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#187596 - 05/13/20 01:10 PM Abuse, faulty blade, or a combination?
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The following photos and text were done elsewhere, but I thought it was of interest to Randall folks. I have my thoughts but looking for comments,discussion:

"Anyone know if this can be repaired? I was wearing my knife because we have snakes and thorns on our property and this one little limb needed to be taken down. I made about 15 whacks on it and was about to pull it down when I saw what had happened to the blade. I was in shock!!!"


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#187597 - 05/13/20 01:17 PM Re: Abuse, faulty blade, or a combination? [Re: crutchtip]
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A knife isn't a hatchet. If he had a Model 19-5 ,he could have used the back side as a hatchet and no problem.

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#187598 - 05/13/20 01:24 PM Re: Abuse, faulty blade, or a combination? [Re: pappy19]
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Defer to the shop.

If the user sends it back, they will evaluate it and honor it.

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#187599 - 05/13/20 01:52 PM Re: Abuse, faulty blade, or a combination? [Re: LarryWW1246]
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Originally Posted By: LarryWW1246
Defer to the shop.

If the user sends it back, they will evaluate it and honor it.

Larry


You are correct larry, is should be sent to the shop, but, when you say "honor it", are you taking the position the knife is faulty?
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#187600 - 05/13/20 02:23 PM Re: Abuse, faulty blade, or a combination? [Re: crutchtip]
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I think the shop will stand behind the knife as part of their quality control, assuming they could verify what was done with it.

We have had other examples pop up on the Forum where the owner posted stuff without going back to the shop with their issues, and the shop stood behind at least one that I can recall.

I have my suspicion as to what happened with this blade, but instead of stirring the pot maybe let the shop do what they are best positioned to do--assuming they can get the knife back for evaluation.

Larry

P.S.: Can anyone explain why the guy wanted to chop off that branch?


Edited by LarryWW1246 (05/13/20 02:25 PM)
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#187601 - 05/13/20 03:42 PM Re: Abuse, faulty blade, or a combination? [Re: LarryWW1246]
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Its faulty for sure, it happens to the best of makers.

I have had knives chip out like that and I have had (it was a hatchet by a well respected maker) fold like butter.

One instance of damage that is pure accidental and perhaps an act of god so to speak is edge/bevel miss alignment. This is most likely caused by imperfections in the wood like a knot that has an extreme hardness or tougher section that causes some of the edge to follow the wood grain and become bent to the side slightly.

I have had this happen on a large Busse and a Randall 6"

The actual cutting edge is not damaged in this instance but the blade looks like it has a kink or bend on the lowest half inch. The only problem comes later when attempting to sharpen a blade with this slight edge kink.
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#187602 - 05/13/20 03:50 PM Re: Abuse, faulty blade, or a combination? [Re: LarryWW1246]
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15 whacks...he probably worked up a sweat......oak is hard. Old apple tree is worse. He needs a #14. Even then it is at your own risk being a Bubba.
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#187603 - 05/13/20 04:03 PM Re: Abuse, faulty blade, or a combination? [Re: Eric]
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Agree with Eric. If you have to chop use a big Randall not a hunting or camping knife.
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#187607 - 05/13/20 05:01 PM Re: Abuse, faulty blade, or a combination? [Re: Leatherman]
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Originally Posted By: Leatherman
Its faulty for sure, it happens to the best of makers.

I have had knives chip out like that and I have had (it was a hatchet by a well respected maker) fold like butter.

One instance of damage that is pure accidental and perhaps an act of god so to speak is edge/bevel miss alignment. This is most likely caused by imperfections in the wood like a knot that has an extreme hardness or tougher section that causes some of the edge to follow the wood grain and become bent to the side slightly.

I have had this happen on a large Busse and a Randall 6"

The actual cutting edge is not damaged in this instance but the blade looks like it has a kink or bend on the lowest half inch. The only problem comes later when attempting to sharpen a blade with this slight edge kink.


Ben - this is kinda an answer I was looking for. How can you, me, or anyone else determine the blade is faulty by a photograph?

The fact the guy took a light weight tall bevel skinning knife and hit the knot of the branch coming out of the tree 15 times couldn't create that type of failure in a "non faulty" blade?

This is kinda what concerned me when I read this elsewhere, is that 75% of the respondents completely discounted what the owner used the knife for, 100% contrary to what RMK states in their catalog.

No one took into account that it was a lightweight skinning knife.

All makers can let a bad one slip out the door, but are you gonna take your Prius 4 wheeling?
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#187608 - 05/13/20 05:13 PM Re: Abuse, faulty blade, or a combination? [Re: crutchtip]
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Definitely not the proper tool for the job, but I wouldn't be suprised if RMK replaces it, just because that's the kind of folks they are.
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