damn good too me.
GREAT job smile
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#148779 - 08/25/16 05:48 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Michael_Mason]
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Thanks! I will see how it holds up over time. Hopefully it won't loosen up.
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#148785 - 08/25/16 06:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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The cool thing is it's cheap and easy to redo.
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#148795 - 08/25/16 07:52 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Before you start wrapping break the newness out of the cord and it will wrap tighter.
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#148797 - 08/25/16 08:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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Originally Posted By: Chief
Before you start wrapping break the newness out of the cord and it will wrap tighter.


Txs! I will give that a try.
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#148799 - 08/25/16 08:27 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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Great knife, you will love it, just watch your fingers when cleaning the teeth, they be sharp!

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#148808 - 08/25/16 08:59 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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Great knife, you will love it, just watch your fingers when cleaning the teeth, they be sharp!


I almost got nicked putting on the paracord!
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#148829 - 08/25/16 11:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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Agree with Michael...you did a good job.
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#148838 - 08/26/16 07:48 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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Don't forget to get your handle kit assembled and stowed. There are threads on that also. 18s are so cool.
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#148844 - 08/26/16 08:22 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Originally Posted By: Byrdguy
Don't forget to get your handle kit assembled and stowed. There are threads on that also. 18s are so cool.


I found a Walgreen's pill container that fits in the handle nicely. Now to look at the threads to see what to put in it.


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#148850 - 08/26/16 09:17 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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Originally Posted By: Zogger
I found a Walgreen's pill container that fits in the handle nicely. Now to look at the threads to see what t put in tit.

Tit? Let's keep it clean, buddy. grin

Zog,

I wouldn't waste any space using a pill container. The handle is already waterproof. No reason to double up.

As for selecting survival items, HERE is an old thread that might be helpful. Some of the links might not be active anymore, but it's a good place to start. Does your buttcap have a compass?

My handle is mostly set up with fire making items...

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#148866 - 08/26/16 01:36 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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Great & Beautiful Knife! You are going to so enjoy your new #18, and your paracord wrap looks outstanding too. I've done that at least a couple times and it always felt really good in camp, hikes....using it. This is just another great thing about this specific Randall.....just another good reason to play with (lovingly fondle) it while watching the tube with your lovely wife......trying different handle material, allowing oil from your hands to soften the "racquetball racquet" leather grip (my personal favorite), etc., etc. AND listing, adding to & crossing off your personal survival items using this Forum for info.
ENJOY!!!
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#148867 - 08/26/16 01:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Thanks! I will review the link.
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#148868 - 08/26/16 01:40 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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Great knife, you will love it, just watch your fingers when cleaning the teeth, they be sharp!


I almost got nicked putting on the paracord!


Yeah, it may be worth breaking out the painters tape or (even better) duct tape on the sharp bits.

If the duct tape leaves any goo residue, WD40 will take it off easily enough.
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#148878 - 08/26/16 07:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Windsor]
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Well the tube can be useful when you dump everything out in the rain onto the grass to find the matches...one guy had a tube with morse code on it, may not be useful but was way cool!

Now as for the sheath I found that a leatherman micra, the everlasting brass striker that Tom (TAH) shows and some tinder in a small plastic bag fits into the stone stower bit, (I never use the stone, just out it away somewhere).
Oh and wax the sheath, I use Snowseal but there are many different options, add some extra paracord to it and you are good to go.

In the tube I keep more tinder, a compass (removeable one), matches, safety pins, hooks, sinkers, swivels, needles, theard, fishing line (more line is wrapped around the handle under the paracord) duct tape, match striker...think that's it.

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#148879 - 08/26/16 07:59 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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How many times has anyone had to use the stuff they carry in their 18's? If so why and what did you use?
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#148890 - 08/26/16 09:30 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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out of all the items that I have seen listed in this thread, most are not necessary. the matches, fishing line, etc. You can start a fire without matches and catch fish without a hook and line. however, for a survival knife the idea is to survive. someone posted what I thought would be the items to have. Pain meds, antibiotics and water purifier pills. if you don't have a fire arm, the knife will provide everything else.

just my take


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#148892 - 08/26/16 10:24 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: maxpastor]
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The thing is, you hope you never do have to use them out of a circumstance. I used to to have a friend with a jet boat and we ran the Main Salmon and Snake River almost every weekend for many years back in the late 70's. On 2 occasions we had engine problems and had to spend the night on remote locations. We did have some survival gear in the boat, but I was glad that the last time, I had my Model 18 stuffed with goodies. When ever I fly with some of my bush pilot friends, the 18 is on my belt. Hope I never have to use it, but it comforts me to know it's there.

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#148896 - 08/26/16 10:44 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: pappy19]
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I recommend a small(bout the size of 3-4 matches) tube of Neosporin, surgical needle & thread, Matches, hooks & line.
I recommend planning for your area.
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#148903 - 08/26/16 11:03 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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I have not "had" to use it, but I have practised with it, just so I know that it works and how it works.
Have made a fire, chopped some branches, tied said branches into a basic shelter...and then slept in a tent!

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#148926 - 08/27/16 11:42 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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My recent 18 from the Captian. Can't wait to use it this duck season.


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#148928 - 08/27/16 11:50 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Hanks]
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Nice! Beautiful paracord wrapping! You got it nice and even. Now I will have to redo mine!
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#148930 - 08/27/16 12:03 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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Anyone own or use or have you used the staff attachment?
I would like to have a revue of it from someone who has please.
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#148931 - 08/27/16 12:19 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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Chief, I have the Stainless Steel walking staff. It weighs in at 3 lbs 3oz. Looks really cool with a 18 attached. Useless for my crutch tip 18's. I thought it a must have for my Model 18 collection. But it gets heavy on long hikes. I have a mesquite wood walking staff that is much friendlier. Eric
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#148932 - 08/27/16 12:22 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Hanks]
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I can't get the photo to show??
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#148934 - 08/27/16 12:27 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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I have seen some Model 18's with a skull crusher cap. Anyone know where I can buy such a cap? Thanks!


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#148938 - 08/27/16 01:37 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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#148940 - 08/27/16 02:11 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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Yeah, It's an after market add on. I picked one up any where from @ $60-$75. There are at least 2 different types.
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#148941 - 08/27/16 02:29 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Chief, I have the Stainless Steel walking staff. It weighs in at 3 lbs 3oz. Looks really cool with a 18 attached. Useless for my crutch tip 18's. I thought it a must have for my Model 18 collection. But it gets heavy on long hikes. I have a mesquite wood walking staff that is much friendlier. Eric


Thanks Eric, the weight isn't my big worry. More interested in how it balances with the knife on it.
Thought about getting one made out of aircraft aluminum.
What's the going rate for one? Anyone know?
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#148942 - 08/27/16 02:38 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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Steve Peters has one on his Ebay site, Chief. Aluminum.
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#148943 - 08/27/16 02:42 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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Originally Posted By: Chief
Originally Posted By: Eric
Chief, I have the Stainless Steel walking staff. It weighs in at 3 lbs 3oz. Looks really cool with a 18 attached. Useless for my crutch tip 18's. I thought it a must have for my Model 18 collection. But it gets heavy on long hikes. I have a mesquite wood walking staff that is much friendlier. Eric


Thanks Eric, the weight isn't my big worry. More interested in how it balances with the knife on it.
Thought about getting one made out of aircraft aluminum.
What's the going rate for one? Anyone know?


Aluminum may not be a great choice with the stainless tube, corrosion could be a problem on aluminum. As long as your considering having one made 6Al-4V titanium much better IMO. It would cost more but you'd have one no one else has.
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#148944 - 08/27/16 02:47 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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I have the one that Steve Peter's sells, has compass on the outside and temp on the underside. I think it was around $100.

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#148945 - 08/27/16 02:50 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: pappy19]
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Anyone know who made them?
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#148947 - 08/27/16 03:05 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: tunefink]
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Steve Peters has one on his Ebay site, Chief. Aluminum.


Only found stainless?
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#148949 - 08/27/16 03:10 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: W Polidori]
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Chief, I bought mine about 12 years ago and it ran $250. All stainless with brass fittings. Mine came with the skull crusher cap with compass inside.
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#148950 - 08/27/16 03:19 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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One more time on the pic.



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#148952 - 08/27/16 03:30 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Hanks]
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I had a friend of mine who owns a tool and die machine shop make me one out of titanium. But it does not have a skull crusher but it has a built in wrist thong eye on it. It is a one piece solid machined cap. Oldguy
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#148953 - 08/27/16 03:32 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: oldguy]
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If I can ask what did that run ya?
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#148954 - 08/27/16 03:57 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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Only found stainless?


Aluminum Staff Link
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#148956 - 08/27/16 04:07 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: tunefink]
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#148961 - 08/27/16 04:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Hanks]
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Your pics are "thousands" of pixels too large. I just tried sending it to my computer and, after 5 minutes of "watching the wheel spin", I gave up.
Sorry, Capt. Chris


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#148962 - 08/27/16 04:37 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Capt: how do I change it? on the camera or can a change it on the computer???
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#148963 - 08/27/16 05:27 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: maxpastor]
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Taking the photos with? If it's a friggin' phone, I have no idea. Once mine are downloaded to the computer I use Microsoft Office Picture Manager and "re-size" to 300kb.
Best, Capt. Chris


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#148965 - 08/27/16 05:31 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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The smart phones have an app that reduces the picsal and I use it on my cell before I attach a picture to a web site. It's free.

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#148967 - 08/27/16 05:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Your pics are "thousands" of pixels too large. I just tried sending it to my computer and, after 5 minutes of "watching the wheel spin", I gave up.
Sorry, Capt. Chris


Hey Capt: what pictures are you talking about. ???? and who's post???
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#148999 - 08/28/16 01:09 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: maxpastor]
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On the wrapping paper that came with my 18-5 1/2 in had "WB". What does that mean? Thanks!


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#149004 - 08/28/16 01:37 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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(edit to add) i.e. the original destination for that knife.


Edited by Windsor (08/28/16 01:39 PM)
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#149005 - 08/28/16 01:38 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Windsor]
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If you order direct from the shop, they will scrawl something resembling your name on the wax paper.
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#149006 - 08/28/16 01:41 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Windsor]
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Originally Posted By: Windsor
Wayne Buxton

(edit to add) i.e. the original destination for that knife.


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#149008 - 08/28/16 02:05 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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If I had not spotted your WTB thread, I probably wouldn't have picked up on that so quickly. wink
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#149019 - 08/28/16 04:01 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Windsor]
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If I had not spotted your WTB thread, I probably wouldn't have picked up on that so quickly. wink


You were quicker than I was, and I am the one who bought it! crazy
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#149023 - 08/28/16 05:26 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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Rob... Scrawl?!? LOL
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#149024 - 08/28/16 05:41 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Scrawl... SMH...
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#149025 - 08/28/16 05:53 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: RamKingJC]
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#149034 - 08/28/16 07:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Originally Posted By: Dirty_Water
Scrawl?

Calligraphy
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#149045 - 08/28/16 09:21 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Holzinger258]
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You can tell it wasn't written by Scott.......wasn't in crayon!!! grin
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#149067 - 08/29/16 07:20 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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Actually, it "was" written by Scott. The shop took his crayons away. He was eating them!
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#149070 - 08/29/16 09:16 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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Originally Posted By: Shelley
Now as for the sheath I found that a leatherman micra, the everlasting brass striker that Tom (TAH) shows and some tinder in a small plastic bag fits into the stone stower bit, (I never use the stone, just out it away somewhere).


I agree, Shelley. That stone pouch can be used for other items. Here is my Model 5 Survival Knife.




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#149074 - 08/29/16 10:08 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Me a few years younger...


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#149087 - 08/29/16 03:46 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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I thought this was Scott a few years younger.


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#149094 - 08/29/16 04:44 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Originally Posted By: Dirty_Water
Rob... Scrawl?!? LOL


Nothing warms the heart like opening a box from Florida and seeing your name ... "scrawled" on crumpled up wax paper.

Using fancy 99-cents-per-letter writing wouldn't make my heart any warmer. laugh
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#149100 - 08/29/16 07:32 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Windsor]
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#149576 - 09/07/16 08:02 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: LarryWW1246]
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For those who would like to know--

I just received my retrieved data back from the outfit that was recovering it from a failed hard drive....

I found the copy of my records about Pete Hamilton's research on the Bowie-clip Model 18 handle knife that I have. Here is the text of the note that I made for my records:

"Saturday, June 4, 2005, conversation with Pete Hamilton at the Blade Show in Atlanta:

1. Pete examined this knife and confirmed that it is a Randall knife, taking into account the marking, the welding, the tang and the way it was filled with what he called fiberglass inside the tubular stainless steel handle.
2. Pete estimated the knife was made in the 1983 to 1984 period at about the time they started offering the knurling on the stainless steel handle.
3. He said he had gone back through his shop records and located 5 Model 14’s that had been made with the Model 18 handle. He said that if more were made, that he was sure the total count would have been less than 10 Model 14’s would have been fitted with the Model 18 handle. The ones he saw in the records were made for Jack Crider."

Hope that helps anyone who happens to come across one of these.

Larry


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#149591 - 09/07/16 08:52 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: LarryWW1246]
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Great information Larry! I have a Model 18 with a Model 1 blade that's one of those oddities.
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#149596 - 09/07/16 09:43 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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Thanks Larry for saving that information. It helps to appreciate the items more. I now have 3 unique Model 14's. The Aluminum handled example was done by Jim Behring, the Black Micarta was done by James Behring and the other is an RMK Model 14 with 18 style handle.


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#149609 - 09/08/16 11:40 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: LarryWW1246]
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Originally Posted By: LarryWW1246
I found the copy of my records about Pete Hamilton's research on the Bowie-clip Model 18 handle knife that I have.


Larry,

Thanks for the information. Does your #14/18 have an actual "Bowie-clip" or is it a standard #14 straight clip? Would love to see a photo if possible.
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#149612 - 09/08/16 04:43 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Mine is a Bowie clip. My photos were messed up with the hard drive crash, so I don't have anything handy to post here and would have to dig deep to find the knife to do more photos.

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#149618 - 09/08/16 07:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: LarryWW1246]
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Well, if you ever get bored, I'd love to see a photo. Your 14/18 is the only other Bowie clip that I have heard of besides my 15/18, which you can see on page 32 in this thread.
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#155640 - 01/12/17 06:26 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Hi, just a note on handles wrapped with fishing line.
Wrapped mine in 1981 with 25 pound line. Then insulating tape over that (to stop it unwrapping. Then Hootchy cord over that.(finer grade Paracord) Upon removing all recently, the fishing line was dysfunctional due to it retaining the form of handle. (think telephone cord). Just something to consider if you HAVE to use it in real life. Split shot sinkers to apply on line would "perhaps" enable it to be used for fishing.
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#155642 - 01/12/17 06:55 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: needfull things]
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Originally Posted By: needfull things
Hi, just a note on handles wrapped with fishing line.
Wrapped mine in 1981 with 25 pound line. Then insulating tape over that (to stop it unwrapping. Then Hootchy cord over that.(finer grade Paracord) Upon removing all recently, the fishing line was dysfunctional due to it retaining the form of handle. (think telephone cord). Just something to consider if you HAVE to use it in real life. Split shot sinkers to apply on line would "perhaps" enable it to be used for fishing.
Cheers, Wayne


Good advice. Wonder if the modern braided "limp" line would hold straight?
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#155644 - 01/12/17 07:54 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: BladesNBarrels]
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#155645 - 01/12/17 07:55 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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You can wet your line and pull it straight in a jam.
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#155655 - 01/13/17 10:10 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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I know somebody will be along directly to steer Model 18 dress up to a survival knife thread somewhere else due to cutting in on eye candy rather than folk actually trying to use the things, so I will post of a photo of the rarest of rare, the Wham O Superballtip version.

Truthfully, the newer shorties chop and hack much better thanks to all the extra brass mass also acting as counterweight to speed up snap and dampen rebound. The larger diameter heavier latter cap also provides great rear grip security when doing said chopping, and yielding larger knife type power.

As for goodies, whole point original was meds/matches/wrap, for surviving a few days until rescued, hypothermia and dehydration the true killers, knife insurance in case owner had nothing left but what was on belt. Bank fishin' and trap settin' while waiting sounds quite pleasurable, though. Personally, i would pass on the fishing/trapping gear and make sure I had several square feet of plastic for a solar still and water to drink.






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#155660 - 01/13/17 02:38 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Lofty]
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This is obviously a new new knife, wanted to see how current knives compare to my older ones with ribbed cap, JRB, etc.

Pleasantly surprised, very stout but useful blade. Whittles and carves suprisingly well, teeth on large side probably would work better without clogging on wood for notching, probably would hang up on originally envisioned Shawnee chopper skin.

Value added brass, original thought to be a detriment, turns out to have above mentioned positive aspects, and knife chops far better with counterweight cap than it does without.

Strength goes (or should, considering info in previous posts) without saying, and a good choice for that one knife in the woods crowd.

Personally I prefer the only slightly larger Buxton Fighter package for that one knife, but would be quite happy with the shorty 18.




To me, it seems a certain idea, perfected, in very logical progression.....

 "Their knife should be strong enough to pry open a stuck canopy so that the pilot could exit rapidly from the aircraft after a sudden and unscheduled landing. If that didn't work, it then had to be capable of smashing Plexiglass or chopping and cutting through the aluminum aircraft skin. After the pilot was out, this prybar had to become his all-around survival knife. And it could be no more than 10 inches in overall length!.......
...Because an airman would probably be wearing thick gloves while prying, smashing, or cutting with this knife, it needed a hilt and handle adapted for such use. The double-guard hilt was made larger than the Model Number 1 Fighter's, so that a gloved hand wouldn't have any chance of slipping up onto the sharp edge...."







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#155687 - 01/14/17 03:51 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Lofty]
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Good points, whilst I have fishing line (and hooks, sinkers etc) inside mine I suspect the line would get used in shelter building if I use up all the paracord that is wrapped around the handle.

It can chop well, although I knew a sas guy who traded his 5.5 for the 7.5 to be better at chopping, I opted for the 5.5 and am happy with it.

The only downside to the knife for the bushy crowd is that when battoning the baton gets chopped to pieces by the sawteeth.

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#155793 - 01/17/17 11:06 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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In a military survival situation, nobody is going to be beating on anything and making all that racket, and instead would be leaning on knife while bending whatever undergrowth for shelter or bedding.

The chopping ability was suprising, I hate to say nearly as good as my older 7.5s, as they are the best out of all Randalls tried, and the best out of all similar size knives ever tried. But, I will say the chopping ability of the newer smaller knife, with the extra brass, sure seemed familiar. The 7.5s are as handy as a gladius, while the 5.5 seems more a boy scout knife in handiness. My 7.5s are now retired.


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#156053 - 01/27/17 04:43 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Lofty]
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The #18-5 1/2 can be even handier, for grab and go, or just go, stuffed under belt or even IWB under a shirt (but no comfort award winner with that cap). The less weight lugged to car daily, the better.



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#156266 - 02/01/17 08:50 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Lofty]
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Who has had a SS walking stick that did more than sit in the corner of the room?
Trying to decide on aluminum or SS.
any advice or pros & cons would be welcome.
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#156271 - 02/01/17 09:33 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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I find my SS can get heavy on long hikes. I would think an Aluminum example would fix that issue. I do like the indestructible feeling of the SS, so I put up with the weight.
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#156274 - 02/01/17 10:19 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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Originally Posted By: Chief
Who has had a SS walking stick that did more than sit in the corner of the room?
Trying to decide on aluminum or SS.
any advice or pros & cons would be welcome.


Want something light? Get someone to make you a titanium stick. One up carbon fiber. Both high strength to weight ratio materials.
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#156275 - 02/01/17 10:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: W Polidori]
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would have to have one to make one.....no specs,
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#156276 - 02/01/17 11:19 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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That would be a prototype. You're still payin' for the first one.
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#156281 - 02/02/17 12:30 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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Chief,

Definitely aluminum; SS is heavy!

Someone had one in a Cerakote knife & stick that looked cool.

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#156282 - 02/02/17 12:58 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: GCTom41]
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I have the Coyote Cerakote SS Staff here.
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#156283 - 02/02/17 01:16 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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This one.


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#156284 - 02/02/17 01:25 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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That's it Bill-Awesome set-up and finish!

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#156285 - 02/02/17 01:26 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: GCTom41]
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The knives sell immediately! Still have a staff or two in the safes.
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#156302 - 02/02/17 06:58 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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How long does it take to get them done?
Sexy color.
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#156305 - 02/02/17 07:31 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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My Cerakote Tech is 1 of only 2 certified in Florida, but I usually get a pretty quick turnaround. The last one that I dropped off, (with a matching Model 18-7.5) was ready in 2 days!

PS..... This one is done in Coyote (my personal favorite color) but they can be done in 100's of different colors/designs. Here is a Solingen "KIT" knife that I had done in "Digital Camo".


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#156308 - 02/02/17 07:43 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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Another example of the new technology in Cerakoting.


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#156309 - 02/02/17 07:58 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Tattoo Bill]
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Now that's cool......where's yours lol?
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#157632 - 03/06/17 11:56 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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I'd appreciate info about this #18. When was it made do you think?
Thanks! Peter







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#157635 - 03/06/17 12:12 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Peterson]
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The tight-stitched Johnson sheath is screaming early-mid 1980's...as is the lined butt cap. Problem is: I cannot remember when the shop started offering the knurled handle??
Nice knife, Capt. Chris
PS: Floyd Byrd was doing all of the shop's outsourcing at this time period. I remember the knurling started early enough (Pretty sure) to be in line with my dates...Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
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#157672 - 03/06/17 08:56 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
The tight-stitched Johnson sheath is screaming early-mid 1980's...as is the lined butt cap. Problem is: I cannot remember when the shop started offering the knurled handle??
Nice knife, Capt. Chris
PS: Floyd Byrd was doing all of the shop's outsourcing at this time period. I remember the knurling started early enough (Pretty sure) to be in line with my dates...Hope this helps, Capt. Chris


My reference guide states the shop offered the Knurled handle as an option in 1984.
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#157680 - 03/07/17 12:21 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: maxpastor]
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Something happened in the process of knurling the handle. About a third of the way up the knurling Floyd must have had some kind of malfunction. He seems to have changed a cutting blade or something.
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#157684 - 03/07/17 08:20 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: maxpastor]
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Max,
Like many things Randall, some things were done (and often) before they appeared in the catalog. Most certainly this knife could have been made in 1984 but a knurled handle and lined butt cap could have been made before that time. Many, many, many of these knife handle/butt cap combos would not interchange, back in the day. I have no idea exactly "why" but threaded butt caps would often burr-up and strip when they were tried on another handle. I guess the cutting tools would wear, etc. This doesn't seem to be the case nowadays.
I only mention this because many RMKs fall victim to "1st in- last out" when it comes to things like sheaths and compasses...not so much with these butt caps during this time period.
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#157711 - 03/07/17 05:00 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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thanks Capt.

I'll add that info to my Randall info notes:

Was it possible for a customer to bring his or her knife back to the shop and have options added back in the day? Like you say anything could have happened during R&D days.
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#157716 - 03/07/17 06:07 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: maxpastor]
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Knurling could not...and cannot...be added. I was at the shop today and Scott and I jawed a bit about #18's. We generally agreed about dates for knurled handle. Neither of us remember 1970 vintage with knurling but both agree early 80's.
As for this example? The blade stamp looks newer than early 1980's. A check of the inside of the handle will show some valuable insight as to the year. If the threads for the tube start immediately at the throat...the knife is earlier. If there is a recess (space) on the tube, prior to the start of the threads it is later.
Lined caps were left in stock and will fit some of the newer tubes as the space allows for some "jiggle room" before the threads engaged. As for the tight-stitched JRB sheath? Could be somebody trying to make a newer knife look old (er)...
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#157728 - 03/07/17 10:08 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Cap,

Maybe not from the shop "but" knuring could be added by a specialty machine shop. It would require a custom fit mandrel and tooling. It wouldn't be economically practical but it can be done.
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#157735 - 03/07/17 11:11 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: W Polidori]
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The "lines" on this brass end cap represent another form of knurling known simply as "straight knurling", if my memories of cold metalworking industrial arts classes are correct.
Engine lathe work done at slow speed.
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#157742 - 03/08/17 06:15 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: W Polidori]
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I can post detailed photos of the knife if that would help, the inside of the handle for example. What do you need?

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#160618 - 05/23/17 04:47 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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I have found this picture on internet. It seems to be the original drawing that captain Ingraham sent to explain his design of the survival knife he proposed. I don't know if it has already been in the forum (I didn't found it) and don't know if it must be placed here. 'thought it was the best place. I'm not sure if it is the true original or a fake. Any ideas?


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#160831 - 05/29/17 08:04 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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Arrived today!!!


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#160832 - 05/29/17 08:33 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Attila Mezzini]
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#160941 - 06/01/17 07:58 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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I guess those of us that couldn't make it to Atlanta need something to click on so I'll throw up a couple of photos to give us something to do.


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#160942 - 06/01/17 08:28 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Boomer51]
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I like the skull crusher end cap!
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#160943 - 06/01/17 09:05 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Zogger]
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Good job on the wrap!
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#160945 - 06/01/17 09:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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Thanks Chief.
Zog, if you're looking for one shoot me a PM and I'll point you to where I got it. It's pretty well made and has the compass mounted in it.
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#160951 - 06/02/17 08:31 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Beautiful knives. I like the Stag Model 2, here is an all stainless mini #18.


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#161937 - 06/30/17 02:16 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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7.5" Model 18 all Stainless. Not sure how many or even why RMK made this version but I wish everyone could have one like this.


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#161941 - 06/30/17 04:12 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Does look mean Eric, but I kind of like the dichotomy of my brass and steel 18...

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#161949 - 06/30/17 06:01 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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Shelley, Definitely no contrast, just Stainless. No verdigris that Brass brings with the leathers. I tried to chrome everything I could on my brand new 1993 Softail. Came close before I had to sell it. So this knife has a 'je ne sais quoi' for me.
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#161951 - 06/30/17 06:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Only one I've ever seen Eric. Underwater survival knife. Oops did I just say under water knife?
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#161958 - 06/30/17 09:58 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: W Polidori]
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I like my brass but I'll admit that's pretty neat looking, Eric. I believe the newsletter showed Valerie getting one also for her retirement gift from the shop.
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#161961 - 06/30/17 10:08 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Boomer51]
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I haven't received the latest news letter yet. I am sure it's in the mail. I got mine way late last time too. No worries, I have learned to wait with everything Randall.
I am sure Valerie was thrilled.


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#161993 - 07/02/17 10:38 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Originally Posted By: Eric
7.5" Model 18 all Stainless. Not sure how many or even why RMK made this version but I wish everyone could have one like this.


Yeah me too! I know we call it furniture on knives, but to me its more like tires & rims on a car.
All one color lets me appreciate this knife more. No color contrast to get your attention away from the "lines" of this beauty!

So just how many were made? Be a great user. I'm starting to get this style hilt on more knives from the shop.
I was surprised at how many knives it's available on.

Great knife!
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#162021 - 07/03/17 07:57 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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Thanks Chief, it is GTR's best in my opinion. I only say that because to me this knife is perfection. Now I have to find a 5.5". Oh Boy....

I am guessing this example was made in 1970's
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#162029 - 07/03/17 01:39 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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All Stainless Steel construction during the 1980's, with an estimate of less than 100 being produced.


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#162032 - 07/03/17 02:01 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Eric,
Couple of things: 1st, call me as I have RMK "stuff" for you!
2nd: 1990's, as well as 1980's showed these all-stainless Model #18's being offered, although on a very limited basis. I had, at one time, "6" examples in my collection...with no 2 the same! I also had one stolen and GTR agreed (after I showed him the police report to make me one in the late 1990's. Floyd Byrd supplied the butt caps for all of these knives, including the stainless #18, Minis and even made some stainless steel "skull-crusher" butt caps for the #18. His later butt caps (1990's vintage) featured "knurled" stainless steel caps, verses the lined cap shown on yours. All were in JRB Model "C" sheaths, to the best of my knowledge, although the later ones were sewn on Johnny's machine as was evident by the wider stitching.
Hope this helps and yours is a perfect example! Well done!
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#162046 - 07/03/17 05:36 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Captain Chris Stanaback]
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Hello, Capt. Chris, Appreciate your information on this 18....1980's works for me. I am on Lake Charlevoix now, I will send you an email tomorrow for total. Thanks again
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#162167 - 07/05/17 07:19 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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TB, I should have known you already had one(5.5). Love it. I need to find one now. Thanks for posting.

Warren, I had never seen one in person either until this one came up for sale. I could not pass on it.
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#162174 - 07/05/17 09:18 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Glad you didn't Eric. Good luck finding the 5.5 to match.
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#162837 - 07/21/17 06:16 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: W Polidori]
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Adding pictures of both a Brass and Stainless #18's.


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#163124 - 08/01/17 12:27 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: vklough46]
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found one with the saw teeth No saw teeth grind, 5 1/2" blade, has Knurl handle and skull crusher cap with compass.


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#163138 - 08/01/17 06:27 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: maxpastor]
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That photo looks a little off on the top blade...

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#163865 - 08/22/17 06:42 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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#18's


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#163866 - 08/22/17 06:53 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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nice Model 18's. I have never seen a 18 with the fine sawteeth like the ones on the Crutch Tip
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#163874 - 08/23/17 07:28 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ironworker]
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Note that you could order "fine teeth" back in the day
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#163875 - 08/23/17 07:41 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: crutchtip]
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This one also has the epoxy filling half the handle. The matches just do fit inside.


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#163876 - 08/23/17 08:13 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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I might have posted this one before. Separate S, white stone.


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#163877 - 08/23/17 08:15 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Thanks for the information Joe. Learned something new.
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#163879 - 08/23/17 08:31 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ironworker]
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Great looking #18s, gentlemen.
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#163895 - 08/23/17 05:15 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Originally Posted By: Byrdguy
I might have posted this one before. Separate S, white stone.

And punched for rivets.
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#163896 - 08/23/17 07:38 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Ronnie]
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A pair of Stainless 18's


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#163897 - 08/23/17 10:09 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Eric, stainless from front to back?
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#163902 - 08/24/17 06:22 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Buck Buchanan]
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Buck, yes, stainless from stem to stern.
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#163904 - 08/24/17 07:53 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Dang, and he has two of them!
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#163939 - 08/24/17 11:51 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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Eric, I just want to ask, and I'm not being nasty, just curious, do you actually use any of the knifes you have, because you seem to have a lot?

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#163940 - 08/25/17 04:04 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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Shelley, I have a couple of Randall users, all purchased via RMK Dealers (#10-3"and a #4 6"). I use all of my re-handled Randall's. I do not use any Randall that I purchase from eBay or private individuals online. I have a lot of non-RMK users, mostly Spyderco's and Al Mar's. My latest user is a Spyderco Para Military 3 lock-back.


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#163945 - 08/25/17 08:20 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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I would guess that most Randalls purchased never get used.
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#163968 - 08/25/17 04:21 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Byrdguy]
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I only have three, I keep looking but can't decide and also, at the moment, can't justify another, waiting for a momentous occasion...like finally doing a scuba course so I can justify a #16...a couple of times in the last couple of decades I went trough all my knives and if they were not getting used I did not keep them.

Down to a half dozen, #10-3 edc, #10-7 for carving roasts, #18-5.5 tramping/hunting, a big Nepalese khukuri, basically it gets used like an axe or a machete, a 'Woodlore' style blade that I handled myself because I wanted to see what all the fuss with a scandi blade was all about, and a Hinderer designed zero tolerance flipper, mainly I wanted to try a flipper.

All get use, I imaging if I had the space or spare income I could get into collecting stuff, not sure if it would be knives or something else, I'm not sure I have the right personality for collecting, if I have something I tend to have it because I want to use it.
Different horses for courses I guess!

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#163976 - 08/25/17 08:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shelley]
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The one I have that could be a user, I hope I never have to use it, it's my #4-4 1/2 fighter.

I have 3 sheaths for it, and it has been in all of them. No plans to sell this one except in my estate sale.

(If this post should not be in this thread, Mods just move it.)










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#176713 - 12/11/18 03:59 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Robert Frey]
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My new 18-7.5 - awesome!
















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#176716 - 12/11/18 08:17 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: AR-Trvlr]
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Beautiful finish on the blade and a nice crisp stamp. Definitely too pretty to use. grin
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#176722 - 12/11/18 10:02 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Beautiful!!
USE IT!!!

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#176724 - 12/11/18 11:33 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: thevalueman]
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Congrats! Don't use it, to pretty indeed LOL
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#176736 - 12/11/18 04:55 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Sphinx3000]
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Congrats! Beautiful!
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#176742 - 12/11/18 06:24 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: desert.snake]
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My favorite Randall ! I bought one in August from Spyderco (authorized dealer) like yours, but with a smooth handle. Congratulations !

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#176749 - 12/11/18 08:28 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Kirko]
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Congrats on a great looking knife - the 18 to me is the tank of the RMK lineup.
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#176842 - 12/16/18 03:23 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Boomer51]
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18-7.5, Survival, 01 by Jedi, auf Flickr

18-7.5, Survival, 03 by Jedi, auf Flickr

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#176845 - 12/16/18 05:16 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: James Longstreet]
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#176985 - 12/21/18 09:18 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Holzinger258]
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Super nice, James - love the model 18! And your photography smile
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#176986 - 12/21/18 09:48 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Litch]
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Looks great!


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#177010 - 12/22/18 04:38 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Sphinx3000]
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Thanks guys!

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#177223 - 01/01/19 10:42 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: James Longstreet]
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#177226 - 01/02/19 12:27 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: The Bushman]
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Exciting times, for sure.

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#177449 - 01/14/19 01:46 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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First time poster here and new to RMK collecting. I like little brother-big brother pics!






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#177453 - 01/14/19 09:43 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: WhatWouldYouSay]
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Very nice ! I'll say once more all time favorite Randall !

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#177464 - 01/15/19 08:38 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: WhatWouldYouSay]
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Nice pair!

The Model 18 was my very first Randall!

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#178361 - 02/27/19 04:25 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TonyLaPetri]
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My latest


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#178362 - 02/27/19 04:32 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: ROBERT MCINTOSH]
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Another #18


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#178432 - 02/28/19 03:32 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: ROBERT MCINTOSH]
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My favorite Randall ! Nice !

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#178803 - 03/08/19 04:51 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Kirko]
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My #18 collection is growing


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#178804 - 03/08/19 05:07 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: ROBERT MCINTOSH]
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Nice, big teeth.
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#178805 - 03/08/19 05:09 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: W Polidori]
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Thanks. I did not notice that
Did not even know there are different size teeth

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#178808 - 03/08/19 07:13 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: ROBERT MCINTOSH]
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Back in the day you could specify teeth size if you ordered a knife. some knives have smaller teeth as a rule, like a model 1. 14's, 15's, and 18's often varied in size, but prolly in the late 60's to early 70's larger teeth seemed to be the norm. Less work to do larger teeth.
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#178809 - 03/08/19 08:12 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: crutchtip]
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I've always wondered if small teeth or large teeth would perform better on aircraft aluminum. Seems like small teeth wouldn't hang up as much - like the small teeth on a hacksaw.
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#178814 - 03/08/19 11:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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Well thanks for the info people

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#181131 - 06/28/19 03:20 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: ROBERT MCINTOSH]
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Well gentlmen...how's this for a surprise Anniversary gift from the missus?!?

All SS 18-5 1/2 STN!!!


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#181132 - 06/28/19 03:35 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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You are a lucky man. Happy Anniversary to both of you.
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#181133 - 06/28/19 04:18 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Happy Anniversary DW. Many more to come. You need the 7.5" all SS now.
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#181134 - 06/28/19 04:34 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Thanks guys! Eric, you are correct, HOWEVER: to match mine it would have to be the STN grind, and I've only seen a FEW of those (7 1/2") AND this is the ONLY 5 1/2 with STN option I've ever seen!
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#181135 - 06/28/19 05:26 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Well, maybe Gary can give you one when they finally force you to retire. Side note: Wives that buy Randalls for their Husbands automatically get into Heaven.
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#181136 - 06/28/19 06:17 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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how in the world did she find that....

:-)Rocky
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#181137 - 06/28/19 07:01 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Eric]
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Originally Posted By: Eric
Wives that buy Randalls for their Husbands automatically get into Heaven.

Congratulations Scott, on all counts..
Well, that makes at least four gals I know that will be going through the pearly gates smile
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#181140 - 06/28/19 08:25 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Michael_Mason]
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Now the question is, what did you get her????? Lol

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#181142 - 06/28/19 09:24 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Scott,
At one time, I owned "both" sizes with STNs! There's a very good chance this was one of them. Oh...I and others "knew" of this surprise! Secrets "can" be kept!
Happy Anniversary, Capt. Chris
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#181145 - 06/28/19 10:47 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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She is a gem!
Congratulations to you both!!
<3<3
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#181147 - 06/28/19 11:28 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: RamKingJC]
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Happy Anniversary,and MANY MORE!!

My children gave Ms Suzzanne & I a 50th Anniversary party 4 years ago today.


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#181148 - 06/29/19 09:19 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: KENKAN]
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Thanks to all, and a BIG thanks to Duke and Mitchell for working with Miss Gail, she is part Jewish so I know she got a great deal!!

Mitchell showed this knife in a picture of some knives they bought from the Clinton brothers, Duke sent me a close-up of it and I was enamored!! They brought it to Blade to sell, and well...it SOLD alright!!

By the way, her trip to The Streets of Gold was already GUARANTEED!!
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#181149 - 06/29/19 09:32 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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What Anniversary Scott, so I'll know when to expect mine!
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#181151 - 06/29/19 10:03 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: KENKAN]
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Was great seeing ya'll at blade, the 2 of you are truly supposed to be together.
May The Good LORD continue to Bless you as you go farther down His road.
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#181153 - 06/29/19 10:29 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Chief]
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27th and getting stronger!! Good luck Lori!
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#181154 - 06/29/19 10:39 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Happy Anniversary Scott and Gail! Wally and I are following right behind you guys. We will be at 25 years in October, but I am hoping to be the one getting a knife. Gail did a great job!
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#181157 - 06/29/19 11:08 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Lori]
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#183546 - 09/19/19 05:17 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Buck Buchanan]
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Does anyone have pics of inside the handles by chance. I’m considering getting one. I shouldn’t but I’m getting closer to doing it. I wanna test one for hiking and hunting. And other woods tasks. Since it seems no one else has posted any real world tests or reviews. Just table top reviews. Been looking at Sam Wilson also and find more info on his knife and construction pics. But the Randall is a legend but I like sams blade shape better for a real woods knife. Thanks. Great pics everyone. Also to be clear I’m not looking for destruction type tests or anything. Just real user type testing.


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#183557 - 09/19/19 08:14 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Cut it out]
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I have spent literally hours talking on the phone and exchanging emails with Sam over the last 6 years. He's a great guy. Every detail and feature on his hollow handle knives is carefully thought out, field tested, and designed to perform. He is the most passionate hollow handle knife maker out there.

That said, what's not to love and trust about the Model 18. It's the one that started it all. smile
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#183568 - 09/20/19 07:45 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: TAH]
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CUT,
from my limited experience, the area inside the handle may be different, depending on the year of production. I think that is more so for the older models, and not so much for the more recent knives....I'm just say'n
others may know better than I.

:-)Rocky
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#183577 - 09/20/19 04:07 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: thevalueman]
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Thanks guys. Sams are very very interesting and will get one of his too at some point it’s just the Randall has the history and I love the nostalgia of it too. Lol. I got issues bad. smile

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#183578 - 09/20/19 04:09 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Cut it out]
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Any more insight or pics would be appreciated.

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#183581 - 09/20/19 07:25 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Andrea Bertelli]
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Originally Posted By: Andrea Bertelli
hi guys
greeting from italy
this is one of my Randall 18

anyone could tell me the era or year of production??
thanks
this could be the coolest model 18 ever! I love these kind of pics!!!!

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#192788 - 03/03/21 08:13 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Cut it out]
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Second from left my latest #18. Got it this week from Gary Clinton.

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#196468 - 11/24/21 03:04 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Matthias]
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The pic again:

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#196473 - 11/24/21 09:45 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Matthias]
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Nice set. Very nice.
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#196488 - 11/26/21 02:47 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Shoot870p]
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My work last hour - the wrapping:



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#196489 - 11/26/21 04:49 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Matthias]
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Great!
Lots of patience.
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#196491 - 11/27/21 04:20 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Matthias]
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Nice work!
I did mine using paracord that has a stripe. The result shows an interesting pattern.
(...and I paid extra for a knurled handle; it seems a shame to cover it up!)


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#196494 - 11/27/21 10:24 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Holzinger258]
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Tough Enough ! My favorite Randall !

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#196495 - 11/28/21 07:36 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Kirko]
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Nice!!

:-)Rocky
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#199222 - 05/28/22 06:27 PM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: Dirty_Water]
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Got mind today


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#199223 - 05/29/22 01:25 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: sgteldridge]
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Purdy thing you got there Sgt. good get.

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#199224 - 05/29/22 03:55 AM Re: Knife of the Week Model 18 [Re: GHD]
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Got yourself a nice one there.
Congrats
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