Knife Of The Week Model 14

Here's a Model 14 that has been posted before. It was this year's Christmas knife. This is an example of a 14 after Silver Knife got his extremely talented hands on it. Once again, well done, Doug.
Kevin

This Model 14 came in last week. It will be one of this year's Christmas knives. It's a beautiful example of Randall craftsmanship. Fantastic carbon blade, nickel silver double hilt, green micarta handle.
Kevin

Here's my #14 Attack, with stainless steel blade, Forward Curved Nickel Silver Double hilt (oblong), and Single Finger Grip handle made of Torquiose/Black Micarta:

...Okay here's my RMK #14, a great example of the quality of the work coming out of the shop.

Vietnam Era,Green Tenite,Johnson Splitback Riveted Sheath.
GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!!!

Let's do this again in 2011 when my 14 w/ sawteeth and green micarta border patrol handle arrives from the shop!

Pair of Vietnan Era Solingen's.
GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!!!

Pair of Vietnam Era Orlando Blades.One Tool Steel,One Stainless-Sep "S".
GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!!!

Kevin, Thanks for the kind words. Here's a #14 still in progress for an Army Paratrooper:



Here's one that went to a Naval Aviator:



This was one for an Air Force Maintenance Officer:



This one most everyone will recognize as Tom CLinton's 2nd Series Vietnam Commemorative, mine also commemorates Chuck Mawhinney, U.S.M.C. (ret'd) who autographed the sheath:







and last, but hardly least, is a silver lugged, silver collared, silver butt capped and silver spacered elephant ivory #14 just waiting to be engraved and scrimshawed. What kind of looks like a check or crack at the top of the handle is actually a discloration from where the nerve ran through the tusk.





Regards, Doug

The model #14 has been one of my favorites ever since they became available with a cut down tang in the mid eighties.
This model #14 CDT is (in my opinion) the finest I've ever seen. The ivory is perfect and, like the nickel silver furniture, has been heavily carved in deep relief by Tom Leschorn.

This model #14 CDT is a genuine one-of-a-kind.

This model #14 has ALL the bells and whistles from the mid-sixties as well as provanance from both Vietnam and Afganistan which make it one of the most desireable vintage model #14s I've seen.

Out of my league with the #14's shown above but it was my first Randall Made Knife.

Tom, no, you are not out of your league with your 14. IMO it's one of the nicest 14's I've seen. Just love stag handles, especially with finger grooves.
Dan Snyder #5537

Stag and Stag with finger grips

Tom,
Your 14 has a "classic" look to it...
I Like It!
Tony

More "classic" looking 14s!
Nice Graham!!
Tony

Rather basic but haven't seen one exactly like this posted so far.

-Steve

Dadgum Steve !!!!! You need to be careful with a picture like that...You're liable to give someone a "noreltney".

To save Guido from trying to find that in an Italian/English dictionary, It's Polk County slang for a mental orgasm.

Dubie Baxter

Dubie,you guys have to much going on in polk county lately.your on the news everyday. Bob

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A matched pair, Model 14 and 15, ironwood.

Chris Walker
RKS #5398

Another view.

Chris Walker
RKS #5398

Model 14, brown micarta, a real handful.

Chris Walker
RKS #5398

Model 14 with a bowie clip, ironwood.

Chris Walker
RKS #5398

Chris,

Beautiful knives! Love that ironwood!

Kent

RKS #109
Life Member NRA

The model 14 may just be my favorite Randall, here's a camp style in elephant ivory...

Rob

flip side...

a few more...

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last one...

Rob,
Very classy #14's!
A perfect balance of "nothing more to add; nothing more to take away"!

Brown Micarta..

...simpley UNIQUE.



Best
Guido

...just handles...



Best
Guido

Guido, sweet! Is the the 'one-of-a-kind' parkerized Model #14 that we wrote about? Good on ya if so! (hmmm, looks like I'll have to update the book now...lol)

Nice scrim too, very cool

Guido,
...simply EXCELLENT!
Ciao,
Tony

Yes Sheldon,
is that one for real ! Unique together with is brother Mod. 18: both parkerized.
Ok, think about me for the "second printing"....
Thanks Tony I appreciated
Best
Guido

Guido, awesome!

For those of you unsure of what we're talking about; while there are plenty of aftermarket Parkerized RMK's floating around these days, there are exactly two that were made and documented as being sold through the Randall Shop - Rhett cared for them for awhile, now Guido is looking after them...very cool stuff!

Model 14 SS blade, JSB sheath. Burnie

Dear All,
Mod.# 14 dedicated week is ended but this Mod.14 can well complete that beautiful listing of everybody' masterpieces



Mod.#14 sawteeth-no teeth
Best
Guido

Guido,

BELLISIMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

TONY

Here is a #14 with some new brown micarta.




Thanks to a new friend and member here for this one. As much as I hate to say it, thanks too eBay.

New Model 14 CDT. I may have a new camp knife.

Barry
RKS4451

A BIG new camp knife!
Very nice, Barry!
Tony

that a 7 option 14?

For me this was an absolute must have knife from this years Blade Show in Atlanta. Everyone who saw this knife was very impressed with the massive, gnarly stag handle and the engraving. The Gutcher Rattlesnake sheath ain't bad either! Burnie can vouch for me on this one he was there when I bought it from Aggiemike. It is awesome, I just hope the photos do this knife the justice it deserves.

Best,
Warren

Warren,

Awesome Knife, I love seeing the Model #14 CDT decked out. I think the #14 blade is a powerful blade and deserves to be adorned in such a manner.

Your next photo project should be another clock but this time scaled in military time.

Warren,
As you know, Mike ordered this knife from me a few years back. He had sent me some stag and indicated that he wanted me to use it for his orders which were in the loop. I told Mike that he should give the shop stag a chance for a couple of different reasons.
1) What the shop had been providing at that time was pretty good.
2) Some of the stuff he sent, while looking good, wouldn't measure.
3) Randall shop-supplied stag has a lifetime warranty.
Well: Mike listened to me and this knife came out with 100% Randall shop-supplied stag! Unbelieveable. I told Mike it was a good thing he received it without me "peeking" into the butcher paper first. There might have been a "problem" if I had seen that one. No...Not really. Mike was ecstatic when he received this knife. I just can't believe he sold it!! Great knife, Warren. Now hang onto it!!
Best, Capt. Chris

Captain,

I remember the look in your eye when I showed it to you. You said that it was the best stag handle in my collection. No arguments from me. Thanks!

Best,
Warren

Yo Warren, that's about the nicest Randall I have ever seen, really. It's a real beauty, congrats on a super acquisition.

Mike,

I don't know about the nicest Randall; that's a fairly broad statement but it is certainly one of the nicest stag handled knives from the shop in any model. Thanks for your comments.

Best,
Warren

You did exceptionally well at The Blade Show Warren!!!!!!
What a great knife. This one is the whole package. Blade, stag, butt plate, and engraving. The craftsman at RMK did a magnificent job on that butt plate!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for taking the time to post.

Kevin

Warren
Terrific knife, we now know for sure that you get all of the good knives. Congratulations on your find.

Peter

Now that's a 14...very nice Warren.

Rob

Warren,
If a #14 can be called Exquisite then this is the one!
Tony

Kevin, Peter, Rob, Tony,

Thanks guys for your comments, much appreciated.

Best,
Warren

My very first Randall arrived today

Well sort of
I ordered this one from the shop 5 years ago and paid the deposit.
At the time I had no other Randall knives.



I actually got to handle this knife last month at the shop it had not had it's final polish at the time.

Grahm,

"Awsome" is one of those overused adjectives, but it aptly applies to that piece of stag and the whole package.

I particularly like the lugged hilt. As you know from your visit here, I am a sucker for lugged hilts. The brass/black spacers and rounded butt cap really work well with the stag.

NICE KNIFE!!!

Regards,
Doug

Yes, very nice one Mate!!

Pap

Looks like it could do a job or two. Very nice 14.

That is one of the best looking #14s I've ever seen. Great job picking out the options.

Beautiful RMK 14 Graham.
I'm glad that you finally got your first Randall.

Kevin

Looking over these threads, I saw I hadn't posted my 14 here.

Peter

HMMMMMMM ...
a combat companion , and now this ...
Peter ... you've been holding out on us!
A Cool #14!

Tony
I have those knives for a while, I only realized recently that I had never posted them in knife of the week.
I have a couple incoming in the near future, which I will post after they arrive
Thanks for the nice comments

Peter

here's my # 14s ... a model that I love (like all other Randall knives).
I apologize (again) for the poor quality of photos ...
maybe I need a new camera!
Best,

Daniele,
Nice pair!
I like the #1 hilt with the saw teeth blade!
Tony

Guess I didn't post this one in Knife of the Week


Received this one 5 - 6 months ago. Capt. Chris & Scott suggested this configuration. The Model #22 handle is kind-of-like getting 6 options for 5.

SS Blade (1 option)
Brass FCH (1 option)
Black & Brass Spacers (1 option)


This leaves 2 options for Custom Handle Material, Brass Butt Cap and Handle Shape

With the #22 handle you get Shop Micarta and choice of color, Crows Beak Butt Cap and The #22 Handle Shape for your 2 remaining options.

Tom, that is one of the nicest #14's I have ever laid eyes on. Nice choice of options.

Great photo too.

Thanks Dubie,

This Model #14 with this configuration feels great in your hand, it is extremely well balanced with the big chunk of brass on the butt end.

I never thought about it until I was talking to Scott at one of the Orlando Gun & Knife Shows but the SS Blades are noticeably heavier than the Carbon Blades. Depending on the handle type and material a #14 in 01 Steel could be well balanced but a little blade heavy in SS with the same handle, especially in the CDT version. This one is near perfect. The #14 blade is a hefty blade.

WOW Tom!
A really cool and unique looking #14.
Goes to show ya ... there are configurations out there that some of us wouldn't automatically think of,
without the guidance of a knowledgeable expert or two!
Thanks for sharing!
Tony

Here's a #14-7 1/2", "CDT" in ironwood!
Best. Capt. Chris

Stainless, Brass double hilt (#1 style), Brass & black spacers, IW handle and a Brass butt cap. Close-up shows just how nice the figure is in this piece (just not totally in "focus")!!
Best, Capt. Chris

my wife takes attack!

Hey Fabio,
...you better behave yourself!!!!

My beloved #14
Still can't get this to show the pic-- only the attachment to click on! ...... I don't get it
dp

Tom, that's a really nice 14 & a great choice of options. I've been considering ordering one with crows beak & appreciated your insight on the SS weight / balance / butt. Well done.

Hi Fabio. I gave my wife the Mini 14 for bag carry. The fullsize one's handle looked kinda obvious sticking out of her purse.
Like Tony said, you had better be a good boy and keep her happy.
Ciao

I thought I'd better show this one off here finally.
Purchased originally from a dealer in this NFG style in the early 70s by the original owner.
The dealer was in Virginia.
I have a couple of 14s with NFGs and have it from the shop that this was an option open to dealers though seldom sought as it defeated the purpose of FGs on the 14 - namely superior grip on blooded hand and wasn't encouraged.
The ones I have are dated probably within 6-12 months of each other. 1 with gold cords and 1 with OD, both with SP stones.
The smooth handle is flawless with perfect lines and symmetry.
Hope you enjoy viewing one of my prized ones.

If anyone has recollection of a dealer in Virginia I'd be happy to be enlightened.

Cheers

Kevin,
Here is my Model #14 "Attack"...not the usual 7-1/2" blade but one with a 6-1/2" blade. Here's the story:

"This RKS newsletter article is from the June 1995 RKS newsletter #27. The model #14 Attack has become a mainstay in the Randall lineup. The 7-1/2" full tang knife was designed with military usage in mind from the start. After the design was submitted to the military boards, the Air Force requested the same knife, only with a 5-1/2" blade. Although neither knife was adopted as a military issue knife, they both have become enormously popular styles. In years past, when time allowed, a few of these #14 and #15 blades were made in the 6.5" length."

WOW! Pretty cool, Rex!
I always thought the 5-1/2" blade was a request from the Marines, possibly for use by Marine Aviators.
Did I get it wrong??
Anyway ... a very cool Randall.
Tony

That's a real nice looking 14 Rex. Thanks for sharing.

Rex,

Great looking knife and background. That's the type of Knife Of The Week stories that we need more of.

Thanks for taking the time to post.

Kevin

Doug,
Your photo was too large (134kb). I emailed it to myself, reduced it to 93kb, edited the mid-range to lighten it slightly and...Here it is. Hope you don't mind. Nice knife.
Best, Capt. Chris

Very nice knife Doug. Thanks to Chris for posting the knife.

Kevin

Here are my 2 newest #14 that I purchased at the shop sale this year. Model#1 is my favorite butt this model is becomming a close 2nd. I hope you enjoy the pictures.

Whoa!
Pretty cool, Jimmy!
I especially like that green micarta SFG handle.
Enjoy!
Tony

That's a great looking pair of knives Jimmy. Thanks for sharing.

Jimmy, Very nice, is the one a G 10 handle? I didn't know that was a shop supplied handle material.

Thanks for the comments and yes the handle is G10 Jade according to the paperwork that was sent with it. I am not sure if this material is from RMK or a customer supplied G10 that they could not end up paying for after being built. Thanks, Jimmy

Jimmy,
Great looking Model #14's. I hope you don't mind, but I resized all 3 from over 100kb to just "under" 100kb. Hopefully everyone will be able to see them now.
Best, Capt. Chris

Thanks for the help Captain Chris.

Those are some great looking knives Jimmy. Thanks for sharing.

Scott

I was in the 5th Special Forces in Vietnam, 1967-end 1968. In early 1967, ordered a type 14 Randall. My knife was delivered after about a 9 month wait just before I left for Vietnam. I think it had a Solingen blade though it may have been carbon (lots of discussion about it at the time... cost was about $65 or so... about 1/2 months pay), and I think I had my name on one side. Why do I “think?”… because leaving Vietnam a hand carry bag with my Randall, 12 rolls of film, many keepsakes including 9mm pistol that was “lost” or stolen.

I can never replace the mementos. But… after the passage of 40 plus years, I decided to buy another Randall… not necessarily as a collector (I collect far too many things now), but more for the memory. So… I bought this one. It looks like a reasonable facsimile to the one I took to Vietnam except without the Solingen blade. (Note: Viet-period Special Forces REQUIRED personal artifacts: Randall knife, Rolex watch, star-saphire ring, engraved Zippo lighter, Montagnard brass bracelet).

I apologize about the pedestrian nature of this knife, compared to some of the beauties displayed in this line. From the picture does a provenance of late-1960s, early-1970s seem reasonable? Thanks for any feedback, and thanks for the beautiful creations displayed.

Jack (?),
Very cool #14. Not pedestrian at all!
Someone more knowledgeable than me will post about the vintage ... I think it could be as late as late 70s - early 80s?
Thanks for posting and welcome to the Forums!
By the way ... Someone I know in my neighborhood was in SF, in Vietnam,
and I only recently asked him if he knew about or owned a Randall Knife.
His eyes lit up and yes, he said ... he still has it! We'll be getting together soon
and I'll write up a little story for the RKS newsletter and the Forums, and get
some photos. Stay tuned.
Tony

Not to imply anything but seems like a lot of folks were SF or seals or something. I didn't run into many and most of them don't talk about it. This is not a flame or to piss anyone off. Just an observation.

Yes, there are a lot of imposters out there. I'm not one however. One reason no one talks about it, except to each other, is because it is just too hard to explain... the jargon, the geography, etc. And the questions that get asked are pretty boring and predictable.

My twin brother served two tours with SF in Vietnam, '66-67, and most of '68. His second tour, '68, was with MACVsog and overlapped my tour. Below is a picture of the two of us taken in 1968 in Kontum, and another exactly 40 years later. I'm looking for pictures of either of us with our Randalls in Vietnam ... by the way, I do not know many SF from that era who did NOT have a Randall.



But about Randalls. Gene still has his Randall model 14. He is taking pictures to send to me to post... but actually it was his second Randall, therein lies a story.

In April '68 his spike team, Delaware, was lifted out of Laos on strings (ropes). Riding his rope, his belt broke and he almost fell... saved himself but his Randall model 14, carbon blade, teethed, fell 3,000 ft into the jungle.

Upon receiving his letter, Randall immediately rushed him a replacement, I think for free... amazing given the wait time for knives then. For the replacement, he got a Solingen blade, model 14 stainless, without teeth. Why? I now remember the intense discussions we had at the time in SF. The carbon blades would rust in a heartbeat in Vietnam. You could not keep them rust free... no way...

Second, the raw leather sheaths would attract mold in about one week. Mold would propigate visciously. Hence just about all the SF used black shoe polish on their sheaths.

I just about soaked mine (the one stolen from me) in neatsfoot oil until you could almost squeeze drops out of the leather, which turned dark dark almost black-brown and still the mold would try to appear. This is one reason you see so many "black" sheaths on Viet era Randalls. I even almost think that a Viet-era Special Forces Randall that has a sheath that is NOT black polished, was not actually a SF knife, or was not actually used in Vietnam.

I will post my brother's second knife, model 14, Solingen blade, circa 1968, survivor of many SOG missions, here when he sends me pictures. Regards.

Never doubted you. Great pictures. My brother was a draft dodger but I still love him. Actually the draft had ended but I wanted him to go in and grow up some. Do you ride a Motorcycle?
VNV MC
Nomad

Oh yes welcome to the site. I forgot being the skeptic that I am.
Hope you stick around, love to see more of your Randalls and the stories behind them.

Welcome Aboard. Great pictures and thanks for sharing your stories with us.

As promised, here is Gene’s second model 14 Randall, acquired after his first was dropped from a harness into the mountains of Vietnam. If I recall, Randall sent this Solingen blade replacement, for free, immediately, in May, 1968 directly to him in Vietnam. As you can see, it has seen 40+ years of rough service.





This Randall has also seen interesting times in Africa on the Congo River, in Pakistan, in Afghanistan, and lots of places in between. I doubt that very many Randall 14s have trekked through five continents and numerous small and large conflicts from Vietnam to Afghanistan.

He has several intercontinental-overseas “action” and/or "situational" pictures involving this Randall through the years that I might post later if they seem germane to this subject.

Looks great please more pic's.

Close-up of Gene's Model 14 (below).


Below - Picture of twin-bro with Randall model 14, 1966, near A-233 Ban Don. This would have been the teethed Model 14 that he lost when it fell from a Maguire rig in April ’68. Typical of SF, he had a "D" ring attached to bottom of the sheath



I’ve gotten him interested in documenting his Model 14 from Vietnam to Afghanistan, Might add some additional pictures to this post using "edit" if anyone is interested. If you are interested in Gene's MACVsog tour, here is an account... the reference to losing his Randall is in footnote 8... but a Randll was on all of these missions.

http://macvsog.cc/spike_team_delaware.htm#Spike Team Delaware at FOB 4, Kontum, Apr 68-Nov 68

This picture (below)shows me with my Randall attached upside down to my harness ... rumor-control scuttlebutt had this way of carring it to be easier to access. I learned through experience not to do this. Looking for a better picture with clear shot of knife.

I would love to see more pictures, im sure everyone else would too. As well as many stories as you feel like typing!

I love it! More please! This is the sort of thing hat made me love Randalls to start with.

I too carried my RMK upside-down (on my body armor). I used an elastic band to retain the handle in case it unknowingly became unsnapped in the heat-of-whatever. The possibility of losing it is the only downfall I could think of. It did seem easier to get to that way, at least for me. Whats the weapon in your right hand? More pics, please!

More pics and stories would be great. Thanks for sharing.

Excellent stuff!
Thanks for sharing!
Tony

Sorry, long post: Here are a couple of more shots from twin-bro that feature Randall Model 14. Notes are included integral with photo. RVN north of Ban Don


Apr. 1978 - Gene says he had Randall and 9mm under coat in this picture… which was the day the news arrived of the overthrow of Da'ud in Kabul by the Parcham communists in coup in Afghanistan.


Re Wally - questions about previous pictures: Weapon in my right hand is a military issue 7-round 12 gage pump shotgun. Why? Oh… various reasons… short one-day medical patrol into village, possible shoot bird or rabbit on way, good weapon in bunkered village. Here is another example held by my friend, SSGT Lonnie Holmes, SF A-253 '68, later Dr. Lewis Holmes, UCLA, ('cuse me!).


Notice the important non-issue re-hydration ration on hood of jeep.

I also had an M-1 carbine slung on other shoulder… (note: I was not issued an M-16 until I was transferred to Ben Het about half way through my tour. Even then, I still carried the M-1 carbine on a lot of missions because that is what our strikers were armed with.)

Re: Randall attached to BAR sling upside down. This was scuttlebutt good method of carrying knife. But in Vietnam, the usual heavy undergrowth terrain was a defining factor. Anything on the front of your equipment would hang up in the brush and you would find yourself on your back quickly. (I’ll post a picture later if I can create one).

Plus … if you had to suddenly hit the dirt, anything on front of gear inhibited “low” movement. We rarely carried grenades, etc., attached to the front as the troops in WWII and Korea had done. (see below) We did not hack our way through the forest, but tried to move like smoke… flow around the thick stuff.

Below - Lt. Gene H. Williams, 3/508PIR pathfinder stick commander, Normandy. Typical WWII airborne rig.


Another reason… rumor passed around that some guy had hit the dirt and his knife had been jammed upward, penetrating the sheath and wounding him. I don’t know if it was true … wild stuff like that was often BS’d around … but it was just simpler to carry it on the belt thereafter.

Other things about Randalls at the time. As noted, the so-called carbon-tool blades would accumulate rust daily, sometimes by the hour. More than a few SF troops traded or sold their Randall carbon-tool blades to new guys coming in… and then ordered stainless replacements. The Solingen blades were good, but were very difficult to sharpen to a fine edge because of the hardness. You basically had to choose… edge and rust=lots of work, or edge=lots of work and no rust.

In the debates, some questioned the Randall cold-worked, oil-hardened steel composition (O1-grade? less nickel, tugunsten, more carbon?) at the time because of the rust issue ... but truth is that everything not blued rusted in the field there is always a trade off in material selection. It was just part of life in Vietnam … and owning a Randall was one of the cult-requirements of Special Forces in Vietnam.

Finally, unlike twin-bro, on my last couple of long (1-2 week) missions I left the Randall in my bunker. Why? We were operating in a very steep mountainous AO .. the tallest in Vietnam.. up to 8,000 ft.. Climbing Montagnard-style, straight up, straight down, would just about wear your butt to where you didn’t care if you got shot.

Each mission I lightened the load I was carrying until it was an absolute minimum. In the end, sick with dysentery and physically weaker, I decided if I needed a big heavy knife, I could use one of my striker’s homemade items (see below). I have one of those knifes … I’ll post a picture of it later if anyone is interested. I still carried my beloved Randall on the shorter medical patrols, etc.



Sorry for the length of this post. Some more pictures of Randall-in-use may be forthcoming. By the way... on the stamped id on Gene's Soligen blade knife... I haven't seen that composition very much on the net. Was this the common one for these blades? I think my blade lacked the word "stainless", I just can't remember...


Afghanistan about 2007 - Randall not shown, but other pics with it forthcoming

Again great post Jack.

A few questions:

Why were Randalls a must have for SF in vietnam? Did it help show who was a experienced troop vs someone who just arrived in country?

Also didnt the military still issue the parkerized ka-bar knives? Seems those would have been more rust resist albeit much weaker, were they just not to anyones liking?

Don't worry about the length of your posts ... GREAT READING!
Thanks again for sharing.
Tony

Below is a hand-made Montagnard knife… typical… wooden sheath… compared with Randall 14.





Re: Why did Special Forces have such an institutional requirement for Randalls? No particular reason except that it was a SF cult thing… unrelated to length of service in Vietnam. Anywhere in the world, Randalls and SF went together ... like SF and Rolex, or SF and star safire ring, or SF and green beanie (never worn in field except for photo ops), or SF and a WWII BAR belt for field equipment, or Vn SF and boy-scout scarf (but not earrings, bandanas, do-rags, fringe, LRP-type posturing stuff), etc.

You either had a Randall or you wanted one… no one gave a hoot about other knives. Actually the knives themselves were rarely used for much more than opening rations, etc. BUT… a Randall was something you were just supposed to have….



Re: Ka-bar, issue knives, etc. Honestly, I don’t think I ever saw a knife issued by the US Army. I don’t even think they did it… maybe Marines, or somewhere, or maybe the supply boys in the rear got them, but no one I knew was ever “issued” a knife of any kind. The same goes for M-16 bayonets, etc. Never saw one, never wanted one, didn't know anyone who had one.

Photo art… This is just a nice combo of good stuff.



I tried to create a picture in my backyard showing why I quit carrying knife on front of BAR belt...bad picture... oh well. Keep in mind that the change was environmentally caused... the idea seems to be good in principle. Maybe in more open terrain... Regards...

Oh Lord, that young LT at Normandy looks like he's seen some things he'll never be able to forget. My heart goes out to him. May God bless him.

Please continue posting your photos and stories. We love talking Randall knives here, but your stories and photos are putting these 'collectibles' into their proper historical context. It's much appreciated.

And we thank you for your service!

Thank you Jack for taking the time to post on The Knife Of The Week.

And thank you very much for your service to our country.

Kevin

Jack thanks for taking time to answer my questions. Keep posting pics and info, I'm sure I'm not the only one thats checking this thread for new pics/posts from you!

Thanks... check the name of that Lt.

He was KIA on 20 June 1944 during 3/508 PIR (82nd Abn) attack on the town of Pretot. He commanded "chalk 18" pathfinder stick during D-Day jump. Word that he had twin sons born 2 days after D-Day reached his battalion 6 hrs after he was KIA. Ironic... iconic. Quite a few pictures and his story in general are on the net various places. Regards...

This is great stuff. I have a Randall and a Rolex. But I certainly wasn't special forces. So what is the deal with the ring? Thanks for all these photo's and stories.

Twin-bro just sent me a msg. I can't repeat Afghan portion, but here are a couple of story lines:

"-- Second, check out the "sheen" on the back side of my sheath. Any knife, just like a carpet, which has actually been worn in the field will have that sheen."

"-- Third, a story from a mission 30 km north of Ban Don on the Dar Lac Plateau...high and flat and lightly wooded, you walked it in a day. A 'yard asked if he could borrow my Randall. I gave it to him. He cut a rope and looked at me as if he couldn't believe how easy it was.

"Next thing I knew he was hacking up bamboo on a stone for some reason, leaving dents in the edge. I was horrified. We were setting up an ambush on a high speed trail, rain was misting down, and here was my Randall with dents!

"He saw my expression, took the knife and hand ground it on a stone..just an ordinary stone, till the dents were gone...edge was gone too..but who cared in the end after the ambush and firefight that night which brought a spooky over us; claymores going off, 60mm mortars, and the burp and long red fingers of the spooky (puff the magic dragon) reaching down like the hand of god."

Gene Williams, 23 Aug 2010

Thanks for the photos and stories Jack. This is Randall history. And thank you for your service.

No new pictures.. yet. But with the internet I checked on something. We were all amatuer metalurgists 40 years ago and the composition of the steel in model 14 and the affinity to rust, was hotly debated. Here is one source and what I found out... I'll be darned.. all that years ago had a modicum of truth..

http://ajh-knives.com/metals.html

"O-1 and O-2 are the most widely used general purpose oil hardening tool and die steels. They are used where it is desirable to maintain minimum distortion and dimensional change, and at the same time have a good combination of hardness and toughness. Machining characteristics of these grades are very good. O-1 steel is very popoular with forgers as it is easy to work with, and relatively cheap to buy. It takes and holds an edge superbly, and is very tough, but rusts easily. Used by Randall Knives."
Typical Analysis

O-1 Carbon 0.90 Manganese 1.20 Chromium 0.50 Tungsten 0.50 Vanadium 0.20

The question about kit model 14s jogged a memory. I found this sold on e-bay a few years ago. Strange...




"You are bidding on an uncommon kit knife. Randall Models 14 and 15 (Solingen blades only) were available in kit form was Models 16, 17, and 18 were not. Kit knives could be purchased in the 1960s and 1970s but starting in early 1971 kit blades no longer carried the Randall trademark."

See:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://pmimages.worthpoint.com/thumbnails2/1/0907/03/1_416b7e8bcd0cc9b2e872593ba1dcee37.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vietnam-era-randall-model-14-kit-knife&usg=__XAOwFKPIhaH_yxaeVdgvMV1vHcI=&h=150&w=150&sz=5&hl=en&start=39&zoom=0&itbs=1&tbnid=K9LelQsYBwX4WM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3DRandall%2Bmodel%2B14%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1

I borrowed a lot of these pictures from the on-line posting of John Gibson’s collection:

http://www.militaryfightingknives.com/collection.html

But I have a question…. Why is there such a variance in the number of teeth in the saw-tooth model 14s?
They range from 16 teeth to 30 something.

18 teeth

19 teeth

19 teeth

26 teeth

30+ teeth

17 teeth

Tooth size and count varied on the amount of wear on the grinding wheel and the individual doing the grinding.

Hsndmade......

Mitchell is partially correct. At one time, you could order (specify might be more accurate) fine teeth, resulting in a higher number per inch. It seems you find finer teeth predominately in earlier pieces.

As I understand it, the same fella has been grinding teeth now for approximately 35 years or so.

Yes, I heard he was almost an expert at it by now. 5 more years and he will be able to do it in his sleep.

PS please disregard all post made by me today. I haven't taken my meds yet. Oh yea I did take them must not of kicked in yet. Shit I'm going back to the 7th floor at the VA. Lock down crazy people ward.

Pre-Owned but in very great shape and well-cared for.
Needed a Gutcher Sheath since the original Randall didn't come with it.
Wonder how old it is?

A real beauty, and a nice picture and background. I like the hilt ... different and striking combo.

This saw-tooth M14 is my favorite RMK of all. I have one and I carried a solingen facimile in Vietnam. I cannot date yours because I lack experience ... but I think this basic model has been unchanged since the early '70s. Original sheath and stone would have helped date it. Perhaps there are some features that the more expert RMK club memebers can identify.

This is an Orlando stainless blade which raises a question that I've wondered about for 40 years, re: Randall Orlando stainless vs. Randall Solingen stainless.

The Randall Solingen stainless blades of the Viet era were notoriously hard to put an edge on. The soft stone included with the sheath would just not make a mark on the hard stainless steel. We therefore used a variety of local means to sharpen a Solingen stainless blade, usually scratching it up pretty good in the process.

Are the Orlando-stainless blades "softer" and easier to edge? Or are they, too, a hard steel needing special techniques to edge?

Alot of things can make a knife easier to sharpen. Somethings like chromium (needed for rust resistance) and nickel make them harder to sharpen. Randalls stainless is pretty easy to sharpen but not as easy as 01 tool steel. I would guess the german blades were just not of very high quality and had a low carbon content.

I have done a few rust resistance tests on randalls and the current stainless is very rust resistant. Its one of the few steels I cannot get to rust. The 01 however you can watch rust if you put some sweat on the blade.

Kind words appreciated.
I've tried polishing out some earlier scratches, it polishes well, but the scratches remain. I suspect this is a very hard steel that once sharpened, keeps its' edge. I have not tried putting a stone to it yet, and honestly will be very reluctant to do much more edge work to prevent newbie mistakes.
If I were very anal, I'd look into sending it back to be polished, re-edged if Randall offers that service.
But I also know to leave well-enough alone and enjoy its' "personality".

Is that a chip on the rear edge of the blade?

I don't know what is is, I think it's a sharpening error that has resulted in rounding of the blade edge. It's too clean and formed to be a break, imho. Unless it was a chip that someone tried to round out.
I try not to notice it...and like to believe it left the shop like that.
But I know it probably didn't!

New 14! I think I am in love...

The 14 is a great knife.
I like the green Micarta handle on yours!
Tony

Will the tang on the handle area rust the same as the blade? Just wondering, thanks!

Great knife.

Why would you let it rust? Just wondering.

Well If I was using it I would wear off the protectant and thus leave it exposed.

VST #14 and #15.
- Rob

what has been done to those? Has the micarta been given a rough finish?

looks like the handle and guards have been bead or sand blasted,great look and finish.

Rob--

Those knives look tough and even the sheaths are special..........ready for some serious fieldwork.

Very nice.

Thanks for the compliments guys, glad you like them!

As far as the details, this is a peak at a project that I have been working of for a little while with another gentleman who is very familiar with Randalls! These 2 both have carbon blades, both are etched with a special number, and both have some very cool sheaths with them...these are part of a limited run known as the VST knives! Oh yeah, and the best part, they have both been "blasted" and parkerized for a subdued finish!

I'll get more details up as I can - Rob

My model 14 did a super job today on this black cherry. Went through it like butter. A superior survival blade to any Busse I own.

PS. my wife is a expert photographer! Looks like I am posing but I am mid chop!

Leatherman, It's good to see a great knife in action. I also have some #14 that I use alot while camping. Great pics. Jimmy

Attached is another picture of my brother in Vietnam. This was taken Nov. 22 1966 somewhere south of Ban Don, and Pleiku, B-23 II-corp, Republic of Vietnam. At that time he was a part of Team A-233 Ban Don, 5th Special Forces.

This shows him in the field sharpening his toothed Model 14, using orginal sharpening stone. This particular knife was later lost when his belt broke while riding a Maquire rig in early 1968. In May 1968 the lost knife was replaced by a Model 14 Solingen, previously pictured.

great pic Jack!

Very Nice!
Thanks for posting, Jack.
Tony

My 14 has new pants!

Ben,
I can't tell from your pics, but is the back of the sheath stamped with an "M"?
Nice at any rate, Capt. Chris

Capt.,

What would the "M" signify??

A lot of Greg's sheath (I will have to take some photos), especially "Canteen-snapped" and riveted ones will be stamped with an "M". This denotes one of Greg's "Military" models. Most I have had made came with more of a natural tan leather, rather than the darker tan. Greg has made me waxed ones as well however. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris

Yes it is an M also the leather is a light tan, the pics are kinda crappy, I just had to show it off!

Does the M add to the value?

Also Capt, are these canteen snaps pretty durable?

Thank-You Capt., I was wondering..

Sweet rig. congrats!

Another 14 'user' ... twin brother in Afghanistan recently. Actually same knife was previously pictured in Vietnam and other interesting places in the world the last 40+ years, note riveted sheath, etc. Picture has portions deleted for obvious reasons.

This is my Model 14 that I got back in the early 80's:

Cool Mick!
Is that green micarta or the old black?
Tony

Thanks!

That is the old black micarta....It is the first Randall I have owned and I have used this one the most....

Mick, nice knife. I like the spear point style.

There's a great article in the latest "The Backwoodsman" magazine (May/June) with the title "The Randall #14, A Warriors Tradition", by Dan Shechtman. If you all don't have The Backwoodsman magazine on your list, you should, lots of great outdoorsy stuff that you won't find anywhere else. One year rate is $23 at Backwoosman Magazine, P.O. Box 1740, Fulton, TX 78358, email bwmmag@cobridge.tv. Pap tested and approved.

Here is my Model#14 that I purchased a few months ago. I relly like the beefy blade on the 14's. Not only is this a great fighter, I think it would serve just as good around the camp. The year book is back from the good ole days when most of us could probally get out of bed without something hurting. I hope you enjoy.

That's a real nice Model 14, Jimmy. It similar to one I just delivered to a SF Sargent at Fort Bragg who's going to take it with him on his next tour in "the sandbox". His was the same except no finger grooves.

His came with the standard "C" sheath.

I didn't think anything slowed down Rangers, Jimmy. Not even age.

Jimmy,
That's a great looking #14!
How's the balance with the CDT? Not too blade heavy?
Tony

Tony it's a little front heavy. I like the added weight for chopping small limbs and such while camping. IMHO it is a great all around user.

Thanks Jimmy.
I ask because I'm thinking about a single hilt #14 for a big camp knife.
Probably with a CDT.
Tony

No problem Tony. I have a few CDT#14's and they make great camp knives.

Here's a Model #14 that I've had awhile, and I don't think I ever added it to the thread...so here it is.

Classic Knife and a Superb Photo

Beautiful mod 14. One day I'm gona add a newer 14 to my collection :-)

Real Nice Rex!!!
Shop Green Micarta Handle, yes? ... Looks Great!
Tony

Hey Guy's...thanks for the comment's...Tony that is the shop 'green' micarta.

Thought I would post my new-old model 14. It’s a little different in that it has an inscription plate.

Jack,
Nice 14. A new acquisition? Anything on the inscription plate?
Tony

No inscription, at least not yet. The knife is in excellent condition... as is the sheath, though it has been worn some. This at least allows me to have a knife for each son.

Question - if I have something inscribed on the plate, can the plate be changed out later without destruction? Regards... Jack

It cannot. The initials can be removed and the plate re-etched...but that's it!
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris

A question Cap.How is the plate fastened.??

Another Q capt. I think I remember seeing a RMK with an inscription plate back in about 1966 at Ft. Bragg, but only the model 14. Approximately when did this option become available and did other models offer this option?

I've been looking at a lot of old Randalls lately (kinda becomes a habit doesn't it?), but the plate doesn't seem to have been that popular. Can you still get a knife with this plate?

Maybe Cap is busy?...

The plate is expoxied into the handle. It has been around for decades. Often overlooked, because of the 5 option limit (and blade etching available with more characters offered), the name plate is a nice addition to the handle, especially if it is engraved with artwork instead of initials! Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris

Hi :-)
If the plate is epoxied it's not so hard to remove it. Warm air pistol will do the job easily.

You may be correct but I was told by the shop..."It's in there", indicating the handle would be damaged if any attempt was made to remove it. Perhaps it's dadoed in as well. Whatever: I would not attempt to remove it, especially if I was considering re-using it without checking with the Randall shop first.
Best, Capt. Chris

Okey I understand thank's.

Where do you get the plate engraved? Does the shop send it off or do you send it after getting it?

Pap

Pap
The shop will engrave up to 5 initials, anything else you have to have someone else do it.
Peter

I'm sure the shop would do a great job. But these days most local trophy shops have lazer or water engraving that is amazing in the ability to created just about any design on any metal.

But I'm considering an old method used in Vietnam to scratch-engrave my unit and A-Team and-or perhaps the SF crest, but not initials. But maybe not ... I kinda like the plate though. I had an old zippo lazer engraved, but i keep my scratch-engraved one from Vietnam in a safe.

Well, guess my memory wasn't too bad. I found posted earlier this nice example in John Gibson's collection online, dated "early-mid '60s." I would guess the plate is mostly limited to combat handles though ... interesting question.



http://www.militaryfightingknives.com/collection.html#Randall

"Randall Model 14. Made aprox early 60's. The knife has a 7 1/2" Stainless Sawback blade with the "Low S" mark and a brass hilt. The handle is black micarta with an inlaid name plate. The sheath is a Johnson Large Rivet, Split Back with early leather lacings and a 2-tone gray stone."

I think quite the opposite would hold true, with regards to plates. I have found the majority were hunters, campers and ornate Bowies. Wood and stag seem to have been more likely targets than micarta.
Best, Capt. Chris

I know it's been years since this post, but can anyone explain in lamen terms how to do that kind of wrapping with the paracord at the bottom of the sheath, I'd like to do mine that way.

Chevy it's basically like tying a hangman's noose upside down. I can do it but it's too dang confusing for me to try and explain. I think if you did a google search for how to tie a hang mans noose you can figure it out. Post it up when you get done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR8Y33WufOM

use this video

Thanks! The video was great. Here's what I did, I used the middle section's natural loop to be part of the top, much cleaner I think:

Very good Chevy....you win a cookie. Now do as I did and very dang sheath with a lanyard I did this to em! Also my key chain, a leather binder at work, my jackets, heck I put these things on everything!

Posterity Post:

Model 14 CDT:

SS, Thumb Notches, Nickel Single Hilt Square, Black and Aluminum Spacers, Ivorite, Border Patrol, Wrist Thong, Compass and Black Sheath

Doug

WOW!!!!

Whoa, Whoa, WHOA!!!!!!!

More pics please.
What a great camp knife. Have been thinking about something like that!
Excellent!

Tony

Nice options combo!!!

Fantastic looking knife.

Yeah, that's a dream itself.

Pap

Just received this one from Randall, couldn't be happier, my best to the shop, thanks guys and of course Valerie!

Rob

That looks nice.

Nice one Rob. The 14 Room must be busy.
Here's mine I received a couple of weeks ago. Another fine job from Randall Made Knives!

Great knives Tony and Rob.

Thanks Steve!!!

I love the model 14!

Here my #14s:
the first is dated 1997 (it's the only Randall I own that has been purchased directly through the shop... at that time the waiting was less than a year), while the second is one of the VST Series from Rob Schoening and Larry Vickers.
Hope you enjoy

Welcome Stefano
That is a nice pair of model 14s. Nice rifle also.
Keep your ears open for the next shop sale in April, there are usually some 14s available with a very short wait.

Peter

Thanks a lot Peter, will do

They have a few knives left, I ordered a 16 SF last week.

Stefano,
Great looking 14s!!!
Tony

nice set.love the stgw 90 (sig 550)

border patrol is a fantastic handle

congrats!

Thank you for the nice comments
The Stgw90 (Fass90/SIG550, as Bob already said) is the one I received back in 1990 when I joined the Army... a fantastic and very accurate weapon

That's a great pair of knives Stefano.

Another #14 from the VST series I had the chance to get... I really love the teeth-no teeth grind!

Pretty sick knife. Too bad it's not getting used in the capacity it was designed.

Now that's a KNIFE! Well done Stephano, you have at least one serious tool in the arsenal! I like the riveted sheath as well.

Take care,

Jay

Would you elaborate a little bit more on why you made this comment, please.

This is an some awesome looking knife. The sharpened edge outline makes for a cool look to the knife blade. Thank-You Stefano for posting it. GREAT pictures..

ps: How does the handle feel being blasted like it is?

A great looking Randall ... looking for a fight!

Stefano -
Nice pics...glad you like the knife!
- Rob

Thank you Sirs for the kind comments

Michael, the blasting on the handle gives more grip... personally I prefer this finish compared to the "classic" polished

Rob, thanks again for this great knife!! My other friend was very happy with his #18, too

Very nice knife. I really like the black blade look.

Today I got my next Mod. 14:

It is in a nice "Diver-Configuration".

Not really a diver, because of the O1 blade.
But I think, it is a real outdoor user.



Thanks,
Matthias

Thats a sweet setup on a 14!

A very nice Camp Knife!

SS, Green BPH, #1 NS hilt, Waxed model C

Great all around knife. Good for anything.

Ben,
I did open it and have a peek because the wrapper said double hilt but didn't list the #1 style double hilt. Nice rig and enjoy it!
Thanks, Capt. Chris

It all looks good! I like this configuration more than any other I think!

Yeah, great configuration. The BPH is my favorite handle shape on the 14s & 15s.

Nice looking #14. Will it be a user?
Tony

Another masterpiece from the RMK shop.

hi Mat, you use this knife ? if you have a photo of use would be very nice

I don't use it, because I sold it few month ago.

Here is my knife that I just received from a jolly guy with a beard, not him, but Capt. Chris, just in time for the holidays:)

I found a piece of slotted brown canvas micarta at the Blade Show this year so I ordered it then.
Specs are SS,NS hilt, sawteeth, customer supplied brown canvas micarta (ironwood colored) with a border patrol shape handle.
It turned out great as expected.
I must have been good this year
Peter

Great looking package, Peter. That handle really compliments the sheath.

Peter that is one heck of a #14! That border patrol micarta is seriously special!

Peter

Great looking knife. I really like the Brown. I have a piece of Old Brown, your knife is giving me some ideas.
Thanks for posting.

Killer knife Peter and great pictures! I'm a big fan of the brown micarta and the thick sawteeth look real nice.

Well done,

Jay

Here are a couple of #14. One is my personal CDT I ordered back in late 1991 and received in 1993. The second is a standard #14 that could be from the late 1980's.

Peter ... a Serious looking #14.

Pat ... those 14s are classic!

Tony

Thanks for the comments guys

I really like the brown canvas and had a #10-3 and #10-5 made with it also

Peter

This is my second RMK around 1975.
I am the original owner.
Bo speced this for me on the phone.
It went overseas with me shortly there after.
Took these pics this AM, still learning on the close up shoots.
Thx,
Nuc
Gary

Great knives, all of them
Gary, your pix improve rapidly!

Got this one today:

tool steel, brass hilt, green micarta



Matt

Nice looking #14 and photography, Nucler. Was the sheath special ordered with no leg tie-down?

I think tab there in shadow. I love basic pure 14 but new deep finger scallop sharp corner hurt when chopping. Otherwise would own. Beautiful new knife congratulations.

Oops...edit apology as missed which knife no tab...nucler not matthias. Nucler's is beautiful and now two great photo and knives this page.

How about a "single finger" grip?

:-)Rocky

BTW beautiful knife!!

If this to me, SFG or BP always. But would love a 14 with standard if sides of joints not bashed as i bashed. Same would like 14 also with old type canopy basher like Buxton. But Matthias 14 ist wunderbar und marvelisch.

Here are a couple more variations of the Model 14

Here are my two favorite Model 14s. I may be in a tiny minority, but I just don't like the C type sheaths.
- Buckspen

Nice dueling set, Mr Tom. Beautiful too. Did you think maybe a bowie clip point on bottom one? Either way is perfect.

I wish for no C sheath too. Cut weight and bulk. Getting old and no more far away danger ranger so no failsafe sheath of need. Have talked with Greg and he will make black A sheath no stone pocket for my new knife describe below. Wish could have come straight from Randall.

Thanks for bottom knife photo with non C sheath. 1 1/2yr out still have 14 cdt and maroon micarta black spacers #1 fighter guard and butt of nickel silver. For small hand. Hope it much as yours and will dream it be so as that first photo i have seen of smaller diameter handle.

The first Randall I ordered from the shop was just like the top one in this picture.

The sheaths appear to be #1-8" sheaths, i.e. narrow and slightly longer then the #14 blades. Do they sheath OK in those "A" style sheaths?
Nice knives, Capt. Chris

Hope you like these!!!

I picked up this #14 recently - I "believe" it has 6 options: SS, ST, FC, NS, CW, SFG.

Yes, they are #1-8 sheaths (although only marked "8" on the back) and the knives fit quite nicely in them. To me, the A type sheath has a "cleaner" look than the C type, and as Romanum pointed out, they are less bulky. Anyway, I likes 'em!

- -Buckspen

Bob, add wrist thong to that list.

Wrist thong comes standard on any full, exposed tang knives Pat. I think Bob's option count is correct.
Best, Capt. Chris

Bob, sorry about that, send it back to the shop and we'll take one off....:)

---DW---

Dang, Cap, ya learn somethin' every day!! So would it be an option on one of those types to "opt out" of a wrist thong?

Mr Poyner, i do like them, especial the bottom two. Is that a bowie clip hiding in bottom of pile?

Mr Buckspen, i think you are lucky. Or maybe not as much on older sheath. Blade width not a constant and i have tried wider blade type in narrower sheath of modern make and had edge trying to slice welt. Maybe knife variation, maybe older sheath wider.

Pat:
The wrist thong is an intergral part of the handle construction. It adds support and prevents the handle from moving around. Not doable without it, no.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris

That as i thought Captain. On military knife they not leave without SOMETHING through tang except briefly. I glad you said since if lowly me had, somebody have told me glue NEVER fail. No that happens all time but military failsafe as possible or hope so. For epoxy, main thing is prevent initial shift.

Buxton VERY unusual in modern time.

You are right! I was lucky that these fit well. I had to try several different ones before getting the correct fit.

- - -Buckspen

DW,

Thanks so much for your very generous offer, but I think I'll have to pass:-)!

Interestingly, this was the second #14 in the same configuration I acquired in the past year (different handle materials only difference...). Thanks,

Mr Buckspen, they are lovely and looks as if made to order. Are photo oriented right and left and right gunfighter special? Then almost need belt with sharpening stone loops.

Romanum - Yes, one for each hand!

- - -Buckspen

Romanum my friend you are correct. I also have a Buxton fighter and one in black micarta with bowie clips.Will get those posted up at some point.Thanks

I look forward to seeing. I have not a 14 except the one due Oct 2016. Will fix as soon as other two "any day" arrivals arrive in real.

Probably just get classic whether work for hand or not. Like #1, it just a must.

Need for Buck B. of Fayetteville, NC to contact me. You have an email with my contact info and #14 RMK order.

Buck:

Got my receipt today. Thank you, and looking forward to the summer when I get my retirement gift to me!!!

Got a black one for my #14 due to arrive this summer: review of SPEC OPS Combat Master sheath. I drooled starting the 1:55 mark, and all my questions answered. The Randall leather sheath I am getting, I do not want to destroy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-0Ivbqlh4E

Got this one yesterday:

#14 stainless, with sawteeth, #1 style double nickel silver hilt and a black sheath.



Matt

Looks similar to the one I ordered. Except mine is coming with:

- nickel silver double hilt #14 style
- waxed sheath (won't be used; I have a black Spec Ops Combat Master sheath to use instead)
- Border Patrol handle with black Micarta grips

Looks nice!!!

Got this one together with the other one above........



Matt

Very Nice Model #14s.
I am also a big fan of the Spec Ops Combat Master sheaths and the users all have one. The model #14 is not a small knife vs say a #28 so a good sheath system (how the sheath is worn) can make a difference if you carry one a lot.

Tom V.

I am not a fan of the "Gun Fighter" (low mount on the thigh) with a #14.

#14 Full Size and #14 Mini with piggy back sheath

Ultra nice combo!!!

Pap

These double sheaths have also been made in tan color, and with rivets.

That is a very nice setup.

my newest

My first Randall, got it today:

#14 SS sawteeth blade, Border Patrol black Micarta handle, double nickle-silver hilt, full tang, waxed sheath.

This was my retirement gift to me after 21 years of service in the Army that officially concludes 31 AUG 2015. I wished I had bought one/know about Randall's years ago. I sold a NIB Gerber BMF w/sawteeth I purchased as a green 2LT in Alaska 20 years ago to partially finance this. I think I upgraded. This won't be my last one!!!

Mine

Beauties! Congrats on the retirement, thanks for serving!

bren10man,
Nine knife,have one similar except green micarta.Thanks for your
service.

My newest addition. Originally thought it may look cool displayed, but as soon as I held it and felt the balance, and how it fit my hand like it was custom made just for my hand, I'm afraid now it is going to be my go to knife for all things brutal. I will be beating on it. That includes chopping, whoppin', batoning and basically relying on it for lots of tasks, and certainly enjoying the heck out of it.

No prying though. I never do that.

If she breaks, I'll put the pieces in a display case. I don't see that happening though.

Good looking knife, Tom. That choil is huge. I think you could park a Jeep in there.

I usually don't like a large choil, but this one did not stick out to me as being large. Guess I was more taken with the green and the rest of the blade shape.

Handsome blade Tom. That green handle is super. Is it standard RMK green micarta? Should be a fine working knife.

Tom

Hi Tom,

According to the Captain, it is Jade Green and no longer available. Mine was apparently supplied by customer. I like it better in person than the photos of it I initially saw. Glad yo like it.

Tom

It was never a shop option, rather customer-supplied. I like the stuff...a lot!
Best, Capt. Chris

I like it a lot. Has a lot of depth of color in person. Feels great also.

I have a couple of jade green micarta Randalls and they don't look as good as your knife. They also don't photograph well with a cell phone camera. Looking at the grips on these two knives in real time they look the same. Not so much in the photos. All I can suggest to get the actual color is to split the difference between the two.

It does look like a really bad imitation of jade as far as the color goes.

I got a yesterday afternoon model 14 mini #1581.
Beautiful design and high quality finish.
I wonder what it is the year of release?
Today I completed the repair and used the knife.
Excellent steel. Knife blunt due to contact with
the concrete wall. I think if there was a model 10-4
with #14 grind, 1/8 thickness, it would be my ideal for city EDC

Sorry for the poor quality of the photos..

A sweet pair of Mini 14's with consecutive serial numbers....

One of the nicest condition tenite 14's I have come across. Lasted about 5 minutes.

Looks like a Solingen "hump back" blade.

Looks brand new, Crutch..

Congrats on your FIRST RANDALL, IT WILL NOT BE YOUR LAST,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE OF 21 YEARS WITH OUR ARMY TROOPS.

Tom Vaught

Brown button and canteen snap. I couldn't guess what the rarest variation/combination of sheath, knife, handle material, etc, is,... but a brown button canteen snap is my favorite sheath.

Joe, how the devil could that sheath survive so long without any trace of verdigris (or whatever that green stuff is called) around the rivets?
...and what a BEAUTIFUL knife!

Steve, no shit, the leather smells new! Literally. I don't think I have ever had one that smelled like that. Pretty bazaar. Absolutely no signs of age whatsoever. It was kept in a safe deposit box since it was new was how I understood it.

Unbelievable!
-wish my older sheaths were half as nice.

Sublime !!!

Just in from the shop...ordered 8/30/10
5 years, and 1 month later...well worth the wait.
#14 CDT single finger grip thumb notches my micarta....if I go to camp, it will be with me....should be getting the same in a #15 in the next few months.
:-)Rocky

Very nice "camp edition" 14!!!! They make good camp knives. Taking mine this week to..... ][/url]

Like the saw tooth feature. I use it as a 3rd hand to grab and toss thorny brush I chop as I am maintaining paths to my fishing holes along the river.

Very cool!! Surprised military style knives are so shiny still. Nice to see yours is stealthy

That was a limited run of sandblasted and coated knives

Rocky Whitaker, that's a beauty, especially with the single finger grip! Here is one that I just received as well.

Bill, a knife like that needs more than just a partial pic shown. C'mon, lets see that jewel.

It's obvious by the photographs, who I just purchased this fantastic set from, but his picture taking is world's better than my cell phone.

Beautiful Model 14 and Skagg's engraving. Congratulations on the pair.

Bill,

Great buy! I was looking at that one as well; great configuration with the Tri and the sheath.

Tom Flynn

Thank you Gentlemen. I'm very proud to have it in the collection.

Here one of my 3 model #14...with my shave set up...and another little baby...

That one is my second #14, it'a a middle '90

Early 60s Solingen. Thanks Tune

Randy,

Very Nice!!!

Kent

RKS #109
Life NRA
A "OK" shot!

Thanks Kent. Wanted one for a while now. Where the heck have you been hiding?

Randy,

Had been a bit busy running a shift on the street, but back in investigations now- more normal hours.

Kent

My first Randall with Clinton supplied Cream Micarta Handle.

here are mine!

from top to bottom : '67/'72 period (it has a riveted sheath), mid to late 90's, early 2000's.

Attila!!
nice to have you aboard....your done....for ever!!
:-)Rocky

Thanks Rocky!!

Here's a decked out 14 CDT, Stainless, brass double hilt, brass and black spacers, CW stag, thong hole, brass butt plate. Engraved by Billy Bates. I owned this knife in 2009, sold it and bought it back again this year at Blade. Glad I got this one back.

Ready 2 sell it yet, again...

Not this time. First time was a mistake.

LOL I just posted the same on the other thread......good call, so remember Warren James & I are waiting LOL!!!!

YEAH

You may be waiting a loooong time.

January will be here before you know it ...

So will the next knife that he wants LOL!!

You guys are too funny. You just wait answer what's next

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You cut the guard yourself?

Yes I did. I am a welder so that kind of mod is easy for me have all the right tools and knowledge to not mess anything up. I figured I could get that now and make it perfect for me or order it the way I wanted and wait forever. I don't plan on selling it so I made it a perfect user for me.

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Good mushroom

Cut that shiitake out!

a) that was funny

b) "good mushroom" is an oxymoron

c) i kinda liked the moss, myself

d) nobody complimented my broiler pan a page back

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I picked up a model 14 last weekend.
SS, black micarta single finger groove handle, forward curved hilt and JRB sheath.
It was a three way horse trade to get me the knife but I enjoy things like that, also introduced the owner of 14 to RKCC.
He also had a "kit" marked blade model 7 stag and compass and an older 6 inch model 5 SS micarta, finger groove with compass. He was kind enough to bring these two up to the show for me to drool over when he brought me the model 14.

Nicely done and a good grab. Welcome to the addiction.

Got lucky and grabbed this 14 shortly after it was offered here for sale. Good possibility Tom Clinton commissioned this knife as some have recently suggested. One beautiful piece of artifact fossil with outrageous color.

Warren!!
your pocket book has no bottom!!!

:-)Rocky

Lol Rocky. Bottoms up!

I found on the Internet, I liked the picture.
I do not know who it is, but that's exactly #14.
Let it be here.

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nice shot!!
:-)Rocky

Snake,
I believe that knife to be a #16-7", Special Fighter, not a #14.
Best, Capt. Chris

Thank you, Capt. Chris.
You are an experienced dealer and know for sure.
Blade is a little shorter?

The blade is only 1/2" shorter. The knife in the picture has a model #1 style hilt which is standard on the #16-7" Special Fighter.

It's available on a model #14, but not as common as the 14 hilt.....so it could be a 14, but more likely a #16.

Great picture though.

Mitchell,
I am fairly certain it is not a #14. What you say is true, it "could" be a #14 but the overall size of the hilt looks too short to be on a #14. Of course, if we could see the entire blade the answer would be crystal clear. The #16-7+, Spl. #1 is one of the knives RMK makes available to active-duty with little to no wait. That also plays to it being one of those.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: A short as the sheath appears, it could be a Combat Companion! CCS

The blade is short..... could be a Companion or a #15.

A #15 would be wider, I think. I think the "last" choice would be a #14, judging the blade-handle size ratio.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: I think, by now we are posting in the wrong category...CCS

Off topic but nobody mentioned the $3K Schmidt and Bender optics on that rifle. Ohhhhh, nice.

Here are a couple I hope you'll like.

BCP's on top of it all!
Nice!
Capt. Chris

looked like a Zeiss to me
30mm??
:-)Rocky

Rocky, It says Schmidt & Bender on the side.

Looks like their 1.1-4x20 PM II ShortDot model

My guess is a Combat Companion w/teeth

Eric,
My eyes are just not that good....
I see the writing, but I cannot make it out....
most of the European scopes appear similar..at least to my limited eye sight...
:-)Rocky

Rocky, I was kidding, I had to blow up the picture to make it out myself. Zeis has been top of the line since pre WWII. I have a Leupold HAMR w/Delta Point on my Colt AR. I can't afford Zeiss or Schmidt Bender.

There's a quote you don't see every day...

(usually "Leupold" is on the back half of that sentence)

This is all quite interesting guys but subject for the Blades, Bullets & Bows forum. Let's get back to Model #14's..."please"?
Thanks, Capt. Chris

Here are a couple with teeth>

Nice ones Billy, I like teeth.

Oldie but goodie. God Bless Our Troops !!!

Model 14 with Teeth. Yellow print 2-tone stone.

Question for the knowledge bank.. bought a #14 brass double guard, "C" sheath,black micarta handle with finger grips in 1981(new) from a Cutler in Australia.

Seem to remember it had 2x brass slotted screws in handle with exposed tang on top edge handle. Is my memory wrong?
Haven't seen any resembling it here.

I know it was wrong to sell it.. but it just didn't fit my smallish Man hands. I did keep the #18 and it served me well.
Still does.
Thanks, Wayne

Ok. So if I was to replace the #14 (7.5 inch)and I just don't like the finger groove handles, which would be the more comfortable in Micarta, Border Patrol or Finger groove (1x)?

Considering I have smallish hands, thinking towards the Border Patrol handle.
Opinions would be appreciated as I've not held either, let alone used one for long period.

My #5 7 inch just doesn't have the mass required for dealing with Jungle or coconuts. I want to down size from my current Bush knife (Busse Battle Mistress)which gets quite a workout when living on Tropical Islands for 6x months each year.
Thanks Wayne

Border patrol can still be turned "Blade up" in your hand where it feels weird with finger grips or single finger grips.
If that's not an issue I'd go with border patrol or single finger grip.

The border patrol is a very comfortable handle for sure, however I find that if your hands gets wet or muddy it gets pretty slippery, I like the finger grips for that reason, it's not coming out for you hand. Really it's what you like, and how and where you intend to use your knife. Just my two cents.

Thanks to those who have replied so far. Chief, your comment about rotating knife is particularly pertinent, as yes, this is something I do a lot when clearing track in Jungle. I know a machete or Cane knife would be "better" but if travelling by Sea Kayak, not really practical. A lot of thinner scrub responds to cutting more efficiently by using a upswing as gravity pushes stalk down against blade. The downside (!) is that it is very easy to rotate blade and slash Achilles tendon if not concentrating. Haven't done it, but am always aware of consequences of doing this in isolated area days away from help.

One for you to check out:

A real treat to see that one Crutch.

Very sexy knife Joe!
Got a picture of that in a 12-9?

WOW!

Good time for custom knife collecting

Bad time to be a Walrus.....

Very nice grouping. Great find TTB! I can’t tell but is he wearing the knife in the pic?

Love the History, if it could only talk, the stories it could tell. That group should always be together, Thanks for sharing Bill.

Eric, Here is the letter which accompanies the certificate. I have a 3 ring binder full of documents that go with the knife.

Outstanding piece Bill. IIRC, Rhett found that knife a long time ago. It could have been a similar one, but yours rings a bell.

Thanks Joe.
I knew that you would appreciate it too! Got a treasure trove of documents to go with the history!

Maybe knives can't talk..."but"...this one comes close. Nice piece Bill.
Best, Capt. Chris

Thank you.

Great Story AND knife!

Tony

TTB,

Has it all; Great knife and all the provenance with!

Tom Flynn

Have it in a Thorpe. Used to own it and trying to get it back. Most teeth on a single knife ever. Looking for a photo.

Cool Thanks!

This is my Model 14 that I got back in the early 80's. It was the first Randall knife I ever owned. It was part of my gear back when I was a LEO.

I have since passed it on to my son. He used it to cut the cake on the day he married my daughter:



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Bill--

Your Marine with his own SF detachnment was not the only Marine with the SF.

I worked over the years with Al DeProspero who started out as a Marine, worked with Bull Simon in Laos, etc.

He yanked over to Army and was a Major when I first met him, went to Ft. Bragg when he was promoted to Lieutenant Colonel and got a new command. He eventually retired as a Colonel.

I was in a meeting with him and other former SOF when Al noticed a book I brought along, said book being about SOG in Vietnam--Al then commenting to one of his cohorts across the table about having a trunkful of knives at home, with all the SOG knives having the points broken off. [Al "borrowed" my book,...wonder where it is today!]

Al always celebrated the Marine Corps' birthday with a cake whenever there was a get-together that coincided with that date.

Cross-overs between services make for better performance--something learned along the way.

Larry

I have no idea how many "crossover" men there were, but these articles from 1966 say that he was the first. Obviously, I never met the gentleman who owned this knife, and I was not the author of any of the provenance provided. But I believe it to all be true.

Thanks,
TB

#14 with Alternate Ivory. I really like that the forward curved hilt is longer on the blade edge end. After looking at the handle coloring, I know why RMK marked these blades with an A/I.

This is my oldest and I do not known exactly how old #14. Am having trouble matching spacers to date it. Not that it matters a lot but curious

There was a time when the shop had some bad spacers....they faded. This appears to be one of those knives. I think that this happened in the 80’s sometime. This sheath looks like a late Johnny Johnson sheath so I’m guessing late 80’s or very early 90’s.

Thank you Ronnie for the info. This knife went to the SHOP before it came to Australia. It was a bit rough

Hi, considering purchasing a #14 s/s with Border patrol handle. Did have a #14 30 yrs ago with finger grooves, but didn't fit my small hands well)
Q, do they have a full tang exposed on top, or are they a cut down concealed tang hidden in handle?
Thanks Wayne

By default they have the exposed tang.

You can get 14 in CDT (hidden in handle), but it's a chargeable option.

Here's a post with pic of someone's 14CDT: http://www.knifetalkforums.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=20048#Post20048

Hi Rob, thanks for that clarification.
Exposed tang is what I'm after.
Cheers Wayne

Here is two versions of the Model #14

The top is the full tang (exposed tang) version with Border Patrol handle. The bottom one is the CDT version with a Model #22 style handle.

Rob,

A correction to the clarification.

One can order or buy a Model 14, Full Tang.
Or one can buy a Model 14-CDT, Cut Down Tang.

The “Cut Down Tang” is not a chargeable option on the 14 or 15.

It is $15 less than a full-tang Model 14, however, it will come standard with a leather washer handle and duraluminum butt cap (like a Model 1), instead of black micarta with finger grips.

Ah. That's how it works. Thanks.

Hi Tom, thanks for clarification.
Cheers Wayne

Does anyone have a 14 with the border patrol handle that has the straight heavy hilt they can post a pic of? I can’t find this combination. Thanks guys!

Here you go Ross

Peter

Here's another, but this is a #1 style hilt.

Thanks guys!

I'm thinking (a rare moment) that if you order the "Border Patrol" Handle or the "Single Finger Grip" Handle on a Model 14 or 15, for example, that it will come standard with the #1-style double brass hilt instead of the expected Model 14 hilt.

If you are placing a Model 14 or Model 15 order and want the Model 14 double brass hilt, you need to specify you want your Model 14 with the "#14 Hilt" (14h). Requesting the #14 hilt with the border patrol or single finger grip is a non-chargeable option, so it doesn't count on the five maximum chargeable options.

So, if you wanted a Model 14 in stainless steel, single finger grip, green micarta, and a Model 14 brass hilt, the order would appear like this:

M14, SS, SFG, GM, 14h.

Hope this helps

The hilt remains full Buck unless otherwise specified.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris

Chris,

On my second to last order, I requested two 14’s in green micarta one with BPH & one with SFG. The BPH has the #1-style hilt and the SFG has the #14 hilt like the one in your photo.

I dug out the invoice, maybe the #1-style hilt applies only to the BPH.

I get a good amount of them and always "request" NS2(#1) when I want a #1 styled double hilt. Why would one come with and one without? The mystery continues...Scott was on vacation this past week. Perhaps, when he gets back in the shop, he'll let us know. FYI: I "prefer" the #1 style as it reduced excess weight. in my opinion.
Stay sharp, Capt. Chris
PS: RKCC NASA knives, specifically ordered with #1's...CCS

They're the cat's whiskers!

Those are a couple NASA beauties!

BPH always has a #1 hilt unless a 14H is requested...and vice-versa on the SFG

Just posted this bad-boy to my website. Cocoa Micarta, SFG, #18 style heavy nickel silver double hilt!
Best, Capt. Chris

That's a good looking knife....

Hard as hell to photograph though! Need too much lighting to tell the coloring of the Cocoa.
Thanks Mike, Capt. Chris

Do you have this in BPH?

Larry

Awesome, thanks for that.

That’s an awesome #14!

The Model 14 posted above by the Captain is no longer available. ;-)

You got a good one Jim, damn it was soooo tempting..

That was one beautiful 14! Congrats

Thanks guys. I only have one model 14 and it's a mid-60's knife I bought from the Tuna Meister. It's a great classic RMK but I have been wanting to get another more current 14 and that one reached out and grabbed me. Really cool what can be done with the different options for these knives. Thanks Cap.

Just thought I’d start sharing more…

A model 14 - 7-1/2 CDT, fighter style - standard handle in black micarta with brass double hilt and brass butt cap, RWB spacers. (The “Z” configuration in the catalog foldout but in SS).

Reminds me of a #1-8 on steroids.

The blade is massive, and the handle on this one is massive too (bigger and thicker than I usually see standard micarta on this sort of knife and with a more prominent "slab-side" shape). The #14 without sawteeth maintains its ¼” thickness nearly half-way up the blade’s spine, making it beefy as heck. Pictures don’t do it justice.

A very pretty but serious knife. Makes a hefty “fighter.”

Shown next to my #14 with white micarta FG handle, NS hilt and sawtooth option and next to a standard #1. The blade on this #14 CDT seems to dwarf these other two. (Even with the CDT, at 15.3 oz., it comes in nearly an ounce heavier than the full tang white handle #14 shown and almost 5 oz. heavier than the #1-8. It’s a big knife).

Thanks for looking, Gary

…

And another picture of the #14 - 7-1/2 with white micarta FG handle, oblong NS hilt, lined wrist thong, SS, sawteeth.

Thanks, Gary

...

Really like both of those Gary. Thanks for sharing.

brass butt adds weight.

Here's a model 14 that was offered for sale here a few years ago. I really wanted it but Guido beat me to it. I really like the look of that butt cap but, as far as I can determine, RMK does not currently offer that butt cap for the 14-style finger grip handle. I'm guessing that it was never generally available but was one of those things that was only rarely done. Anyway, pretty cool Model 14 IMO.

My question is why get that handle, the standard style, in a CDT option?

Absolutely available...Crutch; maybe because you can't get wood on a 14G?...

True. And it's a big chunk of brass too.

Gary

Ps. When I describe my #14 CDT with a "standard" handle, I mean general "standard shape handle" like you'd find on a #1, etc. It's not the standard style for the #14 - as Joe clarifies... that's the FG. Should have worded that better.

...

My classic Mod. 14 with stainless steel blade:

It looks like they are brothers, here the upper part of the blade is very similar to grinding 5-7 with teeth, these old blades look more evil than modern. Maybe it seems to me because of the lack of a choil, that seems to have been removed by sharpening/using.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101357636

Somebody ruined that blade. It almost appears it was done purposely, taking that much off the blade. It seems beyond "sharpening".

Plus, it is not brown micarta.

My Iraq 2008-2008 Vet

That is Former Delta Operator Tom Spooner. Runs Warrior Heart now. His mom was my 2nd grade teacher lol. Him and his brother Scot were in the Unit. I seen a photo of Scot's Model 1 with stag handle. Spoke with Tom and he said it is a 14

My new #14 CDT:

Vintage 'MAROON' ..My customer it from Jim Behring 20 years ago. Almost a light 'brown'.

The Model 14 was ordered last year & arrived last week.

Buck -

Behring put that handle on is what you are saying? RMK never offered full tang knives in maroon. At least I have never heard of one unless there was customer supplied material.

Joe,

I stand corrected and missed some punctuation and words. The line should have been:

Vintage 'Marooon' slotted handle material bought from Jim Behring 20 years ago. Almost a light 'brown'.

My customer furnished the micarta for a Model 14 ordered last year, that came last week from the Shop.

That is a good looking 14 for sure Buck, I like it a lot...

Buck,
do you remember what it looked like before going to the shop??
I may have a similar piece....
Thanks
:-)Rocky

Joe, didn't you have a "14 Heavy" with maroon micarta?

Wally -

Upon reading your post, I went back a looked thru some records/photos and found it. IIRC it was a CDT, not a slotted handle, but I am not certain though. After some more thought, I think it was a full tang.

http://www.rmkcollector.com/product-details/model-14-heavy


Good Memory you have

Rocky,

Seems to me it was all the same shade of maroon, as if it had been polished before I got it.

crap!!!
I wonder what it is that I have,,,, I was hoping..
Thanks Buck
:-)Rocky

My new one from the stock sale:

My new #14 CDT, recently received from Clinton Knives.
Stainless Blade, Brass Forward Curved Hilt, RWB Spacers, Stag,
Brass Butt Plate, Wrist Thong, Waxed Sheath.

NICE!!!

:-)Rocky

Rocky,
I emailed you. Please give me a call.
Thanks,
Capt. Chris

Craig--

Your photography does it justice.

Nice knife.

Larry

Great pic!

Tom Flynn

Very nice knife and pic Craig!!

New #14 CDT, recently received from Clinton Knives.
01 Carbon Steel, Brass Double Hilt, RWB Spacers, Stag,
Wrist Thong, Waxed Sheath.

Nice!

Serious stag.

Larry

That is a great piece of stag for sure!
Walker

Nice!!!!

Is this handle legit?

Browsing the Bay and found this Solingen Model 14, seller says came out of a local estate.

The handle is "unique" with downturned butt on the Micarta, three pins along the top of the Micarta, and layered pieces of Micarta (see the under-view image of the handle).

Is it "shop original" or a re-do?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266032713763?hash=item3df0c91023:g:M78AAOSwf9NjjSdB&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4CsuAGudx7AvGbu4ZvWWtpNZJUlGRnRo3vVzh%2FbQgh9vuMTVXshR3Pnr8KJDP6TzCpodCme0yi%2Bp4bC8kULbBttb575iBMDANwV2RceFSZijm1WhJTLC6c52a9MAFN1ISsMyI0d%2BJRbZuI1ioTZkxtADi4oEJdItzmyX2BVHMWNoLRZe1CWLdvvydMfMCgAAnqxp2LjFXBsKYslEA4PVTllyTN6OHTGBrajknROe%2Ftjd0BuzZvG9IfSvLVb1LP%2Bnl45GnWyR5BFyRfv5%2FiEWVWzS8sWb04egAPj4PVc%2B5mpL%7Ctkp%3ABFBMsM3DmqBh

Larry

Correction...

It appears to be a Model 15.

The seller does not specify, but looking again the blade appears to be a 15.

Larry

not from the shop in any universe

I looked for anything to indicate it was a kit blade, but did not see it.

Larry

CDT:

Model 14, SS, Brass Hilt-Single, Scalloped Collar, Ironwood, Finger Grips, Scalloped Butt Cap, Black Model B Sheath.

A real beauty there Buck

Nicely done Buck! Very cool options.

Pap

Now that is a beautiful 14!

That’s a looker.
Walker

New here. New to Randalls. Here is my first RMK.

I believe it’s a Vietnam Era 1965 Model 14 Attack Sawback Single filled bolt Hole.
Do you all think it is Brown Micarta or Black?
Is this sheath considered a “Johnson Split Back”?
Seems like it may have some value…
Any info would be appreciated ! Thanks
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It is black Micarta and it is a split back. The lap seam below the two big rivets is the "split".

Great old knife! The teeth are more rare on a knife that early.

it's a nice one!!!

:-)Rocky

tunefink, thanks for the clarification on the color and sheath!

Thanks rocky.

A very nice example of an early 14, has a lot going for it, it's a keeper.

Welcome to the forum!

Rocky,

The color of micarta is hard to identify. I have two boxes of it I bought from Jim Behring several years ago. Some of it is easy to identify, some not so much. I am going to be moving some of it along but I'm not sure how to do that so the buyer gets what he thinks he is buying.

TTB...
no fooling...it's hard to figure....Back when I bought....I just bought basically all they had....didn't care about the "end color"....now, I've got a bunch of blocks that I have no idea what they will look like...????

:-)Rocky