Knife Of The Week Model 13
Posted by: vklough46
Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/06/08 09:02 AM
Thanks to all who have participated thus far. We've seen some beautiful examples of Randall-Made knives. I hope no one has tridecaphobia.
From
Randall Made Knives: The History of the Man and the Blades by Robert L. Gaddis, pp. 136-137
Quote:
Interest in this unusual style of fighting knife was also attributable to The Iron Mistress movie. One of the action sequences involved a knife fight between James Bowie, played by Alan Ladd, and the barkeep of a rough-and-tumble frontier tavern. The barkeep pulled out a long straight-bladed, needle-pointed stiletto, which was referred to as an "Arkansas toothpick." Naturally, Jim Bowie and his famous knife won that battle also.
After receiving a few inquiries in the mail, Bo decided he should make up a similar style knife....
Bo called the Arkansas Toothpick the "Model 13," and for its standard style, he gave it the same lugged hilt and leather washer handle as the Model 12 bowies. The blade length, width, and shape have not varied from the first one to the present....
The Arkansas Toothpick has never been as popular as the large bowies are. In fact, the 12-inch style is seldom ordered these days. When Bo brought out a smaller version in the early 1960s, sales of the Model 13 greatly increased. This small toothpick had a 6-inch blade and made a good self-defense dagger or a mighty fine letter opener. Bo opened all of his mail with a special one made in the mid-1960s by the shop crew and presented to him as a gift.
Lady and gentlemen, may we please see some Model 13s?
Kevin
Posted by: tunefink
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/06/08 10:17 AM
This is the only one I have in my collection..... what else.
Old Black Micarta, 7 spacers..... a late 60's knife.
Posted by: Hagsjr
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/06/08 10:47 AM
Model 13-12, 1960's
Wish I still had it.
Jerry
Posted by: silverknife
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/06/08 11:37 AM
Engraving-Ron Skaggs
Scrimshaw-Gatean Beauchamp
Silver Fittings-Me
Regards, Doug
Posted by: vklough46
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/06/08 12:17 PM
Great 13s guys.
Doug, your scrimshaw depicts one of my favorite American heroes.
Kevin
Posted by: silverknife
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/06/08 12:53 PM
Posted by: silverknife
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/06/08 12:57 PM
Quote:
Doug, your scrimshaw depicts one of my favorite American heroes.
Really? That's a reproduction of a photograph I snapped of Chief at Blade last year when he was found out that no one had any ivory Clinton Specials for sale. 
Regards, Doug
Posted by: vklough46
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/06/08 01:11 PM
And I thought that he had that sour look on his face because he was being displaced from his land by the American government.
Kevin
Posted by: Chief
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/06/08 11:17 PM
The look is cause I was out of Bullets!!!
See Ya, Chief
Posted by: patrickjames
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/07/08 11:51 PM
Here's mine. The handle's a little crooked, but it fits my hand just fine.
Posted by: vklough46
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/08/08 06:40 AM
Thanks Patrick.
What a beautiful knife.
Kevin
Posted by: BOB_TEATES
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/08/08 07:01 AM
Here's mine, It's the only #13 I have
Posted by: vklough46
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/08/08 11:39 AM
Nice knife Bob.
Is that walnut?
Kevin
Posted by: BOB_TEATES
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/08/08 12:06 PM
Thanks Kevin, yes it's walnut.for anyone who never held a #13-12 in their hand,It feels like the most lethal knife I've handled.It's so pointy and sharp I believe you could jam it through a car door.
Posted by: CBW
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/08/08 03:54 PM
The model 13 is one of my favorites. Here is a 13-12 and a 13-12 miniature. Both have old Westinghouse micarta handles and roughback sheaths. The miniature has a stainless steel blade with Randall stamp and a separate S.
Chris Walker
RKS #5398
Posted by: CBW
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/08/08 04:08 PM
Here are some 13-6's, left to right:
- Ironwood, stainless and nickel silver fittings.
- Old Westinghouse micarta, tool steel and brass fittings.
- Rosewood, tool steel, brass hilt, nickel silver collar and duralumin collie cap.
- Maple, stainless steel, nickel silver hilt, black and aluminum spacers and duralumin collie cap.
Chris Walker
RKS #5398
Posted by: CBW
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/08/08 04:32 PM
One more, a 13-12 with ironwood and brass fittings.
Chris Walker
RKS #5398
Posted by: vklough46
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/08/08 08:35 PM
What a great assortment of 13s Chris.
It is obvious that you don't suffer from tridecaphobia.
Kevin
Posted by: CBW
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/08/08 11:20 PM
Kevin, thanks for the comments and after looking up tridecaphobia, no its never bothered me!!!!! I guess I hadn't even thought about the connection.
Chris
RKS #5398
Posted by: michianaman
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 01/09/08 01:37 PM
This one has been posted before.
Standard 13 carbon-Heiser sheath-
Posted by: boardrider
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/20/12 04:27 PM
Did anyone see the #13 that closed recently on ebay with the 5 inch blade? I personally did not know they made that length...
it was ebay#330702535532
Posted by: tunefink
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/20/12 04:39 PM
I missed that one...... Odd length for sure. Based on the sheath stitching it's a late 80's early 90's knife....
Would that "Johnson" (Johnson Law for an eBay handle?) be one you & I know from the Blade show Mitchell? Definately a Johnny Johnson sheath. 1986 or newer...would be my guess.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tunefink
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/20/12 06:51 PM
I am not putting the handle together with a face Cap........
Posted by: Skeetdoc
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/06/12 03:10 PM
Will park a picture of my 13-6 here for posterity.
Stainless, Forward Curved Hilt, Nickel Hilt, Black Micarta, Metal Spacers, Nickel Butt Cap. Page 165 of Sheldon Wickersham's Book. (Same Knife).
Brown stitching on sheath not available anymore.
Posted by: TonyLaPetri
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/06/12 04:14 PM
Hey Doc,
Great looking #13!
And really nice photo. I like the reflection. The lighting brings out the grain in the Micarta beautifully.
Tony
Posted by: Skeetdoc
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/06/12 04:45 PM
Thank you kind sir.
Tis difficult to get black micarta to photo well for me.
Posted by: Oldvetnam1
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/06/12 05:38 PM
Doc,
You're photos are really good.
Posted by: Skeetdoc
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/06/12 05:44 PM
Thank you Steve.
I probably should have bought a DSLR but this little pocket camera does
more than I will ever figure out.
Posted by: Jim459
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 02/20/13 09:07 PM
Here is an attempt at a Faisal set. It wasn't too cold out today, but cloudy, and the light was soft, so I took the opportunity to pair the toothpick with a near twin Smitty.
Posted by: Oldvetnam1
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 02/21/13 07:57 AM
That's a beautiful pair of knives Jim. Fantastic.
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/03/13 09:34 PM
New model 13-12 and 13-6 similarly equipped. It appears that there is a double black spacer by the hilt on the 13-6 and it looks really cool.
I am amazed how great they turned out. Thanks Randall craftsmen.
Peter
Posted by: Duke
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/03/13 10:50 PM
Both are Beautiful, Peter! But what material might those handles be made out of?
Posted by: boardrider
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/03/13 11:17 PM
Sure looks like really nicely figured ironwood, is it and was it shop supplied?
Posted by: Oldvetnam1
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/04/13 04:53 AM
Great pair of knives Peter.
Posted by: Steven
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/04/13 10:48 AM
That double black spacer is cool. I am a little surprised that you had Ironwood for your handles.
Posted by: TonyLaPetri
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/04/13 11:58 AM
Nice pair Peter.
I forgot ... are you an ironwood fan?
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/04/13 04:07 PM
Thanks guys
of course it is ironwood, my favorite wood. It is dealer supplied though, since the model 13 is one of the least made knives, I wanted some great figure in the wood, since I won't be getting any more Toothpicks
Peter
Posted by: JE6245
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 05/11/15 02:10 PM
New arrival from RMK. Maroon micarta with brass hardware. Definitely a medieval feel to this model. Not really a very practical model so I doubt that I would ever use or carry it but I will definitely enjoy admiring it. I think I'll need to add the big brother before too long.
Posted by: crutchtip
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 05/11/15 03:57 PM
You might want to think about adding this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141658546439Heckuva buy, actually a steal, for a nice early one with good options.
Posted by: Chief
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 05/11/15 09:50 PM
I like those forward curve hilts very nice!!
Posted by: JE6245
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 05/12/15 09:39 AM
Agree about the forward curved hilts Chief. I'm not a big fan of lugged hilts even on the large knives but on a small model they just don't seem to work at all, at least not for me.
Posted by: GHD
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 08/27/15 07:30 PM
Here's my model 13, picked it up a couple of years ago.
Posted by: tunefink
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 08/27/15 10:24 PM
Separate S. Very nice.
Posted by: Buckspen
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 08/28/15 10:36 AM
Here is an interesting Toothpick. Well, the knife is pretty standard but the inscription is interesting.
- Buckspen
Chip used to shoot on Gary Randall and Hal DuPont's skeet team. He sold most of his Randall knives through Perry. Quite a few were sold, over the past few years.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Buckspen
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 08/28/15 01:10 PM
Thanks for that bit of info, Cap. I knew Youngblood was a champ sheet shooter, but didn't know that.
- - -Buckspen
Posted by: tomthbomb
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 08/28/15 11:27 PM
I have one acquired on eBait from a person who was in semi-high office in a state bordering Texas. I don't include his name because he had some legal issues and more importantly we sent Special Fighter boxes to his son in Iraq.
Seems I was really into old yeller and antique gold micarta back then.
Posted by: Buckspen
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 08/30/15 07:05 PM
I got this one recently from Miles Welze. I like it because it has the traditional spacer arrangement which is seldom seen on the big knives.
- - -Buckspen
Posted by: Tattoo Bill
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 08/30/15 07:12 PM
A couple if Model 13's with their Model 12 brothers!
Posted by: Tattoo Bill
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 08/30/15 07:16 PM
My Model 13-4" miniature
There are inconsistencies in Pete's book. One of which would involve the example below. An Arkansas Toothpick in a Clarence Moore sheath.
Historical ref: According to Bob Gaddis and the Randall records, the 1st #13's came to be in April of 1953. According to Pete's book, a bit more generalized granted, Moore sheaths were used from the late 1930's into the 1940's. It is difficult to use the defense of "1st one in...last one used" for this Moore sheath. It could not have been "in" at all earlier than the early 1950's.
Safe to say, regardless of exactly "when".."THIS" is a scarce find! All the brass "tricked-out" fitting and hardware, along with an elephant ivory handle and a "no hone" Moore!
Enjoy, Capt. Chris
PS: I picked this up from a colleague and customer "after" the Gator show had closed on Sunday...and "just" before he left the show. ( I gave everybody their chance)!!!
CCS
Posted by: W Polidori
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/05/16 09:17 PM
Capt.,
What a great 13, however I don't know much about this model. Would it be common for the stamp to face in the opposite direction? You did good at Lakeland, I guess I should have stayed longer that afternoon. Thanks for sharing a really exceptional example.
The reverse blade trademark, as well as name etching, is testament to the fact that this toothpick was probably half of a Faisal set. The "left" positioned knife would have the the opposing blade trademark so that it would display properly with the large Bowie located on the right. This has been evident with blades of this configuration in the past. I don't believe it can be ordered this way today but I am not sure of that. Nice toothpick though, no doubt.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: TAH
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/07/16 09:09 AM
I'm not into Toothpicks, but that thing it beautiful.
Posted by: Whiteman
My first 13. - 03/23/16 07:35 PM
Been looking for some "Old Yeller" for a few years and wanted it on a big knife. Looks great on this big 13.
Posted by: TAH
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/23/16 07:39 PM
I'm not into Toothpicks, but that thing it beautiful.
Okay, Whiteman, I think I'm into Toothpicks now.
Posted by: Tattoo Bill
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/23/16 07:51 PM
You need to add the other one to it like this! lol
Posted by: Chief
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/23/16 08:19 PM
I have never laid eyes on or held a big toothpick, hardly see them out at shows! Might be why I don't own one. I used to say the same thing about 19's, but blade fixed that!!
Posted by: W Polidori
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/23/16 08:50 PM
Nice Westinghouse pair Bill. Awesome score!
Posted by: tunefink
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/23/16 09:09 PM
Great knife Randy. When you ge the itch to scratch more old yellow..... let me know.
Posted by: Chief
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/23/16 09:56 PM
Randy is the only guy I know of who gets into fishing situations about RMK's! LOL
Posted by: Eric
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/25/17 10:31 AM
Model 13 6" with Commando handle. My Colt 1911 turned 100 this year.
Posted by: Tattoo Bill
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/25/17 02:24 PM
Model 13 6" with Commando handle. My Colt 1911 turned 100 this year.
Is that polished stag?
Posted by: RamKingJC
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/25/17 02:25 PM
Looks like the 1 Gary recently had on his site... gooooood lookin #13
Posted by: Eric
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/25/17 04:13 PM
Thanks James. Yes, it is polished stag and I did get it from Gary.
I never knew how rare this handle shape is in polished stag.
Plus Gary gave me a great deal.
Posted by: Chief
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/25/17 04:51 PM
Can we get a shot of the butt? Hard to get that handle shape done in stag and not hit the "fluff" as I call it.
Posted by: Eric
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/25/17 06:35 PM
Chief, Here it is.
Posted by: Chief
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 04/25/17 07:38 PM
Thanks, solid hard to find with that small a "whatever hunters call it"!
Posted by: tomthbomb
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 05/01/17 10:35 PM
Model 13 6" with Commando handle. My Colt 1911 turned 100 this year.
Really nice 13 but that 1911, dayum! My real weakness!
Posted by: tomthbomb
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/16/20 07:34 PM
Several years ago I bought this model 13 from a nice man from Louisiana. We sent boxes to his son in Iraq when we were doing the Special Fighter project is how I got to know him. At some point, he moved to Oklahoma and I lost contact with him.
The reason I am posting this photo is that it is a nice looking model 13 with AGM, which I am very fond of, and to ask how I can determine if the buttcap is aluminum or nickel silver.
Seems to be a simple question but I have be away from Randalls for a while and I need to refresh my expertise.
Posted by: LarryWW1246
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/16/20 08:15 PM
Tom--
Others can help, but I think the color on the two alloys is different.
The aluminum has more of a whitish silver color when polished, and tending toward dull sheen and sometimes gray when it gets a bit of tarnish.
Nickle silver has more of a yellow color to it because of the copper in it, and tarnishes yellow so at times it looks like brass.
Also, nickel silver is heavier.
Larry
Posted by: Dirty_Water
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/16/20 08:34 PM
It is duraluminum...
Posted by: tomthbomb
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/16/20 09:01 PM
Thanks Scott. That makes it a four option knife, right?
5 options Tom
* Stainless
* Nickel silver double hilt
* Smooth nickel silver collar
* AGM (Commando @ no charge)
* DB (Duralumin butt cap
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Chief
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/17/20 06:57 PM
Thought DB was standard?
Posted by: Dirty_Water
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/17/20 07:08 PM
When the standard handle is changed the buttcap becomes an option...
Posted by: tomthbomb
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/17/20 08:57 PM
Thanks guys. When was AGM last offered by the shop? It's my favorite micarta and I do like micarta.
Posted by: Michael_Mason
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/17/20 09:40 PM
Thanks guys. When was AGM last offered by the shop? It's my favorite micarta and I do like micarta.
I’m thinking around 2008..?
Posted by: Chief
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 03/17/20 09:59 PM
When the standard handle is changed the buttcap becomes an option...
Thanks
Posted by: desert.snake
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 06/27/20 05:29 AM
Interesting observation, yesterday I was considering a treatise * Opus Amplissimum de Arte Athletica (Cod.icon. 393) * by Paulus Hector Mair ~ 1540 year.
The pictures seemed very similar to me, I took one and put it on top. The fact that this is a very ancient form, that's for sure, I saw the same blades from the Bronze Age, but the coincidence of the ratio of the lengths of the blade, and even the cross-sectional profile of the blade, the handle and the width of the guard (except for the shock pommel) is very surprising and pleasing.
Posted by: BladesNBarrels
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 06/27/20 10:48 AM
You have been stuck inside too long1
Posted by: Chief
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 06/27/20 11:34 AM
It was/is the perfect design for pushing through the joints of armor.
Posted by: LarryWW1246
Re: Knife Of The Week Model 13 - 06/27/20 02:17 PM
Chief--
Also the eyes.
When armored soldiers were injured or wounded and laying on the ground, whoever came across a live one would stab them in the eyes to finish them off.
Larry
