That's either a poorly written article or a poorly written law. "It prohibits the sale of ivory less than 100 years old", and "covers extinct mammoths." Have we had some mammoths go extinct in the last 100 years?

The illogic of the NY and NJ bans signifies how gut-driven and ideological the anti-ivory thing is at heart.

They also demonstrate how politicians can put through anything they like into law--nonsensical as it might be.

Most of the animal rights and environmental groups are membership-wide devoted to a total ban on any ownership and sale of ivory--period.

These groups and their political associates form a closed-loop thinking circle where what someone asserts becomes the mantra that all of them adhere to, irrespective of logic or contradictory facts, information, or arguments. The classic definition of a closed mind.

And the politicians who initiate such ideas (no need to name them again here) seem to be able to galvanize these groups in support of causes like the ban, and can count on that devotion carrying through at the polls.

So--while we get a lot of solicitations for donations to "save" some species, we now screen them and do not donate to any that support the ban.

The last I heard, The Nature Conservancy did not support the ban, and the National Geographic Society might not (at least it is willing to publish alternative points of view, which the ideologues will not do).

So we donate to the Conservancy. And when it comes to the Humane Society of the US--we only donate to local shelters.

Here are a couple of links for readers here to explore:

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/...#comment-398956

http://elephantprotection.org/

Larry

Well I have been gone for a few years from the forum. it's wild to read this thread on no more ivory.
Used to be all the discussions were on "it's checked will it crack?", how to ship it so it won't crack, leave water by them, baby oil the handle..... glad I never went in for ivory.

Hey Chief!!!
Good to see you back.
Hope all is well.

I too never got around to buying any ivory-handled Randalls. Lucky, I guess??
:-)

I like Ivory and yes some have checked and cracked. Still something about real Elephant Ivory feels good and looks great and ages fantastic. It's too bad about the proposed bans, I don't believe it will work. I'll still purchase if given the chance. I don't resell so I'm not worried about getting stuck with them. I'm curious to see what Ivory prices do in the future. I predict they will go up in value.

Unfortunately, the intent of the proposed ban is the exact opposite - to make ivory valueless.

Ditto on the above !!!

Tom,

I'll take any valueless ivory knife you have (if the ivory is perfect). I will even give you 1/2 the Randall original cost for them.

Jim

Thanks for the offer, Jim, but I'm not looking to get rid of my ivory, but I would certainly like to have the option to legally sell it in the future.

Thanks Tony, I'm good. Hope you & yours are doing well.

As for me not buying ivory......I may have been fibbing a little as I have been big on ivory. in the past & have always liked the exotic handle materials as well.