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#195403 - 08/28/21 06:20 PM Re: Afghanistan [Re: GCTom41]
thevalueman Offline
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Afghan "service vehicles"
dear lord....

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#195406 - 08/28/21 08:22 PM Re: Afghanistan [Re: Jim_Schroeder]
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Originally Posted By: Jim_Schroeder

The Afghan army wasn’t real. The Afghan Civil Authority was never real. They never collected taxes. There were no courts outside of police robbing people. None of it ever existed... it was just a big jobs program funded by American money, and the moment it looked like the money would go away, everyone went home.

– Former U.S. soldier Graham Platner, interviewed by The Jerusalem Post



The Texans at the Alamo, US soldiers at Valley Forge were not paid anything.
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#195407 - 08/28/21 09:10 PM Re: Afghanistan [Re: coachblalock]
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We did it because we love our country....nomads have no country to love

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#195428 - 08/30/21 09:27 AM Re: Afghanistan [Re: thevalueman]
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Just part of what we left behind....that will be killing folks for years to come....
22,174 armored Humvees, 42 pickup trucks and SUVS, 64,363 machine guns, 162,043 radios, 16,035 night vision goggles, 358,530 assault rifles, 126,295 pistols, and 176 artillery pieces.
Also.....100 helicopters, including 33 Blackhawks, 4 C-130 transport planes, and some 60 other fixed-wing aircraft.

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#195446 - 08/31/21 07:54 AM Re: Afghanistan [Re: GCTom41]
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"The graveyard of empires" , my nephew was there during the evacuation (82 Airborne) , guess he's back now.

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#195473 - 09/02/21 04:47 PM Re: Afghanistan [Re: Kirko]
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It’s Biblical just wailing for the next Season
Glad we’re outta there
should of never been there
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#195475 - 09/02/21 05:02 PM Re: Afghanistan [Re: Sharpi]
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Biden needs to go over there and open his mouth and let all
his stupidity overwhelm them.
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#195515 - 09/04/21 07:00 PM Re: Afghanistan [Re: GCTom41]
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The -just ended- Afghanistan war was not my war; it ended up being my son’s war, though. It was worse worrying about him every day, than I ever remember worrying about myself.

He is home, permanently injured and retired- missing body parts. His best friend is buried in Maine; killed by an RPG while my son was fighting next to him. Their Combat Outpost endured over 35 RPG strikes per day, every day, for the entire year he was there.

When they got back one of the soldiers fell dead, from rabies- while standing at attention in morning formation. They found that many of them had rabies, after that. They were constantly gnawed on by rats at night, in the COP. Their unit- each deployed and deceased member- received the Valorous Unit Award- the equivalent of a Silver Star, for heroism in the action.

My son’s take on the withdrawal is that we (the US) should have pulled out of Afghanistan over a decade ago. I accept his evaluation of the matter, with no politics involved, just soldiers.

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#195555 - 09/06/21 04:31 PM Re: Afghanistan [Re: Mindelsee]
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I agree!

People that will not fight for their own freedom do not deserve it.
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#195556 - 09/06/21 05:27 PM Re: Afghanistan [Re: coachblalock]
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They have their own divisions, like many countries.

Traditionally, it was village and tribe as the basic identification, and only when invaders came in did they come together to resist.

Sort of like here, where it takes an overt external attack to get us to come together for similar purposes.

Some people now say that we should not have tried to do more than neutralize al Qaeda. But being a wealthy country with a powerful military and lavish budgets to spend led to over stepping what we tried to do.

Having "gone big" and trained and built them up, maybe we should have left a cadre of advisors there to reassure and support the army we created. Just thinking that abrupt loss of our support is probably what led to the collapse.

And maybe we aren't told everything about why we did pull out like we did.

Larry
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