How bout a first ever BMK knife build?

Just got off the phone with Grant about an hour ago. I asked him if they would be up for a forum build? Well he just about jumped through the phone and said it would be a first forum build for BMK. So how about it; sky's the limit or not you tell me. For now lets just see if we have enough interest in pursuing this further down the road.

So is it:

A: Yes
B: No
C: Yes but a later time

C) lets finish the hunter Christmas build first.

A: Yes

The odds of someone winning both in the drawings are pretty slim.

A: Indubitabtly

A: Yes

Let's not get too crazy though, I've got teenagers to feed!!! A well optioned user would be nice.

I'll participate for sure!

A!

A. Yes

A. Yes

LOL, Steve I already counted you as a yes.

Now, that is a great idea!

Hey everybody,
Warren and I spoke of this last week. I hope it turns out to be just as fun and cool as the Randall builds. I may peak in, from time to time, but I think Grant will run this one quite well...and Warren as well.
Best, Capt. Chris

Yes, and I may have a starter. How about a Behring Loveless Semi-Skinner?

Pap

Cap,
Thanks. I think we can run these together. Thank you for the reply. And yes please do contribute if we get to the point.

Nice one Pap. If we get to build something, well yes possibly.

A.

A- Hades yeah!!

Miss Gail too?

Yes

Already a given.

Mike, that is a great sample, to start the initial process. I personally do not know all the knives BMK offers. I have seen more of the re-handle jobs they do and they are amazing. I am in on this but I'll have to OJT on this one.

max

Max,

We're not there yet. Let's see if we have enough interest but it looks good so far.

A - count me in!

Look forward to it...

Let's do it
I hope they can get to it after the next 50 of Warren's knives

Peter

NEED that good luck charm!!

I am totally in. This was an extraordinarily good idea.

Peter, love the comment. LOL!

Max, OJT?

I'm in!!!
Max....what build are you speaking to??
:-)Rocky

Peter,

They'll squeeze it in. But thanks for the concern

Grant & James,

I am in; this is a great first for you guys, thanks!

Tom Flynn

Peter,

That was true and funny!

Tom Flynn

A: Yes

OK<
Enough's enough! Build something already! We're burnin' daylight!
Best, Capt. Chris

I'll get in touch with Grant later this morning for a kick off. Looks like lots of support. Thanks for the replies guys. It will be fun.

Excellent idea Warren. Thanks for doing this. And thanks to the BMK folks for their efforts in this.

So Grant said have at it and lets get going. So maybe a good place to start is by reviewing their website under Build Your Own, and Archives. There's lots to choose from. Here's a list of some from the Build Your Own:
Trout Knife
Trout &Bird
Blackfoot River Filet
Montanna Skinner
Alaskan
Hunter
Mission Knife
Nessmuck
Fighters
Bowies
Pack Axe
Camp Knife
Boot Knife
Woodcraft

And from the Archives:
Sharptails
Big Knives: Recurves, Chute Knife, Sasquatch Style, Bushmaster Style, Parang, Kukri
Double Edge
Highwoods
Drop Points
Behring Straights
Capers
Pintails
Pocket Knives

Think we have enough to choose from? This should be a fun build. Grant will moderate and answer questions as we roll along. So lets here from ya!

Nessmuck

Pap

Pocket Knives

Nessmuck is a great choice. I could go for that one.

Build Your Own:
http://www.behringmade.com/pages/handmade-collection

Archives:
http://www.behringmade.com/pages/behring-made-archives
For quick review

How about a Sub Hilt Pack Axe
or a Trout Knife
or Maybe a Combination for a totally different look?

Thanks for posting the links Dave. I neglected to do that.

Nice idea Dave. That Mission Blade has been calling my name recently. Don't have one yet.

I think the Chute Knife is one of their best shaped blades with a Sub-Hilt.

Tom Flynn

Rocky,

the build Capt Chris just offered. we are voting now on what type it should be. Hunter, Bowie, Fighter etc.

but the Capt. doesn't think two builds at once is an issue so I am in on this one also.

max

While you guys are at it why don't you start a Behring Knife Collector's Club? I nominate Warren for President.

Thanks for the nomination Jim but oh no no.

Gone a few days and all kinds of cool stuff. I didn't get a chance to vote but I say build it. Should be fun.

Go big or go home!

got it Max....I'm easy to confuse....
without picking a particular blade I'd really like to see a "sub hilt"....
I would think something along the lines of what we cannot get out of RMK, and something special to BMK
Just say'n
:-)Rocky

Rocky,

Great idea. Here's a couple of BMK sub-hilt knives for your viewing pleasure. Trust me they don't disappoint.

TTB,
Superb sub-hilt Thorp inspired blade. That clip is awesome.

Steven,

We're building it so jump in anytime.

Fellas,

I spoke with James about this project and he too was excited from the go. We're going to have some fun with this one no matter what y'all come up with. He mentioned special stamping as well, so something to keep in mind would be how to personalize this one.

I'm going to be checking in at least daily to moderate as ideas come together, but I'll enjoy sitting back and letting you gents dial it in. Feel free to ask me any questions and I'll bring clarity where I can.

Make it good!

-GC

I really would like an Alaskan.

Thanks Grant; we're off to a good start. Appreciate the input and the special stamp is a way cool idea.

this is going to be harder than we think....how many options....jezz...there needs to be some type of limit...BMK, of course, will do just about anything we can come up with....there is no spacer limit, there is no handle limit, there is no hilt limit, there is no blade limit....there is no limit.....I guess the blade is obviously the first place to start, of course there is no limit.....
I'm in for a Mission/Fighter/Recurve Camp knife....too many choices!!!
:-)Rocky

Oh Yes! With a sub hilt and a camp axe!

I can always dream

Grant,
Good talking with you today. As we discussed, between all of us, we'll navigate this build. I like Steve's photo of that bad-ass Alaskan!! Man-o-man...That one doesn't suck!!
Everyone: As many options and choices as we have, I would also remind you that: Giving "The James Gang" some artistic license has "ALWAYS" worked best for me! I cannot wait to see what develops.
Best, Capt. Chris

Alaskan is a great choice:

possibilities are endless

Oh Capt!!!
Without a doubt!!!
actually....we could just let James make the build, and it would be terrific!!
but....that would take the fun out of things!!!
They do however, get a little squeamish when the handle material gets "too big"
:-)Rocky

Rocky,
I'm smiling. Every time I gave James a big piece of handle material, I got a bigger knife.

Let's do this- I'm in but Kinda partial to the mission...

No pun intended

hunter or a mission blade are 2 of my fav's!
So blade style doesn't limit blade length here I'm guessing?
Something to keep in mind when we do this?
There are standard knives here as well as customs!
I would suggest a tour of the archives for any who haven't already seen them.

As for custom I'm partial to skull hammer marked blades.
And that hilt and blade that str8shuuter just posted are just what I'm talking about!

That Mission is set-up as a fighter. The blade is an oversized Bird &Trout. It looks great with a single hilt IMO, but equally as well as a fighter with a double hilt.

That's what I thought when I saw the picture, single hilt would look very nice. Add a little file work to the spine.......

Or a Sub-hilt.

Uhhh your kinda proving my point, options are up to us mostly.
Soo unless whomever is ramrodding this build sets specific parameters gonna be hard to count up the votes.
features like the hilt will have to have votes on:
1) single or double or sub-hilt
2) material
3) shape
Gonna take a minute to do & that's just the hilt!

Maybe WE need to set a limit then?? Grant or Warren could come up with a few numbers of options for us to vote on?? Nobody wants to be limited, but it would be nice to get this done sometime soonish...

I like that one myself Max.

We're getting way ahead of ourselves with options. Let's start with a blade first. Give it a few days and we'll narrow down the choices. All great discussion so far, keep it up.

Missions are great BMK multi-purpose knives.

But so are some of their smaller hunter blades.

[quote=Chief]As for custom I'm partial to skull hammer marked blades./quote]

I like the skull hammer marked blades as well!

Tom Flynn

Chiming in here on a few points-

1) You'll notice the Mission archive is much smaller than most any others because they're typically saved for special order and James has told me on numerous occasions that it's one of his favorite profiles to make. It could be a fun route to go for the first one as it scratches a number of different itches being somewhat a cross between the fighter, hunter and trout & bird.

2) Size is not an issue here at BMK.... We can make it as big or small as your want.

As soon as Chief reads this he will be voting for a 13 inch Mission knife skull marked!

Grant and James
How about a sword, Warren doesn't have one yet that I know of

Peter

It's always fun to flex your style and try new things, but......

"I'm never making one of those things again", said James.

You're gonna have to find that last one if you ever want a 28" BMK broadsword

He just got something that is VERY close to being a sword....

Or just make one from a bayonet.

Exhibit A.

I like the way you think Grant - I'm partial to the Mission, the T&B profile, and the ghost skulls.

I don't know what blade length Bob's example of The Mission is...but it looks about right for my tastes.
Best, Capt. Chris

Another point of curiosity as we're new to this- would you gentleman prefer that we only make ONE of these, or should the design be open to unlimited orders?

I'll answer before "The gentlemen" get a chance. If you build one you should be open to more orders. I think everyone's just glad you guys are doing this. If somebody wants this knife, once it is decided...and they "don't" get their number picked, they could still obtain one. Besides: You could always alter the spacer pattern or something to where it's a tad unique without losing sales...just sayin'
Capt. Chris

Also James' idea of special etching could make it unique for the first 1.

What size is this blade?
I'm with the Captain,(for a change) this has a real nice look!

R skull Hammer marks really that cool??? I am not sold on that fact.

Don't worry about being sold on it........it's not a chargeable option!!

wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll..................

This bad boy is 7" - just to throw mud in perfectly brown water...
This one is a bit larger

The mission that I posted (single hilt with musk ox and horsehide #25 style handle) has a 6" blade (slightly smaller than the 7" Mission that Gerry posted above).

I wholeheartedly agree with the Capt. that the "build knife" should be available for later orders, and I like the idea of a slight variation to the handle or no special etching to distinguish the 'second generation' knives from the original build knife. It's great that James and Grant have agreed to do this for us and I'd bet that some of the participants whose number is not picked for the build knife would welcome the opportunity to order it separately.

I love the BMK hammermarks, but I'm also not convinced that the skulls are the way to go.

How about a large drop point camp knife?

Bob,

I'd be on a Mission with you and Gerry. I'm really liking that blade.

I kinda like the skull hammer marks. The Mission knife is cool and I also like the T&B style. a 6in blade seems to be big enough for a working knife. Maybe who ever wins just wants for it to be a safe queen.

Hey guys,

I was originally thinking a caper would be neat build as they're such useful knives, but the Mission blade sure is slick! I'd be game for a Mission blade. Their fluted buffalo or checkered wood handles are unique. Look forward to working through it...

Have a good evening,

Jay

Now that is a great idea on the checkering!!!

I find I like the Black Micarta Recurve Fighter the most.


Black Micarta Recurve Fighter



.

I've gone back to the beginning and listed the blades discussed so far.
Alaskan
Nesmuck
Sub Hilt Pack Axe
Trout Knife
Mission
Chute
Bowie's
Hunter
Drop Point Camp
Recurve Figher

That narrows it down, lol.

If we're going to pick from one you list Warren, I'll vote

Alaskan

Not voting on anything yet Steve just trying to pull it together.

Could always do a plain hammer mark, for those of us who like .......plain!

the quicker we get this blade thing "hammered" out(yes, pun) the quicker we can move on to the next step....this is not going to be easy!!!
:-)Rocky

Agreed Rocky. We're going to need narrow down the field and take a vote.

I'm somewhat indifferent on the sub-hilt but I like that recurve grind in the top knife.

The "Mission" blade profile looked nice, too.

Rob,

It's not an exact copy, but the top knife was a Sasquatch inspired grind. These were the first two that got me off and running with BMK.

That's certainly a looker. I'll have to save up some foldin' money and give them a jingle.

Ok fellas time to get the ball rolling. We forge today and tomorrow and could have this one in there if we time it right.

Unless you feel strongly otherwise it seems the AK and Mission have the most traction right now, but I also want to be sure not to step on toes of the other build as I believe Capt is building one as well. Feel free to input here.

A) Mission
B) Alaskan
C) Write-in

Happy voting!

A) Mission

A) Mission Knife

Tough decision as there are so many great designs to choose from.

I know that I've been singing the praises of the Mission Knife here (really, what's not to like about it?), and I love the one that James and Grant recently crafted for me, but...variety is the spice of life, and I don't have one of these from BMK, so...

B) Alaskan

Grant,

Chute

Tom Flynn

No question, in my mind's eye:
Scagel Style Hunter!!
Thanks, Capt. Chris
PS: Grant: I'll take this one. Throw it in with my next order...Capt. Chris

Done and set aside Captain.

Thorpe

Alaskan

Mission

Mission

Mission

:-)Rocky

Alaskan

Alaskan (go figure)

Is the Scagel style hunter an option?????

Max,

The handle is a style patterned after Wm Scagel. It's been offered on many different styles of knives. We can consider the handle later. Let's nail down the blade for now.

A) Mission

OK, I don't know anything about the BMK knives, other than what I see on the forum. what blade style is the Scagel hunter then?????

the blade is what I was talking about the first time, I just didn't ask the correct question.

max

Max,

The Captain posted a pic of the hunter style blade. You can put the Scagel handle on most any blade. It's a leather,metal spacer,stag mix; aka "old school".

OK, I am in. HUNTER

this is going to be an experience for me.

max

Good job Max.

Alaskan

Pap

Misson

This is shaping up to a close vote.

Mission

Mission

C) Write-in - Scagel Style Hunter

That's like voting for the Libertarian.

Pap

Hey Pap, does that mean it's the one that you wish would win, even though it doesn't stand a chance?

No comment, my friend. That's like asking if you have quit beating your dog. There's no good answer.

Pap

This will be a superb build!

Jay

Gary Johnson says I should vote for Mission style.
He can be "mainstream" when he needs to be.

As it stands gents I have

Mission - 10 votes
Alaskan - 5 votes
Hunter - written in 3 times (with a clear lean towards a Scagel handle), Chute and Thorpe once.

I'll let the vote stay open another 24 hours just so we make sure everyone gets a say but here's where we are.

A) Mission

Mission

Bring it and vote. Let's build this whatever it is.

Alright fellas, that puts the Mission ahead by 7 votes.

6", 7", 8"?

Sounds like hammermark was the preferential choice as well.

Chime in!

6" Hammered!

7" or 8", hammermark

Hammer-marked

7" or 8"' skull hammermark

8" skulls hammermark!

Tom Flynn

7" Hammered!

Skull & hammer marks


Pap

7" skull hammer marked.

6" Skull hammermark

6" works for me. I cannot imaging needing more.
Thanks, Capt. Chris

As my daughter tells me:
Need has nothing to do with it!

OK David,
I cannot imagine even "wanting" this model longer than 6 inches. If it is to be a fighter, I can see a 7".
Best, Capt. Chris

Ok let's break it down into two votes:

length
A. 6"
B. 7"
C. 8"

finish / grind
1. Standard hammermark (hollow grind)
2. ghost skull (hollow grind)
3. convex

A. 6"

A. 6"

2. ghost skull (hollow grind)

B. 7"

1. Standard hammermark (hollow grind)

A. 6"

2. ghost skull (hollow grind)

Have a good one,

Jay

Got on this late
Mission
Ghost hammered
6"
Sharpie
A Behring Build!!!! Who woulda thought of such a thing!!!!

6"
Ghost hammered works for me.

B
2

A. 6"

2. ghost skull

Any chance of a hammermarked blade with a convex edge??

7" cuz it's in the middle....
hammer that thing!!!
Boy, picking handle material, hilts, and what not is gonna be fun!!!
:-)Rocky

A. 6"

2. ghost skull (hollow grind)

I was already anticipating a Sub Hilt Fighter. I know, I know, anticipation is a one-edged sword??

Voting for 7"
Ghost Skull Hammered
Sub Hilt (oops, not yet)

6"

Skull & hammer

Same for me.

Bigger is better......ask your woman, at least this way you will know if she lies to ya

C. 8"

3. convex

why can't we have a sub hilt....we haven't even gotten that far yet!!!
:-)Rocky

I know where you're going Rocky. We're voting on a Blade length right now. A Sub-hilt changes the entire build.

6 ghost skull

6"...Hammermark.
Thanks, Capt. Chris

A-2

Man, this will turn out tt be an awesome group build!

Grant,

Gotta go big!

C. 8"

finish / grind
2. ghost skull (hollow grind)

Tom Flynn

B, 2

C
2

B. 7"

1. Standard hammermark (hollow grind)

A Mission fighter would be cool.

Alright fellas, by a margin of almost double I've got a 6" ghost skull hammermark Mission getting forged here today.

Time to discuss guard material, and if you want the sub-hilt indicate it after your choice (ie, B-D for nickel with subhilt)

A. Copper
B. Nickel
C. Brass
D. w/ subhilt

Adding a sub-hilt is no problemo!

6" ghost skull, hammer mark- Copper S with sub-hilt

A. Copper

B. Nickel

D. w/ subhilt

B - D

copper with sub hilt please

I've edited this post. Originally I said "What Peter said X2"
But I'm changing my mind on the Sub-hilt. A 6" blade is too short. I received my Chute knife from BMK today. That blade is perfect at 8 1/2" with a Sub-hilt. It made perfect sense to me that a 6" blade would not work well at least to me.
Sooo, I'm still for copper but no Sub-hilt.

A) Copper..."BUT"...(I had to get, at least, one in there)...No sub-hilt. Personally I'm wanting a user and sub hilts are too "one way" for me.
Stay sharp, Capt. Chris
PS: It's refreshing, being on the "other side" of a build!

C D

A.) Copper

How about a double guard rather than a subhilt?

A.) Copper

B. Nickel

no subhilt.

Copper for me.

anybody have a shot of a 6' blade with a sub hilt....it seems a bit much to me....even thought I wanted one(sub hilt that is), I think that a 6' blade is too small....

:-)Rocky

Rocky,

I edited my post from earlier today. What you said makes perfect sense. I explain why in my post. Thanks.

A.) Copper

NO sub hilt. I have no intentions of sticking a knife into anything that would require a sub hilt to remove it, and it severely limits the usefulness of the knife.

Warren,
Thanks, You have some experience with sub hilts that I do not. While I would like to have one, it just maybe best to get with the "gang" at some point, and order one up.
:-)Rocky

Rocky,

In addition, a Sub-hilt would place additional mass and length to this knife. In my mind might be somewhat unbalanced.
As for experience lol. You can't say having 3 knives with sub-hilts counts as experience. I do think they work with fighting knives but some might have a different idea. Thank you for your reply.

You're right. 6" seems too small a blade for a Sub-Hilt.
I will switch my vote to Copper, no Sub-hilt.

Dave,

You've been in the game along time and I value your opinion; thank you.

Copper no sub.......but I like those "S" shaped hilts of ya'll have. Forward top back sweeping bottom!

Copper

Yup

A. Copper

This was a 5" trout and bird from a while back. The 6" Mission is going to have a little more girth to it than what you see here, but in general it sounds like a sub-hilt isn't the general preference for this build, but copper very much is.

Next Vote:

A. Regular guard
B. Tall (aka "double") guard
C. Forward curved guard
D. S-guard
E. Write in

D. S-guard

Dang, Grant, that bird 'n trout has been on my wish list for a while now. Guess I may need to get going on that one.

As for the build, I'll vote for the S guard.

Copper "S" &, hopefully, it won't be too long.
Thanks, Capt. Chris

Copper S guard

Copper fc hilt

Copper S

B. Tall (double).

A. Regular guard

We'll let the vote run through the weekend.

Happy hunting fellas!!!

Copper Scott guard.

Pap

Copper S

D) S guard

I'm really liking the way this build is shaping out. There's a few surprises down the road and Grant will discuss when the time comes.

D. S-guard

A. Regular Guard

B-D for nickel with subhilt

Tom Flynn

By significant margins (again) we're looking at a copper s-guard.

This would be a good time to remind you folks that if you don't end up with "THE" build knife and plan to order one, we can tweak the design to make it exactly what you want if you had one of the differing preferences.

Spacer theme time!

My thought is to have a two-category vote as we just did with the guard. The first option is for the general color theme, and the second will be for an addition of a premium like ox or walrus

A- Maroon
B- Black
C- Green
D- Yellow
E- Ivory Micarta
F- Horshide / Scagel style

1- Musk Ox Boss
2- Fossil Walrus
3- Stabilized Giraffe (black, ocean blue, green and red available)
4- Primo Walnut
5- Primo Ironwood
6- hippo
7- none
8- write in (sorry fellas, narwhal not available for this size build)

F- Horshide / Scagel style
8- 3- Stabilized Giraffe , ocean blue

* F for me, with a write in
* 8- some amber stag!
Thanks, Capt. Chris
PS: Geez Grant: STAG should not have to be a write in...CCS

F, 8

E ivory
4 primo walnut

Pap

just a stag spacer is a rarity in these here parts, but by all means is very much an option!

Thanks Cap

I guess, once again as is often the case, I mis-read...or completely didn't understand...your vote choices. I thought the 1st part was for the "spacers", etc. with the 2nd being the main ingredient on the butt-ass end of the knife. Hell Grant: You "know" what I like! Scagel-styled handle with stag on the end.
Thanks, Capt. Chris
PS: All arrived while I was in Tallahassee and it's all winners! Photos as soon as I get a chance to "breath"!!
CCS

This is a tough choice without knowing what the handle material will be.

Man up and pick some stuff!!! It's more fun this way!

p.s. Grant made me post that...

Heck yeh, what he said

scagel styled handle

F. Horsehide/Scagel Style

5. Primo Ironwood

F, 2

What Gerry just said.

F- Horshide / Scagel style
1- Musk Ox Boss

A-2

F- Horsehide
8 - thin copper
sorta with ya Captain, gonna want crown stag.

F
1

Coming along nicely...

Horsehide/Scagel-styled handle with gnarly fat stag crown on the end

Copper spacers to go with the S-Guard

Tom Flynn

E- Ivory Micarta

5- Primo Ironwood

F
Walrus
Sharpi

Alright I've narrowed this part down. Without a doubt it's going to be a Scagel style handle with mostly horsehide but I'd like to vote again on the accent / special spacer as we had a tie between a big walrus or big ironwood spacer.

We will vote on the butt end here in the next few days, but let's dial these spacers in first.

VOTE:
A. Fossil Walrus
B. Ironwood


As it is:

6" Mission
Ghost Skull Hammermarks
Copper S Guard
Horsehide & __________ spacers

Two of you have been very generous to offer your own materials for the butt on this build. Those will be part of the vote, but anyone else can offer to contribute their own materials as well as it makes this one somewhat more special to truly come from you!

B. Ironwood

A. Fossil

Fossil

Pap

Fossil

Fossil

FWI!!
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: I'll donate some Norewgian Blue Spruce Pine Cone, if the populous deems fit!

A. Fossil Walrus

Both

I like Peter's suggestion of both (fossil walrus and ironwood). Is that doable given the size of the handle?

If I have to pick one, I'd go with...

B. Ironwood.

B. Ironwood

Walrus
Sharpi

A. Fossil Walrus

Tom Flynn

both

A. Fossil Walrus spacer

Both could be done yes

Grant
Now we are talking, both is better

Peter

Hey everyone, you are missing out. you can get the other options anytime. the Captains NBS pine cone is a one time deal.

I vote the NBSPC

The cone is for the rest of the handle I think Max, not just a spacer option. I am pretty sure the spacers will be the IW or the FW or both.
The Captain was probably referring to the bottom half of the handle after the leather.

NOBODY in their right mind uses Pine Cone as a spacer.... NO WAY that comes out looking good....

Sorry Guys, I thought the Capt. was talking about the handle material. I'll drop out of this discussion and build. The BMK handles are to difficult for me to moment. I can't see the visions you guys see.
max

Max,

We're only voting on spacers. Please hang in there. Handles are coming with who knows maybe a surprise?

Yep! THE BIG PART!!
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: It'd look good with FWI, don'tcha' know!

I am all in for James doing the Cap's pine cone for the handle!

Just sayin'

Tom Flynn

A. Fossil Walrus

Max, that's just exactly my pie hole has been shut for a while....It is complicated, as I suspected it would be....
:-)Rocky

A

What ever happens I'd like to see some of Cap's pinecone if not here somewhere. Anyway I find this build pretty fun.

A. Fossil

Fossil is looking good right now; let it ride. So what do think so far? I say way cool, and all up to you.

B ehring
M ission
K nife

Gonna be sweet!!

That's right boys, time to talk butts.

Fossil walrus took the cake on the big extra fancy spacer, and it's going to look gorgeous with the horsehide, copper s-guard and the 6" ghost skull finish.

Warren has put up some FWI to offer for the butt, as well as Chief with some beautiful buckeye, and Captain with the Blue Spruce Pine Cone.

A. Stag
B. Warrens FWI
C. Chief's Buckeye
D. Captain's Cone
E. Write in

D. Captain's Cone .... even though we could have come up with a wayyyyyyyy better name 4 it.

Got my attention!
I am ready to be "coned"

D. Captain's Cone

D

Warrens FWI is "more" than just a kind offering..."BUT"...(I know...I know) FWI...with FWI (Spacer & handle) seems a bit much on the same knife...to me?? Hopefully we can take Warren up on his offer sometime "down the road" if it doesn't get picked for this build. Beautiful piece, as is Chief's Buckeye!
Best, Capt. Chris

C. Chief's Buckeye

Capt!! correct, that was a very nice offering by Warren!!!
:-)Rocky

Grant asked me for a photo. Although I sent it to him, I have no idea if he received it or if he had already left for the day.
Anyway: Your choice of colors...
Thanks, Capt. Chris

If the FWI spacer is white I'm for the red or the green cone.
If it has color I'm for the white.

Thanks to Warren, Chief and Capt. Chris for the more than generous offer of handle materials. All of them are beautiful.

I'm partial to the white cone. I understand that we have a FWI spacer, but I'm thinking that some dark spacers (maybe horsehide) between the walrus spacer and the cone should set it off nicely.

White cone


Pap

White Cone

Have a good evening,

Jay

Damn Chief,that buckeye is like looking at a kaleidoscope, just mesmerizing.
Pine cone is fine with me. White is a cool piece. Thanks Cap.

White is right!

Tom Flynn

C. Chief's Buckeye

A. Stag

Hadn't thought it all out like you did, Good call on the horsehide being between the FWI & the white pine cone.
I'll go with the white.

So far we've got pinecone marginally, but I'm not ready to close this vote yet.

The white would probably pop off well with the ivory and horsehide.

Damn that buckeye is nice but I want to see some pinecone. I like red but any will do.

Warren thanks the FWI is over the top
Pine cone is nice too
But my vote is BUCKEYE
Chief thanks you should hang tuff on it
Sharpi

Sharpi,

Good choice on the Buckeye . Maybe we can discuss again down the road on another build.

Sharpi has to confirm with me before making ANY wood choices...

You got me laughing James.

Sorry James
Been prepping for the storm
Musta been on Hoppes #9
You know
Cleaning guns loading mags
Don't like standin in line
Sharpi

That was a Burly Buckeye

LOL...

Put me down for Warren's FWI

As soon as a decision is made...someone let me know? I've got "Matthew" to deal with, in the meantime.
Best, Capt. Chris

Good luck weathering the storm Capt. and all our Florida, SC, GA and southeastern US friends and colleagues. Be safe.

Ta' hell witit! I went ahead and sent a package to The James Gang this afternoon! God knows what's gonna' happen to the mail "after" the storm!
Best, Capt. Chris

LOL Good call on that!

Once Captain's materials arrive we will put it to a final vote on the color.

So?

Still waiting on those materials, Steve.

I imagine we should see those any day now, though Matthew may be doing all he can to slow that up.

I have not even had a bank open since last Wednesday!! Columbus Day, on top of the storm has played havoc on anything being delivered and banking etc...
Patience everybody. The "James Gang" will have plenty of "choices" should we decide to "go with the cone"!
Best, Capt. Chris

Cone is definitely the voted preference. With your photos Cap we could probably put it to a vote.

Pine cone COLOR
A. Red / maroon
B. White
C. Dark Blue / violet
D. Dark green

Buttcap
A. No
B. Copper (only option as we want it to match the guard and other fittings)

Shape:
A. Crows Beak
B. Straight, cylindrical
C. finger grip
D. Write in


If this is too many options to vote on , we can dial it back to just color for now

B.

Buttcap
A. No....... would take away from the cone

A. Crows beak.

B
B
C


Pap

OK Everybody,
Requested from "The James' Gang" are photos of our handle choices...
* DISCLAIMER!! This photo is from photos on my computer. While some of these examples may, very well, be the exact same pieces that I sent to Montana...they, also, may very well "not be"!
..So: With that being said, here's our choices.
Best, Capt. Chris

Dios Blanco!!!!!

B
A
C

Tom Flynn

I have the pleasure of sharing with all ya'll (A southern plural) an example recently received from "The James' Gang"! 2 being shown with their signature "Crow's Beak" handle shape. 1st is a Randall triathlete in red pine cone. 2nd is a #27 Mini in blue.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: As to my voting for a preference I shall defer so as not to influence it any more than I already have. These 2 handles are shown to showcase the color of this pine cone not to endorse the crow's beak...CCS

In person these 2 are VERY AWESOME! !!!

C
B
C

A
A
C

D. Dark green

A. No

A. Crows Beak

B - White
B - Butt plate not a cap - copper
A - can ya do a plate on a crows beak?

Captain that sheath for the tri is smoking!

The plate or cap will cover the bottom of the cone as it's the part under the leather ...

Is there a English version to what you are trying to say!!!

We have voted on a S hilt, under that will be fossil walrus spacer. Under that is a leather stack. So the next part will be Pine Cone...where stag would normally be on a Scagel handle. If we put pine cone there the bottom of the block is the bottom of the cone. So if we put a cap on it it's gone... so we loose some of the natural beauty of the cone. Captain please post a photo of the Sargeant showing this.

C
B
Beak Copper
Sharpi

Here's what James is talking about...(I think??)
Best, Capt. Chris

Yup...perfect. The bottom part is where the cone originates and is the coolest part...imo... be a shame to just cover it up.4 that we should just use micarta and be done with it.

Color: B (White)
Cap: A (No)
Shape: A (Crow's Beak)

I agree with James, the 'base' of the cone has a unique look to it, and I'd prefer that it not be covered up with a cap or plate.

I get what your saying now......it was the leather comment that threw me in your 1st post.

All hail the glorious butt of pine cone!

C
A
C

B
A
A

B
A
A
Just to be clear, some folks might think Crow's Beak to mean metal butt crows beak. This is shaping a crows beak into the handle. Hope that helps.

See the Triathlete and Mini #27 for examples of a crow's beak handle shape.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Here's..."yet another" one from "The James Gang"!
CCS

Thanks Cap for a pic reference. Just perfect.

My vote is for A, B, C.

A A A

Like he said, A A A

Alright fellas! The vote came to white pine cone, no butt plate- just a pretty crow's beak.

Mission Knife
-Ghost Skull hammermark, hollow grind
-Copper S-Guard
-Horsehide & XL Walrus spacer (dressed up with some copper, black, etc. James is going to make sure she looks good!)
-White Pine Cone Butt, Crow's Beak shape

We just forged a new batch over the last two days, so it'll be about a week or so before we get after production on this one.

With a custom like this, sometimes it is best to see the knife before we choose what we're going to do on leather . If you'd rather vote on it now we can put the ideas together, but either way here's a few of our various options to start getting your wheels turning. It's worth noting that this one will not fit in a pouch with the S-guard. Chief had something to chime in here as well.

Feel free to contribute your ideas as well, photos as always are helpful.


Basketweave tooled high-ride, Rowe's Leather. Can be done in any dye


Border tooled, low-ride / drop loop, Warlander Leather, any dye.


Gator or Caiman high-ride, Warlander Leather. We have numerous options for inlays such as ostrich, elephant hide, caiman, shark, sting ray, beaver, and plenty others we could track down if I'm missing something.




And of course the Magic Man himself, Mudbone.

ALSO, should this first one get a special stamping in the blade among the skulls? "KTF01", as in Knife Talk Forum and serial, or something else...? We can always have letters or numbers tooled into the sheath too.

It's MONDAY!!!!!!

No James, it's Friday and I like Fridays much better than Mondays but whatever you prefer is cool by me.

Back to the build ..... I am a big fan of the Mudbone sheaths so that will be my preference. I don't think there's much of a need to wait if it's to be a Mud sheath but no real harm in waiting either. I am also very much in favor of some special stamping on the blade and/or sheath to reflect that this is a KTF build.

Me too on both the serial number and a Mudbone sheath. Maybe some ideas on what Muddy could engrave.

Pap

Mudbone all the way. He'd come up with something off the chart.

I'll get on board for both the special blade numbering/etching and the Mudbone sheath.

I agree with Warren...we are sure to see something particularly striking from Mudbone for the very first BMK KTF build. His work is so striking...painting with leather.

And Jim, I also am a MUCH bigger fan of Fridays than Mondays!

Friday on my mind...enjoy the weekend all.

Knowing Mud he'd probably carve pinecones in to the leather to go along with the handle theme. Lol!

Cheers!!! Time for a cold one (or two or three ...)

I'm for special stamping "KTF 01" or Chief! Maybe BB 01 = Behring Build 01 or Chief! I'm liking the Chief idea!
Definitely A Mudbone sheath! I agree about picking a idea for Mud to work his magic on.
Or let the winner pick.

I am in favor of all the above post, except Jim's. I have had enough of cold ones to last a life time.

Uhhhh side bar,

What is this and how come it's not in the archives?
I would have this in copper if it was on the site.
Now Grant are you holding out on us???

It's in Archives under Fighters... page 2... and yes it NEEDS Copper!!!!

I'm with ya' Sidney...No cold ones for me either.
Chief: You're reading my mind, Bro.
Grant: Not to paddle upstream but "pine cones" on one of Roger's sheath doesn't really wind my watch....On the other hand: If we are building a fighter with a "Skull-marked" blade stamp, what the hell's wrong with the Mudbone sheath you have pictured,,,with the "skull" on it?
I was not in favor of the stamp but, if we're using it, that Mudbone sheath makes perfect sense! I also like the Warlander's as well.
As to a serial number: I would rather opt out if I were to win. KTF #1 makes sense to all of "us"...but what about down the road? AND: Would #2 be less significant? When I do a limited run of...say...25 knives, I number them all "1 of 25". It makes the last as good as the first and nobody's knife is worth more, worth less, less significant or more significant.
I would propose letting the winner choose that option..."BUT"...( I know) I'm a team player and will go along with everyone else! It's going to be special to me, anyway you swing it!
Best, Capt. Chris

Good points Cap and I agree, let the winner have some final say so on their final options. Also, I'm thinking that there may be some "copies" made for a few folks on this forum.

Pap

Got to be a Mudbone! I would go for "KTFBM01"

I would stamp this one only on the blade. Then not stamp anymore. Just to commemorate the 1st build.

I'm with cap on the skull sheath.

Mudbone rocks!

I am with the Cap'n and Chief on the sheath. I really think this needs something besides Pine Cone. I think stag or some kind of mammoth would suit this build.JMO

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone who has objections to alcoholic beverages. That's one reason why I said cold "one" to leave the choice to the drinker.

Gents we need to lock down the stamp before we go into production as this is done when we forge and cannot be done later.

A. YES
B. NO

If you vote yes, please include what you would like us to stamp in.

I'm not a big fan of one build being "better"...More important...Special, etc., etc..."B" for me.
Thanks, Capt. Chris

B.

Perhaps the sheath could carry the special designation...

Mudbone could definitely make that happen.

What the heck, I'm voting A. If others have a concern about the blade stamp then I will get outvoted and that'll be just fine. It will be a fantastic build regardless. (Wish I could say the same about the outcome of the Presidential election.)

Any Studebaker Springs left? Stamp a 6 point elk horn.

Pap

B. NO

A. YES

No

No special stamp, not necessary.

I thought you were talking about mean women!!!
I only had 1 "cold one" & she is the reason that I tolerate lawyers!

Send me her name. I may need her for future reference. May I use your name for a discount, or can I just add it to your tab?

LOL now that's funny!!! The thought of owing her and not paying!!!

A. Yes.

I agree with Scott's suggestion as to the stamping/etching (KTFBM01).

This is an interesting discussion so far. Having cast my "yes" vote, in an effort to understand the 'flip side of the coin' I'd like to pose a general question to those "no" voters who have built a knife here previously...

I've only been involved in the last two RMK builds (including the current one). There was no special etching or marking on those knives or sheaths (at least so far as the current build continues). Have ANY of the RMK builds here on KTF had a special blade etching (or other marking) commemorating its origin here? If not, why not? Was a conscious decision made not to do so, or was it a matter of the builders/designers/ voters not wanting to use 1/5 options on a blade etch, or was there some other reason? If the reason is lack of available options, do you think that a blade etch would have been adopted if an option to do so had been available at the end of the RMK build?

There doesn't seem to be a general aversion to blade etchings on RMKs given the etching of various dealer specials, limited editions and other numbered edition knives.

If the concern is that doing so will make this build something different from the prior builds, well...it is. That's not to say it's better, or cooler, or more special, or more desirable, than other builds...just different.

The reality is that many of the 'rules' that apply to an RMK build (available blade designs, handle materials, handle configurations, spacers, guard/cap materials, total number of options, sheath choices, etc.) pretty much do NOT apply here. With this build, it seems that the only restrictions are our imaginations and what Grant and James are willing to build (or put up with from us).

I am not always a fan of 'numbered' editions, but this IS the first BMK KTF build and I believe that it should be memorialized in some fashion.

Sorry for the rambling, but it's fairly late after an long day. I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts.

Thanks.

Bob

A thought. ..
Instead of a stamp would a COA identify the knife for documentation as a 1st knife build? Pics on a COA would work.

With regard to the Randalls built on the Randall Main Forum...I have said it before and will say it now: "I don't care what we build". In the past, there has never been a discussion about a special blade etching. Let me give you a splendid example of why I don't care for it on this (Behring) particular build.
Many here remember the old RKS (Randall Knife Society). The RKS offered 5 "club" knives with all of them being serial numbered and etched at the Randall shop. Sounds nice...right? Well: The first couple (Later the Combat Companion & Denmark Special) simply had a serial number. The club knives thereafter had a serial number, with the #'s being drawn and randomly sent out...(+)...the club members RKS number! (Huh?) It was the worst decision (In my...and only my opinion) Rhett ever made. I think it has created more confusion, especially in the secondary market, than no number at all. Etching something (or stamping, in the case of this Behring build) "KTF-BMK". etc. will be confusing a few years down the road as well.
Again: Just my opinion and, thank God, I am only one voice on this vote. I tell everyone on the Randall forum builds to vote..."AND"...argue their case. That's what I am doing...I think. I would be proud to own this Mission knife,,,"BUT",,,(Ahh: There, I got that word in),,,I would prefer no confusing (or not) extra blade stamps.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Below is an example of an RKS "3rd" edition club knife (Later to become the Trailblazer) with it's "serial number"??
CCS

For whatever it's worth, my preference for some type of stamping or other identification is to make the build knife "special" and identifiable as a build knife. That's a little less important I think with a BMK as opposed to an RMK since all BMK's are different so maybe a COA is fine but I still like the idea of "something" to indicate that it's a build knife. Even if it's just a special emblem of some type. And if it creates confusion years down the road well that'll give our kids something to debate on the forum the way we debate the many Randall mysteries that are out there. But, like I said earlier, it's not a huge big deal to me so whatever folks want is great.

How about a graphic symbol?
I don't think a number adds or takes away any particular value.

Jim no offence taken. It's all good.

I was thinking more of a special emblem or stamp rather than a number. This stamp would indicate it was the first of that build as I suspect some would want a copy of whatever we come up with as the final build.

Pap

Capt., I certainly understand your feelings on the question, and you persuasively argue your position with passion, eloquence and courtesy.

I agree that the blade numbers etched on the RKS knives are indeed wickedly confusing, especially to a new RMK collector, and that the dual numbering system was probably not the best way to go, especially to avoid confusion down the road.

I've read the RKS newsletters on the club knives, so I understand what the numbers represent. For club knives with two low numbers, however, I can never seem to recall which number is for the knife and which is for the original buyer's RKS membership. And then, to add to the confusion, there are apparently some later RKS knives with only one number (as per the newsletters, it seems that the original buyer had the option to not include his RKS membership number on the blade). Good luck figuring that one out without doing a bunch of research (or asking the experts here).

I would distinguish the RKS etchings from the currently proposed BMK stamp, though, as we are only discussing one unique knife rather than a limited edition or numbered series of knives. As they say in Highlander...There can be only one!

Having said that, and while conceding the strength of Capt.'s position, I'd still prefer to see a blade stamp commemorating this as the first BMK forum build.

Some of the other suggestions...a COA, a special sheath stamp, a unique spacer arrangement, are all excellent ideas. In theory, any of these would work to distinguish THIS knife from any later orders of 'the KTF build knife'. The problem with something not 'on' the knife (like a COA), however, is that it has a tendency to get lost or separated from the knife. I'm pretty careful with paperwork, but sooner or later, some things gets misplaced, misfiled or just plain lost.

Thanks for listening. And if I'm outvoted here...it's all good. My tastes in designing the forum build knives seem to run counter to the majority on many of the design elements, but I'm still having fun, learning a great deal, and the Capt. is correct...this will be a beautiful knife that its new owner will be proud to have.

Bob

Thanks Sidney. :-)

Well....Whatever we're gonna' do, we need to do it! We're burnin' daylight!
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: It's a warm and fuzzy feeling, being able to burn this fire under someone "else's" feet!...CCS

BMK 1 and the Skull Mudbone sheath! It is the first BMK Build

Tom Flynn

Bob my take on why it isn't done on the Randall builds is because it eats a option.
With only 5 options available depending on the knife it gets hard to lose a option for lettering.
that won't be the case here.

I vote that it be left to the winner.
Just make sure that you tell Grant what ya want. James doesn't write stuff down, & if he does he loses it LOL!

James is probably saying what you say, "It will have to wait I'm going hunting"!.........At least you & Grant make a kill when you go!

Gents, to provide a bit of clarity here I am not talking about having a special logo stamp made. These cost around $250 and might be a little excessive for a limited run. We've got alphabet and number stamps available, and they're punched by hand when we forge.

With that being said, if there's one thing my youth has taught me it's that I should have listened to the guy who knew what he was talking about. In this case, this isn't Captain's first rodeo. Some of you may want to order slight variations from the final decided model, and this will make the stamps confusing almost certainly as the handles could vary. I like the idea of a C of A because it allows for more than 5-6 characters, but up to a full page of explanation as necessary- and we don't charge anything for C of A's either.

It is yours and we'll make it the way you want it, but simplicity is blissful.

^^^^AGREED ^^^^

I think Chief's idea, while it probably makes sense to him, doesn't to me. If we offered a stamping option, to the preference of the winner..."How's ya' gonna' do dat"? (Trying to put it Cajun logo for the Louisiana boy) Meaning: How are you going to do that "after" you forge. The only way to row, using Chief's logic (A contradiction in terms) is to wait until a winner if decided to forge the fool thing.
Compromise, while dreaded in many cases, may win the day. With a COA the knife can be completed "NOW" and the winner's option carried out..."LATER"!
Just sayin', Capt. Chris

And Grant has said the sheath could carry "special" designation as well... if desired.

Yep, I like the idea of no stamp on the knife but a stamp on the sheath.

Pap

B. No.

Since these are "design by committee", including this stamp, the whole "sequence the builds" thought goes out the window when "the committee" (a.k.a. the forum) decides to not do the stamp in a future build.

So for that reason, I vote "B. Don't bother."

If BM threw down and said "from now on, forum-design knives will be stamped as such" then I'd agree that it would be a good idea. Otherwise, it's a neat thought that'll wear off soon.

Sigh since the Captain is going to be all logical......I'll vote no!

It's rare...but it happens.
Best, Capt. Chris

Looks like it's a no on the blade stamp. So my vote is lets move it along and git 'r done. I've never been one to stand in the way of progress don't ya know.

I vote no also.

Ok fellas, let's call it a no-go on this stamp.

She goes into the next forge!

Sheath next?

We can take this to a vote now, or see how it finishes. The Mudbone idea sounds to draw the most attention.

Agreed. Let's ask the members what they think?

Mudbone sheath!!

Mudbone sheath!!

One of Roger's sheath with a "skull" or "pirate" theme!
Best, Capt. Chris

So one question, does Mudbone ever do an inlay with an exotic and also do his magical scribing? Reason I ask, I have some really nice tanned beaver tail that I would donate for this build.

Pap

Skull Mudbone sheath!

Tom Flynn

Mudbone with something really threatening on it like a clown.

Mudbone sheath will be fine.

Rather than a skull alone, I'd suggest a skeletal warrior wielding a sword (or the knife; think one of the 'Children of the Hydra's Teeth' from the final combat sequence in Ray Harryhausen's "Jason & The Argonauts"; still my favorite skeletal warrior battle scene of all time).

Mudbone sheath.

Skeletal Warriors? Really? I'll pass.
Capt. Chris

Maybe we could get Edward Scissorhands on a sheath...????

Not to sidetrack this build, James...but I think you're on the edge of cutting technology with that suggestion! Hopefully, we can move on.
Best, Capt. Chris

So, just to be clear...

A skull on the sheath is OK; a pirate image (maybe a skull and cross bones?) is OK; but a skeleton, not so much.

Not sure I'm seeing the design distinction that's being drawn there, since we seem to be talking variations on a theme, but that's fine.

No worries...I will take your advice and move on. Enjoy the rest of the build.

I don't blame ya' Bob. I didn't want the "skull-stamped" blade to begin with..."BUT"...(There I go again)...Skulls and Pirates "are real"! I wasn't talkin' some Johnny Depp, broken compass navigatin', fictional myth. I was speaking of something, strictly skull- related. A nice 3-master, etc...
Best, Capt. Chris

Personally, I would just leave it to the Mud Man to come up with something he thinks fits the style of the knife. Won't suck I'm sure. By the way Bob, I agree with you on that that skeleton scene -- still one of the best even if it is old tech. Good stuff.

LOL I see those charm school lesson are earning big dividends!!!

Looks like we're stuck in the mud here (pun intended). Someone needs to pull us out and get us goin' again.

Don't look at me...it ain't "my build"! I'm all-in for letting Roger deal with the sheath. He won't disappoint!
Best, Capt. Chris

Captain has a point. Mudbone is a artist. He'll deliver something outrageous.

LOL was scared that I would win something that ya'll designed so I ordered mine yesterday!
We all want something different so I suggest we stick with who is gonna make it. Mudbone design, Rowe Or Warlander exotic.
Winner can work with Mudbone on it if he wins the vote.

To bad color isn't a option.

Don't tell me you're going Trick-or-treat again this year?

Chief,

Great skull! Warren beat me to it though; he's quick!

Tom Flynn

LOL he's just jealous cause I have the teeth for it.

So now I have partner who knows the deal. Thanks Tom.

We're not stuck fellas.

The knife will go into the forge here no later than Tuesday and will take about a week to complete.

Mudbone has been established as the obvious decision for this project, so while we're in production I'm going to give him a call and see if I can't roll any ideas out of him. We can vote on the skull, his choice for this build, the donated beavertail inlay, or a write in option. But I would like to talk to him first before we vote so there is a little more direction.

This one is going to be NUTS!

Oh my getting closer on this build. I loved that Jason and the Argonauts movie. Saw it in Reno while my parents gambled. Mudbone sheath will be great what ever is decided.

Glad to hear we're not stuck and that we have a Plan. Carry on men. ;-)

what???

What is up? I need a new knife.

We have to make it gentleman... working on it!

Steven- I'm listing a bunch more on our website today if you're in a pinch.

I sent you all a Priority envelope that you should receive tomorrow. A couple of nice tanned beaver tail skins.

Pap

Nothin' better then tanned Beaver!
Thanks, Capt. Chris

Careful there Captain Trump.

Capt. Chris Since this is a family forum....I'm just going to leave it with a wholehearted agreement!

Now THAT'S funny.

And even untanned Beaver t'aint bad. I'd love a sheath size piece Pap.....if'n you got airy left??

Man that Pappy is a tough act to follow!!! I mean who gives away any tanned beaver much less 2!!!!
Now I now where that "I wanna be like Mike" saying came from!!!

I have a good source for them and they save me only the finest and largest. I sent some to Greg Gutcher a few years ago right after the fire, and he told me he has never seen such quality skins from beaver tails. It's a great North American hide that is very unusual. Most people think it is some sort of snake skin. Even wildlife experts don't guess what it is. Not only are they unusual but very tough skin and very hard to scratch or make a mark.

Pap

Sharing IS caring Pappy...

Hello fella's... here is a sneak peak at the build in progress... the blade looks KILLER!!!

Huh, thought I used to get the inside scoop. Lol!
Nice blade. Can’t wait to see progress.

I stopped by and snapped that, they did not see.

Uh huh, you just happened to stop bye. While you were there did you happen to see anything with my name on it?

yes actually, they were just dedicating the W.P. FWI Cafe' in your name/honor. Congrats buddy!

Damn, I missed the ribbon cutting ceremony. That's funny James. Sorry, I'm in Ft.Lauderdale this week at the I needed a vacation dedication.

Grant saved you some cake.

Funny stuff

Dang James- you came through so quickly I barely even noticed you were around!

I am a Ninja in my spare time...

are we building a knife???
:-)Rocky

You guys made it so eloquent. Didn't sound like that from one of my first GF's

Great stuff.

Very nice. Is it mine yet?

So when might we be picking numbers? No hurry, just wondering.

We will pick numbers here when the knife is done. The batch is another large one, but it could be ground by Friday or Monday with photos.

Sounds good. Thanks Grant

It would be appropriate to start associating numbers with names.

Let's try numbers 1-50, so please reply with your name and number choice and be sure to read through the replies to see if yours has been taken already. If you do end up choosing a number already selected I'll choose another one for you. Final results will be posted prior to drawing, and when it is time to do so I will let you all know a bit in advance. I will generate the random drawing via Google as recommended by Captain. Gonna be fun!

GO!

James Caruso 22

44

Pap

27

14

45

No fair! I was "on the road", doing all things Randall, and James got my number 22! Oh well: I'll just have to live with the disappointment! So:....Here goes:
........................#17.......................
Best, Capt. Chris

Tom Flynn 15

Gerry Fernandez #18

Rob Windsor 23

33 please

35

I'd better win! Took 15 minutes to find cell service & the specks are bitting

I would have just entered for ya Chief!

39

Progress report.

I am "officially" dubbing this beauty: "The Forum Fighter"!
Love it, Capt. Chris

I'm almost tempted to ask if I'm allowed a number! This one is going to be incredible

I'll answer..."NO"...You're not! There...Wasn't that better?
It's going to be our Forum Fighter!
Best, Capt. Chris

This is going to look real nice sitting next to his cousin...

30 please
Sharpi

#6

Have a good evening,

Jay

8....sorry guys....
:-)Rocky

Wiki Leaks has already determined that Rocky is the winner, LOL

Looks awesome.

13...it's got to be lucky sometime.

68 for George

Its currently only 1-50 sir.

Yo Wally get you a number!

Ronnie Darby
24

hah.

last but not least number 50.

7 Sidney Redford. I am not sure if I even get to pick?

Of course you do!!!!

I'm in !

12 if taken, then
13 if taken, then
21 if taken, then
31

Thanks!!!

12 is open!

12 it is, then!

you just want to get closer to the winner....#8....
:-)R0cky

It'll be complete tomorrow fellas- just need to polish and sharpen the blade. Make sure to get those numbers in!!!

"Only one thing in the world could've dragged me away from the soft glow of electric sex gleaming in the window."

NOW it was serious. A double-dog-dare. What else was there but a "triple dare you"? And then, the coup de grace of all dares, the sinister triple-dog-dare.

One hellova build guys. A fine job of putting it all together.

Just gorgeous. Awesome work as usual. A masterpiece for the first BMK Forum build.

Remember folks you can order or create your own version of this knife, I ordered mine & thanks to Grant showing the fighter with the skull sheath earlier in the build I had to get that one as well
Way to go Grant!

I don't know about the triple dog dare but I do know about the double dog addiction -- RMK and BMK. But hey, all it takes is money to feed the beasts, right?

Should I wait through the weekend to allow for any and all a chance at a number? I don't know how frequently everyone checks in on the forum and I would hate to leave anyone out....

Yeah... Post the numbers on Monday.
That gives everyone plenty of time.

Maybe someone could get a count of how many haven't voted.

Looks like 8, but that's pretty normal. Not everyone wants in at the end.

#1)-
#2)-
#3)-
#4)-
#5)-
#6)- JayG
#7)- Sidney Redford
#8)- theValueman
#9)-
#10)
#11)-
#12)- Wally
#13)- Rfcarlin
#14)- JimE
#15)- GCTom41
#16)-
#17)- Captain Chris
#18)- Str8shuutr45
#19)
#20)-
#21)-
#22)- RamkingJC
#23)- Windsor
#24)- Ronnie
#25)-
#26)-
#27)- Crazy Cajun
#28)-
#29)-
#30)- Sharpi
#31)-
#32)-
#33)- Peter Kaufman
#34)-
#35)- Cheif
#36)-
#37)-
#38)-
#39)- Warren
#40)-
#41)-
#42)-
#43)-
#44)- Pappy
#45)- Eric
#46)- Dirty H2O
#47)-
#48)- GHD
#49)-
#50)- Steven

Here she is my good men!

6 1/2" Blade
11 1/2" OAl
Ready for some Mudbone TLC

Get those numbers in and have a great weekend!

It turned out great. Excellent job on that baby.

It's a beauty!

#48 if it's still open.

Old school meets new school, awesome turnout.

Yes surrrr... you are in on 48

Ahh Geeez!!! What a beauty!

I'll just go ahead and take the remaining unoccupied numbers.

How about, since Veterans Day is next week the 20 of us that have voted get a chance to buy a second Number to choose for like $10. We can give that money to Captain Chris to donate to the Veterans society he had us donate to last year in the Raffle for the re handled Marbles knife.

There are 30 open slots, so if we each get 1 extra pick at $10 then we get better odds and a VERY worthy cause would get a little extra money to help out...

Just a suggestion, but 1 extra # each seems the fairest way to do it so all have an equal chance. It would be up to Grant to green light this option as it's HIS build and Capt. to agree to handle the extra funds.

thoughts...????

http://www.knifetalkforums.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=139848&page=1

This should be the link for what I was referring to.

I say....if there is no hit the first time around....then we "shorten" the field, to the exact number of entrants, and do it again...I'll be glad to take a random number.....it's random anyway...
:-)Rocky
oh, damn beautiful knife!!!

I'll take two more numbers fir those who gave
$20 over the top
Sharpi

Sounds like a great idea to me James. I'm in if that's the way it goes. I don't care what everybody else says about you, I think you're a righteous dude.

LOL He doesn't care what we think either!

Donate to vets? Count me in.

I appreciate all the interest in augmenting this build..."BUT"...(You "know" there was a "but" coming)...this is The James' Gang 1st shot at this. I think we can certainly do something like ya'll are suggesting but this may not be the best time or the appropriate place. RKCC & RKCA has their own forum and we can raise funds over there also.
Just sayin'...Capt. Chris
PS: ..."&" MOST IMPORTANT...Helluva' knife boys! Well done!
Thanks, Capt. Chris

Can I still get #46 as the winner fellas? If so, make it happen Brother!

Still having Miss Gail pick for ya?

Done Scott!!!

For the Golden sake of simplicity we're going to skip that this time around. I don't want to start getting wires crossed and wondering if all have paid, etc... If a non selected number is drawn I'll go ahead run it again until we have a winner.

Let's shoot for Monday!

Grant, Keep drawing until #45 comes up! Monday will do.

I'm late to the party and new to the forum, but from what I can gather we pay $10 to get a shot at a random number drawing that wins this knife, the proceeds going to vets. Do I have all that right?

For the benefit of newbies like me... how/whom do we pay?

Oh, and I'll take #10 if it's still open. Mark Dixon.

Welcome to the forum Mark.
The way the builds work is we all give input on options and such and vote along the way. At the end a random number is drawn and that person wins the right to buy the knife or pass it along. The key is participating and voting along the way . That's how we earn the # we choose. We learn about the knives and what looks and works best.

The $10 idea was just an idea for getting extra #'s and helping folks. We will have a raffle style for that in the Randall forum very soon.

Got it. Thanks for explaining!

Clearly, someone else deserves #10 then, but I'll keep eye out in the future.

Any time Mark.
There is a build just underway in the Randall section. A 6 week build titled Woodpecker lips build. .. You should absolutely jump in on that as it just started and there will be much to be gained from that 1.

I'm gonna win, I mean hey the Cubs won the world series.
I'm due!

Well I'd take odds on you winning this build before you'd move to Chicago unless Rocky wins this one again. LOL

Whether you participated in the voting or not- all are welcome to place an order for another one just like the original or modified to your specifications.

Drawing will take place here in a few hours !

-GC

Draw you varmit! Cowboy humor.

Before I do so, just wanted to touch base on the pricing.

Chief has offered to pay the upgrade fees for the Mudbone sheath, so this first one is going to be $675 shipped. Future orders with the exact same trim and fittings are going to be $775 if you want the Mudbone sheath- unless you can convince Chief to pay for your sheath, too

If your number is drawn and you cannot immediately pay, we will make sure you are not left in the dust as we can set up an installment plan that works for you.

Thank you VERY much Chief... that was most generous of you!!!

Thank you also BMK, ya'll did an amazing job on this one.... just like ALWAYS!

Can Mudbone use one of the Beaver tails skins on this project or not?

Pap

Well James like us old timers say "the next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing", at least this way I get to play!
Same reason Pappy donated the skins, & the Captain donated the pine cone, it's more fun playing with top shelf people!
Be nice for whomever wins, but it was great getting to play no matter who gets it.

I would like for the winner to be the final decider on how the sheath looks. I'll draw here in a few, and the lucky winner will call this final shot. Each is entitled to his own leather selection if orders are taken.

Let the countdown begin!

AGREED

That is the fairest and best way to do it... good call Grant

OHHHH Great! we're gonna be FAIR! I'll never win now!

Well my boys if I had to guess, this one will likely end up with a beavertail inlaid Mudbone as our winner is PAP with #44!

Just wanted to go on the record as having said how much fun we had with this one! You all are a real pleasure, and the collaborative efforts have been enjoyable. If your number wasn't drawn and you want to place an order just let me know and it will be in the next forge.

YESSSSS!!!!!!!

Pappy Congrats sirrrrr. You have earned this in SOOO many ways.

Congrats Pap, Beaver tail will look great with this rig.

Good deal! Congratulations Mike. Use it well!
Stay sharp, Capt. Chris

Congratulations Mike

Thanks James, Grant and crew for the build and Chief for the sheath upgrade

Very cool build even if there was no ironwood

Peter

Congratulations Pappy! Thank you again for donating the beavertail to the build - look forward to seeing a picture of the completed sheath!

Have a good week fellas,

Jay

Congratulations Pappy; well deserved. This was a fun build. Thanks also to BMK for making this happen.

Good job. Super fun build. Lets do it again soon.

My stars, I was actually emailing Grant about the Beaver tails when he told me I won. Far out!! He had sent me a picture of the final build and it is truly awesome. Thanks to everyone for your participation and kind words. God bless.

Pap

Congrats Mike. Thanks to all for a great build. This one will be hard to beat but I'm hoping we will try sooner rather than later.

sweet.

What is the appropriate amount of time to space out these builds? I mean.... we forge about once a week so we're always ready for the next one.

Should we wait until December, or the New Year? Whatever is standard and appropriate works for us.

-GC

They tend to roll over pretty fast, but they do not wrap up this fast either... so maybe we start 1 up beginning of December...

Here's what it looks like.

Pap

IMO quarterly is good.

Sexy looking good get Pappy!

Way to go Pap.....Great looking knife....& the Beaver will look outstanding!

The beaver really looks good with that knife. Looking forward to seeing the total package when done.

On the timing, for whatever it's worth, quarterly seems about right to me.

Happy Pappy !

Congrats Pappy! A wonderful knife. Came together really well. Can't wait to see the sheath once it's done.

Thanks to James and Grant for another beautifully realized work of art.

And thanks to all the "builders" for their time, wisdom and thoughtfulness.

Congrats Pappy!

Pappy,
I just cannot understand how you beat me out!!!
I guess it had to happen!!!
Congratulations!!!
:-)Rocky

Because they were inspired by this build.........& because I'm not very patient or decisive. Plus I new I wouldn't win
I ordered the fighter that the Captain & I were drooling over & because I couldn't make up my mind the one we built in buckeye with a few tweaks.
Both will go to Mudbone & the buckeye to get checkered as well. So where's ya'lls lol!!!

That buckeye checkered will be OUT OF CONTROLLLLL!!!!!!

Actually...for "me"...I think the beauty of that buckeye will be diminished by checkering. The "burls-n-swirls" will get a little "lost".
Best, Capt. Chris

Yeah I debated it a bit.......and then I got to where I want to see it for myself.

Beautiful pair Chief and well played. Mud will finish-em off.
Don't let the Captain talk you out if it, LOL.

LOL and deny him the chance to say I told ya not to do it!!!

Karma! Pappy, Good # pick and well deserved! Now use it and send action shots!

Good for you Pap, that a sweet knife and a good looking beaver you got there.

A great looking pair of knives Chief.

Congratulations Pappy!
Great looking knives, Chief!
And...
I was inspired to ask Cap'n Chris to work on a combined project of Randall and Behring!
I will talk to him in Tulsa, if I can get a moment of his time

Chief those look great! I want to see the checkering, I think it will look cool and not hurt the look at all. But will good either way.

Thanks guys I'm curious how it will look also.

Compared to Chief I'm way behind here (isn't everybody?) but I couldn't resist and now have a variation of the build knife in the works. CA burl redwood handle with a Bison horn spacer. Mudbone sheath of course but no skeletons or pirate ships. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to it. Will post pics when available.

P.S. -- Thanks Chief for paying for the Mudbone upgrade. That's very nice of you.

Capt. said..."No...wait...don't tell me.... a Muppet scene for the Mudbone??"

Close -- Zombie muppets.

My pleasure people, just wanted the 1st to have all the bells & whistles.

As for my Mudbone sheathes one I asked for a buffalo on it.
The other Grant & Mudbone will decide, I like turning Mudbone loose.

Pappy,

Love the knife and that sheath will be incredible with the Beav!

Thanks to BMK for the first I hope of many builds!

Tom Flynn

And here we have a few shots of my Checkered Buck eye.
And the survey said? Ya can't hurt my feelings cause I don't have any. What ya'll think?

Looks like a winner from my view. It's something different and way cool. So what's not to like bro?

That checkering really pops.I expect it would feel good too. Nice choice.Tom

Wowza!!

Pap

Thanks Guys! Good to see ya posting Tom hope you and yours are doing well!

wOw ! WooHoo that's a beauty!

Looks like you spent a good amount of money to hide some nice buckeye to me. Sorry, Bro but I would not have done it.
Best, Capt. Chris

You have a point Captain, but I could build a case for it either way.
I'm looking forward to seeing it in the flesh!
Side by side as best I can.

Looks great Chief!!!

I like it better without the checkering but looks great either way. Nice knife.

Chief,

Feels good, looks good and you're happy! All is right in the world.

Tom Flynn

Thanks Guys Now I have to find another piece(s) for the other knives that I'm wanting.
Thanks to Wally & Tom I have more that I want. In the case of Tom's I am probably SOL. That cross cut mammoth ivory will be almost impossible to find!
Thank goodness Wally's is the blade that I'm after!

Here's the end result with the Mudbone sheath and beaver tail insert. Not in my hands yet,but close.

Pap

Yepppp.... that does NOT suck!!!!
Good for you Pappy, couldn't have gone to a better guy!

Awesome very sexy!

Mudbone nailed that sheath. The whole package came out great. Good luck Pappy.

Great combo Pappy.

Beautimous maximus !

great set up!!!
:-)Rocky

Very nice Pap
Congratulations again

Peter

a significantly better group of photos are coming after the final polish today

Looks good can't wait for more pictures.

Here are the latest pictures from Grant. Amazing.

Pap

SO happy for you Pappy!!!!


Great work BMK and Mudbone!!!!

wOw !! White pine. Stunning!

Show Stopper!!!!!

That is sweet. I need a pinecone BMK.

Pap & James Gang!!!

I'm loving the Beav too. Would've never thought of a white pine cone Scagel; it works! Cap's vision and James skills, what a pair. Great collaboration, thanks! It was fun to watch and the knife went to a good man.

Tom Flynn

Truly outstanding, complete package......couldn't have wound up in any better home, Pappy. Now that is a Sunday-go-to-meeting, too nice to NOT be seen knife AND sheath!!

I apologize for not responding much sooner to this thread but I have been fighting the Mother-Virus for 17 days now! (Yuck!)...Right? I want to thank BMK for this fantastic build and applaud it's outcome!
Well done!
Capt. Chris

We could not be more pleased ourselves! The knife is truly echelon, and Mudbone knows exactly how to dress one in leather.

Looking forward to the next one!

I was finally able to get up to Garden Valley and collect my mail, which included the package from The James Gang. I'm here to tell you that this first build is awesome indeed. The pictures don't do justice to it. A big knife and the Mudbone is to die for. Thanks to everyone for the build incentive and to Behring Made for the excellent workmanship.

Pap

Hats are off to you Mike!! Congratulations and enjoy that thing

Build knife variation due to arrive soon. CA redwood burl with Bison spacer. Mudbone sheath.

Great looking knife.

Jim

BMK and Mud magic. Super duo!

Yep! That's a keeper! Very nicely packaged!

You bet, that is a super nice modified version. The input on this build was out of sight.

Pap

Thanks guys. Can't wait to get it in hand. BMK continues to impress and Mudbone just knocks it out of the park.

Sexy! I like the Bison sheath, Your idea?

Just the general concept not the specifics.

I did find it amusing that the two of you requested Bison on your Forum Fighters. Mudbone's b-side details are just incredible.

LOL I thought so as well, Great Minds and all that.
Wellll maybe not me as much.

Uhhhh I can buy ya'll a calendar if it'll help!!!
Sorry this is me trying to be subtle.

I am thinking something patriotic R/W/B with a nice T-shaped full tang!

Tom Flynn

Time for another build yet? Let's get started, even if just on our own...
Fighter?
Hunter ?
Skinner?
For show?
For use?

C'mon folks

Build em all Wally one at a time

I'm in for a fighter or a hunter.
Maybe a double edge on the fighter.

Hunter/skinner, for use, would be cool.

I'd like to see a special and big utilitarian knife, a fighter, stilleto, or a big ass camp knife like James sports in his catologue.

If a fighter is the direction we're headed, consider a Chute blade. Never gave it look until GCTom posted one of his. This is one cool blade, damn sharp too.

Here's another look with a shorter blade.

I like the blade shape. I don't have one like that either.

Wally,

It doesn't suck, trust me and I think it would be up your alley given the stiletto point.

True, Warren, I'm a sucker for stilettos. I do have a couple of model 1s. I'm very open to an aesthetically pleasing design. The chute looks good. An 8 or 9 inch chute, is it possible? What's everyone else think?

Love this idea. Most blades I've seen are in the 5-7 inch range. Who said you can't make it bigger?

I'm down for a build.

I'm thinking either a "big ass camp knife" (hat tip to Wally) or a 4" (give or take) skinner.

top edge sharp?

Love that blade shape in the shorter version.

Of course it is!

What say, we propose the idea for starting another build to the gang, Monday, and start from the top !

Great idea.