#126565 - 04/17/15 10:45 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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ok here is a cute little 2-5" dressed up! This one needs a new home and will soon be on the sales forum......
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#126570 - 04/17/15 11:22 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Now that's great knives! Awesome Mitch....😀
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#126577 - 04/18/15 12:29 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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#126578 - 04/18/15 12:43 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Hey, there's a squirrel in here. Super knives, everyone!
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#126582 - 04/18/15 01:24 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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#126584 - 04/18/15 02:09 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Please, no feeding the squirrels.
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#126587 - 04/18/15 08:19 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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oh my goodness!!! these photos are what I was talking about!!! I'll bet we are going to get to see some great knives/shoot we already have!! I was talking to a fellow Randall collector yesterday. He mentioned that he was going to be selling some of his Ivory Ranalls...to which I asked "why would you do that"? His response was "we really don't own these knives, we just get to keep them for a period of time, then they belong to someone else" Here is one I sold a while back... :-)Rocky
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#126589 - 04/18/15 08:54 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Here is my small Gambler and my Rick Bowles Special in ivory
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#126592 - 04/18/15 09:36 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Lots of great knives, keep'em coming!
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#126594 - 04/18/15 09:44 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Tune, those 1's are real showstoppers!
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#126603 - 04/18/15 10:49 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Here are a few I found laying around. Years and Models?
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#126609 - 04/18/15 11:20 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Great knives, guys. Like Rocky, I've sold several ivory randalls that I wish I'd kept, but I can throw out this beautiful Randy Lee I bought in the mid 90s. Ivory and red micarta, and the ivory seems to get better looking with age.
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#126625 - 04/18/15 03:00 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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a couple more!
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#126627 - 04/18/15 03:35 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Mitchel, Your going to laugh at me when I tell you this.... I cannot find the darn sheath!!! I had it, and it's gone....I've put it somewhere, but I do not, cannot, remember where....thought for a while that I just might have sent it to Grady....but I think that he would have called by now....I've been looking for the thing for a couple years....I was all over my dad for miss placing his sheaths, and look what has happened to me.... :-)Rocky
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#126700 - 04/20/15 01:44 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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One of my customers orders Bowies every shipment. A 12-9 Sportsman's Bowie & a 12-8 Bear with nickel-silver furniture, including butt cap, and elephant ivory delivered just before the Shop's policy went into effect.
Sadly, the ivory cracked on the 12-9, three months after delivery.
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#126705 - 04/20/15 09:01 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Burnie told me...I did not recall, or I missed it completely. He was a good guy!! He always was looking to make a deal. I will miss him!! :-)Rocky
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#126712 - 04/20/15 11:01 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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#126713 - 04/20/15 11:10 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Some more...
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#126719 - 04/20/15 01:14 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Top shelf Guido! Each knife stands alone as a magnificent work of art. I’m drawn to the simplicity of the 12-6 ivory tip –- unique knife and a nice sheath pairing!
Have a good week,
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#126731 - 04/20/15 04:12 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Where does Guido come up with this stuff? He should start his own, personal Randall museum!!! I guess he as...never mind!! :-)Rocky
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#126738 - 04/20/15 04:23 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Thanks Jay..! Too generous Rocky ;))))
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#126783 - 04/20/15 10:52 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Here is a few!
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#126784 - 04/20/15 10:53 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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LAST ONE I OWN
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#126785 - 04/20/15 11:09 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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alright Guido now you're just being mean lol. Love that Trapper scrim, who did that one.
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#126789 - 04/21/15 04:55 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Chief ! That trapper was made by an Italian master engraver: Roberto Bruci Same guy who did the three Sachems on the new withe micarta.
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#126792 - 04/21/15 08:04 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Superb, Guido.
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#126804 - 04/21/15 06:45 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Nice work, very clean. That ivory 19 would be sexy even without a scrim. nice creations you commissioned into being. You are braver than me I never did finger grips on my ivories. I always bought them that way, the extra heat made me nervous lol
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#126818 - 04/21/15 10:12 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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lol then why do I still want them!!!!
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#126822 - 04/21/15 11:13 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Anything Guido has is worth wanting!! :-)Rocky
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#126834 - 04/22/15 11:00 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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while ivory probably isn't the best material for a carry piece, there are more than a couple that have been carried and used in the field, some by notable owners. Here is one that was carried in the Korean War according to the original owner's family and accompanying provenance.
Nevertheless, the handle has held up well with checking but no indications the handle would fail. This is particularly interesting as Korea has some rough winters. I say this knife (and sheath) is the definition of one with "character".
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#126845 - 04/22/15 03:15 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Here's my contribution: A September 1965 ordered 12-11 with ivory handle. It was ordered by an Army MP and carried in Vietnam. I've got the original order acknowledgment letter from Randall and the letter giving the ship date.
Dan Snyder RKCC CM-155
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#126852 - 04/22/15 06:05 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Crutch!! That knife is orgasmic!! OMG :-)Rocky
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#126870 - 04/22/15 09:32 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Rocky -
I have gone through a few in my day, and this is one I kinda wish I had held on to. Documented carried pieces from the Korean War seem to be the most difficult to find out of the "Big Three", WWII, Korea, and Viet Nam.
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#126873 - 04/22/15 09:51 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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"I've got the original order acknowledgment letter from Randall and the letter giving the ship date."
And THAT my friends is the real Provenance that counts!
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#127945 - 05/14/15 09:34 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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#128122 - 05/20/15 01:34 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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I recently purchased a Model 12-9 Sportsman Bowie with an elephant ivory tip handle. It was described as having a walrus handle so I asked David Warther about the handle material and he made some very interesting comments. I learned facts about ivory I never knew. Here are his comments:
The type of grain as well as the colors in the ivory tell me for sure this is West African hard ivory ( WAHI ). Notice the tan on the top run of the ivory and the lace grain on the sides of the handle - clear features of WAHI. It is great stuff - when I find such tusks I set them aside for special uses on musical instruments as the material has better acoustical properties than does savannah ivory. The material is 7% heavier than savannah ivory and harder. It has a glassier look and feel to it and has a degree of translucency not found in any of the other ivories - it has a glow about it and in thinner forms, less massive form than this handle, the translucency is highly pronounced and most endearing to the soul. If you hold it very close to a very bright light ( do so briefly so no lasting heat can affect your ivory ) and compare it to other elephant handles under this condition you will see the glow and translucency I make mention of. Its features include it being less likely to crack from heat seizing.
This is an exceptional handle. If both sides show this vivid lace grain with a similar look then your handle was made from a very small tusk and the nerve runs the centerline of the handle. The WA tusks are smaller than savannah, by far, and recently it was determined to be a different specie - settling an argument that ran for millennia. I would say the tusk was only 1.5 to 2 feet long and most likely came from Liberia, West Africa. The glassy tactile nature of this type ivory caused it to be highly sought after by the Brits for their chess sets. What made it to America were from personal hunts in Liberia and sometimes Nigeria, occasionally western Congo, and often enough brought back by missionaries. The rubber plantations in WA, especially Liberia, brought the majority of the stock into the US. All of our rubber companies ( tires ) had extensive plantations there thru the 60's and 70's until the rubber plantations in SE Asia, Malaysia, etc. took the volume away. So for decades there was a flow of " rubber executive ivory " streaming in from WA with such tusks. Few, if any, were imported by the import houses here in the US as the commercial trade saw them headed to London for domestic use only - not for re-exportation - again - for the Brit's chess set companies.
The size, geometry and glassy feel of the WAHI could have caused a novice to believe he/she had a walrus tusk section and so there is a plausible explanation as to why the original owner, or subsequent owner(s) believed he/she had a walrus ivory Randall. Also, the glassy feel of the finished product is much like the glassy feel of walrus - modern walrus more so than fossil has this self-same feature. At this point I would bet good money this is WAHI. I live 50 miles from Akron, Ohio and have bought a lot of " rubber ivory " over the years from the estates of the rubber company executives that lived near this tire capital of the world. Incredible material.
The nerve is clearly seen coming out on the end so this is elephant (walrus does not have a black dot nerve) and, as mentioned, West African. It is from the tip of a small WAHI tusk.
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#128141 - 05/20/15 07:08 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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David... It's amazing what you(not me) can see by just what is illustrated in the photo's. It goes to show who the professional is. Also Goes to the point about why we cannot use "pre" ivory, form a true professional who knows the business. :-)R oh....darn beautiful knife!!
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#128144 - 05/20/15 08:33 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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HERE'S A GREAT KNIFE, PURE SILVER HILT, SPACERS AND BUTT CAP FROM DOUG C. AND BLUE FOSSIL WALRUS CENTER.
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#128214 - 05/22/15 03:04 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Beautiful knife Jim, I haven't seen to many of the big knives with a "tip" handle. Do you have a rough idea as to the age of the knife?
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#128223 - 05/22/15 07:43 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Chief,
I don't know the age as I bought it second hand.
Here are a few more "Tips" for you.
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#128230 - 05/22/15 11:43 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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WOW Jim......Beautiful "TIPS"!!
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#128242 - 05/23/15 01:23 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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I can't believe that I'm seeing all of these "tips", unreal display.
Pap
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#128248 - 05/23/15 01:45 PM
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And my "ivory" certainly is not the same....., BUT, I do love Tips!
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#128256 - 05/23/15 05:35 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Jim, I never knew that the Bowles tip you got from me had a matching tip with collar & engraving! David engrave it also?
Very sweet collection you have there.
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#128267 - 05/23/15 11:35 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Jim,
Your collection is absolutely amazing.
Alan Grombacher RKCC-CMI-010 RKS#5531
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#128268 - 05/24/15 03:32 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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I have just this one...
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#128269 - 05/24/15 03:33 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Jim: your collection of Ivory Tips is just...outstanding !!!
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#128278 - 05/24/15 12:04 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Anytime Rob and thank you for an easy and pleasant transaction.
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#128497 - 05/31/15 03:27 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Rob,
Great looking knives; the one with the butt plate is extraordinary! Enjoy them.
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#128498 - 05/31/15 04:49 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Dear lord!!! :-)Rocky
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#128499 - 05/31/15 06:04 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Rob Super looking knives, you picked some great handle material
Peter
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#128501 - 05/31/15 07:28 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
[Re: Peter_Kaufman]
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Nice pieces of fossil, when you can get them shaped & no pith shows but the color stays very nice in deed great looking RMK's!!
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#128502 - 05/31/15 08:02 PM
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A+ Rob.
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#128507 - 05/31/15 08:38 PM
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#128544 - 06/01/15 09:58 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Very nice! I love fossil ivory.....:)
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#128550 - 06/02/15 10:17 AM
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Just...AMAZING !!
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#128557 - 06/02/15 03:43 PM
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Griffin drop point with Leschorn and Skagg's embellishment. Mastodon ivory. Light is a bit bright to get the true color and texture.
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#128563 - 06/02/15 06:22 PM
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That is a sweet looking Griffin and the B side?
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#128570 - 06/03/15 12:57 AM
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Cap'n, check your email pls.
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#128572 - 06/03/15 06:46 AM
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David -
don't have good photos right now that really show that handle well. Light is a bit bright on the posted ones. I'll see if I can get a few better ones.
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#128574 - 06/03/15 07:10 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Joe,
Great knife; the shaped handle and engraving, it is one of the best!
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#128593 - 06/03/15 10:15 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Chief,
Is this the knife below you had? Here is the info on the engraving:
The nickel silver hilt & collar were engraved by David Perdue - marked DP115. All the acorns are 24 carat gold inlay.
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#128595 - 06/03/15 10:24 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Jim,
Yes that was it. I was curious if the one 3rd from the left in the group picture is like a match for it? They look like left & right tusk tips.
That knife is the only un-signed scrim by Rick Bowles that I know of.
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#128596 - 06/03/15 11:49 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Chief,
That's the same knife front and back as the one above. I probably shouldn't have done it, but I had Rick sign it.
I'm still feeling a little tipsy, so here are are three Model 7's.
Jim
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#128600 - 06/04/15 11:15 AM
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Rob,
Technically these "cracks" are "natural surface checks" since they do not penetrate into the the ivory. I believe the old pachyderm creates these when he roots around with his tusks. Some do not like them, but I think it adds character.
Now, this is a CRACK!
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#128601 - 06/04/15 11:36 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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I believe the old pachyderm creates these when he roots around with his tusks. Unfortunately, I don't believe this crack came from the elephant rooting around. At some point, this ivory expanded and was forced to crack under pressure between the guard and the pommel. Same thing happened on my Rod Chappel knife. Love it still the same, though.
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#128604 - 06/04/15 06:02 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Ivory cracks are like scars!! Chicks dig them!! :-)Rocky
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#128621 - 06/05/15 07:15 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Don't have much to contribute here, just a Lil Nutcracker!
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#128625 - 06/05/15 09:49 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
[Re: CrazyCajun]
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Crazy!! That's a fine "nutcracker"!!! :-)Rocky
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#128673 - 06/08/15 06:34 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
[Re: Jim459]
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Jim,
I'm surprised that the crack isn't closed tighter than that where you live! it probably would here in Louisiana with the humidity. Nice deep engraving.
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#128684 - 06/08/15 09:41 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
[Re: Chief]
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Chief,
Here it is all closed up.
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#128686 - 06/08/15 10:15 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Ha now your just being mean ....flipping it over! Very nice, did you have David engrave it or did it come that way? You can't even see the crack, did it happen while you had it or did it come that way from a previous owner?
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#128688 - 06/09/15 10:07 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
[Re: Chief]
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Chief,
I didn't flip it over! The Randall logo is always in the photos.
I had a luthier (look it up), who was an expert in ivory repair, fill the crack. Then I asked a scrimshaw artist to complete the cover-up.
Jim
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#128700 - 06/09/15 08:00 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Jim you are truly a man who loves his ivory........Hats off to you awesome job.
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#128892 - 06/15/15 09:20 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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I couldn't let Mitchell have all the fun.
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#128895 - 06/15/15 10:58 AM
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#128902 - 06/15/15 05:12 PM
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Beautiful knife.
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#128903 - 06/15/15 05:17 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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me neither!! :-)Rocky
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#128917 - 06/16/15 11:50 AM
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Here's a neat #11 from a few years ago:
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#128918 - 06/16/15 01:41 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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I'll add one more - a 14 :
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#128924 - 06/16/15 04:00 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Niceeeee!
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#128944 - 06/17/15 07:40 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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I really like that #11, what a beautiful handle!! :-)Rocky
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#129025 - 06/20/15 07:04 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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FWI 2-4... the "wife knife" ( she hasn't stuck it in me yet ) The .45 is an original US National Match, 1964 issue, with the Drake slide. Packaging and cheesecloth - wrapped cleaning rod original to the weapon.
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#129026 - 06/20/15 10:42 PM
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Wow....awesome pistol. I'm a huge 1911 fan.
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#129030 - 06/21/15 12:43 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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I like Single Action Armys myself. - Buckspen
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#129034 - 06/21/15 03:36 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Either of the last two types of ".45's" are cool guns.
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#143204 - 06/08/16 09:59 AM
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1 Narwhal 4 FWI Rest are Ivory Pictures suck but these RMK's still look good.
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#143221 - 06/08/16 02:19 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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I really like that push dagger!
- - - Buckspem
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#143248 - 06/08/16 06:35 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Very nice ivory!
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#143258 - 06/08/16 07:23 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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That Cattleman SFG done by the shop?
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#143263 - 06/08/16 07:30 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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That Cattleman SFG done by the shop? Yes, It looks good to me.
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#143266 - 06/08/16 07:34 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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I have no love for a Cattleman.......but that set up is sexy looking. How long is that handle?
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#143267 - 06/08/16 07:43 PM
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Handle is a tad over 4".
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#143269 - 06/08/16 07:55 PM
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Nice gives me a better idea of size.
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#143270 - 06/08/16 07:56 PM
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[Re: Chief]
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Blade is exactly 3 1/4"
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#143319 - 06/09/16 05:00 PM
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Eric, message me about the two knives shown between the push dagger and the Cattleman please. Thank you!
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#143697 - 06/18/16 02:14 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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All Ivory
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#143701 - 06/18/16 03:26 PM
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I'm loving that Model 4-7" on the bottom right!
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#143703 - 06/18/16 03:31 PM
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TB, Came with a Brown Button Sheath with white print 2 tone stone. Named to a Nobel L. Gardner
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#143705 - 06/18/16 03:51 PM
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Capt. Chris, More picks on the Pathfinder. I like the look of the FWI on one side and Musk ox on the other sandwiched by Black Micarta. Brass hilt and pommel with bl/Br/Bl spacers.
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#143710 - 06/18/16 04:48 PM
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Eric, was the Model 26 above one of Jack Crider's custom builds? It sure is a beauty!
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#143713 - 06/18/16 05:16 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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No, came from a friend in Germantown, OH
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#143715 - 06/18/16 05:34 PM
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...Who might have gotten it from Jack if it was one of his knives.
Larry
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#143716 - 06/18/16 05:50 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
[Re: LarryWW1246]
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I called my friend, He said he got it from Tom Clinton. Came with a croc Sullivan sheath marked croc on the back. I can add pics on f the sheath?
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#143719 - 06/18/16 06:44 PM
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No, that's fine. I love it though!
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#143728 - 06/18/16 10:08 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Eric I want to thank you in advance for selling me that Ivory Clinton special one day LOL! One of my favorite knives!
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#143744 - 06/19/16 08:50 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Capt. Chris, That explains the pattern perfectly. Have you seen any other handle examples using what looks to be a solid black micarta section? Is the sheath correct for an early Model 26? Thanks, Eric
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#143765 - 06/19/16 03:08 PM
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Eric, your sheath is correct for an early Model 26 Pathfinder. Here is my 1992 Rick Bowles Ivory embellished knife and correct sheath for comparison.
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#143775 - 06/19/16 08:24 PM
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Thanks Guys for the expertise.....and a BIG Happy Fathers Day to all!
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#143776 - 06/19/16 08:30 PM
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Same to you Sir!
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#145041 - 07/16/16 07:50 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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WOW! Beautiful!
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#145042 - 07/16/16 08:21 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Great looking knife with some outstanding features (love the hilt engraving). Congratulations! I was one of the underbidders for it on ebay. Nice to know it went to a new home where it will be appreciated.
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Rob, sorry to hear about the cracks; always a danger with that handle material. Enjoy it in good health, as it is a beautiful example of the bladesmith's art. The engraved hilt, the etched Bo signature, the handle shape and material, and the blade profile all came together just about perfectly, at least from my perspective (I'm a big fan of the drop point design). Not a bad provenance either according to the catalog listing. It was the first of the Rhett catalog knives that've sold on ebay recently that I bid on (I've watched a few, but have not pulled the bid trigger until this one came up). There have been some cool ones, but yours is a real gem. There is a somewhat similarly configured Model 10-3.75" listed today on ebay. Again, congrats on a great piece for the collection.
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#145051 - 07/17/16 08:23 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Bob, The knife on eBay (291813925338) you refer to also has a W.D. Randall etching on the blade. It also is in the 1991 catalog. I was told the etching on that special Model 10 blade was not authorized by RMK. That is why I returned it to the eBay seller. He is a great seller and returned my payment without issue. I did not tell him why I was returning the knife.
I shied away from the Ivory DP because I feared that etching was also unauthorized by RMK.
Rob, If you care to find out.....you can send your Knife to Joe Dorsky, he may be able to verify the etching on your DP.
Eric
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#145074 - 07/17/16 03:16 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Thanks Eric. Good information to know.
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#145086 - 07/17/16 07:54 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Bob, The knife on eBay (291813925338) you refer to also has a W.D. Randall etching on the blade. It also is in the 1991 catalog. I was told the etching on that special Model 10 blade was not authorized by RMK. That is why I returned it to the eBay seller. He is a great seller and returned my payment without issue. I did not tell him why I was returning the knife. Eric
Great to know! Thanks for the information.
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#145109 - 07/18/16 09:09 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Yes Eric, thanks for the heads up on the 10-3. I also considered bidding on that one but when I'd seen the drop point come along, my mind was made up. I've yet to own a Griffin DP and I'm very lucky to get one in ivory, whether Bo's signature or not.
Just curious as who stated the 10-3 signature was not authorized, was it the seller, a Randall dealer, Joe? It seems about 10 knives(not including the 50th anniversary models)in the catalog that have the same signature, wondering if just some or all 10 for that matter were not authorized. I've met Joe and know he's the new authenticator, maybe he'll post something. Thanks again.
Rob DW stated that the model 10 as Cap has stated is not shop produced with that ivory handle and shape, etching done at a later date. Capt. said that Pete Hamilton had the panograph signature template for the Hermes acid-etching machine and has/had been known to provide that service. This was in the "My Randalls" thread found here: http://www.knifetalkforums.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=139026&page=5
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#169401 - 03/08/18 07:24 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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O.K...this really wasn't the thread I was looking for, but, I'll start here.... So, not only is the current administration going to allow the import(case by case) of ivory, it appears that they are going to relax many restrictions on other hunting trophies as well. Will this encourage folks in the knife business to reconsider some of their policies concerning ivory??
:-)Rocky
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#169404 - 03/08/18 10:43 AM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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The policy change set forth in the 3/1/2018 US DOI FWS Memorandum appears to only affect the criteria used by the FWS in evaluating applications for permits to import certain trophy materials (particularly for African elephants sport-hunted in South Africa, Namibia, Zambia and Zimbabwe). The existing across-the-board prohibition on the issuance of permits to import such trophies is apparently being lifted, and import permit applications will instead be reviewed (and approved or denied) on a case-by-case basis. The FWS Memorandum does NOT appear to change any policies other than those regarding criteria for trophy import permits. The Memorandum does NOT mention, or appear to affect, the FWS 7/6/2016 near-total ban on US interstate commerce in African elephant ivory, subject to the stated exceptions, i.e., antique, de minimis, CITES pre-convention certified, etc. The Memorandum also does not mention or affect any African elephant ivory ownership or commerce ban or restrictions imposed by individual states. Here is a link/location to the US DOI Fish & Wildlife Service 3/1/2018 Memorandum. https://www.fws.gov/international/pdf/me...ed-trophies.pdfBob
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#169416 - 03/08/18 09:27 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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O.K....I'm sorry, so what does all that mean?? Ivory, or no ivory
:-)Rocky
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#169418 - 03/08/18 09:44 PM
Re: Got Ivory!!
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Rocky,
I think that it means you can apply for a permit to import ivory from those African nations if it is part of a trophy which you sport-hunted. No guarantee that the permit will be issued, but you are able to apply for it and the decision will be made on a case-by-case basis (no such permits issued under former rules).
There has been no change to the ban on interstate ivory commerce or sales in the US in place since July, 2016.
It is still OK to own ivory, but not OK to sell it in interstate commerce unless it qualifies under one of the exceptions (e.g., de minimis usage, made before 7/2016, and is antique or was imported to US pre-CITES convention; and you have the records or documents to prove it). I don't think you'll see RMK, or any other knife makers, changing their no-African elephant ivory policy based on this memorandum.
Bob
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