Randall "ordering" questions

Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 10:57 AM

Hello, all of you Randallholics!
As I stated at the "Blade" show this year, being asked to speak as an "expert" on Randall knife ordering and available "options and limits" is quite hillarious! Ya'll will be able to fill volumes with what I do "not" know! Having started out with the huge disclaimer, I am attempting to, at the request of your RKS "host", cover some of the particulars involved in ordering your Randall knives. This is a large topic and encompasses a great deal of material. So, even though we will be continually having to wake Perry Miller up, I am going to try and assist you good folks with your ordering questions and problems. I promise you, I will not have all of the answers to all of your questions. I "will" find out and post the most accurate responses I can. This thread will more than likely be very active at first and then see interest drop off. That is just to be expected. Hopefully Rhett can pin it to the top, so it can be added to and be made readily available for folks to refer back to, therefore assisting them in choosing proper options and limits for their particular Randall knife order.
Some do's and do not's: PLEASE: Ask any questions you might have, but try not to ask my "opinion" of which knife to order or what Randall to use for what purpose. I will be happy to answer those questions, via my regular email address "only". I do not want to start huge debates over this model being "better" for this task, etc. Randall knives are very personal and some folks feel more defensive towards their "pet" Randall. That's just great and all a part of the Randall collecting and using thing...but nobody is going to come out right or wrong by debating this within this thread. This thread is here to help you answer ordering and option questions...only!! If you wish to seek advice on what Randall model will work for your particular task or need, we can always start a different thread, or ya'll can email me at: [email]CAPTSTANABACK@aol.com.[/email]
Lastly: I am not doing this to promote my business. I am doing this because I have been asked to do this. If you folks contact me about taking orders for Randall knives, I will put you in touch with the nearest "authorized" Randall dealer to your location that sells Randall knives at catalog price...just the same as the Randall shop does...same policy.
I hope everyone takes something positive away from this thread...and...Perry: Enjoy the rest, buddy. Hope you wake up refreshed often!! Best, Captain Chris Stanaback
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 11:14 AM

To "stain..or not to stain"...
Several Randall Made Knives are available in 01 Swedish tool steel (carbon steel) only. Several are available in 440 (stainless steel) only. Here is a short list. I will probably have to add to this list, but shooting from the hip: This is the first "shot":

Stainless steel only:
A)Model #6, "Carving set"
B)Model #10's "Saltwater utilities"(all 3 blade lengths)
C)Model #16, "Diver's"
D)Model #17, "Astro"
E)Model #22-4 5/8", "Outdoorsman"
F)Model #24-4", "Guardian"
G)Model "GTR"
H)Model "Small Gambler"
I)Model #16-7", "Special #1 fighter"
J)Model "Triathelete"
I)Model "Fireman"
Randall knves available in carbon steel "only"

A) Model #12-11", "Confederate"
B) Model #12-13", "Raymond Thorpe"
C) Model #12-11", "Heavy"..or "Smithsonian"
D) Model #13-12", "Large Arkansas Toothpick"

I hope this helps you folks choose which models you wish to order, and I hope it is "complete" enough. I did not list "dealer" specials. You should contact your individual Randall dealer for availability...Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 02:20 PM

Well, now:
That didn't take long to foul up! An addition to the "carbon steel only" previously mentioned, add:
Model #12-9", "Sportsman's" bowie.
The confusion starts when you look at all Model #12-9's. The "Model #14" style is "standard" with 01 Swedish tool steel, but has the option of stainless steel on "that forging...only"! The traditonal BCP (bowie clip point) model, pictured in the Randall catalog on page #15 is "carbon steel only"!
Additionally, as long as we are on the subject of #12-9", the #14 grind, be it carbon or stainless, comes standard with same handle as the regular Model #12-9", "Sportsman" bowie, i.e. a leather handle! The 3 piece handle (Model #25 style) is a $55.00 upgrade on that #12-9". "SO": If you look at the pricing for a Model #12-9". #14 at a catalog price of $485.00, keep in mind that this means a Model #14 "clip" point, carbon steel blade, brass double hilt, leather handle, duralumin butt cap and red, white and blue spacers. Anything else, stainless, 3 piece handle, etc. is a "chargeable" option: $55.00 for the handle and $55.00 for the stainless!! I hope this reads clear to you folks. Any questions: Feel free to ask them in a post. Perhaps someone else has the same question and we can help more than one Randall knife freak with one reply. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Rhett Stidham

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 02:26 PM

I have unpinned this thread for now as it was all the way on top and the Captain and I feel someone might think it was an old topic. We will let it run here as it should stay pretty active and near the top. If it starts to drift I will pin it to the top again.

Regards,

Rhett
Posted by: Perry Miller

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 04:32 PM

Quote:

I have unpinned this thread for now as it was all the way on top and the Captain and I feel someone might think it was an old topic



I got old just trying to read the thing
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 06:47 PM

Perry,
It would go faster...and a lot easier on ya' if you would have Marie read the multi-syllable words to ya'. Just trying to help there buddy! Best, Capt. Chris

P.S. Everyone that cares: Later: We will discuss spacers!! Any questions? CCS
Posted by: 7033grip

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 07:07 PM

Captain, when the "Big Lake" level went down so far, did they ever find the hole that you dumped your non-paying clients in?

Did you use a Mercury, Johnson, or Evinrude to weight them down?

Dubie Baxter
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 07:22 PM

A FEW BLADE QUESTIONS
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On what knives, or under what circumstances, can the normally UNsharp top of a knife blade (false edge?) be ordered sharpened?
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Which top edges that are normally sharpened can be ordered NOT sharpened? ...as in states where only one sharp edge is legal?
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I have seen both very coarse sawteeth and fine sawteeth on different Randall knives. Can a buyer specify which type he wants, or must he just take the luck of the draw?
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Which blades can be ordered as spear-points? ...like the sawteeth/no-teeth shape.
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Can a knife be ordered with a different choil configuration? Deeper or longer, to make sure a fat finger will fit?
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The Model #6 blade grind can sometimes be seen on other knives, for instance the Model #7 and (I think) the Model #3. Is this available on all lengths of the #3? ...is it also available on other models (#4)? ...again, for all lengths?
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Thanks for doing this, Capt. Chris.
(and please stay awake, Perry!)
-Steve
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 08:15 PM

Steve,
My computer just kicked me off and came up with an "expired page", causing me to loose all my reponses after I worked an hour on them! I'll just plain get to this later, In the future, how about one question at a time?
Best for now, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 08:22 PM

SPEAR POINTS:
Randall knives that are available with a "spear point" are as follows:
A) Model #14, when ordered with a "sawteeth / no sawteeth" grind...Code "ST/NST"
B) Model #15 when ordered same as (A)
C) Model #16, "Diver's", but "not" the #16 "special fighter"
D) Model #18, both blade lengths when ordered same as (A)
E) Model "Combat Companion"
F) Both size "Gamblers"
G) "Fireman"
Please folks: If anyone finds any errors in these popsts, please email me and I will research them further. All of this is being pulled from an old brain. Keep that in mind. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/07 09:17 PM

Top bevels:
The models that can be ordered with a TB (top bevel sharpened) are:
A) Model #3
B) Model #4
C) Model #5 D. Both size "Gamblers"
I'm sure there "used" to be more, but these are the only ones that come to mind..current day. Again: I'll make sure, but these models I have had accepted for TB in the past.


"Un-sharpened" false edges. To the best of my knowledge, any Randall can be ordered to comply with the "odd" laws, even "Stilettos".. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Peter63

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/07 01:33 AM

Capt. Chris,

can you explain please on which models the squared top feature on single hilts is available; I´ve never been able to figure that out; on models 15 for instance I have seen both versions. Thanks in advance .

Best wishes
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/07 08:34 AM

Sawteeth......and Finger Choils:

Dave Griffin explained the variations in sizes in sawteeth as depending upon where and when they were installed on the wheel. A brand new wheel would cut smaller teeth. As the wheel became worn, the gap between the teeth became larger and farther apart. I would think by now that 2 wheels are being used, as I get knives out on the same order with "both" size teeth. I'll double check. It "could be" that the fourteen room has a different size wheel than the main room, as models #14,#15,#16 and #18's seem to be a different size.
I know that back a few years ago you could request "long" finger choils. I have been told "no" lately. I will tell you that 1/4" stock hunting knives, with 6" or longer blades, almost always have a long enogh choil for clearance of my fingers, which are fairly good size.
Hope that helps in your ordering...and..Next time in the shop...I'll double check these answers. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/07 08:40 AM

"SQUARE"-TOP SINGLE HILTS:

I like 'em! Some folks don't...but they are available on any Randall model that is available with a single hilt. You have to request them..code, for example for a brass single hilt and a squared top is..."BH1 (SQH)". Thanks for your question, Capt. Chris

P.S. If you look at photos in the catalog, you will still see squared top hilts, even though the standard, "round" single hilt will come on the knife if a squared one is not "specifically" requested...CCS
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/07 09:11 AM

#6 GRINDS:
First of all: Let's take a look at which models already come with a grind similar to the Model #6. Besides the #6-4 1/2", "Steak Knife" and 6-9", "Carver", you also have:

A) All 3 Model #10's (3",5",7"), but "not" the 3" "Drop Point"
B) Model #11's are very close, although a bit of a bevel difference on the top.
C) Models "20 and #21.
D) Model #22
E) "GTR" Special
F) "Denmark" Special

Besides the above-mentioned. you can order both blade lengths of Model #7's, 4 1/2" and 5" either in carbon or stainless steel. You can also order a Model #4-6" in carbon steel. The Model #3 used to be available with a #6 grind, but is not available at this time.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/07 11:03 AM

Thanks, Capt. Chris, your answers are appreciated!
...and I will keep it to one question at a time in the future.
-Steve
Posted by: Steven

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/07 11:34 AM

Just got a model #4 7" with top bevel sharpened.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/19/07 08:09 PM

Just tried to post up regarding "spacers" and the various combinations available, but this server kicked me out again. I'll try it one at a time later. Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. In the meantime: If anyone has "spacer" questions: Let's hear 'em. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Swordsman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/19/07 08:33 PM

Have a question about finger grips on leather handles (bottom and side) and the different buttcaps that would go with them.

Thanks

Tom V.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/19/07 08:58 PM

Right or left handed finger grips are available on stock of 1/4" or larger. Single finger grip option is available on 3/16" and larger.
Model #14-styled finger grips (underneath) are available on 1/4" and larger. I'll address the butt caps in another post as these things expire rapidly. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/19/07 09:03 PM

Butt caps:
Standard butt caps or rounded butt caps are available with finger grips. With "single finger grips" the butt cap may be a bit "flared" at the end, following the contour of the handle. "no" crow's beak butt caps with finger grips. I do not think "coolie" caps or "flanged" butt caps are available either...but, of course..I'll check. Hope this helps, Capt. Chris

P.S. The Randall shop is asking all dealers to limit nickel silver butt caps and collars, so I am not taking anymore orders for these. I am only telling you the shop's wishes, folks..Please don't shoot the messenger. CCS
Posted by: New2Randalls

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/07 04:41 PM

Captain, do you know what the reason behind no finger grooves when a crows peak butt cap is order?
Thanks,

Dan Snyder
Posted by: michianaman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/22/07 07:50 PM

Can a model 6 9" be had with a scalloped brass collar and a scalloped brass (coolie) cap.
Thanks..
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/07 11:56 AM

Dan,
It is my understanding that the crow's beak butt cap interferes with the proper installation of the finger grips, more specifically, the "final" finger grip. In the past the shop did cut finger grips in stag handles with crow's beaks. They also had more time to do this. They also did a worse job on soldering the hilts. I guess everything is a compromise...Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. "Flanged" butt caps cannot be ordered with a handle that has finger grips installed. A "scalloped" butt cap or a "coolie" (smooth) cap "can" be ordered with finger grips on hunting knives of 1/4" stock. Model #2's. etc. cannot....CCS
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/07 11:59 AM

Jeff,
Yes: On both counts. Also nickel silver collars (smooth, of course) and duralumin smooth "coolie" caps are "doable" options.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/07 12:11 PM

Handle materials:
The Randall shop can supply some of the finest handle materials available today! Any handle material supplied from the shop carries with it a lifetime warranty. If you should elect to use other handle materials they must meet certain dimension requirements and are installed "as is...where is", meaning no guarantees of any kind. This is particularly important with fragile materials, such as ivory and pearl. Be aware of this before deciding to use these fine materials.
Secondly...Does anyone want to take a stab at exactly "what" the Randall shop has on hand for you to choose from?? Go ahead, Give it a shot...OR: If you have a question about a specific material you are contemplating buying for a Randall knife install, or need to know which "size" piece to buy for that special Randall knife you are considering...please feel free to ask. This is your forum...and there ain't no dumb questions out there on this topic! (there might be some dumb questions on another topic however)...Best for now, Capt. Chris
Posted by: New2Randalls

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/07 05:12 PM

Captn, thanks for the explaination. I think I'll try ordering my next randall with the finger grooves and a coalie butt cap. Perhaps a Model 1 or 3 with a 6 or 7 inch blade.
Posted by: michianaman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/07 07:37 PM

Thanks Capt. appreciate your reply.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/09/07 03:19 PM

Randall handle material is being brought up in another thread. It's a good time to go over something that I am asked a good deal of the time, and it relates to "both" threads. Handle material and "size" requirements.
If the Randall shop is supplying the handle material you have nothing to worry about. If it is CW (customer-supplied handle material) you need to be careful of "what" and "what size" stuff to send them. I will start this post by telling you that handle dimensions vary from time to time. This is the "latest": straight from the Randall shop.
Small knives (5" blades or less) made from 3/16" stock require a block which measures...at "MINIMUM"...1"..X..1"..X..4 1/2". This will cover your Model #2-4" & 5", Small stiletto/ boot knife/ letter opener, Model #4-4 1/2", "Small Hunting knife, Model #5-4", Small Camp & Trail, Model #7-4 1/2" or 5", "Fisherman/ Hunter, Model #8-4", Trout & Bird, Model #11, Alaskan Skinners, with a 3 1/4" or 4" blade, Model #21-3 1/4", Little Game, Model #24-4", Guardian, Model #26-4", "Pathfinder".
Non-catalog models, such as a "Denmark Special", "GTR", and "Old-style" Trout and Bird are also covered in this requirement. Any questions...just post 'em here. More later. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Rhett Stidham

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/09/07 05:58 PM

Captain,

Good friend John Bingen was in the store Saturday and as we were comparing belly scars ( yes, my belly is way bigger than his)he shows me a Model 15 with a real accentuated clip point top area or swedge.

Just now when I called you, you informed me this was indeed a true Randall option. So, since you know far better than I how about going into detail on this Randall option?

Regards,

Rhett
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/09/07 08:13 PM

Rhett...and all other Randall knife freaks out there:
For those purest who believe that a "true" fighter needs to look like a bowie knife....AND...For those folks who are in love with the upgrades and designs of Bo's "Vietnam" fighters, there is a compromise offered by the Randall shop. It is known as the "BCP". This ordering option, meaning "bowie clip point", is available on the Model #14-7 1/2", "Attack" and the Model #15-5 1/2", "Airman"! What you get when ordering this option is a true Bowie clip point, versus the standard "straight" clip point normally associated with these 2 fine knives.
It makes for a unique collaboration of old and new. A full, exposed, tang extremely durable fighting tool, with the old bowie "shape". No strength is sacrificed and the results is very pleasing to the eye. You cannot order the "BCP" option with the sawteeth installed, but you "can" order it with either stainless steel or carbon steel. You can get 4 finger grip, single finger grip or border patrol styled grip. Also: Brass or nickel silver double hilts in standard 1/4" straight configuration or forward curved, as well as the Model #1 (lighter) style of double hilt! On top of this, black micarta or green linen micarta are both available from the Randall shop. A wrist thong is still standard as is a model "C" sheath. The sheath can be ordered in tan, black or waxed and with or without the hone pocket.
All in all, the "BCP" makes for a very way-cool Randall and due to it's relative obscurity, a more scarce piece. I hope this answers your question. Any more questions? Just post 'em up! Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 7033grip

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/09/07 08:22 PM

Captain, this may sound stupid, but have you ever seen a Model 1 with a Bowie clip point?

With an eight inch blade, I think it would make a long, lean, mean, fighting machine.

I have a model 1 on order, and I would like to add this option. This is probably a DW question, but since we were on BCP's, what the hey.

Dubie Baxter
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/09/07 08:39 PM

Dubie,
It may very well be "doable", but, as with many things in life, I am not an "expert". I am not sure there are real "experts" out there..Just folks who know a little bit about this or a little bit about that. I'll check and find out and post up within a day or so. Please folks: Try not to call the shop with a pile of questions. That's what we are trying to avoid by utilizing this question and answer thread. Thanks, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/09/07 08:59 PM

How about some pictures of the 2 different blades or a comparison photo?

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: jclarksnakes

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/10/07 12:54 AM

Captain Chris,
...This is an excellent and very useful thread. Anticipating the question that some people may be thinking about I just want to add that the BCP is available on Model 14 and 15 with cut down tang. I have one of each of these two Models with CDT and BCP and they look like different length versions of the Model 12 Sportsman Bowies.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/10/07 10:29 AM

Dubie and others,
The "BCP" option is only available on the Model #14 and #15. Apparently, and I kind of remembered this, the fourteen room offers this option, but not the "main" room. This means that you are limited to those 2 models..only!! Best for now, Capt. Chris
Posted by: jclarksnakes

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/10/07 10:50 PM

Uhhohhh. I disremembered what I have. I got a Model 15 about the same time as this Model 14 arrived and thought it also had a BCP but it has standard Model 15 blade shape instead. Here is a PIC of the Model 14 CDT, with BCP, Commando shape leather handle with brass hilt, butt and spacers. This knife has just a few low cost options so it comes from the Randall shop looking pretty tricked out and unique for a very reasonbable price. The other knife is a Buxton Fighter. The Buxton has a 6 and a half inch SS blade. If you order your Buxton from Mr. Buxton hisself you also get a very tricked out unique looking RMK for not a lot of money. The nice details on the Buxton Fighter are the Bowie point and the extended skull crusher tang with a blade length that is long enough to be a deadly fighting knife but enough shorter than a Model 14 to be much more comfortably carried.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/11/07 01:35 PM

Jeff,
Thanks for the pic. I cannot gain access to my "BCP",s and it will help folks a great deal to actually "see" one of these bowie clips. I am not in total agreement with you in regards to Wayne's "Buxton" fighter being a more comfortable size for usage. While I certainly find the 6" ,or so, overall blade length a great compromise, I must tell ya' that the exposed extra tang length is very uncomfortable for fat boys, like me, to carry and use and get in and out of vehicles, horses and 4 wheelers. Blade length? No question..good choice. Tang extension? A little "pokey" for real men. I use a Model #15-5 1/2", with a stainless steel blade, single nickel silver squared top hilt and an orange (G-10) border patrol handle, in a waxed "C" sheath with no hone pocket for "chores". While it may be considered by some to be a tad on the small side, blade-length wise, I really like it's overall "usage" size. I will probably grind 3/16" to 1/4" off the back of my "Buxton" and eleviate the "pinch". Of course, I'm one of few on the planet who uses these things anyway. Again: Thanks for the pic. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/16/07 08:20 AM

Jeff,
The Model #6-9", when ordered as a large filet knife, can have the collar and butt cap. The tang is full length when ordered this way. I have one with a "crow's beak" duralumin butt cap. The shop is not crazy about installing collars right now, as it slows down production time, but an individual will have no trouble ordering it. Hope this helps, Best for now, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/29/07 11:12 PM

Quote:

It's a good time to go over something that I am asked a good deal of the time, and it relates to "both" threads. Handle material and "size" requirements.
Any questions...just post 'em here. More later. Best, Capt. Chris



Capt. Chris,
I bumped this back up to the top so we can discuss CW requirements for the #25 style grip center piece. Will you advise the sizes required for a 1/4" blade and a 3/16" blade? Also, does the blade length determine the length or the center piece or are they all the same?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/30/07 12:00 AM

Tom..and others,
Blade length has nothing to do with "most" of the centers. For instance, On a Model #25-5" or a Model #25-6", or a Model #27-5 3/4" the dimensions are the same. The "center" block requires a handle measuring: 1 1/8" X 1 1/4" X 3". The smaller Model #26-4", "Pathfinder" requires a smaller piece measuring: 1" X 1" X 2 3/4". The big block required for the Model #12-9", or #12-9", #14 grind is: 1 1/4" X 1 3/8" X 3 1/2". Even though the #12 and #25 both are forged from 1/4" stock, the remaining tang steel left to install the handles are of different dimensions, thus requiring differents block sizes. These are all the most current and up-to-date specifications from the Randall shop. Hope this helps..Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/30/07 12:17 AM

Don't know if there are changes to be made on this as it is an older date. Hope this helps.

Chief...and all others,
Here is a more recent distribution from the shop. To the best of my knowledge all this information is correct.
Thanks, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/02/07 04:01 PM

Thanks Capt. Chris and Chief.

My Randall Made Knife notebook is getting thicker.
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/02/07 08:21 PM

If Scott or the Captain or any other dealer would verify the size chart I'd feel better about it.

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/02/07 08:37 PM

Chief, how did you come by this list?
Looks OK to me except the #27 with a #25 grip is not included for the center piece size.
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/02/07 08:47 PM

Was emailed to me from 2 of our forumites. But the date is 2005. Plus be nice to know if the 1/4 inch tang covers the #27

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: tglassco

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/02/07 10:40 PM

Chief, During my visit to the Randall Shop on 7/24/07 I was given the same handle material list except it does not have any hand written dimensions next to Medium Knives like the sheet posted here. The sheet I was given is dated January 8, 2007. I am going to try to post this or I can e-mail it to you if you like.
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/02/07 11:16 PM

Email & or post would be outstanding, Thanks!! My Email is 4chief@cox.net

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: tglassco

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/02/07 11:44 PM

Randall Handle Material List dated January 8, 2007. Scott gave me this during a very recent visit to the Randall shop.
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/02/07 11:53 PM

Tom,

Good on ya & many thanks.

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/09/07 10:16 PM

David, Tom and others,
The list is correct...."BUT" (ever notice...There always seems to be a "but") it is not complete. The "slotted" handles are not mentioned, nor is the specs for the #24-4", "Guardian" or the "Small Gambler". These Randalls have entirely different specs.
TOM: The Model #27-5 3/4", "Trailblazer" takes the exact same center piece as does the Model #25-5 & 6", "Trappers". SO: A good amount of the knives ya'll are wanting to supply handle material for are covered here! Hope that serves as enough "verification" for ya'. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: LarryWW1246

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/17/07 04:39 PM

Capt. Chris--

In one of your posts you were going to talk about the different spacer combinations that might be available. If you have a chance to cover this, it will help those of us who might be not be up to date on the choices. Are spacer combinations counted as "options" when planning a knife?

Thanks for your help.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/17/07 09:33 PM

Larry...and other members,
Spacers that are "currently" available...and this is straight from my last printed letter from Valerie, at Randall, are as follows:

A) Naturally the standard configuration is red, white and blue.

B) All red spacers (an option, but not chargeable and can be ordered on any Randall that the red, white and blue could be ordered on).

C) All black spacers (Same rules apply as "B")

D) Brass spacers (with "black" is the standard configuration, unless otherwise requested)

E) Brass spacers (with "red", upon request)

F) Aluminum spacers (again: with "black" unless otherwise requested)

G) Aluminum spacers (with "red" : Same rules apply as "F")

These are the only spacer combinations available. Now..Collars? A different story. Hope this answers your questions. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/07 11:16 AM

Capt. Chris, would you please give us a list of the "alphabet soup" the shop uses, and what each one means?
Thanks,
-Steve
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/07 11:56 AM

Steven,
I'll do this a few at a time, as the forum response time keeps sending me to "time out". Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/07 12:43 PM

Thanks, Capt. Chris.
By the way, there's a way to avoid the frustration of timing out on a server when your message is long or complicated. Try composing all the information off-line, maybe using Word or another word-processing program. Then, when it's complete and organized the way you want it, just copy the text, go to the Forum, and paste the text into the Forum post area. (This works best with straightforward paragraphs, and may become a bit scrambled if you try to use tabs.)
-Steve
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/07 09:42 PM

Tell ya' what Steve. You keep posting the hard stuff and pics, etc. I'll teach ya'll about building Randalls. Sound good?
First: There are 3 ways to order stainless steel blades.

A) SS1 (stainless steel up to and including 5 1/2" in length)

B) SS2 (stainless steel blades from 5 1/2"-8"). This includes #27's (5 3/4") and #12-8"s.

C) SS3 (stainless steel blades over 8" in length) The only Randall currently qualified for this is the #12-9", #14 grind.

It's a start! Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/07 09:58 PM

Capt. Chris,

This is going to be good, like 1st grade for new Randall enthusiast!

After you wind up the blade codes how about the codes for the hilts?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/07 11:25 PM

Tom...& others,
O.K. Why not?

A) NS1 (nickel silver single hilt)

B) NS2 (nickel silver double hilt)

C) NS1(SQH)--(nickel silver single hilt, with "old style" squared top)

D) BH1 (brass single hilt)

E) BH2 (brass double hilt)

F) BH1(SQH)--brass single hilt with "old style" squared top

G) NS2(FCH)--nickel silver double hilt: forward curved

H) BH2(FCH)--brass double hilt: forward curved

I) NS2 (#14)--nickel silver double hilt (1/4")

J) BH2 (#14)--brass double hilt (1/4")

K) NS2 (#14h)--nickel silver double hilt: #14 style, with #18 holes

L) BH2 (#14h)--brass double hilt: #14 style, with #18 holes

M) LH (lugged hilt / double only) available in brass only at this time.

That'll do...Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/15/07 12:28 AM

Hey Capt!

Was wondering if you could help me option a model 5. How many options would the following be:

Model 5-5
Black micarta 4-finger grip handle (right hand)
Single brass squared hilt
Brass and Black spacers
Wrist thong
Top edge sharpened
Carbon blade
Brown waxed sheath
Posted by: Cabinet_Man

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/15/07 12:54 AM

Hi Keith,
I'm not the capt. (and don't claim to know anywhere near what he does ) but if I'm not mistaken, I think you have 4 options here. I believe the sheath is not a charged option, and the squared top guards aren't either. I did hear something though recently about these not being available. Not sure if that is just through dealers, and you maybe can still get them if ordered directly through the shop, but the Capt. will know this for sure.
~dale

1). Black micarta
2). 4-finger grip handle (right hand)
3). Brass and Black spacers
4). Wrist thong
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/15/07 09:38 AM

Keith,
(Hope I got that "i before e part right". O.K.:

7 options on the order.
6 "chargeable" options.
5 "chargeable" options on the knife itself.

A "squared top" single hilt is an option, but is done at no charge. The "top bevel" is chargeable as is the wrist thong. The brass spacers, black micarta and finger grips as well. The waxed sheath is going to run $7.00 extra...BUT does not count against the 5 option limit on the knife.

SO: Total package is doable. It is all still currently available through the shop. Hope this helps, Capt.Chris
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/15/07 11:06 AM

Thanks Capt! I was sweating having to decide which option I would have to drop if I was over the limit.

And yes, you spelled it right. My name defies the rules of English!
Posted by: rocksoldier1

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 02:29 AM

If ordering a model 12-9 #14 grind can you have BCP on it?

thanks
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 09:26 AM

Quote:

If ordering a model 12-9 #14 grind can you have BCP on it?



That would be the standard #12-9 without the #14 grind.



I learn something here every day too!
Posted by: rocksoldier1

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 10:35 AM

Yeah, but you can get a model 12-9 #14 grind in stainless.
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 11:21 AM

Yes, you can.



Steve's ebay store (sjjp) is a feast for the eyes and a great reference. I just can't afford his prices.
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 12:08 PM

Tom / Adam,

One of the things that I look for when buying (besides the price) is the number of options. Anything with more than 5 options is a 5 year wait as ya can only get it buy ordering from the shop! Makes ya look at prices in a new way! JMO.

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 04:35 PM

Very good point Chief!
Although that sixth and seventh option can get real pricey!
Posted by: red_river

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 07:09 PM

Quote:

The waxed sheath is going to run $7.00 extra...BUT does not count against the 5 option limit on the knife.




That's good to know.
Does a Black Sheath count against the options limit?
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 07:40 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The waxed sheath is going to run $7.00 extra...BUT does not count against the 5 option limit on the knife.




That's good to know.
Does a Black Sheath count against the options limit?



It does not count against the five option limit either.
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 07:46 PM

Sheath is a totally separate animal, not related to the 5 options.

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 08:49 PM

Black sheaths, or any other shop-available sheath option does not count against the 5 chargeable option limit on the Randall knife. Black is a $15.00 option. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 09:03 PM

Ordering a Randall Model #12-9", #14 grind is just that....Ordering a #14 grind. A Model #14 has a straight clip point, with the top bevel sharpened. That's it! No "BCP". If you want a stainless "BCP" Randall: Keep it to 8" or less! Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tomthbomb

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Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 09:38 PM

You can get a 12-9 that doesn't have the 14 grind! Capt. was answering Adam's post on if ya could get a clip point on a 12-9 / 14 grind!

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 09:44 PM

Quote:

You can get a 12-9 that doesn't have the 14 grind! Capt. was answering Adam's post on if ya could get a clip point on a 12-9 / 14 grind!

See Ya, Chief



Thanks Chief,
Thought we had alreay covered that!
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 09:55 PM

Tom,

If ya check the catalog "Q" on page 23 of the display of knives & 0-A of the non-catalog pictures ya can see the difference, I think the sheathes are different as well.

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 10:04 PM

Chief, you are quite right.
We have covered it three times now.
I am pretty sure Adam gets it by this time.

Do you have a #12-9 (not #14 grind) you can post a picture of. I don't. It is a formidable looking blade!

Later,
Tom
Posted by: rocksoldier1

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 10:20 PM

Thanks for the replies everyone. Tom, I know how you feel about all the knives Steve has and the prices. But you are gonna pay for getting your order through in 6 months. I talked to him about a model 3-7, stainless, antique gold micarta, and brass crows beak butt cap. Price was 595 plus whatever Randall increase there is next year.

Chief, looking at it that way, makes me feel a little more trigger happy lookin at all them knives on ebay etc.
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 10:44 PM

Tom,

Not yet but I bought a custom sheath by G.G. for one just haven't got the blade yet. Figures huh!

Adam,

I'm not the person to talk to about trigger happy! I can talk myself into anything I found that one of the best things that I did early on was write up each model that I liked & see which ones the 5 options gave me the most trouble on! The model 1 won hands down, it went 6-8 options on almost every one I wanted. So if one that I really like optioned out comes available Hair Trigger!!

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: Cabinet_Man

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/07 11:33 PM

Quote:

But you are gonna pay for getting your order through in 6 months.




Just reading through your guys' posts. Look at it this way, "It's only money".
~dale
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/17/07 12:07 AM

I know were Steve orders a lot of his Randalls. I just didn't know he had "open slots" like dealers do. That is quite impressive!
Posted by: rocksoldier1

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/30/07 04:11 AM

Quote:


These are the only spacer combinations available. Now..Collars? A different story. Hope this answers your questions. Best, Capt. Chris




Whats the story on collars? Can you send em silver for a collar?
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 09/30/07 08:56 PM

Yes ya can.

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: Topos

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 10/04/07 08:31 AM

Tom, for me, in the final analysis, my recent purchases of Special Randalls from Steve have been the most satisfying: each is perfect - no eBay guess work; super to communicate with; and seems to hand select each piece. I am willing to pay a premium for that assuredness. Sure makes filling 'empty Randall drawers' effortless. As my wonderful dad used to say "I am too poor to buy cheap things" -meaning that a 'bargain' might cost you more.

Best wishes. RKS 5384
Posted by: dougl

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 10/10/07 01:05 PM

Quote:


Anything with more than 5 options is a 5 year wait as ya can only get it buy ordering from the shop!

I'm confused, does the 5 option limit (and the nickel silver butt cap restriction) only apply to dealer orders or individual orders placed through the shop as well? I have an order due to be filled next July and wouldn't mind adding a couple things. Also, what is the procedure for amending an order, it's my understanding it should be done 6 months in advance, but how? E-mail, letter, phone, telegraph, pony express? Thanks!
Posted by: Cabinet_Man

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 10/10/07 01:24 PM

Hi Doug,
It is my understanding that ALL changes have to be done in writing through the mail. I am not sure the time frame is 6 months prior to completeion, but am thinking may be weeks instead of months. I would just call down to the shop and ask, then you will be absolutely sure.

As far as the options being limited to 5... that was for orders going through dealers in an effort to help the shop get caught up (or not fall further behind), not for an order placed directly through the shop (unless it's changed recently).
~dale
Posted by: dougl

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 10/14/07 07:06 PM

Thanks Dale. I looked at my order acknowledgement, it indicates to make change order requests in writing 3 months prior to scheduled ship date, thought I read 6 months here somewhere but must be mistaken. This will be my first Randall but not my last, I'll be needing one of your beautiful cases to display them in!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 10/15/07 06:44 PM

Doug,
3 months prior to the shipping date is 5 1/2 months, as the shop is about 10 weeks behind on schedule. That means that if you have a knife due out in Nov. add 10 weeks, therefore the 2nd week of January the knife will be out..."BUT" any changes had to be submitted before August..Do the math and, just to be on the safe side, get it in early. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Charlie

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/15/07 10:25 PM

Howdy all, I was looking at some information and saw that someone listed the "small gambler"- is this knife made in differnt blade lengths?
Charlie
RKS# 5548
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/16/07 11:00 AM

Yes, 4-inch and 5-inch. Here's a matched pair in ivory and nickel-silver:



-Steve
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/16/07 07:05 PM

Quote:

Yes, 4-inch and 5-inch. Here's a matched pair in ivory and nickel-silver:



-Steve




Nooooo not ivory!!! Sweeeet knives Dude I'm way jealous!!

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: 7033grip

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/16/07 07:10 PM

Those two knives would be banned in Boston and San Fransisco.

"Diamond Jim" Brady would have been real proud sporting those two knives.

Dubie Baxter
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/16/07 07:35 PM

Charlie,
Of the 2 blade lengths, the 5" is the only one available in either stainless "or" carbon. Nice pics, as always, Steve. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Charlie

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/16/07 09:59 PM

You guys are a wealth of information! Much appreciated. - By the way is there any way to get ivory micarta on a Randall these days? Is someone making some that you can customer supply Randall with? --- Beautiful set... I am drooling!!!
Posted by: Charlie

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/16/07 10:01 PM

If you could ever bring yourself to part with this pair... I am deffinitely buying!!!
Best,
Charlie
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/17/07 11:07 AM

Thanks, everyone, for your comments. Those are two of my favorite knives.
-Steve
Posted by: dougl

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/07 06:54 AM

I have a question about the recent 5 option limit. If I have a knife ordered with 7 options, can I change basically everything, including the model, as long as my revised order has 7 options or less? Also, is a radiused nickel silver butt cap 2 options? Thanks!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/07 08:55 AM

If an order is "changed", the maximum option limit is "5"!! Better leave it alone. Any butt cap can be rounded with no additional options used up. "Crow's Beak" cannot! Hope this helps. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: burtont

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/07 09:01 AM

How would I go about getting a Sullivan's sheath made for a custom made knife? I purchased a custom made knife a while back, but the sheath that came with it is not the same quality put out by Sullivan's. I just wondered the process that I would need to follow in order to get a higher quality sheath made for the knife. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Posted by: dougl

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/07 10:21 AM

Thanks, Capt. It's not the answer I hoped for but rounding the buttcap without spending an option helps.
Posted by: dougl

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/07 11:00 AM

I have a sheath question that may seem odd, but I'll ask anyway. Can I order an extra left-handed sheath in addition to the right-handed sheath that comes standard with a knife order? How much would an extra black, left handed sheath cost? I'm guessing it's $30 plus the cost of the sheath but I don't know what a sheath costs.
Posted by: Cabinet_Man

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/07 11:28 AM

Hi Guys, two questions regarding sheaths above. I have ordered several from Sullivan's, and from what I have experienced, this may help you...

- The wait for a cutom sheath is 18 months (give or take). However, if you can use one for your custom knife that they already have a pattern for, for example, it will fit nicely in a model 5-5" sheath, etc., then you can have that sheath made with a wait of only approx 3 months. Call and get your name added to the list, then they'll call you when it's time to send your knife to be fitted.

- A black sheath has always been $15 more than the standard tan or brown that I have ordered. Some tan ones are $35, some are $40, I don't know if the pattern or size makes them different prices but guessed that what it is... I've never asked a$s 5 or $10 either way didn't matter to me, I still wanted the sheath regardless. I do not know what a left hand option would add as I've personally never ordered one.

If you'd like to call and have your name added to the list, their # is... 813-236-8791
~dale
Posted by: dougl

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/07 12:00 PM

Thanks Dale, that partially answers my question. I guess my question should be can I order a knife (or revise an order) with 2 sheaths so that everything comes together and I don't have to send the knife out later to have the extra sheath fitted.
Posted by: Cabinet_Man

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/07 02:10 PM

Not sure on that Doug. I'd just call or email the shop and see if they will sell an extra sheath with it, then you'll know for sure (and know the exact cost as well). I would think a black sheath would be $45 + any extra charge for a left hander.
~dale
Posted by: Kelly_Higgins

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/09/07 03:35 AM

I know that you assume the risks when you provide the shop with handle material, but is there any other way to get ivory on a Randall?

Also, can I order a Gambler with stag? And is the 5" Gambler still available?

Thanks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/09/07 09:10 AM

5" Gamblers are still available. Stag is available on either size.

Left-handed sheaths are an additional $7.00 over right handed (at least in my memory...they may have gone up to $10). ONE knife sheath..per order...no "multiples". Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: dougl

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/13/07 10:17 AM

Are there any buttcap options for an APFK with a leather handle? If nickel silver is available, would the nut be nickel silver also? Thanks!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/13/07 11:51 AM

All butt caps are available on a Model #1. Nickel silver, brass, duralumin, etc. "Crow's Beak"...Rounded as well as "thin & rounded". Flanged, scalloped....NEED I GO ON? The exposed nuts are not nickel silver. Either brass or stainless (correct me if I'm wrong, DW). Hope this helps...Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. Ya' know,of course, if you order a "Crow's Beak", except with a stag handle, that you are going to get a #22-styled handle....even in leather!! Not that that's a bad thing!!!CCS
Posted by: Kelly_Higgins

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/28/07 02:51 AM

Quote:

5" Gamblers are still available. Stag is available on either size.
Best, Capt. Chris




Due to a developing fetish for Gamblers, I must ask what options are available for them. Any hilt options? Caps? Could I get a hole?

I'd like a 4" Gambler in Stag with NS hilt and coolie cap and thong hole. Possible?

Thanks, Capt.
Posted by: burtont

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/31/07 11:53 AM

Is green canvas micarta a shop option or do I need to supply this type of micarta? I was looking in the catalog today and noticed that green micarta was an option, but nothing was mentioned about the canvas micarta. Any advice would be much appreciated.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/07/08 05:58 PM

Green "Canvas" micarta is available through the Randall shop.....and so is Green "Linen"....sorta??? Let me explain:
The "standard", i.e. "cut-down tang" handles knives are available in green canvas. The "slotted" models, i.e. "#14, #15, #16, #16 "spl. fighter" and the "Fireman" can all be had with the green linen. Handle options and sizes still apply. "SO"...If ya' want a Model #16-7", with sawteeth, nickel silver double hilt and a "single finger" grip handle, in green "linen" micarta...."NO PROBLEM"...Hope this helps..Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: armedcitizen

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/09/08 03:44 PM

Wow, tons of good info here. A question I didn't see answered way back in Alphacodes reply: what do these stand for:

DB(thin and round)
MAB

Thanks.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/09/08 10:20 PM

D uraluminum B utt(thin butt w/ rounded edges),

M odel A B lack sheath



---DW---
Posted by: armedcitizen

Customer supplied handle material--when to send - 01/12/08 09:00 AM

Should I send my handle material with the order or will the shop contact me when production begins?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Customer supplied handle material--when to send - 01/12/08 09:54 PM

Send the handle material, per Randall's instructions. Currently the shop does "not" want it right away. This date changes every now and then, but a rule of thumb would be about 4 to 5 months before the "scheduled" shipping date. Ask when placing your order. Valerie will set ya' straight...(she does me all of the time)...Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: rikrak

Lost In Space As To Spacers Arrangements - 01/16/08 05:27 AM

There are NO dumb questions, we shall see. Small time Randall guy, and I like the look of a black micarte handle with black/silver spacers. However, Randall uses a 5 up front 3 in back pattern for spacers that puts black to black next to the handle. I'm not any too bright, so I'm looking at one of my knives and think, if the pattern was 4/4 instead of 5/3 the knife would still have the same number of "spacers" but the arrangement would place a silver (or brass) spacer against the black micarta handle and not black to black. Sure I could choose to do red/silver and avoid this issue. I once asked a dealer if this 4/4 was an option and was told no. Now I understand that perhaps it's just a Randall policy now, although a 5/3 pattern of spacers has not been since day one. Clearly Randall has a right to limit choices but is there any real reason why a 4/4 pattern could not be done? I like Randall knives, although not a big time guy in the Randall world my seventh Randall Knife is due to be delivered this week so I do support the Randall Company with my dollars and one thing that draws me to a Randall knife is that it is a custom "hand made" knife. Should I want, I can choose a "fighter" and set it up to my preferance to make me happy and then Randall builds "my" knife. I just wonder why a 4/4 pattern is just not done (even if I ask real nice)?
Posted by: 7033grip

Re: Lost In Space As To Spacers Arrangements - 01/16/08 06:15 AM

Rikrak, why don't you go all the way? See if Silverknife would do you a two silver, 2 black spacer combo, with a silver buttcap, and a silver hilt.

Be the first kid on the block with one. I'd love to see it.

"Silver me timbers"...It would be beautiful with black Micarta or Ebony.

I think I may change my order now.

Dubie Baxter
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Lost In Space As To Spacers Arrangements - 01/16/08 10:38 AM

5 spacers at the hilt...3 at the butt cap. NO exceptions...even if ya' ask real nice. Dubie: Don't encourage Doug's silver, unless the "same pattern" is understood. A "collar" changes things, but fiber spacers are still at "both" ends. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Raindog

Re: Lost In Space As To Spacers Arrangements - 01/16/08 01:31 PM

My question: A model 25 is available with a n/s hilt and a dura butt (brass available upon request.). The RMK site states "Name etching, stainless blade, and wrist thong only options available." So, a n/s butt is not available to match the hilt?
Posted by: 7033grip

Re: Lost In Space As To Spacers Arrangements - 01/16/08 06:34 PM

Thanks Captain, Rules are rules, and I respect that.

Dubie
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Lost In Space As To Spacers Arrangements - 01/17/08 09:08 AM

Gary,
As far as the "only" options available on a certain model...we could go on and on with "exceptions" to the rule. Nickel silver butt caps being just one. Antique gold, black, green, maroon, rosewood, walnut, ironwood and maple are all available as "centers" for a Model #25, #26, and #27. The shop does not like installing nickel silver butt caps, as it slows them down. It is available, however.
Dubie: No need to apologize. Believe you me, over the years I have posted stuff that is not doable. It just adds to the confusion, and we, as Randall knife freaks, are confused enough on our own!! Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: armedcitizen

Question about Model 14 handle/hilt options - 01/26/08 11:16 PM

I have a 14 on order with the shop that I requested a border patrol handle with. I was re-reading the catalog and saw that a BPH on a 14 gets a #1 style hilt. Can I get the standard 14 hilt with the BPH or do I need to change my handle choice to get the 14 hilt?
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Question about Model 14 handle/hilt options - 01/27/08 02:19 PM

I believe you can, Jerry. For example, here's a border patrol 14 with forward curve that a member (Tom Glasscock) posted on this forum in the thread titled "Model of the week - Model 14".
-Steve

Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: Question about Model 14 handle/hilt options - 02/04/08 06:01 PM

Hey Cap,

Can you tell me if the following is do-able>

Model 15, full-tang
Carbon Blade
ST/NST grind
Thumb notches
Border Patrol shape handle, black micarta
Wrist Thong
Single nickle silver hilt
Brown, high ride sheath.

If I decided to go with a #1 style double hilt instead of the single-hilt, would that be a chargeable option?

Thanks,

Keith
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Question about Model 14 handle/hilt options - 02/07/08 08:43 AM

Keith,
No "high-ride" sheaths are available for this model, but all of the rest is a "doable" build. Nickel silver single hilt is chargeable. If you go with a double hilt, instead of a single, it is only chargeable if you want nickel silver. Brass double hilts are standard. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Question about Model 14 handle/hilt options - 02/07/08 08:46 AM

Jerry,
Yes, as is pictured in the pics posted after yours, double hilts can be had: standard, forward curved or #1 style with a border patrol handle. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: Question about Model 14 handle/hilt options - 02/07/08 10:33 AM

Thanks Cap!

Just curious, are "high-ride" sheaths available from the shop for other models?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Question about Model 14 handle/hilt options - 02/07/08 11:35 AM

Keith,
The only "hi-ride" sheath available is standard with the "Fireman Special". Anything else will have to be special-ordered through Sullivan's Leather. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: sss

Re: Question about Model 14 handle/hilt options - 02/17/08 02:04 PM

For what models is the #6 grind available??

Is it available for a 5-5 ?

Thank you.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Question about Model 14 handle/hilt options - 02/17/08 08:26 PM

Models #4-6" (carbon steel only) / #6-4 1/2" and 9" blades (stainless only) / #7-4 1/2" and 5" in carbon and stainless.
A few years back the Model #3 was available for a short time, but no more. The "GTR" and "Denmark" specials have this grind (GTR in stainless only and Denmark in either blade stock. The Model #22 is real close (stainless only)...and, I guess a Model #26-4" has a similar grind also (stainless or carbon). Model #11's / #20's and #21's (available both ways). I'm sure I am forgetting something, but that's all that come to mind...At least available currently. Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. Don't forget the Model #10's!! ...and #II-3 1/4"!! CCS
Posted by: armedcitizen

On which models is the style 25 handle available? - 02/21/08 08:14 PM

Could someone list the models on which the 25 style handle is available?

Thanks.
Posted by: tunefink

Re: On which models is the style 25 handle available? - 02/21/08 08:29 PM

#25, #26, #27, and a #12-9
Posted by: armedcitizen

Re: On which models is the style 25 handle available? - 02/21/08 09:16 PM

Thanks tunfinK. Is the cost the same for all or is the 12-9 more than the 26 and 27?
Posted by: Raindog

Re: On which models is the style 25 handle availab - 02/21/08 10:24 PM

Along with the #12-9, you can get the #25 handle on the #12-9/14.
Posted by: tarheel

Re: Sheath for a Model 12-9 with a 14 grind - 05/10/08 07:15 PM

Is it possible to get a Model C sheath for this knife?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Sheath for a Model 12-9 with a 14 grind - 05/10/08 08:10 PM

Yes, indeed. When ordering a Model #12-9", #14 grind, simply order the code; M"C" sheath and you will get a tan Model "C" sheath. There is a few extra bucks involved, but a more multi-functional sheath comes your way.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Sheath for a Model 12-9 with a 14 grind - 05/11/08 02:04 PM

Folks,
Another brain fart by the good "Captain". Model #12-9", with the #14 grind come "standard" with the "C" sheath, so it is not necessary to specify it. Sorry..Dumb looks are still free...Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tarheel

Re: Sheath for a Model 12-9 with a 14 grind - 05/14/08 06:34 PM

You not only told me something I didn't know, but also that I would save some money. That's good news all around. Thanks a bunch.
Posted by: JimBetts

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/22/08 12:49 PM

Capt, Regarding my question on spacers, Guido just posted the answer. GTR model of the week.
My two little toys. The question was about the spacers at the top of the handle. No top no spacers.
Thanks, Jim
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/22/08 06:22 PM

Jim,
Thanks for letting me know who you are. I received a very "unclear" email sometime today. I thought it was an eBay "scam", so I'm afraid I sent you a discouraging word....or two. Please accept my apologies..."BUT"...The email still makes no sense, even after reading your post here/ Sorry. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tglassco

Butt Cap Options! - 05/22/08 07:32 PM

Capt. Chris,

Although I cannot find the thread, you recently posted some information regarding Butt Cap Options, Rounded and so on.

My question Is This: Considering an order where a brass butt cap is ordered and counts towards the 5 options, does specifying a specific shape for the butt cap such as rounded count as an additional option.?


Thanks For Your Time
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Butt Cap Options! - 05/22/08 08:15 PM

A brass butt cap or a duralumin butt cap can be ordered rounded and it is not considered a "chargeable" option. The butt cap itself is, in many cases, but not the rounding.
That does not mean you can change a butt cap to "domed" or "flanged" or "scalloped" in the same manner. I hope this helps. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tglassco

Re: Butt Cap Options! - 05/22/08 08:31 PM

I understand clearly Capt. Chris

I really appreciate your reply. You are a great resource for this forum.

Again, Thanks For Your Time
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Butt Cap Options! - 05/22/08 08:47 PM

No problem...I just wish I hadn't cussed out Jim.....Ya'll do not realize just how much "odd" eBay stuff I get! Glad to try and answer these ordering questions though. If it saves phone calls to the Randall shop..I'm doin' my job. Best for now, Capt. Chris
Posted by: JimBetts

Re: Butt Cap Options! - 05/26/08 06:52 PM

Capt, I am sitting here smileing. I have not read your email but I understand. I wasn't very clear. I saw three Randall"s on ebay. Two had Dura al tops rounded. One a stag was with out a top. All three had al and black spacers. The two with tops had spacers at the top also and of course the one without the top had none at the top. I do not order my knives with tops often and the question was how come spacers at the top. Then Guido posted on the GTR model of the week thread and it showed "my two little boys" side by side. My question was answered. Sorry I did not make my self clear.
Thanks, Jim
Ps Happy Memorial Day!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Butt Cap Options! - 05/26/08 07:47 PM

Jim,
Here's the part you did "not" know. I had a customer looking for the Model #21 you referenced in your email. I had bid on it for that customer. Several other times in the past, as I am sure has happened to other folks,I got all this crap emailed to me wanting me to click a link or whatever and screw myself with regard to my personal info. I thought that was the case here as well....HENCE: The vulgar, graphic and vivid reply. It has always worked in the past.
By the way, Jim...They are called "butt caps"..not "tops". Your description made no sense to me...sounded like you were talking about the "wrong end"???? Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: LarryWW1246

Most recent RMK handle block specifications - 06/03/08 11:21 AM

Capt. Chris--

Enjoyed talked with you at the Blade Show.

You asked me to remind you to post the most recent handle block spec's on the forum. It will help many of us who have that "favorite" piece of wood or ivory to send in with orders.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Most recent RMK handle block specifications - 06/03/08 12:38 PM

Larry...and others,
Good seeing you at "Blade" also. Here's the deal. "REMEMBER"...These are "minimum" requirements, folks. A little larger cannot hurt, "BUT" (there's that word again) the "slotted" handle material specs and the Model #10 specs have to be "exact". All cut down tang models will be alright to send a little "proud". Here goes:

From the smallest to the largest: #25 (3-piece handles)

A) A "center" for a Model #26-4", "Pathfinder". This means a #25 (Trapper) style handle with the leather on each end, requires a piece of handle material that needs to be a "minimum" of: 1" X 1" X 2 3/4".

B) A Model #25-5" or a 6", "Trapper" with the same type of 3 piece handle.."AND"..a Model #27-5 3/4", "Trailblazer" with the 3-piece handle requirements a "minimum" handle measuring: 1 1/8" X 1 1/4" X 3".

C) A Model #12-9" or a Model #12-9", with a #14 grind ordered with the same type of #25 handle, i.e. "3-piece" requires a "minimum" measurement of: 1 1/4" X 1 3/8" X 3 1/2".
This covers "all" 3-piece handles available from the Randall shop. Others to come uo a bit later on. Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Ausblade

Re: Randall Ordering Question - 06/12/08 01:19 AM

Capt Chris

This is a excellent thread and has helped me a great deal in understanding what we can do within the five option limit.

I though I had it down pat until I read in another thread that Dirty Water says that if on a 12-9 you change from the standard brass lugged hilt to a brass forward curved hilt there is no charge.

I understand that if I order a Micarta handle on one of the leather handled models, that it is a chargeable option. If I then went further and specified a border patrol shape that would be another chargeable option, then a butt cap would make 3 and so on.

What if I ordered these same options on a knife that has a stag handle as standard?
So surely changing from stag to the cheaper option of micarta would not be a chargeable option.

Therefore if I ordered a Model #8 and requested the only options to be black micarta border patrol handle, would this be one chargeable option or two?
Posted by: armedcitizen

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/08 10:52 PM

I've seen a few Delrin handles Randalls on Ebay lately. Through my job I have access to a lot of Delrin. Does the shop accept delrin as customer supplied handle material?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall Ordering Question - 06/15/08 09:58 AM

In that scenario you would have 2 options, but only one "chargeable" option. A Model #5-4", Model #8-4", Model #21-3 1/4" or a Model #26-4" all come with stag and, when or if ordered with micarta handles, they are supplied at no additional charge! I am sure there are more, but that "quartet" is used as an example. An "Old Style" #8 is the same story. #11-3 1/4"..O.K.: You get the idea. Gotta go for now. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/15/08 10:04 AM

Jerry,
I believe tha shop still accepts it, but I will check. On occasion, Randall will "broad-brush" a particular type of material and discontinue it's use. Sometimes this is done because of problems with the material itself. Other times it is done because of fear, sometimes already manifested prior to the "ban", of fakes or Randall "stories" that can get attached to or "possibly" attached to one of these knives. Delrin had a fairly short run. It will be interesting to see the answer. I'll check it out. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/08 08:45 AM

Jerry,
I checked with the Randall shop and delrin is indeed "out of the loop". It peels so badly that the shop quit using it. I have had a few Randalls with this material and they left me cold, so I guess it isn't a huge loss to be turned down on this request. "PLUS"...Anything that slows the guys down is bad. Hope this helps. Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. This is a similar scenario, although for a different reason, that brought about the demise of the white micarta the Randall shop was using after the "old yeller" was used up. It would check and crack and the shop wants nothing to do with it anymore!...CCS
Posted by: armedcitizen

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/08 12:07 PM

Thanks, Capt.
Posted by: samg

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/08 12:47 PM

Can someone explain the "Coolie" cap? Is it the standard Duralumin cap? Where does the term come from.
thanks
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/08 01:36 PM

It is "not" the duralumin butt cap, but can be made from aluminum ...or brass. S.E. Asia, along with many other Asian tours of duty found the term, quite frequently reffering to the covers the locals would wear...and "that" is about as polite as I can word it. One look in the catalog will quickly show you the difference is shape, verses a standard butt cap. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tglassco

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/08 02:22 PM

Brass Coolie Cap On A Model #1 8" SS Blade

The end of the Tang is slightly visible at the end of the handle.

Posted by: samg

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/08 02:23 PM

Ahh, the scalloped cap, I see now.
Thanks Capt Chris, and thanks for the invaluable service you provide for this forum, on many fronts.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/08 06:25 PM

Not "scalloped". Scalloped is scalloped. "Coolies" are smooth. Flanged butt caps come both smooth "and" scalloped..just to add to the confusion.. Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. Note that in the catalog it states that "smooth" is available in brass "or" duralumin....CCS
Posted by: samg

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/08 06:56 PM

Thanks Capt Chris. I understand, and with no confusion There is alot to this upgrade stuff, and this thread is incredibly valuable.
thanks again.
Posted by: rodbrown

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/29/08 04:53 PM

Capt. or anyone, could you answer this for me. I have searched the Forums for the answer, but can't find it. The question: Can you have a border patrol handle on a Model 5-4? The RMK catlogue states one can have a BPH on a Model 5, but the 4" is a small knife and I did not know if can accept a BPH. Thank you.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/29/08 06:44 PM

Rod,
Yes: A "Border Patrol" or a "SFG" (Single Finger Grip) are available on a #5-4", but FG's (Finger Grips) are "not". Hope this helps. Best. Capt. Chris
Posted by: tomthbomb

n/s collar on #22 grip? - 06/29/08 07:22 PM

Capt. Chris, as long as you are in the question answering mood how about this?

Less than two years ago I ordered two Randalls from an authorized dealer. He does not participate on our forum but is a great guy none the less!

About six months ago I got an email advising the nickel silver collar I ordered on a #3-7 with a #22 grip was not allowed. I replied "no problemo, put aluminum and black spacers instead". Well, I also had a #4-7 with the same options on another knife due one month later so I assumed the collar would go and the spacers would be substituted.

Here is what I received about six weeks apart. The antique ivory colored micarta is exactly the same color but one photo was taken outside, the other taken six weeks later inside due to rain.




My question is: are collars allowed with a #22 grip or not? Either way I am not going to contact the selling dealer. Did this one just kinda slip through?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: n/s collar on #22 grip? - 06/29/08 08:55 PM

To the best of my knowledge the collar "is" doable, providing you do not go over the 5 option limit, which you did not..in either photo shown here. I just don't know why you were told this. The fact that the #4 came through with the collar should prove it is still allowed. Sounds like a glitch somewhere. I certainly will not defend this "other" dealer, but sometimes we get letters from the Randall shop stating one thing or the other. I have reviewed all of my recent ones and I find no "authorized" change in policy, with regards to the collar.
I have told folks on this forum that I will not take special orders for more than 2 collars or nickel silver butt caps in any particular month. This is a business decision on my part and not the decision of the Randall shop. I received correspondence from the shop 3 years ago asking me (us the dealers) to try and limit these items as they slow down production time. I want to be part of the solution..not the problem. Perhaps this is what your dealer meant and the Model #4 came out on a month where they had more latitude. Best I can do...Capt. Chris
Posted by: rodbrown

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/30/08 03:42 AM

Capt. Chris
Thank you for your answer, it is greatly appreciated.

Regards
Rod
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: n/s collar on #22 grip? - 06/30/08 06:26 PM

Thanks Capt. Chris.

I guess it is what I call an isolated incident.

So much for a matched pair.
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: n/s collar on #22 grip? - 07/01/08 10:06 PM

After thinking about this and looking at my photos I came to the conclusion that I would really like to see a Randall Craftsman shape that crow's beak butt cap!
Posted by: Bigkc82

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/04/08 11:01 AM

Was wondering how many options do I have?
#5-6"
Carbon Blade
Sawteeth
NS1(SQH)
Thumb Notches
Maroon Micarta
Thong Hole
Compass
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/04/08 02:51 PM

You have "6" options, but only "5" chargeable options, so you are AOK. A nickel silver single hilt can be ordered with the old style "squared top" at no additional charge, except for the nickel silver single hilt. The same with a brass hilt. If a Randall knife comes with a brass single hilt the squared top can be ordered and "no" options are used up! Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Bigkc82

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/05/08 08:27 AM

Capt.
Thanks for the help, I wasn't sure about the hilt. Thanks for clearing that up.
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/26/08 10:59 AM

Captain,

As you have explained we get a model #22 handle shape for free with a crows beak butt cap, do we get this handle shape if a domed butt cap is ordered? Borrowed photo of Bill's RMK


See Ya, Chief
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/26/08 12:08 PM

Chief,
"NO"
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/26/08 12:29 PM

Hi Capt.,

When you get a chance, could you cover buttcaps. I have a model 5 on order with a Border Patrol handle, duralumin buttcap. I know the buttcap gets shaped some, does that have a particular name/designation? Does it affect the shape of the B.P. handle vs. one without a buttcap? Maybe cover radiused. When does a buttcap get a nut or not? Sorry to hit you with so many questions at once. Any pics of different buttcaps from members would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks everyone,
Josh
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/26/08 01:31 PM

Josh,
Go to the "Stanaback Special", dealer knife of the week thread. Border patrol with butt caps, rounded and regular are pictured there.
The "only" butt cap that gets an "exposed" nut is any "all-leather" handle. "All" others will have no nut or an internal one.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Raindog

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/28/08 09:04 PM

Captain, I know that this has been answered before but I can not find it through searching. On which models is the #6 grind available?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/28/08 09:14 PM

Obviously the Model #6-9", Carving Knife and the #6-4 1/2", Steak Knife, but a 5" Model #7 can also be ordered this way. A Model #4-6", but only in carbon steel. The "Denmark", "GTR" and "#22 already have this grind. Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Raindog

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/30/08 11:53 PM

Thanks for answering my last question. Now one more that, hopefully, will be an easy one. What is the 2008 price on a Triathlete and the Tailor's knife?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/31/08 07:59 AM

Gary: That's "2" questions !!
The current catalog price is as follows:

A) Triathelete $225.00
B) Tailor's w/blade cover $100.00

Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Ba19Ma88

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/31/08 11:24 AM

Hello, silly question here.

Is it possible to get the Model 11 3 1/4" or any of the (skinners 11-4", 19-4 1/2, 23-4 1/2) with a 27 handle, or is that handle still only on the 27. If I could get it on the 11-3 1/4 how many options would that be on the model 11 3 1/4?

I Thank you for your time
Bruce
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/31/08 12:06 PM

If you are speaking of the "13 spacers" and 2-tone metal hardware, it is "strictly" available on the #27..No exceptions! Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: armedcitizen

Charged option? - 10/14/08 09:11 AM

#6 grind on a #4-7.

Charged option? If so, how much?

Thanks Capt.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Charged option? - 10/14/08 09:17 AM

The #6 grind is not available on the 7" Model #4. Sorry: If it were available it would definately be a chargeable option and it would count towards your 5. The Randall shop will not forge just one or two blades. They usually forge 50 or more at a time.
At this particular time, being as they are 5 yrs. behind...and 13 weeks behind on shipping schedule, this knife and option will not be offered. I hope I made that "clear" and not "murky".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Warren_Polidori

Re: Charged option? - 10/14/08 09:39 AM

CCS,

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that part of the decision behind the Glades Hunter 4-6 #6 Grind?

Best,
Warren
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Charged option? - 10/14/08 10:47 AM

Warren,
I'm not sure what you mean by your question. The "Glades Hunter" was a 6 inch and had only been forged, in the past, in O1 Swedish tool steel. Gary Randall graciously agreed to forge these particular blades for this project in stainless.
Does "that" answer your question? Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Warren_Polidori

Re: Charged option? - 10/14/08 10:54 AM

Yes, thanks.

Best,
Warren
Posted by: Ausblade

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/08 06:43 PM

Capt Chris could you please tell us what options are available with the Model 6. I've seen pictures of what looks like a #6 carving knife without the fork and steel, with a single hilt and a sheath. I think you recently posted a picture of a heavily optioned #6 in the hunting season thread.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/08 07:48 PM

Model #6-9" Carving knife comes with a reduced nickel silver hilt. It is usually accompanied with the fork, steel and 3-piece felt case. There are several options for this set. Besides stag, green, maroon or black micarta, several woods, your ivory,etc. You can also order metal spacers. O.K. You get the idea.
"MY" Model #6-9", Large Filet Knife, starts out with the same stainless steel 9" blade, but incorporate a nickel silver single hilt and a tan sheath. It is a bit more pricey, but each piece is invoiced individually, i.e....If you want a fork..an extra $70. Same for the steel. 3-piece felt case? $40. I'll try and find a photo and post it up here. I still think mine is the way to go. You can always use it for a carver, but can carry it with you for "outdoor" purposes!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/08 07:52 PM

Here's a "really tricked-out" one. Buckeye burl (#22 style), etc. and a black sheath.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/08 07:56 PM

Here's a look at the handle a little more "up close".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/08 07:59 PM

And....just because we've come this far....the "back".
Best, Capt. Chris

P.S. If you need help putting this order together, email me...CCS
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/08 08:25 PM

Ugly Knife......How much ya want for it Nice really nice!!!!

See Ya, Chief
Posted by: Ausblade

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/08 10:20 PM

Thanks for your reply Capt Chris.
They are both very nice knives

So how many chargeable options on your stag handled large fillet knife?

I'm guessing the stainless blade is standard.
The nickel silver hilt is standard but in reduced form.
So is there a charge for the single hilt?
The metal spacer definitely count, as a chargeable option
Stag is standard
Finger grips are chargeable.
The butt cap is and so is the thong hole.
The sheath is but it is not part of the knife.

So I make it 4 chargeable options on the knife or 5 if you count the hilt plus another for the sheath.

How did I go?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/08 11:45 PM

1) Nickel silver single hilt
2) Aluminum and red spacers
3) Finger grips (no longer available on this model)
4) Duralimin butt cap
5) Wrist thong
6) Thumb notches
7) ET1 (Captain Chris Stanaback
8) Model "A" sheath (NHS)
This knife cannot be had nowadays.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/08 11:50 PM

Here's the back. Only the big knife has thumb notches (I don't know why).
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Ausblade

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/23/08 12:13 AM

I was not aware of the thumb notches and the name etching, but otherwise I got it right.

So the closest I can come to ordering a knife like that, given that I don't want name etching, would be

1) Nickel silver single hilt
2) Aluminum and red (or black)spacers
3) Duralimin butt cap
4) Wrist thong
5) Thumb notches
6) Model "A" sheath (NHS)

Can I have squared off hilt and rounded but cap on this model?

Capt Chris thanks once again for answering all these questions, though they may be hypothetical they do a great deal to help me understand the Randall option system.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/23/08 08:28 AM

You're welcome...and it looks like you understand this one just fine! You got it right!
Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. This past month I ordered a "Large Filet Knife", set up the way you wanted it, including the sheath, steel, fork and felt case. The catalog price was $585.00. My customer turned it down, thinking that it was just going to be a "little over the carving set price". Wrong answer! It sold to the first person I called. Let me know if you have any other questions....CCS
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/04/08 01:30 PM

Capt,

Can you tell me if this is doable. . .

Model 5-5
Carbon blade with sharpened top edge
Brass hilt with squared top
Brass-black spacers
Black micarta handle in border patrol shape
Thumb notches
Wrist Thong
Brown model A waxed-leather sheath

Thanks a bunch!

Also, is the sharpened top edge the same as the sawtooth/no sawtooth option?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/04/08 08:00 PM

Keith,
Just got back at my desk after a marathon Bama trip. I was in Birmingham yesterday afternoon...drove to Pensacola, down to Ocala. Today I drove 300 miles (round trip) to vote.
Your knife is doable. Thumb notches, squared top hilt are both "NON" chargeable options. The "TB" is quite different from the STN. "TB" keeps the same blade shape as the standard Model #5. Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: TonyLaPetri

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/05/08 02:35 PM

Captain,
I have the Randall Handle Material spec sheet.
Could / should these specs be used as a guide for stag or other horn material?
I realize the spec sheet is for rectangular blocks and obviously stag or other
horn material is not rectangular. Do specs exist for stag??
Thanks,
Tony
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/05/08 04:15 PM

Measurements for a Model #1-7", in stag, musk ox or anything else sent to the shop in a "round" (or close to round) state is 4 3/4" long and 1 1/4" in diameter. In other words, the longest measurement of a rectangular block. I hope that makes sense.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: TonyLaPetri

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/05/08 04:47 PM

Makes total sense!
Thanks Captain!!
Tony
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/06/08 08:13 PM

Capt, What are,if any, the charges for these spacers.
Red and White,Red and Brass,Black and Alum.,and the Black and Silver. Also will the shop do thick red white and blue spacers? Thanks 29R/Jerry
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/06/08 10:11 PM

Red and white is not available. Red,white and blue is available at no additional charge. All black is also doable and no charge. Brass and red or brass and black..Aluminum and red or aluminum and black...all 4 are available and a charge of $10 is applied...and it is considered one of your 5 options.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: giacomo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/10/08 05:25 AM

Captain,
my question is:
wich measurements for a customer provided block for the handle of a 5" blade Gambler in a Single Finger Grip o Commando shape?
Thanks for the excellent e very interesting forum.
Giacomo. RKS n.5585
Posted by: tunefink

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/10/08 08:01 AM

Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/11/08 09:08 AM

1 1/4" X 1 3/8" X 5", because of the single finger grip. "ANY" Randall handle dimension has to be increased to the next size "larger" when ordering any special handle shaping, "except" the standard shape or finger grips.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Ruger44special

question on model 2 - 12/23/08 10:52 AM

Is the aluminum buttcap a chargeable option when you are getting a micarta handle on a 2-8?
Posted by: tglassco

Re: question on model 2 - 12/23/08 12:08 PM

On A Model #2, YES !

Why? The Micarta material can be finished out with a plain end. i.e. No butt cap or plate. Whereas a leather handle requires a butt cap to compress and hold the leather in place. Therefore the butt cap in your example IS a chargeable option.

I've been through this before.
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: question on model 2 - 01/03/09 02:52 PM

Captain,

If a Model 2 is ordered with a Micarta handle, would the shape remain commando, or would commando become an option? I plan on ordering a #2, fwd curved brass hilt, brass collar, smooth brass coolie, wrist thong, black micarta on Monday. But don't want to lose the commando shape.

Thanks in advance,
Josh
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question on model 2 - 01/04/09 02:30 AM

Josh:
All Model #2's come with a commando-shaped handle..."Standard", regardless of the material...The only exception being stag.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tomthbomb

Randall "ordering" question - 01/16/09 05:55 PM

When a service member orders one of the few Randall Made Knives available on short notice while deployed in a war zone about what is the turn around time after the order has been received?

I am asking this for one such warrior currently serving in Iraq..
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 01/16/09 06:03 PM

Tom, in the interest of getting you a quick (albeit possibly wrong) answer, the last I heard it was about six weeks. Although I'm sure there are people here who are much more "in the know" than I am.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 01/18/09 07:47 PM

6-8 weeks...but if he needs a standard #14-7 1/2", #18-7 1/2" or a #1-7" Tom: Call me! Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 01/18/09 08:02 PM

Quote:

When a service member orders one of the few Randall Made Knives available on short notice while deployed in a war zone about what is the turn around time after the order has been received?

I am asking this for one such warrior currently serving in Iraq..




Last time I checked it was 12 weeks. There are only 4 models to choose from.
Posted by: giacomo

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 01/26/09 01:30 PM

Captain,
is it possible to order a 4" Gambler or a Cattleman with a butt cap, or the tangs are too short to fit that option?
Thank you in advance.
Giacomo RKS #5585
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 02/01/09 05:19 PM

Yes: Butt caps are available. Here's a couple of my personal Small Gamblers.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 02/01/09 05:24 PM

The elephant ivory small gambler has a duralumin butt cap. The shape of this butt cap is quite unique.
Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. You can see the tang from this photo, even though it is not a great pic...CCS
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 02/01/09 05:27 PM

For comparison...The "Trademark" side of both small gamblers. One is elephant ivory with shop-supplied nickel silver, aluminum and black spacers and a duralumin butt cap. The "other" one is fossil walrus with fine silver fittings.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 02/01/09 05:31 PM

Finally: The "back side" shows the fossil walrus' firestarter hole (i.e. Indian artifact).
Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. The whole "trick" to putting these, or any other Randall models, together properly is fit and finish. Had I not had the proper size material for these small gamblers, they would not have finished this well...CCS
Posted by: BrianE

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 03/27/09 10:44 AM

Captain,

Was the ivory cut to different dimensions than the standard size ones for a small Gambler's handle? If so, what were the dimensions?


Brian E
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 03/27/09 11:10 AM

Dimensions for a "Small Gambler" or a "Guardian" (#24) are different and as follows:

4 1/2" Length
3/4" Thick
1 5/16" Wide

I keep this size in stock (from Gene Beal). It gives you a full-sized ivory handle for a lot less money!!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 03/27/09 11:13 AM

The "angles" of these photos may distort the actual sizes (dimensions), but what is posted...Is correct!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 03/27/09 11:15 AM

This angle shows the difference in the "width" and the "thickness". Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: BrianE

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 03/27/09 12:32 PM

I am going to have to find my last piece of white micarta from the late Tom Clinton and see if those are the dimensions of what I have. I suspect I have a piece sized for a large Gambler.


Thanks,

Brian E
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/16/09 01:34 PM

Attention everybody,
I have just learned (this past week) of a possible ordering problem that you may not be aware of. This regards handle material known as "G-10" or "G-3". The Randall shop has restrictions, with regards to exactly what options are allowable on this material.
Because this material is so hard and so difficult to work with, it has become necessary for the shop to eliminate some options on this material "only".These options are still available on micarta handle material. The G-10 (often sent to the shop in "Orange", but other colors are available) destroys belts and drill bits at an alarming rate.
Because of the above-mentioned reasons, along with the fact that G-10 is more labor intensive, the Randall shop will not install compasses or wrist thongs in this material. You can order a G-10 handle with a butt cap. The shop "will" install a butt cap. You can then request a wrist thong be added to your order and the shop will be able to drill the butt cap for a wrist thong.
Please keep in mind that a butt cap and a wrist thong are both "chargeable" options on micarta or G-10 handles and therefore are counted as "two" options on this knife. That would leave you with a maximum of 3 additional options, if you elect to order these "2".
I hope this is clear to everyone. If not, just post your questions here, in this thread, and I will try and answer them.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/16/09 08:06 PM

Capt, This is what I want to build, but I need some help. I want a Model 23 with Stainless Blade, Green Micarta Handle, Border Patrol style, Brass End Cap rounded off, and a Wrist Lanyard. I know this is five options. What spacer options are non- chargable? I would like Brass and Red but I think I go over with the spacers. Please help.29R
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/16/09 08:13 PM

All red spacers is a non chargeable option.It would be KILLER BAD with the green micarta!
Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/16/09 08:13 PM

Jerry,

I am almost positive (99.95%) Brass & Red Spacers is a chargeable option.
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/16/09 08:16 PM

Yeah - It isn't much ($10), but brass & red IS chargeable. Not sure about all red; they used to do that, but not sure if they still do. All black is definitely still an option, and is not chargeable.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/16/09 08:44 PM

Jerry,
Red, white & blue...all black or all red are the only choices you have. Brass & Red or Brass & Black are chargeable options ($15.00 at present). How about this : Order a Model #23-4 1/2"
A) Thumb Notches (standard)
B) Stainless (Option #1)
C) Brass single hilt (standard)
D) Brass spacers (Option #2)
E) Micarta handle (Option #3)
F) Brass "Crow's beak butt cap( Option #4)
G) Wrist Thong (Option #5)

You will get the Model #22 styled handle (very similar to the "border patrol") automatically, when you order a "Crow's Beak"....and you still haven't gone over your limit! Something like this handle configuration.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/16/09 08:51 PM

Capt,Now that's a possibility. Can the shop radius the crows beak a little or is what I see is what I get? Thanks 29R
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/16/09 08:56 PM

You could "request" a rounded butt cap. Althought it is unusual on a crow's beak, it may be possible. The shop would have the option of doing that...or not.
Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. It's sort of like requesting "smooth" or "large" stag. Sometimes it works...sometimes it doesn't...CCS
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/16/09 08:59 PM

Thanks for the advice. 29R
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 12:50 PM

I have a block of Westinghouse Yellow Linen Micarta and looking into some silver furniture for a Model 5 that I would like to have built. I currently have an order with the factory, but it's shipping date isn't until 2013 (yikes!).

Is it possible to order this (with the customer supplied material) through an authorized Randall dealer and shorten the delivery time? If so, any dealers anyone might recommend....or if any dealers are interested, please let me know!

One other question, would the following measurements for the Westinghouse Micarta be acceptable for a Model #5?

Measures : 1+1/4"Th. x 1+3/4"W x 5+1/4"Long

Thank you.
Posted by: Rick_Bowles

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 02:08 PM

Doug,
Your CW material is probably not Westinghouse micarta if it's indeed linen. Westinghouse micarta aka Ivorite was a paper laminate. Your model #5 with a 1/4" tang will require a block of 1-1/8" X 1-1/4" X 4-3/4". CW specs must be within 1/8" of requirements. Your piece of micarta measuring 1+1/4" x 1+3/4" x 5+1/4" will need some triming.
On a lighter note, Bo Randall once said:
"GM has a factory, Randall is a knife shop "
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 02:09 PM

Doug,
First of all...It's the Randall "shop"...not a "factory". Bo Randall jumped my a$$ once about that and told me: "Buck knives has a factory. This is a knife shop...and don't forget it"! And that's the "cleaned-up" version. O.K.: That's out of the way.
What area of the country are you in? Let me know and I can direct you to the "Authorized" Randall knife dealer in your area. Most are, like me, a couple of years behind. I am currently taking orders for the first quarter of 2010 thru 2013, depending on what folks would like to order. This will give you an idea of the amount of time some are behind (or ahead...depending on your point of view).
As far as silver fittings are concerned...Sure: No problem! They are installed, by quote, depending upon exactly "what" and "where" you want them installed.
The handle material needs to measure: 1 1/8" x 1 1/4" x 4 3/4" for a Model #5-5", 6" or 7". If you want a longer Model #5-8", you have to go to your sized stuff. The actual measurments required are as follows: 1 1/4" x 1 3/8" x 5".
I hope this helps. Any questions?? Name, email and phone # are at the bottom of my posts.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 06:16 PM

Capt.,

Thought I'd run this past you before I called to order. Model 14,CDT, leather w/ grips, drilled hilt, rounded NS buttcap (over duralumin for balance [neccesary ?]), thong (wrist type), sawteeth, all black spacers. Appreciate your time.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 07:01 PM

Run it by me? O.K. It's just a good thing you didn't run it by the Randall shop...because it would have been turned down. Page #6 of the catalog, under the Model 14, in the "CDT" section tells you "sawteeth are not available on a CDT". Sorry.
Also: Did you want a brass hilt with #18 holes? If so, it will not match your nickel silver butt cap and the whole package would be better off in matching brass. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 07:48 PM

Let me try one more time.
Model 14
1) leather w/ grips
2) thong
3) sawteeth
4) NS guard, drilled (is drilled a chargeable option?)
5) rounded NS buttcap
6) all black spacers
will go with brass if drilled is pushing me over
Thanks much!
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 07:55 PM

Uh-Oh.

No butt cap with full tang (to get saw teeth).
No saw teeth (again) with the cut down tang you have to have to have a butt cap.

Sorry Cap. Had to jump in.

Joshua, I am trying to get all this straight for myself.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 07:57 PM

Let "ME" try one more time..."SAWTEETH ARE NOT AVAILABLE" on a Model #14, CDT. O.K. Try again...Your turn. and yes: The holes are a chargeable option.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 08:16 PM

My last post I had removed the CDT. Not trying to annoy you.
With drilled counting let's try;
Model 14 NO CDT
1) leather w/ grips
2) drilled brass hilt
3) sawteeth
4) rounded brass buttcap
5) thong
6) all black spacers

Tom,
Somewhat similar to your "is this one for real thread"
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 08:28 PM

Joshua, buddy: How are you going to get a leather handle "without" a "CDT"? O.K.: From the beginning:
A Model #14 is available with a full, "exposed", tang. That means that the handle material "has" to be micarta, G-3 or G-10. No other material is available "slotted" so the full "exposed" tang can run through it.
Now A Model #14-7 1/2" "CDT" has a "reduced" hilt and therefore you can get leather, wood, stag, ivory, etc., etc..."BUT" you cannot get "sawteeth".
If you want a Randall knife with a leather handle "and" sawteeth your choices are:
Model #1...Model #5...Model "Combat Companion". That's your "only" cloices.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 08:36 PM

Thanks Rick--interesting info. I hope it's OK to attach this link, but could you tell me if you'd consider the following Westinghouse Micarta:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Westinghouse-Yellow-...1QQcmdZViewItem
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 08:41 PM

Thank you, sorry for my mix- ups.
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 08:43 PM

Thanks Captain for the information...I appreciate it! And yes....I agree, the term "factory" certainly doesn't give Randall the credit it deserves. Thanks to you and Rick for setting me straight.

By the way, I live in Nebraska......unfortunately, I'm not aware of any authorized dealers in my neck of the woods??
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 08:53 PM

Doug,
It's too late this evening and I'm "on the road" without access to my safe, but I have some of this material already made up on Randall knives. It is antique gold micarta and is "not" the old Westinghouse paper micarta. It's good stuff! It works well and the shop loves it. It's hard to get...NOW: But it's about a $30-$35 handle. When I get back from the woods (3 days or so) remind me and I'll post some of it.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 08:56 PM

Nebraska?
The closest "authorized" Randall knife dealer, selling at catalog price, to you is Gary Clinton, in Chicago. Email me, Doug. My name phone and email are at the bottom of my posts.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 09:17 PM

I couldn't resist purchasing this block.....I"ve looked around but haven't been able to find anything like it. Since it's not officially Westinghouse material, was $80 too much to pay (not sure what you mean by it being a $30/$35 hanlde?).

Captain--I'll drop you an email.

Thanks,

Doug
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 09:22 PM

Yes...it's way too much to pay, in my opinion. BUT: It's hard to find, verses "impossible" to find "Old Yeller"!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Perry Miller

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 09:39 PM

Doug,

What you bought was "Linen Miacrta" that may or may not have been made for Westinghouse. The micarta that Randall used years ago was "Paper Micarta". It does look very similar but, is not the same material.

It will still make a very nice handle. I also think that you paid a hefty price for it. I read the fellers write up on the block and he indicated it was like the shops "Antique Gold" which is a moderately close description.
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/09 09:58 PM

Well shoot....I was thinking it was a little more rare and that the price was in-line! Oh well, maybe there's a diamond imbedded in the center !
Posted by: BrianE

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/19/09 10:55 AM

Quote:

Well shoot....I was thinking it was a little more rare and that the price was in-line! Oh well, maybe there's a diamond imbedded in the center !





Doug,

To paraphrase another saying, don't buy the handle, buy the seller. Though to give him his due, he wrote a very good description.


Brian E

RKS 5770




Shown is my last shop order, a Model 1 and a large Gambler.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/19/09 11:11 AM

Doug,
Look: Ya' paid too much money for a piece of handle material...Big deal, Doug! Order a "way-cool" knife from a dealer, if you don't want to wait the normal amount of time. By the time your regular order would come out from the Randall shop, you'll had made up the difference, in time and money...AND...Have the knife you want! You didn't buy the materail to re-sell it did you? You bought it to install on a Randall knife. Get on with it...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/19/09 11:53 AM

You hit the nail right on the head!
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/19/09 12:10 PM

Quote:

Doug,
Look: Ya' paid too much money for a piece of handle material...



Been there. Done that. Have the t-shirt.
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/19/09 09:33 PM

I would probably pay too much for the shirt also.
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/09 01:48 PM

I think it's OK, but wanted to check with the experts....is the following a doable order?

Model #5

** 6" Carbon Steel Blade

** Customer Suppled Gold Micarta (chargeable #1)

** Right Handed Finger Grips in Handle (chargeable #2)

** Nickel Silver Single Hilt (chargeable #3)

** "Old Style" Squared Hilt Top

** Red/Aluminum Spacers (chargeable #4)

** Nickel Silver Butt Cap (chargeable #5)

** Brown Waxed Sheath

Much appreciated,

Doug
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/09 06:55 PM

Doug,
You got it, Man! No problemo!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 7033grip

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/09 08:02 PM

Oye, Capitan...Que pasa chico ?

Yo quiero una Stanaback Especial, con muchas cosas.
Muy Aligator, Muchas Sullivan, Muy plato, 1/9 meter, Estainless Esteel, y manos de piedra.

Es possible'?

Dubie
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/09 09:05 PM

Time to take your meds...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/09 09:15 PM

Great...thanks Captain. Package in route.
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/09 09:42 PM

Quote:

Oye, Capitan...Que pasa chico ?

Yo quiero una Stanaback Especial, con muchas cosas.
Muy Aligator, Muchas Sullivan, Muy plato, 1/9 meter, Estainless Esteel, y manos de piedra.

Es possible'?

Dubie



Dubie, we have talked about posting after happy hour.
Not good. Especially on Margarita night.
Posted by: 7033grip

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/09 10:10 PM

Es verdad. Buenas noches.

EGB
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/30/09 09:24 PM

Quote:

Jerry,
Red, white & blue...all black or all red are the only choices you have. Brass & Red or Brass & Black are chargeable options ($15.00 at present).




Sorry I didn't respond sooner, but I've spent most of the last week in the air. Between the NRA convention and Blade, it isn't gonna get much better any time soon.

But Chris, sorry, the shop is only charging me $10 for spacers. Maybe you're getting special treatment. In which case, I'd say it's probably well-deserved.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/30/09 09:27 PM

If you ordered a knife prior to the current price increases from the Randall shop, you will "lock in" the old price. If not: Current pricing for metal spacers (aluminum or brass) is $15.00.
Best, Capt. Chris (No "special" treatment here)
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/30/09 09:30 PM

Hmm. I've got a confirmation dated 4/23/09 that says $10. Maybe I'm the one getting "special treatment." In which case, I'll shut up now.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/30/09 09:33 PM

Jeff....Buddy!
Confirmation for your knife being completed? If so, it was ordered way back, hence old price. If not...You got lucky, but it sounds to me like an older order (probably a few years ago).
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/30/09 09:37 PM

Chris, old bud, old pal, old friend, I meant what I said - a confirmation for a new order I just placed that day. To be delivered in the fullness of time when I'm old and gray. Oh, wait a minute - I'm ALREADY old and gray.

Yeah, guess I got lucky.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/30/09 09:50 PM

Jeff....Old buddy...old chum....I'm the one getting old and grey! Current price "is" $10.00. I was thinking of wrist thongs....(also compass installed)Both went to $15.00. That's a good old-fashioned brain fart.
Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. Look at the "not so bright" side, Jeff. You didn't get "any" special treatment. Sorry to rain on your parade...CCS
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 04/30/09 09:58 PM

No problemo. You're only a couple years older than me; I'd say we both have a pretty fair claim on being "old and gray."
Posted by: BrianE

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/03/09 09:48 PM

What configuration would you recommend for a Fireman's Companion that would include silver fittings? I have one due next year and I have not had much luck finding unusual ones on ebay. Near "stock" configuration would be fine but not really what I am trying to get for this one.




Brian E

RKS - 5770
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/03/09 10:39 PM

Are you talking about a "Fireman's Special"...or a "Combat Companion"? If you are talking about silver fittings in a full, exposed tang knife there are not very any options at all. You're not seeing many on the "Bay" because nobody has ever wanted it, for one thing, and you are extremely limited in options for another. I'm sure Doug can supply you with some silver...but, short of custom "slotted" material in micarta or G-10 and a handle
shaping" option, you don't have anything else to choose from.
Now..A Combat Companion? Different story...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: BrianE

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/03/09 10:44 PM

Fireman's Special. So no on the silver, now on to the build. Even without silver fittings I don't seem to see many FS knives on ebay. Not sure as to how many different ways it can be configured as you probably already noticed.


Brian E
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/03/09 11:03 PM

I didn't say "no" to silver fittings. I said Doug could probably hook you up. Perhaps you met "no" you're moving on to something else. As I see it, without doing stupid stuff, like ordering a double hilt, which would look...well....pretty lame, here's the "practical" choices.
Black micarta, green linen (from Randall) or slotted orange G-10 or cherry micarta or green tenite (from "outside" sources).
Handle shapes: Single finger grip, 4 finger grip of border patrol.
Brass or nickel silver single hilt (rounded or squared top)
Tan, black or waxed sheath option.
Name etching or a name plate in the handle
Other than that...I'm too tired to think anymore. Ponder those...Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. Actually: I think green linen, nickel silver, border patrol and a black sheath would look awesome...CCS
Posted by: BrianE

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/04/09 07:37 AM

A Fireman's Special with green linen micarta done as a border patrol handle,a silver single hilt with a squared top and a tan right hand sheath would leave me with how many more options?

Brian E
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 10:00 AM

Hey Cap,

I'm putting together a combination in my head and want to see if it is doable. How many options do I have here:

Model 5-5
Black micarta border patrol handle
Wrist thong
Brass hilt, squared top
Brass/black spacers
Brass Butt
Carbon blade with sharpened top edge
Thumb notches

I am ordering this through Sullivan's and getting a custom high ride sheath. Not sure if you needed to know that or not, but just want to give you all the info.

Thanks Cap!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 05:19 PM

You have 2 "chargeable" options, nickel silver hilt and border patrol. You have one "non-chargeable", squared top. That leaves you with 3 options...but what would you add?
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 05:23 PM

Thanks, Keith,
It's always comforting to know I am helping Greg get an order done properly! (Just kiddin', dude! Greg's one of the good guys)...The knife is doable and you have used up "all" options allowable. Get some photos when it's done and post it in here.
All of this information gets asked and answered...It would be nice to see the "end result" sometime.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 05:23 PM

*Edited*--sorry Cap, I thought you were talking to me!

Glad to know mine is doable! And in about 2 years I'll try to post some pictures!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 05:28 PM

No...You don't have "any" left.
Chargeable options.
A) TB (Top Bevel Sharpened)
B) Brass spacers
C) Black micarta
D) Border patrol shaped handle
E) Wrist thong


Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 05:29 PM

Well...I'm sorry too. We're writing and posting on top of one another.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 05:39 PM

Capt. Chris,

What about the brass butt cap? Is that not a chargeable option?
Posted by: Condor

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 05:43 PM

Geez, Chris, I didn't know you'd been "promoted." I'll have to be more respectful from now on.
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 06:00 PM

Woops! Capt. Chris. . .I think highly of you and all, but. . .that was a slip!
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 06:15 PM

Keith, I am going to help you out on this one.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 07:24 PM

Am I missing something? I just got back to my desk...Promotion? O.K.: I give up?
Keith,
Yes, you are over by one option. I was scrolling back & forth to get everything counted up and missed that brass option. You could always order "all black" spacers. It's an option, but not chargeable, and looks fantastic with black micarta handles...and even better with a black sheath! Just an idea...NOW: Promotion?
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 07:36 PM

Thanks Capt!

The "promotion" comment was due to me inadvertently adding the letter "t" to your name.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/05/09 09:12 PM

"HOLY" cow!! Now I get it! How very Christian of you! Too funny!!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: BrianE

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/06/09 02:51 PM

Quote:

You have 2 "chargeable" options, nickel silver hilt and border patrol. You have one "non-chargeable", squared top. That leaves you with 3 options...but what would you add?
Best, Capt. Chris




Capt. Chris,

I would add the wrist thong, thumb notches and (possibly) the compass, though I have not decided whether or not I would actually want a compass on the knife.


Brian E

RKS 5770
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/06/09 03:06 PM

Brian,
Read the catalog and "non-atalog" description on the Fireman. Wrist thong cames standard on "any" full, exposed tang Randall, i.e. Model #14, #15, #16, #16-Spl. Fighter, and The Fireman.
Compass cannot be installed on any full tang knife, so your extra options are limited.
Thumb notches are standard as well. Hope this helps...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: BrianE

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/06/09 03:11 PM

Then about all I would add would be a name plate or etching. Doesn't seem to be much else left to choose from.

thanks,

Brian E
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/06/09 03:18 PM

BINGO!! That's why I asked.."What else ya' gonna do"? They're isn't much you "can" do.
Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. I once bought from Greg Gutcher (and I cannot find it) a Model "C" sheath for a "Fireman". It was "way-cool" and rode the knife lower, which I liked!!...CCS
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/08/09 11:20 PM

Think I got it nailed.
#14-CDT
1) #14/18 hilt (brass) "drilled"
2) leather handle with grips
3) brass buttcap
4) thong (wrist type)
5) stainless
6) (no charge) all black spacers
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/08/09 11:28 PM

Nice knife! Don't forget to post some pics when you receive it. Also: What about $20 extra and get a black "C" styled sheath (to match your spacers)?
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: question for Captain Stanaback - 05/08/09 11:53 PM

Good suggestion. I will call you Monday to place my order. Thanks for your help.
Posted by: ArcherAlex

Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/12/09 03:16 PM

Hi, my first Post here.

I want to order a Randall #26 Pathfinder with Stag Handle , Stainless Steel Blade, and a Compass in the handle.
I have seen that the Stag is curved different on most #26.

Can i ask for a less curved handle?


best regards, Alex Ramm
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/12/09 04:16 PM

You can request "straight stag, if possible", but may or may not get it. You can order a #26 with a 3-piece "Trapper-style" handle and it will be more straight.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/12/09 04:21 PM

Or you could just put a butt cap on it - that'll get you straighter stag too.

(Love that knife, Chris, thanks for the pic.)
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 10:39 AM

Capt.,

Thinking of ordering a "Cattleman" for work (electrician). Wondering what options are avaliable for this model. I am aware of stainless and "slab sides", but I'm unsure of options like thong and fingergrips. "Knife of the Week" thread is not very helpful. Those of you with pics should post them!
Posted by: ArcherAlex

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 10:57 AM

Quote:

[....] You can order a #26 with a 3-piece "Trapper-style" handle and it will be more straight.





Thanks for your answer, i think i will go with the Trapper-style handle.

Just one question,

The #25 Trapper has a "ribbing/riffle" on the back, does the #26-4" Pathfinder have this, too? Or do i need to add that as a option?


Alex
Posted by: vklough46

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 11:45 AM

Quote:

Quote:

[....] You can order a #26 with a 3-piece "Trapper-style" handle and it will be more straight.





Thanks for your answer, i think i will go with the Trapper-style handle.

Just one question,

The #25 Trapper has a "ribbing/riffle" on the back, does the #26-4" Pathfinder have this, too? Or do i need to add that as a option?


Alex




Hello Alex,

The 25 comes standard with thumb notches the 26 does not. They can be had as an option.

Kevin
Posted by: Rob_Michaels

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 04:05 PM

I am going to place an order for a Model 12-6" Little Bear Bowie. I like the look of the forward curved double hilt (in Nickel/Silver). I wonder if the double hilt or the forward curved double hilt is too big for a 6" blade. I have seen some excellent knives in pictures, but I can't tell if they are 8" blades or the 6". Any thoughts about whether the forward curved double hilt is too big, heavy, or unwieldy for a 12-6"?

Also, the catalog states the Little Bear Bowie comes with thumb notches. The same is not mentioned for the Sportsman’s Bowie- do you have to pay extra for the thumb notches with the Sportsman's Bowie?
Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 06:51 PM

Rob,

The attached photo is that of a Little Bear Bowie with 6" Blade and Model #22 handle. Personally I don't believe the FC Double Hilt is too big, heavy or unwieldy for this knife but that is just my opinion. I guess it depends on whether your knife is going to be a user and if so for what general purpose.

Posted by: Rob_Michaels

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 07:47 PM

Quote:

Rob,

The attached photo is that of a Little Bear Bowie with 6" Blade and Model #22 handle. Personally I don't believe the FC Double Hilt is too big, heavy or unwieldy for this knife but that is just my opinion. I guess it depends on whether your knife is going to be a user and if so for what general purpose.




Tom,
When I wrote, " I have seen some excellent knives in pictures, but I can't tell if they are 8" blades or the 6" blade", your's was one of the pictures I was referring to. I saw it under the knife of the week for model 12, and I think it is a beauty. If only I could get that handle!

Thanks for the information, based on this, I am leaning towards the FC double hilt.
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 07:56 PM

Rob,

The craftsmen (I like to think of them as artisans) at the Randall shop scale the guard to the knife.

Here is a FCH on with a 5" blade.

I think it looks marvelous!

Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 08:04 PM

Tom,

You are so correct about the craftsman at the shop keeping everything in proportion and Yes I think of them as artisans as well.

That's a beauty. Seems you are on a roll lately.

Rob,

You can get the Model #22 Handle just not the AGM Micarta unless you supply it yourself. If I were going to order one right now I would strongly consider the Maroon Micarta.
Posted by: Warren_Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 08:43 PM

Tom,

Is that AI material on that CC? Great looking set-up. You did well with that one!

Best,
Warren
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 08:55 PM

Tom,

Great knife and info. I haven't handled too many Randalls with curved hilts, and always wondered if there were just one or two sizes. Great thread!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 09:55 PM

#12-6", Sportsman's Bowie does not come with thumb notches. They are available, but uses one of your 5 options.
A #12-8" has much more artistry and "sweep" than a #12-6", Little Bear. The #12-6", "LB" also has a more traditional finger choil than the "Big Bear". Once you get use to them, they are easy to differentiate.
In my opinion, and this goes against everyone elses', I think the FCH is too heavy. I like a nice #1 styled double hilt. About an ounce difference, whether it's 'proportioned" or not...It's still a good bit heavier...and every now and then the Randall craftsmen don't get the FCH's quite small enough.
Best, Capt. Chris
P.S. They do look good though! (The FCH)...CCS
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 10:04 PM

It's almost a little scary, but I seem to see eye to eye with Chris on an awful lot of things, and this is no exception. I've seen 12-6LBs where the FCH looked "just right," but I've also seen them where my impression was that it was just too much. It's perfect on the 12-8; that's such a powerful statement of a knife that the big old hilt doesn't detract from it in the slightest. I think of the LB as more of a hunting knife, though, and would think long and hard before I put any double hilt on it, much less an FCH.
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 10:26 PM

Quote:


P.S. They do look good though! (The FCH)...CCS



Cap, my favorite hilt on larger Randalls is the double #1 but I do appreciate a FCH when it is scaled to a small knife.
Posted by: alan_grombacher

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 10:44 PM

Hey Tom,

I agree. Sometime this summer, I should be getting a #12 9 inch with a fighter guard just like the one on page 198 of Robert Hunt's "Randall Military Models. It should be a sweet bush knife.

Cheers,

Alan Grombacher
RKS#5531
Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/17/09 11:22 PM

Here ya go Alan,

I think you could hack through just about anything with this #12-9 14 Grind

I'm sure you will enjoy yours when it arrives.

Posted by: Rob_Michaels

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/18/09 10:45 AM

Quote:

You can get the Model #22 Handle just not the AGM Micarta unless you supply it yourself. If I were going to order one right now I would strongly consider the Maroon Micarta.



I have a Model 5-5" on order than has the nickel silver hilt, crow's beak butt cap, and maroon micarta, so my plan for this 12-6" is walnut. I looked at Capt Chris's table at the Gun & Knife show this weekend and saw some other nice wood blocks for handles.
As with other knives I've ordered, I will continue to change my mind until I place my order and sign on the dotted line in the shop- even then, we still have one more change available!
Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/18/09 12:40 PM

Rob,

Looks like you are a step ahead of me. I love wood as well and have a couple in the order pipeline.

I think Walnut is a fine choice and has been used for knife handles for a long time, there are a lot of classic older RMK's out there with Walnut handles that still look fantastic.
Posted by: alan_grombacher

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/18/09 02:38 PM

Hey Tom,

Thanks for posting your knife. It is a beauty. Nice stag. I'll have to post a picture of mine when I get it.

Cheers,

Alan Grombacher
RKS#5531
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering and options" questions - 05/18/09 07:41 PM

I like the regular dual hilt on the large knives. Here are three bowies. Compare the different hilts on the two 12-9's--the forward curved one doesn't improve the look over the regular one (in my opinion). Also note the Little Bear hilt, proportioned down to fith the knife's size.
-Steve

Posted by: stickergrp

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/21/09 02:28 PM

Randall's "custom material handle guide" expresses minimum dimensions in a rectangular format. Would a round piece of material (like AI) be acceptable as long as the diameter is at least the longest minimum rectangular dimension, and within the 1/8" tolerance? Thanks.....Ed
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/21/09 03:22 PM

Ed,
That is the way most of my musk ox is "shaped" as it stabilizes better. Yes: No problem. Also: Do not forget that is you want handle "shaping" to use the next size larger specs when ordering or cutting your handle material. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/21/09 03:31 PM

To anyone interested in "AI" (Alternative Ivory) to be used as handle material on Randall knives: Please be aware that the shop "will" install "AI" on traditional (CDT) cut down tang knives, but the Randall shop will "not" install it on Model #14, #15, #16, #16, Spl. Fighters or "Fireman's Specials. The full, "exposed" tang knives are limited to micarta, G-3 and G-10 material. In the past certain laminated wooden materials have been used (packawood, etc.) but, according to Valerie (my phone conversation with her today) the shop's policy at present is micartas "only".
Of course, a #14 or #15 ordered in the "CDT" configuration is considered "O.K.", just as a Model #1 or #3, etc. would be. I hope that clears this up. Any questions? Please post them here and I will try and give you...or get for you, the correct answer. (You could fill volumes with what I do not know)...Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: stickergrp

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/21/09 05:48 PM

Thanks Capt. for a measure of your wisdom. Hope to meet you at Blade '09.....Ed
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/26/09 04:42 PM

Captain--is this order doable:

#8-4 Old Style

Stainless Blade (chargeable #1)
Nickel Silver Reduced Hilt (chargeable #2)
Squared Hilt Top
Stag Handle
Red/Metal Spacers (chargeable #3)
Nickle Silver Butt Plate (chargeable #4)
Wrist Thong (chargeable #5)
Waxed Brown Sheath

Thanks,

Doug
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/26/09 07:41 PM

Doug,
It all sounded pretty good...until you got to a "reduced" hilt...and then added "squared" top. "That" is not doable.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/26/09 08:01 PM

Captain--is that because it adds one additional chargeable option or because a reduced hilt can't have a squared top? Thx.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/26/09 08:10 PM

A reduced hilt is just that: "reduced". If you add the extended size and weight of the much larger squared top the knife would be out of proportion and require an unusually cut piece of hilt material. For "all of the above" the shop will tend to "just say no". "Could" they do it? Sure. I wouldn't take the order as I can't face rejection by Valerie...and I would be facing it, in the case of this knife.
May I ask..."WHY"? Do you simply want something that nobody has ever seen before, or is there some other reason? You can order a nickel silver "single" hilt and have it "squared"...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/26/09 08:23 PM

Understood.....just looking for something unique. Thanks for the expertise.
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/26/09 10:17 PM

Quote:

.....just looking for something unique.



Doug, aren't we all?
Just keep looking. You will find it!
Posted by: Cabinet_Man

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/27/09 10:05 AM

Doug,
You could just turn the knife over... the bottom of a "reduced" is flat, squared.
~dale




Posted by: Cabinet_Man

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/27/09 10:13 AM

top



Posted by: Cabinet_Man

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/27/09 10:16 AM

Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/27/09 06:32 PM

So that's why the top edge of the blade is sharpened!

Posted by: meuhey

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/08/09 07:03 PM

Hi, I ordered a 12-8 bear bowie. I wanted to know if the RMK green micarta color looks like olive color. Also if the surface of the handle looks grainy.

Also I ordered the knife with the coolie butt cap, not what I expected. Is there spacers between the coolie buttcap and the handle??? I know I can change my order one time...What's the fee for a change??? Thank you Patrick
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/08/09 07:12 PM

So many questions...O.K.; The green micarta used on Bowies is green "canvas" so it has the Grainy look you are speaking about...Yes!
The coolie cap has thin spacer between the micarta and the butt cap...Yes!
The Randall shop charges (I think) $35.00 for an order change...Yes!
Does that cover it? If I forgot something just pipe back in!
Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris

P.S.: Oh yeah: The green canvas does indeed have an "olive" coloring. (Seen here on a pair of "Stanaback's") Your finished handle color and "grain" will resemble these...CCS
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/08/09 07:50 PM

Hi Capt.,

Can a Cattleman's be done with slab sides, grips and thong?

Thanks,
Josh
Posted by: meuhey

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/08/09 08:14 PM

hey thanks alot Capt. !!! I guess I'll stick with what I chose, just hope the smooth coolie cap looks fine on a commando shape handle & overall knife!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/08/09 09:51 PM

Thong?...Yes!
Grips?...No!
Only 1/4: stock knives and larger (#12 "Heavy") can have finger grips installed. This means the Cattleman is not eligible for FG's, as it is 3/16" stock. Sorry.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/09/09 07:39 AM

Thanks Capt. Gave my catalog to a friend (waiting for a new one) and couldn't remember/wasn't sure.

Josh
Posted by: stickergrp

Re: Randall "ordering" question - 06/11/09 02:52 PM

Just received the latest customer supplied handle material requirements. Looks like everything is much the same except for the 24-4" and 4" Gambler. These are 3/4" x 1 1/4" x 4 1/8". Hope this helps.....Ed
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/12/09 11:42 PM

Can the following knife be had from the shop:

Model 7 "Fisherman-Hunter"

Stainless Blade (5")
"Double" Nickel-Silver Hilt (is this considered 1 or 2 chargeable options?)
Finger Grips (in leather handle)
Wrist Thong

Thx
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 08:31 AM

No grips on a model 7. The rest seems o.k., I'm not positive if the double NS hilt counts as one or two, one I think. The Capt., or a more "seasoned" member will have a "for sure" answer.
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 08:35 AM

Oh alright. Was waiting for Chris to respond, but since he hasn't: The double N/S hilt counts as one "extra."
Posted by: jeepsandknives

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 10:16 AM

Thought Capt. was on vacation, just trying to help. My apologies if I overstepped my bounds.
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 01:40 PM

Sorry, just one more "is this order OK" question?

Big Bear Bowie

Stainless Blade (chargeable #1)
Nickel Silver Forward Curved Hilt (chargeable #2)
Black/Metal Spacers (chargeable #3)
Black Micarta Handle (chargeable #4)
Crows Butt Cap (chargeable #5)

Not sure if adding a crows butt cap would actually count as one or two chargeable options (one for the cap and one for changing the shape of the standard handle as a result of adding the crows butt cap??).

Thanks for your help!
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 02:05 PM

You're good to go there, Doug. The cap isn't extra because a duralumin cap is already part of the base price. You are aware that the crow's-beak butt caps are only available in duralumin or brass, right?
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 02:10 PM

Gotcha---thank you. Yes, after doing some searching on these forums I did notice that the crow was only available in those materials. Much appreciated.
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 02:38 PM

Quote:

Thought Capt. was on vacation,



Cap is always on vacation.
Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 02:50 PM

Doug & Jeff

The Crows Beak butt cap will count as an chargeable option.

WHY?

The duralumin butt cap is standard with the leather handle because the leather requires a butt cap. Whenever you change to a handle material that does not require a butt cap to finish the knife such as stag or micarta then a butt cap or plate becomes a chargeable option.

What handle shape are you going to request for the micarta? Commando shape is the standard shape with the leather handle.

Since you are going with a Crows Beak but cap you may want to consider the Model #22 handle style.
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 02:54 PM

Yes, Tom; I didn't mean to imply that it wasn't a chargeable option - it is - it's just not two options.

Any type of shaped handle would also count as a chargeable option, though. Since he's already at five, something else would have to go for that to happen.
Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 03:41 PM

Right you are Jeff,

That knife would be ordered with a #22 handle and you kind of save an option that way.
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 05:33 PM

Thanks for the input. I'm just in the process of using my "one-time free" change order that I have directly with the shop. Here's what I settled on for the Big Bear:

Stainless Blade
Nickel Silver Forward Curved Hilt
"Rounded" Nickel Silver Butt Cap (sticking with the commando handle)
Black Micarta
Black/Metal Spacers
Waxed Brown Sheath

Now....I'd better get this in the mail before I change my mind again!

Thanks again all.
Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 05:42 PM

Doug,

That should be a real beauty. I love the blade lines on the Big Bear Bowie. I assume you want black & aluminum spacers, metal could mean aluminum or brass. The nickel silver butt cap should help balance the knife.
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/13/09 11:18 PM

Good point Tom....yes, aluminum is the way I plan on going. Can't wait to see the finished product!
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/09 08:18 PM

How about this one:

COMBAT COMPANION

Owner supplied "Black Palm" wood
Stainless Steel Blade
Single hilt
Saw teeth
Comando shaped handle
Wrist thong
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/09 08:29 PM

That's fine, too . . . as long as it's a brass hilt. Note that there will be a $55 charge for providing your own wood.
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/09 08:57 PM

Quote:

That's fine, too . . . as long as it's a brass hilt. Note that there will be a $55 charge for providing your own wood.




No problem on the $55 charge. I know the single hilt will be brass. I had a hard time on deciding between a NS hilt or the wrist thong. Also wondered if I could get finger grips instead of the comando shape.
Posted by: Wally

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/09 10:16 PM

As soon as I'm done typing this I'll go through my limited reference material in search of the answer, that I'm sure many of you already know off the top of your head... Are sawteeth an available option on a No. 2?, maybe a 2-4? Has it ever been done?

Thanks!
Posted by: Condor

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/14/09 10:28 PM

It doesn't take a lot of "reference materials" to answer this one. Page 29 of the catalog: Sawteeth are "[a]vailable as an extra only on Models #1-6", 7", 8", #5-6", 7", 8", #14, #15, #16, and Combat Companion."

As far as whether it's ever been done, I'll let someone who knows more about the history of these knives answer that one. I'd sure be surprised if it's been done, though, as I can't see it having much practical value on that blade.
Posted by: Wally

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/15/09 12:18 AM

Thanks for the quick reply. , I did find the same mention in a current catolog. Lke you, I haven't seen this option "in the flesh". Practicality and pleasing asthetics are two viable reasons for owning Randalls. Having carried a #1 in Iraq, for reasons different from most collectors, I can assure everyone that my days of carrying knives for use in business are (hopefully) behind me. Since I have never seen a #2 with sawteeth it occured to me that it might be a very pleasing weapon, visually. As I said, I don't intend to ever use one proffesionally again, I'm just a lover and small time collector now. Having said that, with no intention of ever using a #2 for anything more than fondling and drooling over, I bet a No 2 with sawteeth would work wonders between the sixth and seventh ribs, or with a long blade, plunged directly between the left collarbones and "rocked" back and forth to open the heart and lungs with one good poke... Of course, I could be wrong.I do think those serrations will often make there way through tougher mediums, like cartilidge and thick protective skin, like on a human back, or the sinewy musculature of the back of ones' neck. Those sewteeth might be more valuable to the fighting man, than say, a hunter or a bushman, dressing deer and birds and the like. Great thing about Randalls, they make the best knife, for every application!
Posted by: Condor

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/15/09 12:28 AM

"Quick reply" - all of my e-mails go to my BlackBerry, which can be both good and bad.

Sawteeth on commando knives has been a topic of heated debate ever since Gerber started putting them on the Mark II about a million years ago. I can see where the smaller teeth on the MK-II might be of some value; not sure about the bigger teeth on the Randalls, though. Then again, I'm no expert.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/15/09 11:31 AM

I'm Baa-aack!!
Doug...and anyone else who is watchin'. The Model #7 is available with a double hilt...and it only counts as "one" option.
Secondly: A #12-8" with stainless (option #1), nickel silver double hilt (option #2), forward curved (option, but not chargeable, as that shape is standard on a #12-8), aluminum and black spacers (option #3), Black micarta handle (option #4) and a "crow's beak" butt cap, in aluminum (option #5) is doable and the handle will "automatically" be shaped in the #22, "Outdoorsman" style at no additional charge. In order to install finger grips the crow's beak would have to be changed to a standard (or rounded) butt cap...and finger grips are "chargeable", so you would be over on options. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/15/09 11:38 AM

Wally:
Sawteeth, especially the way Randall cuts teeth are only available (or were available) in a "dirk/stiletto" styled blade on a Jack Crider special. The sawteeth that Jeff refers to on the Gerber's were really more serrations, and much, much more assymetric, as opposed to sawteeth with a singular direction built into their shaping.
I have seen a Model #2 with teeth and am fairly sure they were shop-installed. The knife was several decades old and unavailable in any reference material. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/15/09 11:42 AM

Mike,
(I have received and sent emails)...The "Combat Companion" you have asked about is doable, but if you switch from Commando-shaped handle shaping to finger grips, you will be charged for another "option". Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/15/09 06:48 PM

Nice to have you back Captain....you are the man!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/15/09 09:05 PM

Everyone else did a good job in my absense and thanks to all of you. It was kinda nice to take a "working vacation" without having to carry the laptop and do the computer thing!
Best, Capt. Chris
P.S.: Doug: Give me en email at my "regular" email address...Thanks, CCS
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/19/09 09:10 PM

How many chargeable options?

Model #7-4 1/2

1) Nickel Silver Double Hilt
2) Smooth Flanged Butt Cap (Duralumin)
3) Wrist Thong
4) Leather Commando Handle (Does this count as one?)
5) Stainless Blade

Do I still have one more chargeable option left?

As always...thanks for feeding my disease!
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/18/09 03:02 PM

Capt. Chris,

I have a slot coming up with Sullivan's in about a year or so and I am making up my mind as to how to option a model 5. You answered some questions for me a while back, and I believe I ended up with 6 options, 1 of which was a sharpened top blade.

I have decided to eliminate the sharpened top blade option to keep it at 5. But my question is. . .would it be bad form to, after I receive the knife and at a later date, send it back to the shop to have the sharpened top blade option added? I realize that would be adding a 6th option and taking up shop time. I certainly do not want to do something that I shouldn't.

What is your opinion on this?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/20/09 11:07 PM

Keith,
In "my" opinion...5 options is 5 options. If folks sent knives back for name etching, compass installs, wrist thongs, top bevel sharpeneing, etc. the delay in scheduled shipping times will just be augmented. I don't remember your specific questions about the Randall you want to order, but perhaps there is another place to cut an option??
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/21/09 06:44 PM

Thanks Capt! I agree with you. I just wasn't feeling good about trying to get around the rules like that. 5 options is indeed 5 options.

I've looked at the options I have and I think the sharpened top bevel is the one that needs to go. You suggested all black spacers in lieu of brass/black spacers, but I would rather keep the brass option.

Thanks again!
Posted by: tarheel

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/09 12:29 AM

I've never switched options before, so I'm totally ignorant about the subject. Let's say I have on order a Model 1-7 SS, NS2, NSBC, Stag, B&A spacers which comes to $535.00. If I want to substitute ivory for the stag, and silver for the hilt, buttcapp, and spacers, how much do I now owe? Do I get credit for the options already paid for? Would it be easier to just go through a dealer with the supplied items and just star from scratch?
Also, is it possible to switch models entirely?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/09 09:40 AM

Everything is possible. The "order change" will cost you an additional $35.00. Randall does not supply ivory or fine silver. You would have to purchase those items on your own.
Have you already paid for the knife in full? If so, the money applied towards the nickel silver, metal spacers, butt cap and stag would be credited towards the installation of your silver and ivory. Those labor charges, plus the $35 order change would probably eat up all that you had paid...and then some. The ivory install and order change adds up to $100 alone. I don't know what the shop charges for installing silver, as I don't do that much of it. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/09 09:54 PM

Other than customer supplied handle material/blade length/name etching, what options (if any) are available for the #10 "Salt Fisherman and Household Utility?"

Thanks in advance,

Doug
Posted by: silverknife

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/09 10:46 PM

Dan,

Sorry that I did not notice your question earlier.

The shop charges the same to install pure silver hilts and butt caps as it does to install nickel silver hilts and butt caps (or butt plates). The shop charge to install sterling silver spacers is the same as it would be if you ordered aluminum or brass spacers.

The one significant difference is that while the shop will not install nickel silver lugged hilts at any price, it will install pure silver lugged hilts on any knife where a brass lugged hilt is available. Again, the shop charge for installing a pure silver lugged hilt is the same as the shop charge for installing optional brass lugged hilts.

To make sure that there is no confusion on the subject, while the shop will install pure silver hardware on its knives, it does not supply the pure silver hardware, I have been doing that for about 15 years.

Regards,
Doug
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/22/09 10:51 PM

The Model #10-3" is available with a standard blade or a "drop point" blade. Also: You can order tan, waxed or black sheaths.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: alan_grombacher

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/01/09 01:33 PM

Hey Captain,

Perry had that beauty #23 that just sold. He had an A style sheath with it. Is that a commonly ordered option?

Cheers,

Alan Grombacher
RKS#5531
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/01/09 03:36 PM

He had an "A" styled sheath for sale with it, which is "standard". Only problem is: The Goof pictured it with a Model #25-5" sheath, which is "not" only not standard, but "unavailable" for the #23. He noted it in the bottom of his post.
Just to be correct for everyone: When ordering a Model #23, "Gamemaster" you can get the following:
1) Standard Model "A" sheath with a hone pocket and a "handle-wrapped" keeper strap.

2) A Model "A" sheath with "NHS" (no hone sheath), which will give you a smooth front sheath and a "diagonal" (over the hilt) keeper strap.

3) No "pouch-type" sheath of any type is available for this Randall knife.

4) Either of the first two sheaths can be ordered with a tan, black or waxed finished.
I hope this helps answer a completely sensible question, asked in response to a completely unsensisble "for sale" ad. Thanks, Perry!!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: alan_grombacher

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/01/09 03:59 PM

Hey Captain,

Thanks for the answer. Off to the evening shoot now.

Cheers,

Alan Grombacher
RKS#531
Posted by: BOB_TEATES

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/04/09 06:51 PM

I have a #1 on order.can I use my "one time order change" to change the order to another model,say a #28? Bob
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/04/09 07:07 PM

You can..."but" you will be charged for the order change.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: BOB_TEATES

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/05/09 02:51 AM

Thank you Capt
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/09/09 02:55 PM

Are there any options as far as the what material or combinations in the stack of the handle/grip on the Model 27? Thanks
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/09/09 03:01 PM

Jerry, the options for a #25 handle on a #27 are exactly the same as for a regular model 25. The leather spacers are mandatory and can't be changed out for anything else. The center piece can be just about anything you can imagine: Stag, ironwood, walnut, rosewood, or Micarta from the shop, or just about any other piece of CW material you want (as long as you pay the extra set-up charge). I believe "polished" stag is still an option also, but this may have changed.
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/12/09 05:19 PM

Cap or anyone else "in the know"; could I send in moose horn for handle material? Also, I once had the inside of a moose horn slabs that I had a local knife maker use and it sure came out nice looking. So if a round moose horn antler is not possible, what about slabs on a full tang, like a CDT? Thanks-

Pap
Posted by: Moosehead

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/12/09 06:20 PM

Quote:

Cap or anyone else "in the know"; could I send in moose horn for handle material? Also, I once had the inside of a moose horn slabs that I had a local knife maker use and it sure came out nice looking. So if a round moose horn antler is not possible, what about slabs on a full tang, like a CDT? Thanks-

Pap





Mike,

At one time one could use Moose antler as full handle material. A number of years ago I obtained a "Big Bear" Bowie with just such handle.

The piece of antler was selected by the late Tom Clinton for the original owner, from the antlers of an Alaskan "cousin" of mine. This was confirmed when I met Tom at the 2005 Blade Show. He remembered the knife and thought it was probably the only Randall ever made with Moose antler.

I'm sure Dirty Water can tell us more about the use of Moose past and present.

Below are some photos.















Needless to say this is one of my favourite Randalls!

Cheers!

David
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/12/09 07:22 PM

Moose, (the antler, not the man ) is no longer an option with RMK. Although this one turned out very nice, there are far too many problems with this material to continue to use it.

---DW---
Posted by: Moosehead

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/12/09 07:38 PM

Thanks DW!

Although you may have made one Pappy very unhappy, many Meese are sighing with relief.

Cheers!

David
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/12/09 08:00 PM

I kinda understand about the round version of moose horn, just like elk horn. But a slab version should work fine, similar to what Rudy Ruana did with with his knives. No problem with his elk horn slabs over the years, maybe 50 years without shrinkage. The shop uses other American wildlife horns such as buffalo and musk ox for rounds, but for slabs, I would think it could work. I am not an expert by any means on this subject, but still curious. Many thanks for the replys and info so far.

Pap
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/12/09 10:51 PM

Mike,

At this time, RMK does not install antler slabs on any of the current models.

---DW---
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/12/09 11:07 PM

Again, not to argue or anything, but just wondering what the reason is for no antler slabs. I am sure there must be a good reason, inquiring dumb butts like me, just want to know. Many thanks-

Pap
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/18/09 11:01 AM

Here is a question about how the "five chargeable option limit" applies to Non-Catalog knives. Several of them are listed more than once in the accompanying Non-Catalog Price List. Using the Denmark Special (0-F) as an example, one configuration (marked as "(standard) (stag)") is $330, and another (marked as "(photo)") is $375. The only difference that I see between them is the Stainless Steel blade and the Black/Brass Spacers of the photo, which must account for the $45 price difference.

But, my question is how do thse two listings affect the "five chargeable option limit"? If I choose the "photo" configuration, priced at $375, can I still choose five chargeable options, or do the Stainless Steel blade and Black/Brass Spacers consume two of them, leaving me with a limit of three.

The Combat Companion has two versions in the Non-Catalog Catalog, and three listings in the Non-Catalog Price List.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/18/09 11:16 AM

Denmark Specials come with a stag handle & carbon blade. Despite any photos showing options, the "standard" knife is the only configuration that still allows 5 chargeable options. The Combat Companion comes "standard" with a carbon blade, brass double hilt & leather handle. Anything else that is "chargeable" is considered an option and counts towards the 5 option limit.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/18/09 11:22 AM

Could you spec a Combat Companion with the new Ivorite Border patrol handle, single hilt, sawteeth, thong.
Would you have any options left to change hilt to nickel silver or blade to SS. I would keep RWB spacers
Thanks in advance Capt. Chris

Peter
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/18/09 11:52 AM

There is no upcharge to go from the double hilt to the single. You would have one option left is you should want stainless.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/18/09 04:58 PM

Quote:

Denmark Specials come with a stag handle & carbon blade. Despite any photos showing options, the "standard" knife is the only configuration that still allows 5 chargeable options.


While not trying to start an argument, and more like thinking out loud, what then is the point of having two separate prices for the Denmark Special in the Non-Catalog Models II price list? If what you wrote is indeed shop policy, and considering the current five chargeable option limit, it would be useful to footnote the "photo" configurations, noting how many additional chargeable options can be specified.

In the case of the Denmark Special photo, it would mean three additional chargeable options can be specified.
Quote:

The Combat Companion comes "standard" with a carbon blade, brass double hilt & leather handle. Anything else that is "chargeable" is considered an option and counts towards the 5 option limit.


I think that this is a slightly different case, because there are two separate instances of the Combat Companion, 0-D and 0-E. One is as you described (but with a Duralumin Butt Cap), which is 0-D. The other, which is 0-E, has a Black Micarta handle in Commando shape, in lieu of a Leather handle with a Duralumin Butt Cap.

I guess that my questions and comments are suggesting that the Non-Catalog Catalog has not been changed in order to better take into account the current limit of five chargeable options, and how they affect what is listed in the Non-Catalog Price List.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/18/09 06:10 PM

I'd suggest you contact "GTR" with regards to the "why" & "why not". That's not my field.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/18/09 06:12 PM

You replies to my questions have helped me to better understand how the "five chargeable option limit" applies to the Non-Catalog knives. Thank you.
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/09 04:19 PM

Can a leather handled #8 Bird & Trout be ordered with the Old Style Blade? Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Rawdawgn

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/09 08:07 PM

I have a #14 on order through the shop with the following options: Stainless Blade, Sawteeth, Nickel Silver #1 style hilt, Green Border Patrol Handle, Black Sheath. Can i substitute a piece of green/black linen micarta in place of the shop supplied green micarta or will i have gone over the limit on options? Is it possible to change to a customer supplied handle material after the knife has been ordered? thanks in advance.
chris mcmeans rks#5846
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/09 09:22 PM

I just got off the phone with Scott. We both agree that we don't "think" "Old Styles" are available in leather. I'll check with Valerie when I return from the Tenn. knife show. I recall #21's in leather but Scott doesn't remember that either. Sorry to be vague, but I'll get an answer soon. Standard #8-4's are definately available in leather.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/09 09:25 PM

You have room to change your specs to "CW". The shop will charge you ($30-$35) to change the order...but it's doable.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: You know, I hope, the material needs to be slotted and cut to "exact" size by you. The shop will not do it...CCS
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/09 09:27 PM

Captain--thanks for taking the time to look into that....much appreciated.
Posted by: Rawdawgn

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/09 10:28 PM

capt. chris,
i want the 14 that is on order to have the same handle material as the 15 i sent you pictures of (i would post a picture here, but i don't know how to resize it under 100k). i bought the 15 second hand, not through the shop/dealer. how do i go about finding that material and what are the specifics for the size and slot?
again, thanks for your time.
chris mcmeans rks#5846
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/08/09 10:41 PM

Re-send me the photo and I'll try and post it. Contact Jim Behring (Treemen Knives) and see if he has some of the material. He has the proper dimensions. If it isn't green/black you'll have to send me the knife so I can research it and try and find the stuff.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/31/09 08:03 PM

I guess this forum has pretty much taken the place of the "Randall Shop News Watch here for shop news and announcements. Got any shop questions?"

So here goes.

Why no #22 crow's beak but cap available in nickel silver?

Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/31/09 08:10 PM

Tom,

I believe it's because the NS is just too hard and time consuming to grind down and shape into the Crows Beak shape.

At least that's what I was told somewhere along the road.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/31/09 08:11 PM

Size, labor and expense...Nickel silver butt caps are very hard, very hard to work with and shape and the stock required to shape a crow's beak is fairly expensive. The "labor" issue is as much of a factor as the cost. Jed (production foreman) gives me crap all the time for nickel silver collar orders. That's why I don't do a lot of 'em.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/31/09 08:17 PM

Thanks Tom and Cap.
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/10/10 01:58 PM

On a carving set.....if you order different material handle, buttplates, spacers, etc., do you pay the additional cost times three to cover the knife, fork and sharpening steel?

Thx
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/10/10 02:35 PM

3 handles, 3 x the labor, 3 x the parts, 3 x the price.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/10/10 11:04 PM

Thanks Captain.
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/12/10 10:41 AM

How many chargeable options are the following?

#26 + Stainless Steel + #25 Handle + Pure Silver Single Hilt + Pure Silver Butt Cap, Radiused + Sterling Silver & Black Spacers + Ivorite Handle Insert

#26 + Stainless Steel + #25 Handle + Nickel Silver Single Hilt + Nickel Silver Butt Cap, Radiused + Ivorite Handle Insert

Also, when specifying the #25 handle for knives other than the #25, such as the #26, #27, and the varieties of the #12-9" for which this is possible, how much is this option, and does it constitute one chargeable option?
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/12/10 12:07 PM

BTW, I think the first is six chargeable options, and the second is four.
Posted by: silverknife

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/12/10 10:09 PM

The sterling silver spacer option is not chargeable on a #25 handle since metal spacers are used anyway.

Regards,
Doug
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/10 05:06 PM

I did a thorough search of this thread, and didn't see this covered, so here goes.

I found out today that "Dealer Specials" are not affected by the current limit of five chargeable options. I received a clue about this a day or two ago, and confirmed this policy with the shop.

I guess that this might by the shop's way of making the Dealer Specials, well, more special. Or, it might be because it is tough to pin down exactly what the "base" configuration is.

In any case, I found this information to be useful, and it seemed appropriate to pass along to the rest of the Randall community.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/09/10 10:47 AM

All memberes,
I have been receiving calls, emails and PM's regarding another thread set up to answer your questions. I will not respond to any PM's (seldom. if ever have). I will not "cross thread" (Get it?..."Cross-thread"?) with another thread or topic If you would like questions answered or researched, please contain them in this thread. If I do not know the answer (which is a common occurance) I will get in touch with the proper source at the Randall shop (not by phone, fax or email as this slows production time down) and get back to you with the correct answer. I will try never to speculate and will get you the best and most correct answer possible from the best source...but "PLEASE"...restrict your questions to this thread. I just returned to my desk, after 5 days on the road to and from the Alabama Gun Collecotr's show in Birmingham, Al., to find 116 emails. Thanks for your understanding and co-operation.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Gamble

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/09/10 01:12 PM

well one of those was mine, sorry. I'm trying to figure out if my order for a couple knives with all blue spacers will be filled as placed despite the fact that all blue spacers is no longer offered. Many thanks!!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/09/10 02:51 PM

Blue alone won't happen, Gamble. Better get in touch with Valerie (if the order is placed through the Randall shop directly) and make the order change. What is the total configuration? Perhaps I can make a suggestion.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Gamble

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/09/10 05:39 PM

that's a real disappointment for me, when Valerie took the order and sent the confirmation some years ago it was a ok.
I'll call the shop to speak to them but in the meantime the configurations are as follows.

1.)5-5, stainless, single square top brass hilt, bp in bcm, thin and rounded brass butt cap, all blue spacers!!

2.) exactly the same but carbon with a six inch blade

i was really looking forward to seeing the all blue sandwiched between brass and black micarta, my next choice would be all red or brass/black most likely.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/09/10 10:44 PM

Sir,

Sorry I have not responded sooner,

Your order will be filled as ordered since it was requested BEFORE we dropped the option of all blue spacers.

Since this was not a supply problem, (like AGM), we will deliver as ordered.

---DW---
Posted by: Gamble

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/10/10 10:15 AM

Hey Scott, no problem. Many many thanks!
happy day!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 03:27 PM

Gamble...and anyone else interested:
Poor quality photos (just look at Daytona practice and qualifying and you'll see what I am contending with) but here are 2 knives that I received within the past week. Both have all "one color" spacers. Both of these are "still available" today.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 03:33 PM

The first being a Model #1-7" with brass hardware and all "red" spacers. This second one is a "tricked-out" Model #19-5" with Mascian Mascure and all "black" spacers. Feel free to order these colors...and there is no additional charge for this option. It does "not" count towards your 5 options on the knife...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 03:35 PM

Here's a little better (close-up) of the handle.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: vklough46

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 06:49 PM

Thanks Capt. Chris.
It's good to see what actually can be ordered.

Kevin
Posted by: Tom_D

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 07:02 PM

Kevin, you might check the new thread, Randall FAQ, also.
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 07:31 PM

Capt,I understand that only all red or all black can be ordered. Is there a reason that you can't get any other color combinations as long as it's the standard in stock colors of red or white or blue? I'm not trying to be negative,I'm just wanting to know if there is a reason why. Thanks. 29R
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 07:39 PM

Thanks for the post Cap. Like Kevin said it's good to see what actually can be ordered. Kevin
great post as always.

See Ya,

Chief

Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 07:50 PM

25 years of Randall Made Knives ordering experience and 42 pages of Randall "ordering" questions, says it all, I believe. Top it off with the enthusiam shown here in regards to RMK knives, I truly think this is the only thread needed.

Capt., Thank-You for your guidance in showing and helping other Randall Knife collectors and users, what can actually be ordered from the shop. It is appreciated.

Michael Mason
RKS # 4382
Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 07:56 PM

I agree with Chief.

Great post Kevin!

Whereas I Was Blind, Now I See

John 9:25
Posted by: Tom_D

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 08:09 PM

Michael, there is always room for another opinion when you have an open mind. I appreciate both threads. No offense intended for anyone.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 08:12 PM

Jerry,
I asked this exact question quite a few years ago to "GTR" and his answer was basically: "You've got to stop somewhere". That's as far as it went...and probably as far as it "will" go. I know from personal ordering experience that abbreviations for blue and black have been mixed up (or probably mis-typed) and the wrong spacers got put on a knife. At any rate: With one bad news comes a good news. The aluminum and brass spacer options more than offset the missing "all" colors and really dress up a knife, in my opinion and the opinion of hundreds of customers I have taken such orders for. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris


PS: A trip down memory lane: My "Trout and Bird" in dressed stag and all blue spacers...CCS
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 08:14 PM

Ya' can't really see the coloring from that photo. Sorry about that. Try this one.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/11/10 09:41 PM

Capt, Thanks. I had a feeling that there was a reason why.29R
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/13/10 11:26 AM

I just posted this knife is the #22 thread, but thought someone might want to know about and see this handle material. It's red & blue laminated micarta and is Randall shop-supplied. It is available for small and medium size Randall knives. It is shown here with aluminum & red spacers, crow's beak butt cap, wrist thong, nickel silver single hilt, thumb notches, stainless blade and a black "no hone" pocket sheath.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tglassco

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/13/10 12:29 PM

Beautiful knife Capt., Thanks for posting.

I believe you told me in a previous conversation that even though the Model #22 came standard with black micarta the knife could be ordered with other colors of shop supplied micarta for a nominal upgrade charge. If I remember correctly you said a switch to Maroon micarta would be a $15 upgrade charge. Is that still accurate? and how about this red/black material you have shown or the new white Ivorite material. What substitutions are available and what would be the upgrade charge?

Thanks again for the info and photos. A Model #22 is in my future
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/13/10 01:59 PM

I believe all micartas of equal value are an even swap Tom. This knife charged out at $480.00. Standard knife is $435.00, "plus" $15 for a wrist thong, "plus" $10 for metal spacers, "plus" $20 for the black sheath upgrade equals $480.00. "No" extra charge for the red/blue.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: vklough46

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/13/10 02:48 PM

Thanks for the post Cap.
It's because of information gleaned from one of your posts that I ordered a Model 19 with this micarta in a Model 22 handle shape.

Kevin

John 6:46
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/15/10 06:02 PM

Capt.,

This isn't an ordering question, but seemed like the best thread to ask it in. On customer supplied handle materials (stag is what brought this question to mind), how does/will the shop know when a knife is built using shop supplied vs customer supplied in say 5-10 years down the road? With the knives having a lifetime guarantee on shop supplied handle material, it makes me wonder.

Thank-you for your help on these questions.

Michael Mason
RKS #4382
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/15/10 07:22 PM

All "CW", regardless of what type of material is marked with that customer's order. "After the fact" if a customer has a problem and provides his invoice as proof of original purchase, the "CW" will appear. If not, and it is not sambar stag, the shop will reject it. If it "is" sambar stag and closely resembles the type, size, etc. of the shop's stag, there is a good chance that it will be repaired as a shop-supplied piece.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/15/10 08:25 PM


Thank-you for the reply Capt..

Michael Mason
RKS #4382
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/17/10 04:41 PM

Hey everyone:
This is just an "update", if you will, regarding the new Randall shop-supplied ivorite. I have had a couple of inquiries asking me if the shop will make a Model #12-8", "Bear Bowie" using this great new material. The answer is "yes". You can also order a Model #12-9". either a standard #12-9 or a #12-9", #14 grind. It is listed in the catalog "BUT" seeing as how I have had specific questions regarding this, I just felt I should mention it here. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Any handle shape that is available on these knives is also available using the new ivorite...CCS
Posted by: Wally

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/25/10 03:50 PM

Is a waxed no-hone sheath a do-able option for a Combat Companion, when ordered directly from the shop?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/25/10 05:46 PM

Wally,
Yes it is. It will have a diagonal keeper strap and the cost option is $10.00 Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Wally

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/25/10 07:32 PM

Exactly what I needed to know, I didn't see the cost for a waxed sheath in the new catalogue. Is this considered a "chargeable" option? Thanks Capn!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/25/10 07:47 PM

It is certainly charged to you, but it does "not" count against your 5 option limit. That is reserved for chargeable options on the knife itself.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/25/10 09:58 PM

Cap-

What about a NS butt cap on a Cattleman's with a regular round stag handle, is that do-able?

Pap
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/25/10 10:08 PM

I believe it is doable Mike...and I got your email, but...2 things:

A) It'll be butt-ugly and way, way, way too handle heavy!
B) Computer woes have kept me from responding.
C) (Bonus coverage)...I'll check on the "for sure"...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/25/10 10:11 PM

I just have never seen one and it could be a cool "ugly" Cattleman's.

Pap
Posted by: 7033grip

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/25/10 10:27 PM

Pappy, just put sewing thimbles on your fingers when you castrate those Elk. Please don't put a buttcap on a Cattleman's knife. :):)
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/25/10 10:30 PM

When I obtain my "new" computer, along with my retrieved data, I'll show you a Small Gambler with a butt cap Pappy. It makes a lot more sense. The tang on the cattleman may not be suitable. I'll find out...Good or Bad.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/25/10 10:40 PM

Quote:

Pappy, just put sewing thimbles on your fingers when you castrate those Elk. Please don't put a buttcap on a Cattleman's knife. :):)





OK Cap, but only if you come to Idaho and help me "cut" one of those bulls in my back yard.

Pap
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/26/10 07:10 PM

I spoke with Scott today and...indeed: You can have a nickel silver butt cap installed on a "Cattleman".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/15/10 06:05 PM

Capt.
When you order a model 3 with a brass butt cap and leather handle, will it come with the brass nut exposed or will it be smooth/flush with the top of the cap? Do you have specify which way you want it? Thanks 29R
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/15/10 06:36 PM

Jerry,
Any Randall ordered with a leather handle, i.e. a "full" leather handle, will have an exposed nut. The internal (flush)butt cap nuts are available on handles of any other material. It has to do with amount of pressure and torque needed to compress all of the leather washers, along with the fact that the exposed nut allows the handle to be re-tightened, should the allum escape or dry up from between the leather washers.
I have found a photo showing the "brass on brass" you were speaking of. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/15/10 07:07 PM

Here is another knife, a #5-7", that is comparably-optioned (in terms of a brass butt cap and stacked leather handle), which has the requisite exposed nut:

Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/15/10 07:35 PM

Thanks Capt and Lunde for the replies, it told me exactly what I wanted to hear and see.29R
Posted by: johnedwards

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/10 11:00 AM

I ordered a Model 11 from the shop about 5 years ago. Its time for me to send the ivory etc. Two questions : Since 5 years ago my interest has changed and I would like to change the Model 11 Ivory to a model 24 Ivory. Will the shop accept such a change and if yes will they charge me current shop price for the 24 or the 5 year ago price plus the change fee? I must do this by June as the knife is due in December. Thanks John
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/10 11:22 AM

John,
You will still pay catalog price...from the year you ordered. You can expect a $30.00 fee for the order change. Orders can be changed, but it is limited. For instance: You cannot change from a #24 to a #12-11 "Smithsonian". In your particular case there is no problem with the changes you want to implement.
Please make sure you send your handle material, sized to the proper dimensions for the "new" order. Hope this helps...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Ed_T

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/10 12:54 PM

Quote:


Please make sure you send your handle material, sized to the proper dimensions for the "new" order. Hope this helps...
Best, Capt. Chris




This brings up an ordering question that I have been meaning to ask...

If I understand correctly, the specified dimensions are "minimums" with acceptable variation being no more than 1/8". This sounds like "proper dimensions" are only those up to 1/8" larger than spec.

However, I have also been told that acceptable variation is up to 1/8" either way. So for example, a micarta block that is 1-1/4" instead of 1-3/8" could still be considered proper.

Which is correct - only 1/8" larger or 1/8" either way ?

Thanks for your help Capt'n.
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/10 01:13 PM

The 1/8" variation is larger, not smaller. I include a table in the Randall Ordering FAQ that covers this, specifically Item I-4. See: http://lundestudio.com/RandallOrderingFAQ/I/4.html
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/10 01:30 PM

It's a good practice to stay right on the cookie jar, but a tad over is OK. I would be careful with stuff that's tough on equipment, i.e. Orange "G-10" for example. The shop frowns on having to whittle this stuff anymore than they have to.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Ed_T

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/10 03:07 PM

Thanks Capt'n and Ken.

I appreciate your help (as well as your patience).
Posted by: pigman08

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/23/10 09:24 PM

Hello Capt. Chris,

First time posting, so go easy. I've been reading this thread 'til my eyes hurt and I haven't seen this specific question covered, but I'm guessing that the answer will be "no": Is a Model 14 available available w/ the CDT and saw teeth/no saw teeth grind? I've read that saw teeth are not available on a CDT, but I wasn't sure if that means that the saw teeth grind is not available or if the actual saw teeth are not available. As I said, I'm guessing that the grind is not available, but I had to ask to make sure... I think that a 14 w/ the saw teeth/no saw teeth grind and a stag handle would look f'n amazing.

Thanks,

Mike
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/23/10 10:17 PM

Originally Posted By: pigman08
I've read that saw teeth are not available on a CDT

At one time I owned a #1 with a micarta grip (cut down tang) that had saw teeth.
Posted by: pigman08

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/24/10 07:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
Joshua, buddy: How are you going to get a leather handle "without" a "CDT"? O.K.: From the beginning:
A Model #14 is available with a full, "exposed", tang. That means that the handle material "has" to be micarta, G-3 or G-10. No other material is available "slotted" so the full "exposed" tang can run through it.
Now A Model #14-7 1/2" "CDT" has a "reduced" hilt and therefore you can get leather, wood, stag, ivory, etc., etc..."BUT" you cannot get "sawteeth".If you want a Randall knife with a leather handle "and" sawteeth your choices are:
Model #1...Model #5...Model "Combat Companion". That's your "only" cloices.
Best, Capt. Chris


I guess I should have given a complete description of what I've got in mind:

#14-7 1/2" CDT
Saw Teeth/No Teeth Grind
Tooled Carbon Steel
Stag Handle
Single Nickel/Silver Hilt
Black & Aluminum Spacers
Finger Grips

Capt's quote mentions that saw teeth are not available on a #14 CDT, but what I'm wondering is if the saw teeth grind is available w/ out the teeth on a #14 CDT... Like I said, I'm guessing "no", but I had to ask

Thanks,

Mike

Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/24/10 11:08 AM

"Pig" & "Bomb",
Good question. Yes: I'll be gentle. To fully understand this answer you need to look at the differences in some blade grinds. First of all: The answer is "NO"...You cannot get a sawteeth/No sawteeth grind on a #14 (or #15) "CDT".
The blade shape and forging is generally the same on both forgings with or without the teeth. That forging is only done on full, exposed tang models. The ability to get sawteeth (and NST) on a Model #1 or #5 is because those teeth are cut into and worked into that style of blade, hence the differences in them. Quite often one Model #1's sawteeth will appear to be quite a bit different than another Model #1. I don't just mean the "size" of the teeth but location, etc. The #14's and #15's are more consistant.
I will tell you one of coolest knives to order is a 6" or 7" Model #5 with the "NST" option. That may be an alternative to what you are looking for. Sorry: I cannot find an example to post a photo of, but perhaps somebody else has one...If not: Sounds like another "build" for the future. Any: I hope this explanation helps.
Exceptions? Yes: There have been in the past. I suspect they came from a broken tang of something along those lines, but that is "purely" speculation on my part. It would make sense that, if a "NST" blade forging had an improperly forged or shaped full exposed tang, the #14 room would salvage the blade and make up a "CDT" out of it...Just a guess.
Other exceptions? Well: Not really. "BUT" (There's that word again) take a look at a "Combat Companion" (The old RKS club knife) and you will most assuredly see a very close resemblance to a CDT #14 with NST grind. I understand that it is only a 5" blade...but it's a close design.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pigman08

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/24/10 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
"BUT" (There's that word again) take a look at a "Combat Companion" (The old RKS club knife) and you will most assuredly see a very close resemblance to a CDT #14 with NST grind. I understand that it is only a 5" blade...but it's a close design.
Best, Capt. Chris


Capt,

That's actually exactly what I was thinking last night if the options that I had suggested weren't possible... I was looking @ the Knife of the Week thread for the CC and saw a couple that really got my attention and are close to the config/look that I'm interested in (Tom, one of 'em was yours @ post #40944!)... In fact, I think I like the look of the added thumb grooves/notches as well... Thanks for confirming what I had already suspected, and I'm looking forward to learning alot more about RMK's thru this great resource.

Mike
Posted by: shadowfax

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/06/10 04:04 PM

I'm a little confused on using customer supplied material and how many options it uses. For example, on a #1 knife, say 7", which normally comes with stacked leather handle, if I order that knife with shop-supplied Ironwood, then I know that it will use one of my 5 chargeable options. However, if I find a nice piece of burl-wood to use, does that cost me only one or is it two options? Is it one option for the customer supplied material, and another option to switch from leather to wood?

The same question for using real silver spacers from silverknife. Is it one option to switch to metal spacers and another to use customer furnished material?

What would the factory costs be for the two options above?

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Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/06/10 04:27 PM

Customer supplied handle material is "one" option. If you choose a handle "shape", other than standard, that would be "2"/ Fine silver is one option..."per item(s)" installed!
Cost: Customer supplied wood: $50.00
Fine silver is charged "per item". That means that if you get a fine silver hilt, fine silver spacers and fine silver butt cap..."3" options are used. I just double-checked this with Valerie...that's the deal.
A fine silver hilt is the same price as a nickel silver hilt: $15.00 for a single and $20.00 for a double.Spacers? Same price as Randall shop-supplied metal spacers: $10.00. The butt caps, plates, etc. would be the same price as Randall's nickel silver butt caps or plates: $60.00 for a butt cap...$$30.00 for a butt plate.
I hope this answers all of your questions.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/06/10 05:41 PM

Good stuff. Thanks Cap!
Posted by: shadowfax

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/06/10 08:06 PM

Captain, you are indeed a fount of knowledge. Thanks.

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Posted by: armedcitizen

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/06/10 11:07 PM

What is the shop charge for a #6 grind on a Model 7?

Thanks.
Posted by: Tom_D

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/07/10 02:16 AM

Not a chargeable option and makes a good user. Another nice no charge option is the #6 grind on a #4-6" in stainless.
Posted by: armedcitizen

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/07/10 09:06 AM

Thanks Tom.
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/09/10 05:41 PM

Is Black Palm one of the shop supplied woods? Thanks
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/09/10 07:12 PM

Jerry:
No...It is not. Shop-supplied woods include:
*Rosewood
*Walnut
*Maple
*Ironwood

A while back the shop still had some "Ziricote" but it is not catalogged and may or may not still be available. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/09/10 09:39 PM

Thanks Capt. Who would be a good source for some of the Black Palm?
Posted by: matrix0475

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/11/10 02:33 PM

I am interested in purchasing a nice piece of fossil walrus ivory at a resonable price. I have tried David Warther and Gulf Breeze Firearms. Does anyone know of another reliable source?

Thanks

Charles
RKS #5795
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/11/10 02:43 PM

Charles,
What do you consider reasonable? I have had great dealings with the folks at Gulf Breeze. I sell fossil walrus, but only when ordered on a Randall knife from me. It is too expensive to offer the handle material "only" for sale.
Best, Capt. Chris
P.S.: This question is in the wrong thread as it really does not have anything to do with the Randall shop or ordering policies. I would ask that it be moved to the "Buy...Sell...Trade" forum...CCS
Posted by: matrix0475

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/11/10 08:18 PM

Thanks for the info Capt. Chris. I will give you a buzz/email in a day or two.

Charles

RKS # 5795
Posted by: Rob_Michaels

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/12/10 10:40 AM

Greetings, Capt!

I am considering ordering a Combat Companion. I believe this "stock" non-catalog model comes with black micarta, brass double hilt, and a commando shaped handle. These specifications are included in the price of $380 in the new catalog, but I was wondering if any are considered “chargable" options. I know I would like Stainless, but if I asked for other changes, do I still have 4 more?

Thanks!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/12/10 10:51 AM

Any "CDT" fighting knife (i.e. a knife with a double hilt) can be ordered with a "commando" handle at no additional charge. Whatever else you want will not change that. The "Stock" Combat Companion comes with a leather (straight) handle, carbon steel blade, brass double hilt and a duralumin butt cap, just like a Model #1. The price is $345.00.
The $380.00 reflects the $35.00 charge for the black micarta. "That" is a "chargeable option" and counts towards the "5".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Gamble

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/21/10 11:50 PM

Will the shop put a name plate on to an existing knife? It's a black micarta bph.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/31/10 04:07 PM

I apologize for not answering this question earlier. Lots of excuses ( "On the road", etc.) but the bottom line was I knew the answer...and I didn't know the answer. I knew the Randall shop could install a name plate, after the fact. I didn't know the "cost" differences. Here goes:
Installation of a name plate in the handle of a Randall "when ordering" intially is $45.00. The letters etched into the plate are charged at $2.00 each, with a maximum of "5" allowed.
Installing a name plate as an added on option to an existing Randall which has already been completed is $50.00. The lettering charges remain the same. Hope this helps...and again... sorry for the delay.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Gamble

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/31/10 08:28 PM

No Problem I know you are busy, thanks for the reply. Is the font for the plate etching the same in style and size as what gets etched on the back of the blade?
G
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/31/10 09:05 PM

It is "not" The letters are quite a bit larger. If you look on Page #29 of the new Randall catalog you'll see an example of the lettering.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/27/10 08:39 AM


Hi Capt.,

On a Model 10, can you request silver pins, rather than the brass pins that are normally used?

Thank-You...
Michael Mason
RKS #4382
Posted by: JimBetts

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/27/10 09:21 AM

Capt, Can a straight back 10-3 still be ordered?
I just bought one from a friend. It has a straight back,rosewood handle, two pins and a thong hole. The pouch sheath is marked Randall Made Knives Orlando, Fla
I am curious about time era of this knife.
Thanks,
Jim
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/27/10 10:53 AM

Mike:
To the best of my knowledge this is not an option. Being the weekend I cannot verify this. Consider it a "NO" unless I post otherwise. Good question though, dude!
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Thanks to the two of you for the "mail"...CCS
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/27/10 11:21 AM

Jim,
You must be very specific when ordering, but "YES", it is still available. I ordered one last year (I've ordered them since, but last year's is the one to note) in AGM, which I supplied to the shop. Being as I already had one with the "drop point" (DP) I ordered a Model #10-3", STD. Thinking I was fixin' to complete my little "set", I was excited when the order came out. I opened the #10-3" and discovered another "drop point". I called Valerie and she explained to me (Valerie has to explain a "lot" of things to me...I'm what you call a "slow-study") that a Model #10-3", "DP"..."IS STANDARD".
I re-ordered the knife, requesting it as described below:

1 ea. Randall Model #10-3", "Straight Point" blade (not a drop point). I got the knife I wanted. It is pictured below...as a matter of fact, just in the interest of rattling Tomthebomb's chain...pictured is my "set" of AGM Randall Model 10's. Just shot the pics quickly so please excuse the photo. Good luck aquiring the "straight" Model #10-3". Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: JimBetts

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/27/10 11:41 AM

Capt, Thanks for the reply. Now I know how to order a straighgt point. Tom will enjoy the picture that you sent. I would like to know when the straight point was dropped as the standard and the drop point became standard.
Thanks,
Jim
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/27/10 12:14 PM

I don't think there was an exact date. Sometime in the past several years is about as definite as you are going to get on this one. As much as many of my Randall collecting friends toil to date things...some things cannot be dated that closely. I could probably go back over old invoices and find orders dating one way or the other. A couple of printings back the Randall catalog started including an insert photo of the #10-3", "DP". Let's say about 2002-2004. I have orderd #10-3" since then and not requested the "straight" blade (point) and received them. Things like this make it difficult to "exact" such subtle changes.
Gotta tell ya'...A couple of really good ordering questions today! I hope the answers are nearly as good.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/27/10 01:40 PM

Capt. Chris and guys

I ordered a model 10 3" in July 2001 and did not know to specify. The invoice says drop point n/c, so I am assuming that the drop point was standard then. It was delivered several months later with the model 9 pro thrower I had ordered at the same time, as non forged knives had shorter delivery times at that point.
I hope this helps

Peter
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/28/10 05:15 PM


Hi Capt.,

Thank-You for the reply. Just curious....

Michael Mason
RKS #4382
Posted by: Moosehead

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/14/10 07:25 PM

Can either Chris or Scott tell me if a Bowie clip point can still be ordered on a #15 blade?

If so, is it considered a chargeable option?

Thank you in advance!

Cheers!

David
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/14/10 08:12 PM

Yes...and both counts.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Wally

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/14/10 08:48 PM

Capt,

If, when ordering from you, a customer is supplying thier own handle material ( in this case, wood ) do you trim to ensure it will meet RMKs specifications, if nessasary?

Thanks,
Wally
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/14/10 10:14 PM

Hopefully not Wally. I prefer to use my material. As I have had multiple problems with customer's stuff, I am hesitant to do so. I suggest that they send me the material (already sized) for me to inspect before we write the order. I can get some stuff cut to size but it can get quite pricey!
Here's an example. Call Gene Beal and ask him how much time and money "we" have in the Lignum Vitae cutting episodes for my 25th Anniversary "Stanaback Specials" and "Cracker" Model #8's. We burned up to ban saw blades (at $65.00 each) and have cut halfway through "one" piece of wood! A total of about 2 1/2" so far. We now have a $175.00 (cost) carbide blade ordered and..."no wood cut and sized yet"!
I buy nice, hard-to-find exocitc wood to sell on Randall knives. I don't buy it to resell the handle material alone. Customer's usually are not ready / willing to pay the freight for cutting the stuff...and, of course, the Randall's shop ($65...or whatever) charges to install it.
Short answer: Call me "before" you place the order...Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Moosehead

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/15/10 09:53 AM

Quote:
Yes...and both counts.
Best, Capt. Chris


Thanks Chris!

How much does does the shop charge for a Bowie clip point?

Besides the #15, can you tell us on what other models it is available as an option?

Thank you.

Cheers!

David
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/15/10 02:54 PM

Bowie clip point option is available on Model #14, "Attack" and Model #15, "Airman" knives only. The charge is $15.00.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pigman08

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/05/10 08:42 PM

Capt Chris,

When ordering a Model #11 in either 4-1/2" or 5", is the additional length/cost included as a chargeable option, or are there still 5 options left to choose from... I found this one scanning thru Ebay and it's being advertised as "a seven option knife". I counted six options w/ out taking the 5" length into consideration, and I'm wondering if the 5" is open to interpretation as an option.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Randall-knife-loaded-model-11-/170523167427?pt=Collectible_Knives

Thanks,
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/05/10 09:02 PM

Mike,
It has 6 options...period! No interpretation. The seller is probably comsidering the thumb nothces an option, but they are standard on this model. No extra option counted for 4", 4 1/2" or 5". His sheath is standard also so there's no floating option there...there. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Options include...

* Nickel silver single hilt
* Aluminum & black spacers
* Stag handle
* RH finger grips
* Wrist thong
* Compass installed
...CCS
Posted by: pigman08

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/05/10 09:18 PM

I had already contacted the seller and mentioned that I thought he was mistaken and asked if he was including the thumb notches, which I let him know were standard on the Mode #11... He replied that it's a 5" blade and that is an option... I didn't want to quibble w/ him, so I went to you for an expert opinion... err, I mean fact!!...Thanks for the reply, 'cause it's reassuring to know that I OCCASIONALLY know what I'm talking about.

Thanks again,
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/05/10 09:58 PM

Well....It "is" an option. You have the option to order that blade length. It just isn't a "chargeable" option. A Model #11-5" with thumb notches, carbon blade, duralumin butt cap and a leather handle is a "standard" knife. Same for a 4 1/2" or a 4"...Yada dada.... My old man always said to never argue with an idiot, cause anyone else watchin' doesn't know which is which...Glad you had it right all along.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pigman08

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/12/10 02:16 PM

Capt Chris,

According to the RMK website: Please Note: On 4 1/2" and 5" sheaths, the keeper strap snaps around the handle because there isn't enough room above the hone pocket for a diagonal strap... Is this true for all Model A 5" sheaths, because I saw a Model 25-5 on Evil-Bay last week that had a Model A sheath w/ the diagonal keeper strap... The seller added photos showing the back of the sheath indicating that it was indeed for a 25-5, and it was not stamped "R" indicating a replacement... I'm kinda regretting not getting this one because it seems that it sold for not too far over what it would have cost from the shop w/ the stainless blade, sheath, and wrist thong.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250676084841&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Thanks,
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/12/10 03:19 PM

Model #25's "usually" come with a pouch sheath. You can request a Model "A" sheath but it is not the norm. Model #1, #3, and #5's with a 5" blade come with a hone pocket "and" a diagonal keeper strap. Many models with 4-4 1/2" blades exclude the diagonal keeper strap, along with "some" 5" models...but not "all". I read the same thing in the catalog before posting this clarification....dunno?? I guess everything printed in the catalog and on the website leaves itself open to "interpretation".
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Just for comparison: Here's a 5" Model #3 and #4 with stock (standard) sheaths from the Randall shop...CCS
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/12/10 10:17 PM

I don't know how much this is worth, but when I ordered my last 25-5 (in October of last year), I requested a model A sheath and was told by Val that it wasn't available for that knife.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/12/10 11:16 PM

I'm sorry Jeff but either you misstated what you were wanting or you misunderstood Val. There IS an option of the model A sheath for the 25-5, however, there is NO option for a pouch sheath for the 25-6.(at least thru the RMK shop that is)

---DW---
Posted by: pigman08

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/13/10 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Dirty_Water
I'm sorry Jeff but either you misstated what you were wanting or you misunderstood Val. There IS an option of the model A sheath for the 25-5, however, there is NO option for a pouch sheath for the 25-6.(at least thru the RMK shop that is)

---DW---


Thanks for the reply Scott... Is that w/ the diagaonl keeper as well?... I emailed a request to the shop yesterday for availability, cost and lead time, so hopefully I'll hear something back w/ in a few days... If it's not too much trouble, can you post which, if any, other 5" or shorter models are available w/ a Model A sheath & diagonal keeper as an option?

Thanks again,
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/13/10 02:28 PM

Scott, I don't suppose you could change that order for me? (If it's easier for me to just call Val again, let me know and I'll do that.)
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/13/10 05:20 PM

That would be...let's see,,,

#1-5, 3-5, 4-5, 5-5, 22, 25-5, I thinks that's all... Cap?

Sorry, Jeff you have to face the music and call Val yourself...

---DW---
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/13/10 06:25 PM

#4-5" comes with a handle "wrap-around" keeper strap, to the best of my knowledge and experience. Scott: Maybe you have to specify on a #4-5" a diagonal keeper strap. I have not checked one out in the past few months. Here's a couple of mine...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/13/10 06:27 PM

Also:
A Model #19-5" (with or without a hone pocket) comes with a diagonal keeper strap.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/13/10 06:32 PM

A Model #19-4 1/2" is the "other" keeper, unless it is ordered "without" a hone pocket.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/13/10 06:39 PM

The new Randall Model #28-4 1/2" comes with a diagonal keeper strap. The reason for this is the fact that it does not include the option of a hone pocket. Hope all of this isn't confusing everyone. I just figured some "visuals" might help.
Best, Capt. Chris


Posted by: pigman08

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/13/10 07:48 PM

Thanks f/ the info guys... I was checking out all of the Combat Companions in the Knife of the Week thread, and I noticed that all of the hone pocketed sheaths had the diagonal keeper strap as well... I'm guessing that this is standard f/ the CC?

Thanks again
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/13/10 09:04 PM

10-4. The "CC" carries the same sheath configuration as the #1-5" or the #5-5".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Tanasie

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/15/10 11:44 AM

Captain...

I don't think I have ever heard this asked before...I want to order a #3-5" and I don't like the look of a straight handle on a short blade #3, is it possible to order a blade with the tang that is dropped slightly ? I'm not using stag, is there maybe a handle style that the shop offers that would give me a 'dropped' look, would a teardrop shape work ?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/15/10 01:01 PM

Rex,
We used to be able to order a dropped tang. I can't speak to that possibilty at present. I will check on it to avoid shop phone calls and let you know. A teardrop shaped handle will most certainly help. I have a green "canvas" micarta Stanaback Special-4" in stock that just happened to come out on my order this week. When I get set up to shoot photos, I'll take a couple and post them up here. Good question, dude!
As for "other" Randall shop-supplied handle material that would help with the "drop"...nothing comes to mind.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/23/10 07:39 AM

I have a knife on order with a rounded single hilt. If I want to change that to a square top hilt, does that count as a change as per the change fee? How far ahead of when knife is due should I contact the shop?

Thanks

Peter
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/23/10 08:31 AM

Rex:
"Dropped" tangs are no longer offered as an option when ordering. The Model #5 has a natural "slight" drop but nothing significant. "Teardrop" shaped handles are limited to certain models and have limitations of their own. For instance: You cannot get finger grips, etc. with a "teardrop". Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/23/10 08:35 AM

Peter,
The shop will not charge you an order change (normally $35.00) for the hilt change you are asking about..."BUT...(There's that word again) the change has to be made well in advance. If your order is within 90 days of scheduled (or shipping) date it's a "no" all the way around. My suggestion?? If you want it done...The earlier you call the shop, the better. If it is with a dealer...same scenario. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: danbrew

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/31/10 08:48 AM

Will the shop accept a Randall from a customer that has already been delivered and etch a name on the blade?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/31/10 09:38 AM

Dan,
Yes they will. Certain things are "doable" after the knife is completed and etching is one of them. As with any "repair" (it's considered a repair) the shop will get in touch with you prior to etching and give you a quote. Upon your acceptance they will proceed with the work. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Tom_D

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/31/10 10:18 AM

Chris, wouldn't the number of existing chargeable options on the knife come into play here?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/31/10 10:33 AM

No, not in most cases. If the shop sees (thinks) someone is abusing this service they will certainly make the call. Quite often (well...not "quite often"...but often) I will sell a Randall knife, as will the shop, and it is a gift, etc. The person wants it etched or whatever...The service is there because of situations like this. If a customer starts using up 5 options on a knife order and then sends the knife back into the shop for:
Etching
Compass
Wrist thong
Etc.
They will handle it. My advice...and "all of my orders" are for the customer to include whatever they want in the 5 options. I will not exceed that...period.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Besides Tom: In the case of this question, the knife could have had less, in fact..."no" options, so I answered the same way the shop would have. Abuses will happened (or be attempted) but I do not think it is a huge problem. If it were the shop would change their policy...CCS
Posted by: Tom_D

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/31/10 12:28 PM

OK,thanks, I'll take that as another "maybe". grin
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/01/10 09:57 AM

The current charge for dealing with CW handle material is $60, but if a knife's catalog-configuration handle material is Stag, this charge is reduced to $20. (Of course, there are some who cannot fathom the thought of paying to have Stag removed, but that's an entirely different matter. wink )

Does this reduced $20 CW handle charge apply only to knives whose catalog-configuration handle material is Stag? If so, it seems that the #5-4", #8, and #21 definitely fall into this category, and possible the #25, #26 (with #25 Handle) and #27. For Non-Catalog knives, it seems that the #12-9" #14 Grind with #25 Handle, the Denmark Special, GTR Special, #11-3.25", and Cattleman would qualify. The Cattleman is somewhat special in that it has the flat-sided Stag, but it's still Stag.
Posted by: mileyray

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/01/10 10:25 AM

Hello Captain Chris

Its really for god for me that you post few model number of knife but How I can see the image of different model.

I am knife lover, knife collection is my hobby so how I can see different knife model picture , which make me clear for order.

_______________
throwing knives


Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/01/10 10:36 AM

Here is a good place to start: http://www.knifetalkforums.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=40328
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/02/10 09:23 AM

One more question. When specifying the Teardrop handle shape, at least for models for which this handle shape can be specified, is it a chargeable option? If so, what is the current charge?

Thanks...
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/02/10 10:20 AM

Ken...and others:

Great questions. I expected nothing less. I apologize for not answering sooner (or being on the forums at all) but I've been fighting a very nasty virus (on my second Z-pack).
When ordering a B-25 or N-25 handle (Model #25 handle...leather/stag/leather...with either brass or nickel silver & alumin hardware) there is "no upcharge" to replace the stag centerpiece with any "shop-supplied" handle material. For example: Maple instead of stag. If, on the other hand, you wish to use "CW" (customer-supplied material) the upcharge is $20.00. Rule of thumb would be: If the Randall knife comes standard with "stag" then any replacement of that stag with something else will fall under this rule. To the best of my knowledge there are no exceptions.
Please remember that this "only" means the center when referring to the #25 styled handle. You cannot substitute the "3-piece" configuration with a "one piece, full length, piece of handle material.

"Teardrop" shaped handles are available on Randall models with blade lengths 6" and "less". There is no upcharge for this fine handle shape. In my opion (and that's all it is) folks should be careful when ordering this handle option as it may not look or work great of all models. Just as a "for instance" I have seen it on a Model #11-3 1/4" and (for me) it made the handle too long for the blade length.

"Butt caps" on a "teardrop" are limited to brass or duralumin and "not" nickel silver. "Collars" are still doable with a teardrop. Hope this helps...and, again, sorry for the delayed response. (Now I'm gonna go take another handful of pills and feel sorry for myself)...
Best, Capt. Chris

Below are a couple of examples of teardrop handles done right! A matching pair of "Stanaback Specials" and a pair of "Pathfinders" that we built on the hunting forums...CCS
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/02/10 10:40 AM

Many thanks for the information answers to both questions.
Posted by: Tom_D

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/02/10 10:40 AM

Great information, Captain! But Ken, why would someone pay good money to have stag, the best of all handle materials, removed and then substitue a lesser material??? That's like ordering a new Harley and requesting a Honda engine. (No disrespect to Honda owners intended)
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/02/10 11:14 AM

Tom, you wrote:
Quote:
But Ken, why would someone pay good money to have stag, the best of all handle materials, removed and then substitue a lesser material???
My dad would completely agree with you. Of the half-dozen Randalls he currently owns, all of them have Stag handles.
Posted by: rbmcmjr

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/06/10 12:31 AM

Originally Posted By: lunde
Also, when specifying the #25 handle for knives other than the #25, such as the #26, #27, and the varieties of the #12-9" for which this is possible, how much is this option, and does it constitute one chargeable option?

<dipping my toes into the water>

I looked and looked through the rest of this thread and couldn't find a reply to this question. In a post dating back to June of '07, the answer was $55.00 for this option. However, it is not mentioned in the current price list, eagerly received by me a couple days ago.

This is rapidly becoming more than just an intellectual curiosity....

Rick - utter RMK noob
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/06/10 12:45 AM

There is no charge for the option of a #25 handle on a Model #27-5 3/4", "Trailblazer". For the Model #26-4", "Pathfinder" or the #12-9" the additional charges are $60.00. It does not matter if the metal is brass or nickel silver and alum. The charges are the same. Hope this helps...amd welcome to the forums!
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: The wrist thong on this "Pathfinder" would run an additional $15.00 but the rounded butt cap is "N/C"...CCS
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/06/10 12:46 AM

Rick,

My understanding is that the #25 Handle is currently a $60 option (it counts as one chargeable option) for the #26 and #12-9", and non-chargeable for the #27. For both, you, can specify Brass or Nickel Silver as the spacer metal.

(Edited to add that Chris answered the question at the same time, and that our answers seem to agree. My post was thus not necessary.)
Posted by: rbmcmjr

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/06/10 10:18 AM

Chris,

Thanks for the answer. Was I missing something in the flyer, or is this a "stealth" choice?


Ken,

Always good to hear from you. I may have some additional questions later. This particular obsession seems even more complicated than that other manufacturer we both patronize.

Rick
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/06/10 10:42 AM

Rick, you wrote:
Quote:
Always good to hear from you. I may have some additional questions later. This particular obsession seems even more complicated than that other manufacturer we both patronize.
Likewise, it is good to see you here.

Both brands are superb, and they indeed have their own ordering quirks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/06/10 12:30 PM

I guess you could classify it as a "stealth" choice. That's one way of putting it. To be sure, there are a great many things in the Randall lineup that aren't exactly in their mainstream media!! Glad to help. That's what this Randall ordering thread is all about.
Best, Capt. Chris

PS: Of course...when you put something "exotic" in the center the price can go from $60 extra to $120!!..."PLUS" the cost of the material!!! CCS
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/08/10 07:47 PM

Capt, If I order a Model 25 or a Model 26 with a Model 25 handle/grip, can I get a green micarta middle instead of stag? Thanks 29R
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/08/10 07:56 PM

Yes you can. I have some coming later on but nothing I can photograph right now. Green micarta along with black, ivorite and red & blue are available from the Randall shop. You can supply some "other" handle material if you wish, although it has to be cut to specs. I personally don't think there is enough handle center to show off the red & blue.
Next order...3 weeks or so, if you remind me, I have a #25-5" and a #25-6". The following order I have the #27-5 3/4" coming to match the other 2. Should be an interesting set-up. Hope this helps...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: kevin88

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/10 09:06 PM

Capt.,
Can you add a compass in the handle to an existing 7-5 knife?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/10 09:35 PM

As long as there is enough room and no butt cap, butt plate or wrist thong that might create a problem with the install...Yes: Price is $15.00.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/10 10:56 PM

Is this true even if I have a late model that already has 5 options?

Pap
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/10 11:45 PM

If you get in touch with the shop and speak to Valerie she can answer you as to your current knife, Pappy. If the knife is sent to shop it will be evaluated and a quote will be sent to you for your approval. If you do(did) this on a regular basis with brand new Randall knives with 5 options already installed...what do you think their answer is going to be? Randall has already had folks try this to "beat the system". On the other hand, on one occasion?? There will be a totally different way of looking at it. Every Randall sent in is handled individually...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/10 11:55 PM

Thanks, Cap, your answer was what I expected.

Pap
Posted by: kevin88

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/19/10 03:03 PM

Captain thanks for your answer and dedication
Posted by: Apollo11

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/24/10 02:38 PM

When ordering a Combat Companion, I am changing the handel material to Maroon Micarta with a single finger grip. Is this one change or two?

I see it as one because once the material is micarta, it has to be shaped some how...right?

ETA: It's two options per speaking with Capt Chris. Thanks!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/24/10 04:21 PM

A Combat Companion (or Model #1) can be ordered straight or commando-shaped with leather at no additional charge. Adding maroon micarta is "one" chargeable option. You can have it with a straight (traditional) handle or commando at no additional options charge, as it is available normally with either at no charge. Border Patrol, Single Finger Grip or RH/LH finger grips are all "chargeable" on a Combat companion. Good talkin' to you today. I just posted this for everyone else. Hope this helps somebody.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/13/10 11:13 PM

I have seen a couple of #4 -8" style fighting knives for sale online. Can you still order a knife like this from RMK Shop? If so what are the different options? Thanks,Jimmy.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/13/10 11:54 PM

Model #4 in a "7" inch blade or shorter is available. I have not seen any 8" models. They have not been made at the Randall shop for 3 decades or better. Every time I say "they never made it" I find I'm seriously wrong. They haven't made it in a very long time. The ones I have ordered for customers and the ones I have seen for sale are all 7".
At any rate: A Model #4-6" or 7" can be ordered with the top bevel sharpened, double hilt, and whatever else you can conjure up. Remember...5 options is the limit. "TB" and "double hilt" would be 2 of those 5. Hope this helps Jimmy. Keep your head down...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/14/10 09:19 AM

Thanks alot Captain.
Posted by: tunefink

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/14/10 04:43 PM

Jimmy,

The Model #4-8" fighters you have seen were probably the 4th edition of the Randall Knife Society Club knife.

http://www.randallknifesociety.com/pastclub.html
Posted by: LarryWW1246

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/14/10 08:35 PM

Capt. Chris--

I suspect that the "Model 4-8" that is being referred to is the RKS limited edition with the upswept blade.

Viewers will see them on eBay on occasion.

If I recall, the sheath for my RKS is marked "4 8."

Others might know if RMK ever made the standard Model 4 in an 8-inch blade. I have not gone back through older catalogues to see if they did offer it in an 8-inch blade, although I suspect you and others have seen Model 8 blade styles in pretty large RMK knives. I suspect that the one or two that I have seen were made long ago as one-off's or special request knives.

Larry
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/14/10 09:10 PM

Good point, Larry and "Tune". Sheath might say "4-8" but of course it's a far cry from a #4-8/ You're most probably correct...makes sense.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: LarryWW1246

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/15/10 08:36 AM

Apologies to tunefink for basically repeating what he posted about this.

for some reason when I opened this thread the last entry that appeared was the Captain's. I replied to his post, then later I came back online and saw the post by tunefink.

Larry
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/17/10 07:31 PM

Hey gang, I have really been eyeing the maroon micarta and wanting to order a 14 with it but the catalog says I cannot do it. Is there a reason for this? Is the material not strong enough to withstand the milling for the channel?

Could I buy the material (If I could find some) and send it to them in the date of production?

Also are green and black micarta the canvas types?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/17/10 09:01 PM

Any of the micartas, G-3 or G-10 phenolics are "plenty" strong enough. The reason for the Randall shop to only offer green or black micarta is that the material has to be sent out to an outside source (sub-contractor) to be sized and, in particularly, "slotted".
You can supply your maroon micarta to the shop, but it has to be already cut and slotted to their exact specs. I have several pieces at the shop at this writing to be done. Jim Behring (Treeman Knives) has some sort of brown canvas and green tenite micartas for sale on his website. They are already prepped for Randalls...ready to go! Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/17/10 09:17 PM

Thanks for the info and pics capt!
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/19/10 04:26 PM

Can I specify a no hone sheath? Does this cost extra?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/19/10 04:34 PM

No hone sheath option (NHS) needs to be specified...and it "is" an option..."BUT"...(There's that word again)...it is not a "chargeable" option and does not impede the 5 options available on the Randall knife itself.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/19/10 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
No hone sheath option (NHS) needs to be specified...and it "is" an option..."BUT"...(There's that word again)...it is not a "chargeable" option and does not impede the 5 options available on the Randall knife itself.
Best, Capt. Chris


Thanks Captain Chris.
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/19/10 07:16 PM

Capt. I have a few questions.

Can I order a 5-6 with Nickel silver, Border patrol Green Micarta, Stainless steel, and wrist thong through you with a shortened wait time?

What would the wait be?
Do I pay up front or put a deposit down?

Thanks! -Ben.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/19/10 07:48 PM

Call me or email me, Ben. I don't take orders over the forum...never have. My email address is at the bottom of this post. Thanks.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/22/10 11:00 AM

Can you get a old style model 8 with a stanard hilt instead of a reduced hilt? And is green micarta a option on this model?29r
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/22/10 10:45 PM

Jerry,
Yes...on "all counts".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Keith_Hicks

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/23/10 07:14 AM

Capt,

Is the following doable:

Seargant's Model
Black micarta
Border Patrol
Flat top hilt
Brass/black spacers
Brass butt cap
Carbon blade
Thumb notches
High Ride Sheath (through Sullivan's)
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/23/10 07:51 AM

As long as you order the sheath through Sullivans I see no problem with this order. You are using "4" chargeable options.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Tanasie

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/24/10 12:51 AM

Captain,

Is the slab side (Cattleman Style) stag handles still available as an option on other RMK models ? Also does your 'Stanaback Special' still come with this option ?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/24/10 09:11 AM

Slab sides are only available on a "Cattleman" and both blade lengths of my "Stanaback Special".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: WildBill

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/24/10 09:27 AM

Capt,

Do you have a pic of a Stanaback Special with slab sides, that sounds pretty interesting.

Bill
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/24/10 09:52 AM

Quickly...This is what I can come up with. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/24/10 08:52 PM

Can I call the shop and buy a sheath without send in my knife? Will they just not have the Randall logo on the snaps?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/24/10 09:34 PM

The shop will sell "no" sheaths without having the Randall to put in it. They have "no" sheaths without the "Randall" marked snaps. All replacement sheaths are stamped "R" to denote that the sheath was not the original sheath that was supplied by RMK when the package was new...No exceptions.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/24/10 10:33 PM

So I must send my knife in to get any sheath? I heard somehow you could get one with plain snaps without sending in your knife.

Plus I know they dont fit the strap because with my 14 needed to get stretched quite a bit and its still not long enough.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/24/10 11:44 PM


Ahh...yes we do fit the sheaths to the knife...would you rather the keeper straps be loose or tight? They are stretched as much as we can to ensure that they remain a good fit throughout the life of the sheath, so they may be a little too tight to begin with, but use a mus-cle and everything will come together...

...and yes you must send the knife to receive a sheath from RMK

...we only use the logo snaps on all current RMK's

---DW---
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/25/10 09:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Dirty_Water

Ahh...yes we do fit the sheaths to the knife...would you rather the keeper straps be loose or tight? They are stretched as much as we can to ensure that they remain a good fit throughout the life of the sheath, so they may be a little too tight to begin with, but use a mus-cle and everything will come together...

...and yes you must send the knife to receive a sheath from RMK

...we only use the logo snaps on all current RMK's

Thanks for the info. What is the price on a 16 SF model c sheath. How long a turn around time?

---DW---


Thanks for the info. What is the price on a 16 SF model c sheath. How long a turn around time?
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/25/10 07:06 PM

You will have to call the shop on Jan 3rd, when we re-open. I am not real sure on all the 2011 prices...sorry. maybe Cap can help here.

---DW---
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/25/10 09:00 PM

Standard replacement Model #16-7', Spl. #1 sheath is $65.00...in "tan". Add an additional $10.00 for "waxed"...$75.00 plus s,h & ins. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/25/10 10:30 PM

Thanks Capt.
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/10 05:44 PM

Capt, can I order a knife through Randall with a riveted sheath? If so is this a extra cost option?

Will the blade rub the rivets when sheathed? Thanks!

oh did you get my 5-6 order in? Just curious smile
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/10 06:10 PM

Riveted sheaths have not been available from the Randall shop for 40 years (or so)...(Call it 35)...Sullivan's is the source for those.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/10 06:32 PM

What is the wait time with Sullivans?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/10 06:35 PM

You'll have to check with them...Some sheaths, like Greg's new "hi-ride" is only 10-12 weeks, because he has the clicker dies. Others, more labor-intensive, are a year or better.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/10/11 10:32 PM

Hello everybody, I am thinking about purchasing a
#18 w/carbon steel blade. I want to know if the handle is stainless steel on tool steel blades. Thanks for help in advance. Jimmy
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/10/11 11:15 PM

Originally Posted By: HALORANGER
Hello everybody, I am thinking about purchasing a
#18 w/carbon steel blade. I want to know if the handle is stainless steel on tool steel blades. Thanks for help in advance. Jimmy


Yes the handle is stainless. I highly recommend a stainless blade on this knife due to the saw teeth.
Posted by: Stephen

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/25/11 03:56 PM

So her is my ordering question:
Let's say someone wanted a (matching) set (like 8) of the Model 6 Steak Knves to go along with the All Purpose Carving Set - any way to get something like that at one time so that the set is as close to matching in looks as possible? And exactly how would one accomplish same? Thanks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/25/11 04:14 PM

The chances of all 8 pieces looking the same is not as good if you order stag handles for example. Just the nature of stag has too many different possibilities from one piece to another. To eliminate this problem, buy your own stag. That way you can match up all 8 pieces, right in front of your own eyes, at one time. You can also feel the size and curvature for fit in your hand.
OK: Now if you order micarta your #6 steak knives will have an excellent chance of matching quite well! Understand that, if ordered directly from the Randall shop, this order will take 2 years to complete. The shop limits knife orders to 4 per year, per household. It is one of the hardest items to find completed. I have only taken orders for a handful in 30 years of messin' with Randall knives!
I don't know if any of this answer was what you were looking for, but it's a close as I can get. Hope it helps somewhat.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Stephen

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/30/11 08:35 PM

Thanks for the answer and information.
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/01/11 05:03 PM

Capt...or anybody
The Randall handle size chart(I know...I'm a poet)
states that "materials not available on Model #10 blah, blah...till it gets to "or light color micarta"...
My question is this...what abour yellow micarta material. I would think that would be considered to be "light" in color
Thanks
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/01/11 06:03 PM

Light...in the past...has referred to ivory-colored materials. I think there was a problem in the past with the very light materials exposing the tang. Also: Some of the old white crap (we actually used to list it by this name) was poor quality. If you are speaking of AGM...and if it is the "exact" same AGM it is probably a "go", "BUT" (I know...I know) the laminated AGM micarta that is similar and not the same? I think not. Hope this helps. The shop will not install bright yellow for the same reasons as have been explained here.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/02/11 08:00 AM

Capt,
Thanks
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/15/11 08:25 PM

This notice is for all Randall knife freaks on this forum.
I was at the Randall shop today, picking up my order. I was in Gary Randall's office showing him a miniature axe made by an old former employess, Will Pass. Afterwards Gary asked me to let everyone on the forums know that the long delay in scheduled shipping date is coming down! This is great news. In the past couple of years the Randall shop has cut the delay from "over 3 months" down to "7 weeks"!!
If you have knives orderd from the shop or a dealer the delivery time is closing in towards the actual scheduled date. The actual delivery time, i.e. the time from when you order until delivery is still 58-59 months (Jan., 2016 right now)...but at least they are getting close to delivering on the dates promised!
Thanks to Scott, Jason, Jed and the whole crew of makers for steppin' up. It's much appreciated!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: TonyLaPetri

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/16/11 09:12 AM

Great news Cap. Thanks for the up-date!!
Tony
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/16/11 09:58 PM

Capt, If I order a Model 26 Pathfinder with these options do I have four or five chargables?
Stainless Blade.
Wrist Thong.
25B Handle and Round Off the Buttcap.
Replace the center handle stag with Green Micarta.
Also on the 25B handles will the shop use Red in the Spacers instead on Black? If so is it a chargable?
Thanks 29R
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/16/11 10:28 PM

5 options but only "3" chargeable, i.e.
* Stainless
* Wrist thong
* B-25 handle

Green micarta is an option over the stag center but not chargeable. Rounded butt caps...same scenario. B-25 (Brass) or N-25 (Nickel silver & aluminum) are "only" available with black fiber spacers between the metal ones. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/16/11 10:35 PM

Capt
By the way what is the option cost for the 25B handle on the Pathfinder? 29R
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/17/11 01:08 AM

Brass or nickel silver...either one...$65.00.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pigman08

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/17/11 09:34 AM

Capt Chris,

On the Model 27 handle, are red spacers the only configutation available, or can they be substituted for black spacers... I'm guessing that red is the only color available, but I wanted to ask to be sure.

Thanks,
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/17/11 11:15 AM

With regard to the "13 spacer" configuration, there are no substitutions. You can order a #25 styled handle, which comes with brass & black or alum. & black.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Eagle1899

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/18/11 08:01 PM

Is the #16-7 SP#1 avalible with Forward Curved Double Hilt in Nickle Silver? Does the shop have any other handle colors for this knive other than Black or Green?

Thank you!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/18/11 10:03 PM

No colors other than Green or Black. Forward curved double hilt is doable.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: This was my supplied antique gold micarta, but you can see the FCH...CCS (No...It's not for sale)
Posted by: vern21

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/18/11 10:44 PM

Capt. Chris

Forgive me if I'm hijacking the thread, but I see your sheath has one logo stamp and one plain? Thanks.

vern
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/18/11 11:03 PM

It's a "heavier" keeper snap. Greg made this custom sheath for me. It also has a totally different hone pocket, made for the "Mini Leatherman" tool...and it's waxed...and it's riveted, in other words: Not from the Randall shop.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: vern21

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/18/11 11:20 PM

Very cool! Thanks!

vern
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/19/11 12:37 AM

Capt, Is it possible to special order one of these sheaths from Greg?

Jimmy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/19/11 08:22 AM

Jimmy,
You'd have to call Greg about that. I had these done some time ago...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Eagle1899

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/19/11 03:39 PM

Chris,

Thank you for the info, Order for my wife has been placed.

Trever
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/19/11 04:39 PM

I'll have to make sure I get a commision from Greg!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/20/11 12:16 PM

Capt. Chris,
Is it possible to order the carving set with the same type handle and spacer setup as the chef's knife?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/20/11 03:37 PM

I have ordered them with all red spacers before. I have also had a set or two made with black micarta handles. I don't know about the brass reduced hilts but I feel confident it's doable. You will not be able to duplicate the handle "shape" of the chef's knife or the thickness of the brass hilt as those are unique to the Chef's knife.
I have ordered (for my order coming out just before the "Blade" show) a Chef's knife and a "Large Filet" knife made up for RKS folks to see at the RKS meeting. The #6-9", Large Filet has a brass single hilt and a black micarta "Border Patrol" handle, along with all red spacers. That's about as close as I could match them up...Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/20/11 11:10 PM

That helps alot Capt. I hope to be at the blade show this year. Thanks, Jimmy.
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/21/11 09:22 AM

Sullivans told me they weren't doing any more custom orders due to Greg's health.
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/21/11 11:05 AM

Capt, Is it possible to order a 5 inch gambler with any type of hilt other than a "reduced" one? Also is a thong hole available? Thanks,
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/21/11 03:13 PM

Not only possible but I have done it. Before the 5 option limit I did it even more. I orderd one for myself with a nickel silver single hilt, stainless, thumb notches, aluminum & black spacers, stag handle, nickel silver butt plate, wrist thong and a black sheath. When I received it I thought it was the ugliest thing I had ever dreamt up. Sold it the following weekend at a gun & knife show!
I will tell you that it would have been an excellent "gutter" with that blade design...but so is a "Small Gambler" with the reduced hilt. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 7890

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/21/11 03:18 PM

i have two gamblers in snakewood
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/21/11 09:34 PM

Capt, Thanks again for the great answers! A couple of more Please.

Can a #1 7 inch stainless still be ordered with sawteeth?

Is there any other spacers than red, white and blue that are not billable options on a #1 7 inch with ivory handle. (I am hoping that all black spacers are not an option.)
Thanks for your expertise,
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/21/11 10:29 PM

Sawteeth are still available. All black spacers is doable at no additional charge. You can also order brass & black, brass & red, aluminum & black or aluminum & red spacers but it is a chargaeable option.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/25/11 11:22 PM

Why doesn't the Randall web site have the options listed along with their current prices?

Pap
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/25/11 11:38 PM

This question is better asked to the shop...unless Scott can help?
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/11 02:51 PM

What options are available for a #10-3. I'm just assuming handle material (including customer supplied) and waxed/black sheath? thx.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/11 03:28 PM

handle choices from the Randall shop are:
Black micarta
Rosewood
Red micarta

Handle choices from the customer are all over the place...but not "wide open". For instance, no ivory, stag, FWI or musk ox. No water or Cape buf. There are other restrictions.

Sheaths can be tan, waxed or black.

Blade shape is
A) Drop point (Now standard)
B) Straight point (Must be specified)
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris

PS: I just shot these quick shots. Both are shop made with some of my supplied AGM (When I could find AGM)...CCS

A) Drop point


B) Straight point
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/11 05:24 PM

Cool....thanks Capt. Didn't realize we had a choice in blade.
Posted by: Rob_Kelly

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/01/11 01:54 AM

Yer Old
Posted by: Duke

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/07/11 12:03 PM

Question to any and all: am expecting a triathlete or two in the near future and may add some type of handle scales to one or both (or neither). I would appreciate any recommendations as to where to look re: this and, of course, quality work.
If this question is in the wrong post please feel free to move to appropriate thread. Thanks.
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/07/11 12:12 PM

Hi Duke

I believe that Capt. Chris has at least some of his done by Gene Beal, Gene Beal 4007 Rolling Oak Drive Lakeland, FL 33810 (863) 660-8383 gbtherep@aol.com. He made some ironwood 1911 grips for me, so I can vouch for his work.
I don't know for certain, but I think Treeman Knives could do it also.
I want to do some myself when my Tri comes in, in ironwood.

Peter
Posted by: Doug74

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/07/11 12:19 PM

Duke--

I have a triathlete with mammoth tooth scales....via Gene Beal. I'm very impressed with his work and would certainly recommend him.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/07/11 04:03 PM

What Doug said...DITTO!!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Duke

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/07/11 06:42 PM

Thanks guys. I appreciate any and all recommendations.
Posted by: Inkosi

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/07/11 07:23 PM

12-6 Sportsman's Bowie

Stainless

Thumb notches

NS single hilt, squared top

Red Micarta

Crow's Beak alloy buttcap, drilled for lanyard

#15 clip: I like the 'no choil' of the 6" (I have a Fireman) and want to keep that, but I'd prefer the 15 clip (or even a 16 shape).

Can it be done?

Or, barring that, a 5" stainless Gambler with NS hilt, red micarta, alloy crow's beak handle?

Thanks,

Bob
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/07/11 07:31 PM

No to the first knife...Yes to the second. Of course...Neither with red micarta as the shop has none. You would have to supply it.
Red and blue is available or maroon.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Inkosi

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/07/11 10:06 PM

Was it the 15 clip that did it in?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/08/11 12:14 AM

That,,,along with "6" options. You're only allowed "5".
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/08/11 06:47 PM

Captain--

Is the leather handled bird & trout still available....I don't see it listed in the current "non-catalog" brochure. Thx.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/08/11 07:46 PM

Leather handles on the trout and bird "and" the model #21...yes, although I never understood why folks would give up a $50 piece of stag (No charge on those 2 models).
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/09/11 12:54 PM

Capt, I ordered a Smith Bowie with Ivory some five years ago while visiting the shop. It is now time for specs and my supplying the ivory to the shop (How time goes by quickly!)

Anyway I have seen very large Ivory handles on bowies, I know that there are standard specs for an ivory handle can you tell me what they are?, also are there any rules as to making the handle larger than the standard shape or the commando shapes? Thanks for any information anyone can provide.
Posted by: Wally

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/09/11 10:08 PM

I can't speak as far as the deminsions go on Ivory for your Smith, but I will (in the Capt's absense,) tell you the Gene Beal should be at the BLADE show in June, and he can supply the Ivory you need, cut to the specifications RMK requires. If you won't be at BLADE, I bet the good Capt. can still help you...
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/10/11 07:20 PM

Just got back from Bama. The size required for a "Smitty" is:

1 1/2" x 1 3/4" x 5".

This will accomodate a commando or finger grip handle with no problem. Price will probably run around $550. Gene Beal or myself can help you if you have not already found a source. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/10/11 09:10 PM

Capt, thanks for the quick reply, can you tell me what handle shapes are avalable in ivory for a smith? Are they all the same cost? Thanks..
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/10/11 09:17 PM

Cost for handle shapes is the same on ivory as with other cw's.
* Standard (straight, if you will)
* Commando (No additonal charge)
* Concaved (No additional charge)
* Finger grips (LH or RH / chargeable)
* Border patrol / chargeable)
* #22 (Chargeable, unless ordered with a crow's beak butt cap)
* Model #14 (under style finger grips / chargeable)
* Single finger grip (chargeable)
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/14/11 12:08 AM

Does anyone know what RMK charges for a rosewood handle? Also if I order a Model 26 with a 25 handle can I get rosewood instead of Stag and what would the cost be for it?
29R
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/14/11 12:34 AM

Rosewood handle catalog price (installed) is: $40.00. A Model #25 handle on a Model #26 is an upgrade charge of $65.00. It does not matter if the hardware is brass (B-25) or nickel silver and aluminum (N-25). The cost is the same for either one. Rosewood can be substituted for stag...No additional (or very minimal) charge above the $65. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/14/11 09:00 AM

Cap, you wrote:
Quote:
Concaved (chargeable)
When you have a chance, can you reconfirm that this handle shape is a chargeable option? It is shown on page 26 of the catalog, and states that it can be specified for Models 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 11, 12, 13, 14 CDT, 15 CDT, 19, 20, 23, and 26, but a price is not provided in the "Page 26" section of the price list.

Thanks...
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/14/11 09:31 AM

Ken,
Correct. I meant to write non-chargeable. While there were models in the past in which a concaved handle was either unavailable or chargeable (Stanaback Special for one) the Model #12's were never one of those exceptions. To clarify I have edited the post to read "no additional charge". Thanks.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Concaved & commando are now available of my special at "N/C" also...CCS
Posted by: lunde

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/14/11 10:10 AM

Many thanks for the clarification (and correction).
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/22/11 03:21 PM

Can I get a thin and rounded butt cap,Alum or Brass, on a 26, 5-4 or a GTR? If so can a wrist thong be add to the butt cap?
Thanks 29R
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/22/11 05:37 PM

Yes you can Jerry. It's helpful to order the thin & rounded butt cap, especially in brass, as it keeps the weight down and balances far better on the smaller knives.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Jerry...Email me. Thanks...CCS
Posted by: 2ninersavo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/22/11 05:47 PM

Capt,
Thanks. And I can add a wrist thong to a thin butt cap? 29R
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/22/11 07:12 PM

Yes you can...as a matter of fact, I think butt caps on #26's are usually slightly thinner.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: mw999

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/30/11 11:52 AM

I am ordering model 5, with 5" blade probably, NS, single hilt, border patrol handle, thumb notches, wrist thong. I need lots of input.
I know the SS vs tool steel is widely discussed but my question is specific to model five.
the knife will mostly sit on my desk and not be used in the field.
will a good wax coating do a good job of protecting the steel?
approx. what percent of RMK are currently produced in SS vs. O1?
thoughts on 5 vs 6"?
does RMK have micarta other than the black and brownish green?
first knife order and I want LOTS of feedback.
also how many options does this count as?
MW
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/30/11 12:32 PM

For a desk knife, you shouldn't have a problem with the tool steel, and that wouldn't use up an option. Keep it clean and dry and use wax or a Sentry Tuf-cloth and you will be ok.
There is maroon micarta, blue/red micarta from the shop and you could provide another color if desired.
Here is my #5 5 inch with brass and green
Peter
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/30/11 01:08 PM

Just to add (or ammend) what Peter wrote. You can also have white (Ivorite) from the shop...and the green Peter shows has been unavailable for a couple of years now. It was green "canvas". All the green available from the shop nowadays is green "linen".
Model #5-5" would be my choice. The 6 incher gets a bit long for me. Other folks feel the opposite, but for "your application" I think 5 inch is a good recommendation. Thumb notches are standard. Micarta and PBH will use up "2" options. The other "3" will be up to you and your needs. It would be a fine knife with just those "2"!
Good luck with it, Capt. Chris

PS: Here's the green linen as an example...CCS
Posted by: mw999

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/30/11 04:00 PM

Gentlemen, thank you for your quick response.
forgot this issue.
1. I am thinking about ordering a sheath w/o the sharpening stone. thoughts? desirability? I will probably get the brown standard sheath.
2. Captain, is that photo of a model 5? Peter, very nice pic of your knife. I have seen it online, very sharp.
3. As I understand, the Model 5 is close to the APF...
4. And the combat commander is close to the Model 5 w/ sharpened top edge?
5. If I order the BP handle it will have exposed tang?
6. Thoughts on Combat Companion compared to Model 5?
again thanks for your help.
other readers please join in.
MW
Posted by: Rick Magee

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/30/11 05:29 PM

Welcome to the forum!

If you haven't already done so, check out this thread:

Knife of the Week Model 5

It's 28 pages long with lots of photos and info.

As for your questions:

1- If the knife is going to just sit on your desk, then get whichever sheath you think looks best. Randall recommends that you don't store the knife in the sheath. If you plan to anyway, you might want to consider getting stainless steel.

2- If I were the Captain, I would say, "No, it's not a Model 5. It's a Model 28." Although he would probably say it with more personality!

3- Yes, it's close. The Model 1 All Purpose Fighting Knife was the basis for the Model 5 Camp and Trail. I think of the Model 5 as the All Purpose Knife. The top of the blade in front of the hilt is straight (unlike the Model 1) which makes it suitable for thumb notches, which is a feature that I like. Thumb notches are standard on the Model 5. And the Model 1 has a sharpened top edge.

4- The grind on the Combat Companion is very different from the Model 5. At least, it is to the practiced eye. Check out this thread:

Knife of the Week Combat Companion

5- No. Not any handle on a Model 5 will have an exposed tang.

6- For a desk knife, one's as good as the other. Get whichever one looks best to you. For a field knife I prefer the Model 5.

One thing you should consider is the style of hilt to order. The Model 5 is available with a rounded hilt or a squared one. Again, it's just a matter of which one looks best to you. Some people don't like the pointy edges of the square hilt when handling the knife.

Also, consider getting aluminum spacers with the NS hilt. They count as an extra option but they look really nice.

Deciding on which model and options to get is part of the fun of collecting Randall knives. Enjoy the process!

Rick
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/30/11 06:13 PM

The knife in my photo is a Model #28-4 1/2", "Woodsman". It was the quickest one I could find to show you the green linen (verses canvas) with a BPH. Rick M. is correct. If it has the full (exposed) tang, it ain't a Model #5.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: mw999

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/01/11 01:11 PM

Folks, Could someone post a picture of the "A" sheath that will come with model 5-5? Typing my order today.
MW
Posted by: mw999

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/01/11 01:14 PM

Disregard, just found photo of correct sheath.
Posted by: rodbrown

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/01/11 02:13 PM

Here is a page from the RMK website with the different sheaths.

http://www.randallknives.com/catalog.php?action=viewcategory&catalogcategories_id=8
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/02/11 09:47 AM

Here's a Model 5-5" with sheath

Hope this helps.
Posted by: Gamble

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/14/11 06:24 AM

Can a guardian be ordered with a:
commando handle?
straight handle?
brass hilt?
ns or brass collar?
coolie on the concave handle?
thanks Cap.
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/14/11 01:41 PM

Besides Micarta handle in maroon, ivorite, green, or black, name etching is the only other extra feature available.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the handle shape and the nickel-silver hilt are the only other features permissible on the Model 24 "Guardian".
Posted by: Jim459

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/14/11 04:05 PM

You can have (or had) the option of CW handle material such as this one in fossil walrus ivory.

- Jim
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/14/11 04:23 PM

With a beauty such as yours, I hope they still will accept "CW" such as ivory.

I think we both answered his inquiry as to handle shape and "add-ons" (collar,buttcap, etc.) to handle.

In my previous post, I was just quoting from the Randall catalog on page 7. I wonder then, if "CW" is allowed, about the spacers.

Maybe the Cap'n will poke his head in this thread when the Show is over, today.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/14/11 07:05 PM

Aluminum & red (or aluminum & black) and a smooth nickel silver collar is also a "go". CW of any type that is the "correct size"...No exceptions on the size!...Proper SIZE!!!
Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: No butt caps of any type are allowed...CCS
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/15/11 07:24 PM

I or my dealer may be mistaken however I have on order a gambler with leather handle, aluminum but cap. I didn't see this version mentioned.
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/15/11 08:10 PM

Griff

I know butt caps are allowed on Gamblers, apparently they are not allowed on the Guardians(model 24)

I am pretty sure that your Gambler is fine the way you have it configured

Peter
Posted by: Gamble

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/15/11 08:20 PM

Thanks for the help all, that's one less question for Valerie. Its too bad about the limited options on the guardian. I did see one recently with a thong hole but don't know the vintage. I was wanting one with Brass reduced hilt and smooth brass collar, green micarta commando handle, brass name plate and domed brass butt. It may have been overkill anyway..
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/15/11 08:30 PM

What is the difference between a rounded butt cap and a radiused butt cap? I have seen some butt caps that have the edge rounded slightly and other caps that are really rounded off alot. What do I need to tell the shop on my order to get each style?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/15/11 08:39 PM

"Really" rounded are probably "domed" butt caps. They are usually found when a butt cap is added to a "concaved" handle.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/15/11 11:14 PM

What would be the best way to word my order so that I get the smallest possible radius on the Brass Butt Cap of a Bear Bowie I will be ordering next? I don't want to completely get rid of the way it flairs out on the end of the commando handle, but just roll over (break) the edge a bit.
Posted by: Condor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/18/11 06:57 AM

Rob, I asked GTR this exact question a couple of months ago. His response? "Just order a rounded butt cap - that's pretty much what you'll get by default on that particular knife." Hope this helps.
Posted by: TonyLaPetri

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/18/11 09:05 AM

Hey Guys,
These Randalls ... a #25 and #26 have ROUNDED butt caps. I got these through the Captain about a year ago.
Tony
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/18/11 09:31 AM

Here are 2 identical "Commando" shaped handles. The duralumin butt cap is in the standard configuration while the brass is rounded.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/18/11 03:30 PM

I was using the word "radiused" from reading Lunde's FAQ site. I guess I was thinking "rounded" would be closer to the "domed" look I want to avoid for this knife. But, I had a notation on my wish list to have it look like the Stanaback Special, Ltd. II, or that #2-6 above on the Capt.'s website. They still retain the flair out from the commando handle shape somewhat. I see now they are referred to as "rounded" too.

So, I guess "rounded" and "radiused" are actually interchangeable terms at Randall giving the same result?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/18/11 06:55 PM

Either of the "R" words are acceptable and interchanged by me...and lots of others.
Best, Capt. Chris
SSP-4" (Not a Limited II) with a "rounded or radioused" brass butt bap. The only way you'll get a domed is with concaved handle...CCS
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/21/11 01:48 PM

On micarta handles I hear the term "teardrop", does any one have pictures showing teardrop and whatever a non teardrop handle is? Thanks OldGuy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/21/11 04:05 PM

Teardrop shaped handles are limited only a few models. Here's a maatching pair of my Stanaback Specials. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/21/11 05:15 PM

Capt
What models can you get a tear drop handle on?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/21/11 06:05 PM

Besides my specials, a Model #26-4" and a #8-4" "Old Style" are doable. You'd have to give me some time to come up with more. Valerie is out of the shop for a bit and they are hammered without her.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Rick_Bowles

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/21/11 08:05 PM

Here is my special with a teardrop handle shape, Ironwood and a brass butt cap.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/21/11 09:02 AM

To all RKS members,
I have been taking a great many Randall knife orders lately. Thanks to all for the orders. I have also had a good deal of confusion from some regarding "pricing". In particular: Pricing charged by the Randall shop, verses an Authorized Randall knife dealer. While I cannot address all of the Randall dealers, and their policy with regards to pricing, I can tell you this: All Authorized Randall knife dealers are invoiced for their particular orders by the date the order is scheduled out. In other words: If you order a knife from a Randall dealer and your scheduled delivery date is in 2012, the knife will be billed at 2012 prices.
If you wish to "lock in" this year's pricing (currently 2011) you need to contact the Randall shop and place your order through them. The only other alternative would be to find an authorized dealer who may have some order dates still available at the end of this year (2011). Other than that, your Randall knife will be subject to any price increase set forth from the Randall shop.
I hope this is clear...and, "NO"...I have no idea how much (if any) the 2012 (or any other year) price increases will be. Randall made knives' current waiting time is around 58 months. That's a long time, "but" (there's that word again) "when" your knife arrives it will absolutely be a bargain price, seeing as how your price was locked in to (almost) 5 years prior!!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/21/11 02:27 PM


What's the matter Cap, somebody giving you a hard time about pricing?? eek
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/21/11 03:40 PM

Always Mike...You're at the top of the list!!
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Not really...You're part way down the list...CCS
Posted by: Peter63

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/31/11 12:50 PM

I ´d like to order one of the new #4-6“ fighters (non catalogue III) next ; is it possible to specify a single hilt ?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/31/11 03:42 PM

ONLY" a straight, standard handle shape is doable on this model. The Randall shop is very specific in this regard. The only exception to this is the availability of using "stag" for handle material. By using stag you can get a "slightly" different feel/shape. Other than that, regardless of handle material from the shop, it will be fairly straight.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Here's one that is sold but featured on my website. (just for ordering)...CCS

Posted by: Peter63

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/01/11 04:19 AM

Many thanks Capt. for the information ! yes, stag looks very good on the 4-6" that´s what I want.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/28/11 11:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
I just posted this knife is the #22 thread, but thought someone might want to know about and see this handle material. It's red & blue laminated micarta and is Randall shop-supplied. It is available for small and medium size Randall knives. It is shown here with aluminum & red spacers, crow's beak butt cap, wrist thong, nickel silver single hilt, thumb notches, stainless blade and a black "no hone" pocket sheath.
Best, Capt. Chris


Is this material available on the Model 10s?

Thanks...
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/28/11 12:17 PM

Mike,
It is not, at least not from the Randall shop. All of the red/blue micarta they have is in block form to be used on standard "CDT" models. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/28/11 07:25 PM


Thank-You!!!!
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/02/11 09:10 PM

On knife models that have thumb notches as standard build, will the shop delete them if requested. Jerry
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/02/11 10:11 PM

Randall knives that come standard with thumb notches cannot be ordered without them. I am sorry for the mis-information I spewed out there. Nobody to blame but me. I received a Model #5 without thumb notches a few years ago. Apparently that knife was a glitch, not a "doable".
You can order a Model #1 with a single hilt and that will not have thumb notches....just sayin'...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/11 10:19 AM

Capt.
Does the Model 5 4" come from the shop with thumb notches as a standard build? oldguy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/11 10:30 AM

"ALL" Model #5's come standard with thumb notches, regardless of blade length.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/13/11 04:43 PM

Hey everyone:
Thanks to my friend across the pond for bringing this to my attention. Even though I had received one in the past, models with thumb notches as "standard" cannot be ordered without them. I altered my original post and am posting this also so as not to confuse anyone. Sorry for the mix-up and mis-information.
Best, capt. Chris
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/15/11 10:29 AM

Two questions

1) can you configure a Cattleman to look like a mini Chef's knife? ss, black micarta, red spacers and wrist thong brass single hilt

2) can you have any wood put on a model 10 as long as it is cut to size, perhaps ironwood?

Thanks Cap
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/15/11 11:13 AM

Peter,
Yes to both questions, "but" (There ya' go again) you will not get the exact same hilt and handle shape as the "Chef's" knife. Their shaping is quite model specific.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Epoch

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/15/11 02:21 PM

Also regarding the cattleman... I thought I had seen someplace where the shop won't work with G10 anymore. I haven't had much luck finding info on that in the search now that I want to know smile So my question is:

Will they use G10 that is submitted by the customer, or will they not use it at all?

Thanks, everyone.
Chad
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/15/11 02:33 PM

G-10 is still doable...Yours (or mine) only. The shop does not carry it. They also will not install compasses in it. It tears up belts, bits and blades...saw blades, that is. The charge for having G-10 (or G-3) installed is: $65.00. This is just one of the reasons my Challenger "Mission Memorial" knives saw such a large price increase this past year. Along with all of the other options (like $10 more for nickel silver butt caps), and a $20 price increase for basic Bowies, the total costs increased over $70 per knife. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/21/11 08:27 PM

Chris, If you have a knife on order with the shop and want to change the sheath style, I know that I would pay for different sheath but is there a change charge? Oldguy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/21/11 08:36 PM

I'll check. I was at the shop today and could have asked but I'll get the answer soon. Changes to the knife itself result in a $35 charge, I believe. Good question.
Thanks, Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/24/11 06:14 PM

Capt,
Is the #14 style double brass hilt doable on a #1 and does it count as one of the five options?
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/24/11 08:30 PM

Capt,
Can you get the #3 with the top bevel sharpened and does it count as a chargeable option?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/24/11 08:39 PM

Jerry:
Upcharge for a sheath...but "no" order change charge.

Jimmy:A) I have had thick hilts before on Model #1's.
B) TB (tp bevel sharpened) is a chargeable option. Cost is: $20.00
Hope this helps,
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tunefink

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/24/11 10:28 PM

Like this Jimmy?


Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/25/11 06:40 AM

Oh yea, that's it. Tune you have some great knives. Is that example early 60's? Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: tunefink

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/25/11 09:59 AM

It's late 60's to early 70's......thank you Jimmy.
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/30/11 06:11 PM

Capt.,
Can you get the #1 style fighter double hilt on a #12-9"?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/30/11 06:22 PM

Jimmy,
You already "have" a #1 style double hilt on a #12-9". Check your Challenger "Mission Memorial" knife. #14 grind or not...It's doable.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/30/11 07:22 PM

Thanks Capt. Now I have a good reason to open the old safe and enjoy the MMK.
Posted by: alan_grombacher

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/30/11 11:36 PM

Hey Jimmy and Captain,

The MMK has a #14 grind, eh?

My son uses my old #12 Sportsman (old grind, leather handle, and what Hunt calls the "fighter guard). It is a real nice knife and is my son's favorite bush knife.

Alan Grombacher
RKS#5531
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/31/11 06:49 AM

Alan, Thats what I am thinking about ordering. I want the 12-9" Sportsman with brass fighter guard, red white blue spacers, leather commando handle, aluminum butt (rounded), wrist thong, and top bevel sharpened. This will be used for chors around the camp site.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/31/11 08:16 AM

Top bevel sharpened is an automatic on any Model #12. Good all-around choice for "user" Jimmy.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: alan_grombacher

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/31/11 07:21 PM

Jimmy,

You just about described my son's knife, except his has the regular aluminum butt cap and no wrist thong. It is a real nice knife like the Captain says. Get one, you'll like it.

Cheers,

Alan Grombacher
RKS #5531
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/24/11 01:36 PM

Other than customer supplied, are black & green micarta the only handle options available for a #16 diver's knife.....what about the blue/red micarta Randall offers?

Thanks.
Posted by: alan_grombacher

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/24/11 07:10 PM

Just curious here: Could you order a Navy/Marine aircraft survival knife version of the #5?

Cheers,

Alan Grombacher
RKS#5531
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/24/11 07:38 PM

no, no saw teeth on a 5 inch and it would add too many options
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/24/11 10:02 PM

Answers:

Model #16's: No red / blue micarta as it is not "slotted". Green or Black micarta, unless customer-supplied handle material (already slotted and "EXACT" in size) is furnished.

Aircrewman knife. No: It cannot be ordered as it is pictured, i.e. old style Model #5 blade with "teeth". You "can" order sawteeth on a Model #5..."BUT"...(There's that word again)...6,7 or 8" blades only. Any 5" Model #5 ordered with sawteeth will receive a "Combat Companion" blade grind.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/24/11 10:12 PM

Thank you Captain.
Posted by: alan_grombacher

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/25/11 12:25 AM

Hey Captain and Ben,

Thanks for the input.

Cheers,

Alan
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/12/11 09:16 AM

I was wondering if you can get the standard style handle on a full tang type knife? Specifically the new Combat Companion. I have never seen one.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/12/11 12:14 PM

Jimmy,
No you cannot. I have received black micarta handles in the past that had no finger grips, just a slight flared in front and back but straight in the center where the fg's would normally be cut out. That option is no more.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/12/11 03:13 PM

Capt,
Thats what I figured. I am going to try and find a #14 with finger grooves and reshape the handle to a standard type.
Posted by: giacomo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/11 06:45 AM

Hello Captain,
I need to choose the 5 options for a diver Combat Companion, my question is:
ordering a brass double hilt with two flared holes (#18 style) count for one option, or is like ordering a #14 style double hilt(the hilt of the standard full tang model with finger grips) and the two holes drilled for a total of two options?
These would be my five options:
1 - Stainless Steel.
2 - Sawteeth.
3 - #18 Style Brass Double Hilt With Flared Holes.
4 - #14 Finger Grips Handle Shape.
5 - Orange G10 Handle Material.
And of course a model C waxed sheath.

Thank you for the very interesting topic.
Giacomo.
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/11 08:51 AM

Capt,
I'm wondering if a #7 with a #6 grind could be ordered with squared single hilt and thumb notches.
Can you help?
Thanks so much for all you do here on this thread!!
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/17/11 09:55 AM

I'm back for 3 days and trying to get caught up. Please be patient if you have questions and I'll get to them...I promise!

The Combat Companion above is doable, just as described. It will be a CDT version as the newer "FT" (full tang) does not allow for CW (orange G-10) or any other handle shape, except border patrol.

Model #7's (#6) can be orderd with a squared top hilt (no additional charge) and thumb notches (chargeable option).

Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/18/11 09:12 PM

Thanks Capt!!
:-)Rocky
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/12 02:22 PM

Capt, On a order for a 26 or a 5-4 can't you substitue micarta for the stag and it is a no charge? Thanks. oldguy
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/12 04:10 PM

I would hope so. I also feel that wrist thongs should be standard on every knife
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/12 04:29 PM

It is swapable (?) but I'm not sure about an even swap. I think it is...if it is Randall shop-supplied stuff.
As far a wrist thongs go. Some like 'em and some hate em'..."BUT"...(I know...I know) it is a bit of work to drill, install the tubing ferrule and trim/polish etc. I think a charge is not out of line.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/12 05:14 PM

I can understand if it is fruled but it seems much easier with the basic handles with aluminum butts
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/12 05:21 PM

Of course I'm talking about the shop supplied micarta. Can you find out and let us know? oldguy
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/12 05:25 PM

There is more work involved with the lanyards due to the aligning and drilling the holes. The process is harder than it looks. I'm sure the shop could make lanyards standard on the knives for a $20 price increase. oldguy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/12 05:50 PM

Yes: Shop supplied micarta is the asame price as stag on a #5-4...#8-4...etc.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/12 10:09 PM

Originally Posted By: oldguy
There is more work involved with the lanyards due to the aligning and drilling the holes. The process is harder than it looks. I'm sure the shop could make lanyards standard on the knives for a $20 price increase. oldguy


I'm good with that
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/12 10:27 PM

Leatherman, for me I like the wrist thongs when I need it, but when I don't need one they are in the way. Maybe one day someone will come up with a retractable lanyard that stores in the handle.
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/12 10:57 PM

Maybe a quick detach wrist thong, like a QD sling swivel attachment for rifles???
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/12 09:16 AM

We had 97 buttcaps last week out of 162 knife bladelist, of those, there were 21 requested WTs...and 14 w/o buttcaps, so adding a mandatory WT to every knife with a buttcap would add considerable time that could be used in the final polishing stage.

And the last thing RMK wants to do is raise the price on an option that is only requested on 20% of the weekly orders.

---DW---
Posted by: JerryG

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/12 11:00 AM

Makes perfect sense. Thanks for the explanation.

I have to agree with oldguy. They're great when you need them, but most of mine are wrapped up 90% of the time.
Posted by: Sidney_Redford

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/12 03:09 PM

The wrist thong just does not look good on some of the knives. I would hate to see it added to all of them. That is why they have options.
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/12 03:43 PM

This method of using the lanyard is extremely fast to apply to the hand and very secure. I use it everytime I use or hold the knife. If I am going to do extended chopping I will open the knots and put my wrist through because the 550 cord can dig into your hand after a few minutes.The first pic shows how you can hold the rear of the handle (as you can with the wrist through the knots method) and makes this 5 inch knife perform like a longer one and with more heft in front.


Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/12 04:26 PM

This is all very interesting everyone..."BUT"...(There's that word again) we have drifted into a discussion that has nothing to do with "ordering" or any other shop-related questions or problems. Please: Stay on topic in this thread as many use it as a reference.
I would welcome a new topic on different usages of a wrist thong as well as other options. Thanks, in advance for your understanding.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/12 05:09 PM

sorry for going off topic there captain.

can I order a thick model c waxed sheath for a 1-6?
I remember seeing a thick sheath years ago on ebay
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/12 05:14 PM

Yes you can Ben. Here's a recent example (although not waxed) of my first "Capt. Chris' Camper" in bone linen with a Model "C" sheath...and this one's optioned with "NHS" (No Hone Pocket Sheath)!!
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: shadowfax

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/12 11:32 PM

Is it possible to order a flanged butt cap or a flanged and scalloped butt cap on a commando shaped leather handle? If so, is there an exposed nut on the butt cap? I do not think that I have ever seen a picture of that combination.

Also, would a brass flanged butt cap heavier or lighter than a standard brass butt cap on a commando shaped? I am thinking about how it would balance a model 14 CDT or on a model 12.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/15/12 05:16 PM

Either is doable in leather...and a good question as you certainly don't see many.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: shadowfax

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/16/12 01:57 AM

Captain, Thanks, I'll be sure and post pictures when I get mine then. grin
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/25/12 08:10 PM

Is crown stag available from the shop? oldguy
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/25/12 10:42 PM

No sir, customers material...

---DW---
Posted by: Duke

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/27/12 02:01 PM

I'm wondering if either/both of the following are possible:
#15
SS blade, bowie clip grind
Handle of brown G-10(Jim Behring supplied); preferably RHFG, or if not, then BPH
NSFCH
all red spacers
AND
#4-7"
#22 handle with BCB, black micarta
FCDH-brass
brass and red spacers
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/27/12 05:28 PM

The #4 is doable but the #15 has one too many options. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/02/12 04:24 PM

Can the Crows Beak butt cap be rounded like the other caps? oldguy
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/02/12 04:36 PM

Can you order a border patrol handle in wood?
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/02/12 05:39 PM

Ben
Yes to border patrol in wood
Peter
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/02/12 07:50 PM

I meen without a butt cap, all wood with a wrist thong.
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/02/12 10:11 PM

Here you go

Peter
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/02/12 10:47 PM

Very cool. I really need to get a nice piece of osage orange for a model 5!

Thanks for the pics and tips fellas.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/02/12 10:53 PM

Ben,
Yes you can.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Sorry I've been absent folks. Huntin' season's over now...Back to work...CCS
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/04/12 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: oldguy
Can the Crows Beak butt cap be rounded like the other caps? oldguy

No one knows. I'll call the shop and post it here. oldguy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/05/12 06:33 AM

I think it can be Jerry, but I try and not call the shop. I was hoping to see Scotty at the Gator cutlery show...but he was a "No-Show". Let us know if you give them a call. Otherwise: I'll check when I pick up my order next week.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/12/12 10:05 AM

Capt,
Is the sawteeth / no sawteeth grind still available?
Thanks in advance, Jimmy Bedgood.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/12/12 10:31 AM

10-4 Jimmy. It is available and I just sold a Model #18-5 1/2" made up with that blade shape/grind at the Gator show!
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/12/12 04:34 PM

Thanks Capt that will be my first option on my newest build.
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/26/12 07:04 PM

Can the model 1 be ordered with the top bevel not sharpened and would that be a chargable option? oldguy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/26/12 07:17 PM

Yes...and "no"...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/26/12 07:23 PM

Capt C,
Thanks
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/26/12 10:10 PM

Capt.

I am trying to spec a Thorpe Bowie what woods are avilable for handles (I don't want walnut), is there any good rosewood or ironwood currently at the shop? how much extra over leather does wood cost? Also can you get a brass crows beak butt cap on a concave shape or a border patrol handle?

Thanks
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/26/12 10:14 PM

Woods available from the shop include;
Walnut
Rosewood
Maple
Ironwood.
The IW has come out very nice of late. "Crow's beak" butt with some handle shapes but not the ones you mentioned...sorry.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: If you choose a shop-supplied wood and a crow's beak butt cap, you'll get #22 shaping on your wood at no extra charge...and it is close in overall shape and function to a BPH...CCS
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/26/12 10:24 PM

Thanks Capt, Really appreiate it, also can you ask for the #22 handle to be on the large size, because of the size of the Thorpe? Also how about the cost of wood?

I am also specking a #14 is there any other micarta handles available other than Black and Green?

Thanks again, i realize you have better things to do, like riding that HD, How do you like it by the way?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/12 12:18 AM

Woods run:
$40-$50, depending on "which one" IW is $50...Maple is $45...RW & WA run $40 each. Ordering a "Thorpe" will dictate a large chunk of wood be used. There is no need to request it.

Micartas: Black, Green, Maroon, Ivorite and Red & Blue, but I don't think that the shop has red/blue in large blocks, so I'd stick with one of the other choices.
I think that's all of your questions answered...except my Harley "Fat Boy"? It's a blast! I have some new "tricks" installed that aren't in these photos.
Thanks, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Wally

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/12 08:48 AM

Gonna ride that to BLADE this year, Capt.?
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/12 11:27 AM

Thank you for the timely response as the specs are due today.

Your FLSTFB looks great, the Black Denim really sets off the chrome I guess on that one I should say instead of keep the shiney side up "keep the flat black side up"

Regards
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/12 06:28 PM

Capt, Is it possible to currently build a "Faisal" set?

I think the five options on both knives (Thorpe and large Toothpick) would go:

1. Forward curved brass Hilt
2. Brass scaloped collar
3. Flanged scalloped brass but cap
4. Brass name plate

5. This is the option I don't know about, as I don't want to use Elephant Ivory, could the shop use the new Ivorite on these large Bowie handles? If not what could be used that would most look like the original "King Faisal" set?

Thanks for all your help, Best regards
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/12 06:32 PM

Brass forward curved double hilt is "not" a chargeable option. It does not count against the "5". Stag, especially if you supplied dressed stag would look dynamite! Alternate ivory is also an option you may want to pursue. The shop-supplied ivorite will get you there also.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: Real ivory is the "bomb" though...CCS
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/12 07:22 PM

Capt, Are you sure that Ivorite from the shop is possible I have since heard that the shop does not have it in a large enough size.

Where would I get and what is "dressed stag" I assume from your answer the shop does not carry it would the shop supplied stag work?

I agree Ivory is the real deal but is not possible for this build.

Thanks for all the help.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/12 07:43 PM

I have also been told the ivorite is on the "small" side..."BUT"...(I know...I know)...I thought Holzinger (or someone within the past week) featured a Smitty with ivorite in a post?? Too many drugs in the 60's? Or did I really see that?
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/28/12 06:52 AM

RMK does have ivorite large enough for this set, however we do not accept dressed down stag as CW.

---DW---
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/05/12 09:35 AM

Have dug through the 78 pages and probably missed this.

Model 12-8 and Model 12-9 can be ordered with a Standard Model 1 type hilt or a Single Hilt.

Question is if I do that (in brass), are these chargeable or not? (There is a really cool 12-8 with Single Hilt posted out there.)

Sorry if I missed this. Have seen references but they did not address whether or not it was one of the 5 options.

New guy, trying to learn.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/05/12 10:27 AM

Not a chargeable option, Doc. If you go from a single hilt to a double? Different story.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/05/12 10:29 AM

Thanks. Very much helps.
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/04/12 09:57 AM

Captain:

Having trouble locating this answer.

Is the Fishtail Handle still available from the shop? If so, can it be done in customer supplied wood?

Sorry if this is a repeat. Still learning.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/04/12 10:18 AM

"Fishtail" handles, almost exclusively found on the Randall #24-Guardian", have been long since discontinued and are no longer available. Hope this helps...although I have a hunch it ain't the answer you were lookin' for.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/04/12 10:21 AM

Thanks. Will not move further down this path.

You are the Encyclopedia Britannica of Randall Building.

Posted by: Skeetdoc

Alternative Ivory - 04/18/12 07:27 AM

Captain:

This is probably in this thread and you can shoot me if you feel like it.

Going to put together some Alternative Ivory knives this year. Bowles says it can be scrimmed in black like normal ivory and recommends this site for procurement:

http://www.masecraftsupply.com/Merchant2...ory_Code=ALTIVB

Mr. Randall says no to using the product in 2 inch rod form and wants it to their specified dimensions.

It looks like for a 6 inch blade (CDT, say a model 5) where you want a shaped handle, the AI needs to be: 1 1/4 x 1 3/8 by 5 inches.

The material from this site is available in 1 1/4 x 1 5/8 x any length.

Question 1: Can I send this size bar cut to 5 inches or do I need to have 1/4 ripped off of it?

The material is also available 1 3/8 x 2 7/8 which could be ripped into 2 pieces for handles with slightly greater versatility at about the same expense.

Question 2: If the material has to be cut, is it something I can do or have done prior to going to the shop?

Sorry for being ignorant. Hopefully it will improve with time....

Still learning. Lifetime process.
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/18/12 08:11 AM

Doug,
Randall has it's guidlines printed so you know what size they need for different blades and handle styles. They are quite specific.
"less than minimum dimensions will be rejected over maximun by more than 1/8" tolerance will also be rejected"
Hope this helps.
I wonder how they handle stag???
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/18/12 08:31 AM

Guess I will have to fire up the bandsaw and shave a quarter off.

Thanks.
Posted by: TonyLaPetri

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/18/12 08:34 AM

Doug,
This may be of some help.
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/18/12 08:42 AM

Tony;

Thanks. Have it. The issue is the Max tolerance. Didn't make any sense to me that too much would be an issue in a place filled with machines and in a place that uses Stag as handle material. Difficult to grow those horns to exact dimensions and they are ROUND like a 2 inch ROUND piece of AI.

That's why I love this forum. No need re-inventing the wheel. Just ask this group of people who have been down the path. VERY HELPFUL!!!!!

THANKS!!!!!
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/18/12 09:28 AM

Masercraft Supply will cut Alternative Ivory to the dimensions you want.

They say it is soft and cuts easily and recommend a tile saw.
They say it will walk with a bandsaw if not careful. They also say
dropping it can easily damage it.

Thanks all.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/18/12 09:43 AM

The "AI" that I have in stock is round. It measures 1.355 inches by 5 inches. I use it for nedium size knife and have "not" had it rejected. I did not get it from Masecraft Supply, although I buy from them. Their sizes were just plain too much work for the very small amount of orders I receive for AI.
The shop will reject your handle material if it doesn't measure...period! Being 4 years behind has caused them to "just say no" to un-acceptable dimensions. Best to get it, cut it close to specs, siding slightly on the larger side, and send it in.
I have all but stopped taking customers handle material because it...many times...is asking me to "fudge" one way or the other. I'd rather use material that I have bought, ordered or cut to proper size...It's just plain easier.
With regards to stag (or any other natural material)...what you see is what you get. The shop does very...VERY little custom trimming on their stag. The reason they can do this (or not do this, depending on how you look at it) is the fact that the stag has been "sorted". There are bins / barrels with different diameter stag in each. They simply have to go to the correct bin to choose the handle prior to making the knife.
Hope this answer helps...even if it's not quite you wanted to hear. Buy the stuff larger and trim it. Thank God I have access to Gene Beal and his fine (but small) shop. Any problems that I have with size of materials...I pay the man for his time and get it done..."RIGHT"!!
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/18/12 09:47 AM

Captain:

Thanks!!!
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/27/12 10:32 AM

On a knife with the brass or nickel silver butt plate I have seen some with a red spacer, some with a blue spacer. Do you get a choice of spacer color with the butt plate?
Oldguy
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/27/12 11:43 AM

Is it possible to order a full tang knife like a #14with a butplate of butcap? Thanks for having this informative thread!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/27/12 12:11 PM

It is "not". The tang comes all the way to the end of the handle. In fact, in the case of a Buxton Fighter, it even extends "past" the back of the handle.
Hope this helps, even though it may not be what you wanted to hear.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/27/12 02:11 PM

I'm currently specing a #14 full tang model...

1) is a #1 style brass hilt available at no cost?

2) is a lugged brass hilt available, if so what cost?

3) I am supplying my own cut to spec micarta what is the cost of doing this?

Thanks much!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Alternative Ivory - 04/27/12 02:57 PM

Lugged hilt option: $55.00
CW (micarta) : All material subject to quote from the Randall shop. The minimum charge is $25 (for knives whose standard handle material is stag, micarta or wood)...up to $75.00, depending upon quite a few different things..."BUT"...(That word again)...No more than $75...
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Stabilized Chestnut - 04/29/12 03:30 PM

Have a few more questions on Customer Supplied Wood.

I have an interest in Stabilized Spalted Chestnut (see attached photo) for a set of knives to be done in 2013.

1. Has anybody used this type of wood and are there issues?

2. Has anybody used: www.woodstabilizer.com for purchases? Any issues with them?

I assume people have purchased wood before only to find out when it gets to the shop that it has significant flaws in it.

I have the ability to do Computed Tomography and MRI on wood blocks. It looks like the baseball industry has been using CT to detect flaws in baseball bats for a few years.

3. Has anybody out there had experience with CT or MRI of their knife handle blocks to assess them for suitability (detect internal flaws that you cannot see until you cut into it)?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by: boardrider

My Stupid Question... - 04/30/12 11:02 PM

Sorry to change the continuity of the thread, I will have some questions and comments about stabilized wood later.

My question is regarding a build that I am currently chosing options for. In ordereing a Brass nameplate the RMK catalog says they are usually placed on the trademark side of the blade. My knife's sheath is to be a right handed model. If the knife goes in the sheath with the blade edge facing to my rear on the right side of my body then the logo on the blade would be facing toward my body as would the nameplate. Therefore the nameplate would face toard the back of the sheath and would not be visible unless the knife is unsheathed (I hope this makes sense)

So My question is shouldn't the nameplate or any other other handle decoration (like scrimshaw, or ivory inlays) be placed on the non trademark side of the knife for a right handed carry (which is the most common carry side)? I know this is true with holstered pistols, the handle embleshing usually faces out so it can be seen without drawing the firearm. Why does RMK recommend it to be facing the sheath and not be visible?

I'm sure that I am just confused and there is an easy answer to this question...does anyone know the answer???


Thanks
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: My Stupid Question... - 04/30/12 11:40 PM

You can specify which side you want the nameplate on with the exception of right hand finger grips, it is on the non trademark side and left hand finger grips it is on the trademark side. Model 14 finger grips either side

Peter
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: My Stupid Question... - 05/01/12 12:20 AM

Like baseball...Label "up". Artwork, when it comes to Randall knives, usually goes on the trademark side of the blade as it presents best in a display case. It's always been that way. Most knifemakers that I have dealt with use the same logic, verses location in a sheath.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: giacomo

Re: My Stupid Question... - 05/12/12 07:40 AM

Hello Captain,
I want to order a knife with a Customer Supplied Red Tenite handle with the Wrist Thong option drilled in the handle material(not in a butt cap).
The use of Tenite like CW handle have the same limitation as G10?
I'm talking about the fact that is no more possible to order the Wrist Thong option on a G10 handle in a cut-down tang knife.
Comparing two same size(Medium/Large) blocks I have:
G10 weight 276 grams(9.73oz), Tenite 176 grams(6.21oz); they should be quite different in density.
Thanks for your time.
Giacomo.
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/23/12 06:03 AM

Capt,
I saw a lot of knives a the shop sale with the premium stag on it. Is this replacing the common type sambar stag or is it an option? The only time I've seen it was at the sale.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: My Stupid Question... - 05/23/12 09:16 AM

Giacamo,
A wrist thong is an option on any cuctomer wood...or shop-supplied wood for "any" CDT knife. A standard Model #14 (full, exposed tang model) comes with the wrist thong included. It will count as one of your 5 options on the CDT, as will the Tenite. I don't believe I've ever seen red tenite. Do you have a photo?
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/23/12 09:21 AM

According to Gary Randall, from now...on this special (dyed) stag, it will only be provided on knives made for the shop sale. Word coming down ealrier was that the shop was contemplating a $20 upcharge and taking customer orders for it. Apparently it is a bit too labor intensive to offer this option.
Hope this helps...It sure is nice stuff!
Capt. Chris
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/23/12 05:45 PM

Thanks Capt.
Posted by: giacomo

Re: My Stupid Question... - 05/25/12 04:40 AM

Hello Captain,
red tenite is in the middle between cherry red micarta and orange G10.
Giacomo.

P.S. first time I try to enter a foto in a post, hope it will work.
Posted by: giacomo

Re: My Stupid Question... - 05/25/12 04:48 AM

Captain,
I forgot to mention that if you type on ebay "red tenite block" you'll find where my block comes from.

Have a nice week-end.
Giacomo.
Posted by: Gamble

Re: My Stupid Question... - 05/26/12 01:43 PM

and if you are right handed the plate will face your palm when in hand if it is on the non trademark side.
Posted by: Tanasie

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/05/12 02:50 PM

Captain...
When sending in a block of G10 to the shop for a knife build...can you tell me what option's the shop will and won't do with the G10... other than handle 'shape' ?

Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/05/12 03:51 PM

Rex,
They will "not" install a compass. If the knife is ordered with a butt cap you can get a wrist thong but Randall is reluctant to drill the G-10 to install one. All of the above is because G-10 is hard on the 3 "B's"...Blades, Belts-n-Bits. Metal spacers are doable and you had best have the exact sized piece of material as they do not want to have to whittle it down for ya'...
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pappy19

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/08/12 12:23 PM

What models are currently available with a slab stag option besides the Cattleman's?

Pap
Posted by: oldguy

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/08/12 01:37 PM

Pappy,
Only the Cattleman and the Stanaback Special are available with slab sides. The search option is your friend. oldguy
Posted by: pappy19

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/08/12 02:26 PM

I thought so, but just purchased a small Model 5-4 and it has stag slabs so I was thinking it might be an unusual one, so the reason to confirm. Thanks-

Pap
Posted by: TonyLaPetri

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/08/12 04:35 PM

Ooooh ... Lets see pics!!!
Posted by: pappy19

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/08/12 08:44 PM

It was an ebay deal so when it arrives, I'll take some pics. It will match my Cattleman's.

Pap
Posted by: Ironworker

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/22/12 10:23 AM

Capt,will the randall shop etch your name on the new mini-27.Thanks ,Walt
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/22/12 10:43 AM

I believe they will. I am on my way down there in an hour's time...I'll check. Seeing as how it is a catalog item I don't see why not???
...to be continued...Capt. Chris
Posted by: Guido_Bitossi

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/22/12 02:20 PM

As I won the privilege to have one of the very first six Minis #27 at the RKCC meeting in Atlanta... I asked Scott to have it etched: no problem... I was told.
Hope it helps.
Posted by: Ironworker

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/22/12 02:36 PM

Thanks, Guido Walt
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/22/12 07:42 PM

Yes Guido and Walt,
ONE line "ONLY". Guido: I picked yours up today. Mail soon coming.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Ironworker

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/22/12 08:42 PM

Thank you, Capt., Walt
Posted by: Guido_Bitossi

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/23/12 01:45 AM

Thanks Capt.
I am really "on fire" waiting for all my suff coming....soon!
It'll be near one month before I will be able to hold them...

Walt...my pleasure !
Posted by: 505Gibbs

Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 06/25/12 01:55 PM

I know at one time you could order all blue spacers - not viable currently nor could you get all white.
Any idea as to why the shop will not do this for white and why was the all blue dropped?
Thanks
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 06/25/12 02:42 PM

All blue and "other" spacer combinations were discontinued 10 or more years ago. I asked Gary Randall why this was the case. The answer, basically, boiled down to the fact that the shop had to stop some place. There was a letter sent to all authorized dealers advising them of the change. All red, all black, red, white & blue and metal (aluminum or brass) were/are still available. I can certainly understand limitations from the shop, given the backlog and scheduling issues. They are getting back on track now and my June order is within one day of it's original scheduled ship date. The same purpose and reasoning was implemented with the "5 option limit"...Ya' gotta stop some place.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 505Gibbs

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 06/25/12 03:19 PM

Thanks Chris!!
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/06/12 01:46 PM

Captain:

Can a Large Gambler (5 inch) have a handle with
finger grips instead of a concave or straight? Can't find anything to suggest that it
can't but I have been unable to find a picture of one.

Doug E.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/06/12 06:29 PM

Doug,
Yes it can, along with a single hilt, as opposed to a reduced hilt. I have made up a couple and they appeared fair to partly ugly though!
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/06/12 08:42 PM

Thanks! That helps.

Doug E.
Posted by: Sidney_Redford

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/06/12 10:04 PM

Cap this a question you can ask Scott sometime when you are there. I got the complete set of Scar remember Nam. all came with Doug's silver. The blade on the first two were marked Silver but the last one is not. Can I send this back to the shop to have the last blade marked silver? If so do you have any idea what the cost would be?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/06/12 10:09 PM

I'll check. Is it blade etched? If so, usual charges should apply and $15-20 outta' cover it.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Sidney_Redford

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/06/12 10:25 PM

I think it is etched, does not seem to be stamped.
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/15/12 12:11 PM

Hey Capt. Chris
Do you know if the shop can work with petrified wood for a CW handle material
Thanks
Peter
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/16/12 03:43 PM

Peter,
I think they can if it is cut to specs.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/16/12 03:49 PM

Thanks
I may have to try to find a better sized piece and see if I can have it cut. I think you might need a diamond saw blade to cut it though

Peter
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/16/12 04:16 PM

If it is too "rock-like" the shop will not take it. Gene Beal and I had a very though time with some "original...genuine" lignum vitae but Gene purchased a huge ban saw from Italy (4.5 H.P. motor!!) and it got the job done. If you want to send it to Gene or myself we'll give it a try.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/16/12 05:22 PM

Capt. Chris
Thanks
It is a rock, I don't think a regular saw will cut it. I may try an abrasive cutoff wheel for masonry on it and see what happens, but I now don't think that the shop would want to work with it.
It would be unique though
I will talk to some of the rock guys in town how they handle it

Peter
Posted by: TonyLaPetri

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/16/12 05:35 PM

How about making something like this out of that stuff ...
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/17/12 09:37 AM

Someone might be able to cut slabs for a Triathlete or similar. I know when it is polished, they are super looking.

Pap
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 07/25/12 04:41 PM

Quick question for Captain:

Catalog says no finger grips on a Model 2.

I have a Model 2 with stag and finger grips but it was probably ordered in 2004.

Can I get finger grips on a model 2 (wood handle)?

Thanks.

Doug E.
Posted by: TonyLaPetri

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 08/24/12 10:03 AM

Hey Cap!
Can a stag handle be ordered with a Border Patrol shape????

Thanks,
Tony
Posted by: TonyLaPetri

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 08/29/12 05:29 PM

Hey Cap!
Can a stag handle be ordered with a Border Patrol shape????

Thanks,
Tony
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 08/29/12 05:58 PM

I'll check tomorrow when I visit the shop. I believe it "can". I'll let you know. Computer's been a bit of a challenge after the storm. Sorry for not reponding.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Doug: I have had finger grips on #2's in the past, in fact selling a couple to Rhett, who really liked them. I'll also check on the current Randall position.
CCS
Posted by: TonyLaPetri

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 08/29/12 10:07 PM

Thanks Cap.
No problem. I didn't realize you were having computer problems.
Tony
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 08/30/12 08:54 AM

Thanks Captain.

doug
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 09/21/12 12:09 PM

Capt C
If I order a knife say a model 3 and add a micarta handle.Will it come with the standard red, white and blue spacers by default or do I need to request them?
Thanks
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 09/21/12 12:15 PM

"ALL" cdt Randall knives come with red, white & blue spacers. The "request" would have to occur if you wanted something "else".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: armedcitizen

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 09/25/12 04:48 PM

Any idea how far off the shop is from scheduled ship dates right now?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 09/25/12 06:37 PM

They are quite close, if not spot on! My last several months have been within 5 days or so and looking that good or better from now on..."UNLESS"...something changes.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: armedcitizen

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 09/25/12 07:39 PM

Sweet.

Thank you.
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 09/26/12 10:03 PM

I received a letter from the Randall Shop in 2011, informing me of my 2012 delivery dates, including September 20th.

My knives are due in tomorrow, September 27th.

I figure that's about a week delay.

Hope that helps
Posted by: armedcitizen

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - spacers - 10/08/12 12:23 PM

I may have asked this before, if so I apologize.

Is the #7 still available with a #6 grind and would that be a charged option?

Thank you.
Posted by: sva01

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 10/30/12 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
Larry...and other members,
Spacers that are "currently" available...and this is straight from my last printed letter from Valerie, at Randall, are as follows:

A) Naturally the standard configuration is red, white and blue.

B) All red spacers (an option, but not chargeable and can be ordered on any Randall that the red, white and blue could be ordered on).

C) All black spacers (Same rules apply as "B")

D) Brass spacers (with "black" is the standard configuration, unless otherwise requested)

E) Brass spacers (with "red", upon request)

F) Aluminum spacers (again: with "black" unless otherwise requested)

G) Aluminum spacers (with "red" : Same rules apply as "F")

These are the only spacer combinations available. Now..Collars? A different story. Hope this answers your questions. Best, Capt. Chris



Hi Capt.
Can you update us on the sapcers? Is this info still valid? What is the charge for aluminum or brass with red or black spacers?

Thanks
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 10/30/12 08:32 PM

According to my price list,

Brass & _________Spacers
and
Aluminum & __________Spacers

are a $15.00 option.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 10/30/12 10:25 PM

10-4...What Buck said.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Yes...Same story for spacer options as is quoted above...CCS
Posted by: dcb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/01/12 01:44 PM

I have a question about the standard finger grip micarta handles on full-tang models.

It seems that there can be a variation in how finger grip handles are shaped. The shape can be somewhat rectangular, with fairly straight edges. Or the shape can have edges that are more rounded, particularly on the finger contour. I have medium sized hands and short fingers, and I prefer the rounded finger contours.

Can I request a rounded contour to the finger grips when I place an order?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/01/12 02:14 PM

You can request "shallow" finger grips or simply explain that you require a standard sized finger grips and not over-sized finger grips. It you want to have a better chance of getting a handle that will fit, consider "single finger grip" as well. The center section is somwhat more narrow (or shallow).
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: dcb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/01/12 04:35 PM

Capt. Chris,

Thanks for the advice. I'll remember to try the single finger grip.
Posted by: Guido_Bitossi

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/01/12 04:53 PM

Thanks so much Capt.
That's new for me too...nice to know about...
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/12 03:27 PM

Cap or Scott, has the Randall shop considered making a stainless steel blade a non-chargeable option? I mean non-chargeable as it applies to the five option limit, not money wise. Where I live stainless is not "optional".
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/12 05:22 PM

Great point Tom. I don't know if they have explored the possibility or not. Maybe we'll hear from Scott. I would imagine it could be a headache, as many knives are available "both" ways, some in stainless "only" and some in carbon "only". It's an interesting idea and a rather sneaky way of asking for more chargeable options. (Hah)
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/12 05:56 PM

Originally Posted By: tomthbomb
Cap or Scott, has the Randall shop considered making a stainless steel blade a non-chargeable option? I mean non-chargeable as it applies to the five option limit, not money wise. Where I live stainless is not "optional".


I agree, Stainless is not an option for me. Illinois is often very wet in the fall and winter when I love to get outside. Not having to worry about rust or staining is a huge maintenance worry off my back.

I feel 5 options is just the right amount for my users but adding a compass or maybe something else would be neat.
Posted by: Tom Vaught

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/15/12 12:57 PM

Many times I think that I would easily pay the extra money for the stainless option but that stainless option sometimes takes away a different option I would like/need on that specific knife. By the time you spec out a given knife for USER options you typically have to decide what to give up. I don't like to give up things that might help me down the road in the field. Examples would be Lanyard, thumb notches, SFG (due to my small hands), full tang, waxed sheath. So something has to go if you want stainless.

Tom Vaught
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/15/12 01:41 PM

Full tang isn't really an option. The sheath options such as model c and waxing do not count against the knives options.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/15/12 02:52 PM

Thumb notches are standard on quite a few knives Tom. If, by full tang, you mean a full exposed tang it's not an option and the wrist thong is included on exposed tang model, i.e. #14,#15,#16,#17,Fireman, CC/FT, #28, etc. Thumb nocthes are also standard on the #16 and Fireman as well as the #28...
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/15/12 03:27 PM

On that 14 I just ordered with you capt it will have a BP handle thus means a model #1 style hilt correct?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/15/12 04:36 PM

#14 or 15's will only have a #1 double hilt in CDT, unless otherwise requested. Is yours a full, exposed (standard) style #14 or a "CDT"?
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/15/12 07:57 PM

Full tang
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/15/12 09:14 PM

You must request #1 hilt.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Tom Vaught

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/16/12 11:17 AM

Ok, so if I look at a Model #16 Special Fighter I get this:
(All for $385.00)

7" blade of 1/4" stainless steel stock. Top cutting edge sharpened approx. 3". Brass double hilt. 4 1/2" handle of durable Black or Green Micarta. Extra heavy 7/8" wide tang extends through channel in handle, which is firmly fastened with epoxy. Standard with Black Micarta finger grip handle. Single Finger Grip and Border Patrol handle shapes available. Sawteeth not available.

Stainless Blade - No Charge
Full Tang - No Charge
Micarta Handle - No Charge
Lanyard Provision - No Charge
Sharpened top edge - No Charge

So what Options could I put on this Knife??

SFG or BP handle
Nickle Silver Hilt
NASA Micarta?

Have a couple of these knives but was just wondering. Heck of a deal for $385 But for ~$20 could get a Diver with sawteeth (wish I could get it with other than Finger Grooves) BP??

Suggestions??

Tom Vaught




Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/16/12 04:35 PM

Divers can come finger rgips, single finger grip or border patrol. You can have the standard blade, sawteeth os NST, sawteeth grind / no sawteeth. Makes the sharp top edge much longer.
The #16 spl. fighter is a lot of bang for the buck also.
Capt. Chris
Here's a couple of different #16-7" NST...Enjoy...CCS
Posted by: Tom Vaught

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/17/12 04:03 PM

So on a #16 Diver is the Full Hilt considered an option or as a standard hilt? Half Hilt standard or full Hilt standard?

Single Finger Groove, I assume would be an optional handle

Nickle Silver Hilt would be optional Hilt material

Sawteeth would be an option

So what do I do for the 5th option? Supply some of my NASA handle material? Personally I like the latest Shop Black Micarta.

Help me out here Capt.

Tom Vaught
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/17/12 05:05 PM

I think on a diver either hilt is free you can specify what one you want.

Capt are the green and black micartas paper or canvas? I've never really heard.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 12/18/12 10:48 AM

Micarta is linen. Either color is considered "non-chargeable". Full tang is standard and no CDT is available. Double hilts (I think) are only considered standard with sawteeth. Single hilt are standard, along with thumb notches, on a standard blade.
As far as options go:
1) Sawteeth
2) Sawteeth (No sawteeth) like the 2 blades I have shown above
3) Nickel silver hilts (either single or double)
4) Border patrol handle
5) Single finger grip handle
6) Waxed leather or nylon sheath (Not charged towards the "5" option limit)
7) Name plate
8) Blade etching (one or two lines)
9) CW: Custom handle material but it must be 1/4" slotted and exact specs to shop's requirements.
My internet will not be connected until sometime late tomorrow at the new locale. Be patient if I cannot respond. Thanks in advance, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/10/13 09:52 AM

Captain:

Are saw teeth or saw/no saw available on Model 5's anymore (6 inch or longer)?

Doug E.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/10/13 07:23 PM

Doug,

Cap is in Alabama hunting....finally....


Yes, this option is still available on all sizes of the model 5 except the 5 inch model...(in which the combat companion is substituted)

---DW---
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/10/13 07:52 PM

Thank you so much.

Doug
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/10/13 09:03 PM

Guess I was wrong in posting this excerpt from the current Randall catalog...

Are sawteeth available on any other models than the ones mentioned in the catalog, plus the Model 5?
Posted by: rodbrown

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/10/13 09:28 PM

Steve, you and I both were wrong. I looked in THE catalog, as usually the answers to my questions are there.

Learn something new every day!!
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/12/13 06:26 PM

Capt, just curious, what is thr shop policy on crown stag handles? Can they be ordered shop supplied on a 14 cdt? Thanks
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/13/13 10:55 AM

I'm back (for a few days).
Griff:
Crown can be ordered installed on many Randall knives..."BUT"...(There's that word again)...it has to be customer-supplied. I currectly have over 100 pieces (thanks to someone who shall remain nameless) and am trying to figure out the right "project" for all of it.
Hope this helps...Capt. Chris
Posted by: Guido_Bitossi

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/13 05:42 PM

OK Gumba!.....I'm in....whatever..!
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/13 05:46 PM

Capt, how about some classic APFK's in 7 inch carbon steel blades all with crown stag?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/14/13 05:51 PM

Let's discuss outside of the ordering questions thread. (It's probably my fault for mentioning it in the first place.
Thanks, Capt. Chris
Posted by: BOB_TEATES

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/30/13 05:02 PM

I've got a 12-8 on order with a forward curved double NS hilt.the invoice lists the hilt as"NS2 nickel silver hilt-double".is this correct for forward curved? I really should know this.Thanks,Bob
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/31/13 09:20 AM

Bob,
It is always a good idea to "over-list" your options, when ordering. Your particular example (#12-8") comes "standard" with the forward curved double hilt. Most other would code out differently. If you wanted a "Model #1 styled hilt" on your #12-8" you should request that as well. It would then code out: NS2-#1 style (or something like that).
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: BOB_TEATES

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/31/13 09:32 AM

Thanks Capt, that answers my question.I thought that was the case but wanted to make sure.Bob
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/17/13 04:11 PM

Captain:

Can a Model 22 be ordered with Brass hardware front and back instead of Nickel and Aluminum?

If so, from a option limit standpoint, can I get Ironwood, Red/Brass Spacers and a Wrist Thong?

doug
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/17/13 04:40 PM

Doug,
Yes...to all of the above. I have that exact knife on order (almost) except brass & black spacers.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: My favorite #22 in IW...CCS
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/17/13 05:14 PM

Thank you.

Doug
Posted by: Guido_Bitossi

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/18/13 10:42 AM

Capt.!...is that my order..???
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/18/13 03:43 PM

Capt, really like that iron wood, would that handle be available on a 14CDT?

I guess what i am asking is on a 14CDT iron wood handle what furniture and handle shapes would be available? Thanks
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/18/13 09:10 PM

CDT handles will accomodate anything other CDT handles will...pretty diverse!
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/14/13 07:57 PM

Capt, Thanks for the response and all your help.

How about the difference between a #22 handle... and a Border patrol handle with a crowsbeek but cap they must be similar but would they be the same? The knife in question would be a 15CDT.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/14/13 08:51 PM

BPH handles does "not" come with crow's beak butt cap. It comed with (or without) a butt cap but that cap follows the contours of the handle. A #22 with it's standard crow's beak works in opposite. The handle follows the butt cap shaping.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/15/13 08:31 PM

Does anyone know if finger grips can be added to a stag or micarta handle on a knife that is already built with a standard handle? Oldguy
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/15/13 09:50 PM

To my knowledge, which grows every day... but is still limited! I believe that "after the facts" are limited to wrist thongs and thumb notches! Once the Captain settles from the O'Ville show, or anyone else... they can confirm!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/16/13 04:07 AM

No finger grips with a crow's beak butt cap, with original order...or added at a later date. There are examples out there but that was before the 5 option limit and during Ward Gay handle shaping days. Those days are gone, unfortunately.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/16/13 10:00 AM

So if an existing model already has 5 options, you can't send it in an add any more, is that right?

Pap
Posted by: Byrdguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/16/13 10:06 AM

I'm not sure, but possibly options like thumb notches and wrist thong holes could be added after the fact. Maybe a compass also, depending on the handle. Just a guess here.
Posted by: Duke

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/16/13 10:50 AM

Pap,
You can have the shop add personal engraving after owning quite a while; did so for my daughter this last Christmas. BUT.....it had few options so the "5 limit rule" didn't come into play. AND, the happy Santas in the Randall Shop did a "rush job", just because Gary Randall's first letter to me said something like 6-8 weeks and I didn't ask them to hurry, just said she'd miss it in her stocking but would still be thrilled at the personalized "New Year's Randall".
What a kind bunch of folks to deal with!!
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/16/13 12:21 PM

Capt, do you know if you can send a knife back to the shop to add a thong hole in a but cap and add a metal initial plate with initials to a iron wood handle, also adding engraving writing on the blade??
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/16/13 02:56 PM

Hey Boardrider, The Captain can give the final on it but from what I know... #1 yes -I've done it, #2 90% yes - not done it but heard of it & #3 99% again not done it but heard of it! Good Luck with your upgrades! If the ironwood has finger grips, the initial playte may be an issue.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/17/13 07:45 PM


OK, Folks:
What everyone is asking, basically, is if the Randall shop will allow me to have more than 5 options on my knife. Is it OK to order (or purchase) a Randall knife, tricking it out or not, and then send it back for even "more".
The reason for a "5 option" limit is (and was) to allow the shop to produce a quality knife and work their way back to meeting their scheduled delivery time. It has taken over 5 years for them to accomplish this. Do you think they would like to backslide? I think not.
I have no doubt that incidents have (and will) occur when the Randall shop will accomodate a customer with special service or repair needs. That's a far cry from opening up the services and repairs to include adding this...or that. Surely you good folks can understand this. I hope this answers your questions and concerns.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/17/13 08:13 PM

Can you get a waxed sheath for a model 10-3?? Oldguy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 03/17/13 08:36 PM

You can order a waxed sheath with a #10-3" but if you want an additional sheath, after your initial order, you will have to contact the shop, check on availability, and it will receive an "R" stamp indicating a replacement sheath.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: Sheath options (on your initial order) do "not" count towards the "5" options on the knife itself...CCS
Posted by: HALORANGER

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/03/13 07:59 PM

Capt, Can the drilled model #14 hilt be ordered on the large bowies? I would like to replicate the options on this Raymond Thorpe Bowie to a Confederate Bowie.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/03/13 09:18 PM

Yes they can...or at least the last time I requested one it was doable.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/06/13 12:25 AM

Capt, when you supply wood to the shop cut to size it of course is shaped into a handle after that process what type of finish if any is then applied?
Thanks for any info you can give me. Best
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/06/13 09:53 AM

Griff,
To the best of knowledge (and that can be quite limited at times) the shop uses a buffer and a small amount of rogue applied to the knife. I can never seen any waxes used. There could be a case made for some type of compound being called into service but I have not seen it done.
The buffer is cranked up and the rogue (probably not the correct term) is applied to the moving buffing wheel prior to the knife being worked on. Often this process is repested, depending upon the severity of the initial surface and the amount of application needed.
I'll check with Jed Peckham (Randall's production foreman) when I see him next. If all of this in incorrect, I'll re-post and ammend it. Hope this helps.
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: I like the final finish. I think it is perfect. Enough of the "shine" without too much "flash". Below is one of my Stanaback Specials (4 5/8" version) finished at the shop in a piece of jade green NASA G-10 insulator, from Cape Canaveral, (launch pad complex #39). You can see the "before and after". (You can even detect where the insulators were bolted down on the circuit boards!...CCS
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/06/13 10:10 AM

Thanks Capt, I assume that this holds for wood as well the reason I am asking is i obtained a great pair of highly figured Hawaiian Koa wood handles for a Model #1 and #2 and am wondering if I have to prep the wood in any way before I send it to the shop. all I know about it is that it is cut to size and air dried several years
Posted by: tunefink

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/06/13 10:20 AM

Griff,

You could consider having the wood stabilized. I am not familiar with the stability of Koa, but it would protect you from future cracking.

Based on what I read on Wikipedia, it should make beautiful handles.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/06/13 10:21 AM

I would send them off and have them stabilized first, Griff.
Yes: The process is the same.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Jim459

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/06/13 11:41 PM

Griff,

Here is a Model 23 in Koa.

Jim
Posted by: boardrider

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/07/13 01:19 AM

Thanks All, does anyone know someone that does stabillation?
Posted by: Steven

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/07/13 10:14 AM

Jim
That Koa looks great. Cap like that Jade color as well.
Posted by: LarryWW1246

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/08/13 08:28 PM

Some of the best comes from Nicholas, and Richard Beam works with him:

Beam, Richard
Business Phone
(814) 535-5115
Mobile Phone
814-418-1303

Tell them I referred you to them--I owe tham a favor!

Larry
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/08/13 09:15 PM



Beautiful Randall Jim. That Koa wood has some extreme variations in the figuring. Leaving the handle blank with no lanyard or compass disturbing the lines really let that part shine through.
Awesome !!!!
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/20/13 10:39 PM


Cap,
Can you order a n/s collar when ordering a knife with a leather handle, and if so, what takes place at the butt end for spacers ?
Thank-You....
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/21/13 08:39 AM

Mike,
Good question. I had a Model #4-4 1/2" made last year with a smooth nickel silver collar and a leather handle. I cannot find any photos of that knife but the Randall shop definitely made it and will still make it. All collared handles have 1 spacer (black) at either end, i.e. the collar is seperated from the leather by a single black spacer and the butt cap is also seperated from the leather by a single black spacer. I'll double-check this with the shop when I go down there next week.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 04/21/13 10:59 AM


Thank-You !!!
Food for thought...
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/21/13 10:47 PM

Can the Models 7 - 4 1/2 or 4 - 4 1/2 or 5 - 4 be ordered with a double #1 hilt?

Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/22/13 08:20 AM

Yes...and no:
The #7 and #4 can. In past years you could have added the small model #5-4" to that list as well..."BUT"...(I know...that word again)...due a number of double hilted #5-4's being altered and passed off as miniature Model #1's, the option was discontinued.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: 1tarpontoo

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/31/13 05:12 PM

I found my dad's knife in a garage box afer he died. He served in the Phillipines and I just learned that he and his father bought it in Chicago after he got his draft notice (he was drafted two weeks out of high school). His name, tag number, Infantry and Company (126 Infantry, Company A)are written on the scabbard. Sargeant William M. Dwyer is buried in Joliet, Illinois, Abraham Lincoln National Memorial with his other high school buddies. Does anyone know a shop in Chicago that Randall shipped these to? My mother says it was a well known knife shop.
Posted by: alan_grombacher

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/31/13 10:50 PM

Corrado Cutlery would probably be the knife store. Kitty Corner to the Daily Center and just a bit away from the Board of Trade Building. They always had Randalls in their display cases.

They have moved the shop to Evanston, a short walk from the Irish shop.

Cheers,

Alan Grombacher
RKS#5531
RKCC-CMI-010
Loyola Academy '78
Posted by: Sidney_Redford

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/01/13 03:15 AM

This is just a question for all the talking heads that are at the Blade Show now. It seems like all the knives I ordered in the past and in really has not been that many that all that where make with pure silver were so marked on the blade. Not so with the last two I have gotten. Is this something the shop did out of there extra fine work or did you need to request this as an option? The last two I received where not so marked. I just got the last one the first of the week, had forgotten the order by then to be truthful with all that has happened in my life since I ordered it, but it is a real man's knife. Mod. 12-9-14 grind with Pure Silver,FCH,CMO. handle with center cut Ivory and SS blade. It is a real beautiful knife and to heavy for me but will someday make someone a great collector piece. The Ivory handle is flawless and a great piece of art. If I haven't forgotten how I will take some shots of it and post later? I see a couple of typing errors but for some reason I can't seem to change them but I think you will know what I am trying to say. It is 3 in the morning and I just got up to check on the dogs. Hope all you dogs are having fun, wish I was there.
Posted by: DaveTrydahl

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/03/13 11:45 AM

Hi all, new guy here. I just discovered this forum a few days ago and spent a few hours his weekend reading over this entire thread. There is a ton of good info here I have never heard of before (Bowie Clip Point, “Under” Grips, etc.). Capt., have you considered posting a link to this thread on your website for those customers who aren’t aware of its existence? It would have saved you a half dozen or so calls and emails from me in the past asking questions you have already answered here.
Posted by: Tommy Schofield

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/22/13 01:27 PM

Handle question:
Can a knife be ordered with a commando handle made out of stag? I have not seen one but that does not meen anything, Just wanted to know.

Tommy Schofield
RKCC CM-167
NRA - Lifetime Member
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/23/13 07:02 PM

Sidney,
I have never received a Randall so marked but it is a great idea. It is "not" something the Randall shop marks as a general practice...at least not anymore. Good to see you posting. I left you a voicemail and had not heard from you. Give me all or email.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/23/13 07:03 PM

Tommy,
That's a really great question. I have had commando-shaped stag handles in the past but they were dressed (or polished) stag handles. I tend to think it "is" doable...but I'll check.
Thanks, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/24/13 10:33 AM

Tommy...and all others,
I just got off the phone with Scott. You remember Scott? The guy that used to frequent this forum? (I'm just bustin' him...He'll be back) Here's the word on commando-shaped "stag" handles..."NO".
According to Scott, although this option was available in the past (I knew I had some made before), it has been discontinued. The reason is the stag embargo, which has been going on for 17+ years. The shop cannot afford to use that large stag for a commando shaped handle. Losing a piece to something like this would prove counter-productive both in time and resources. I can only imagine the size needed to accomplish the finished product and I'm sure everyone will understand.
Great question and, hopefully, this will save a few folks some unwanted angst!
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Tommy Schofield

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/24/13 11:23 AM

Thanks Capt. Chris



Tommy Schofield
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/05/13 07:52 AM


On a new knife order could you please tell us what n25 is, please.
Thank-You...
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/05/13 08:10 AM

N-25 would mean that the knife is either:

A) A Model #25 (Trapper) with nickel silver and aluminum hardware.
B) A Model #26-4" with a #25 handle.
C) A Model #27-5 3/4" with a #25 handle
D) A Model #12-9" with a Model #25 handle

B-25 would be the same as above with all "brass" hardware.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/05/13 08:25 AM



Thank-you !!!
Posted by: Sidney_Redford

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/07/13 01:41 PM

Cap thanks for the reply. I think one or two of the first one's I had made were marked so but maybe not. I would have to dig them out and look as I don't have my stuff inv. very well. I know that the first two that I got from Rick S. in the 3 set remember Vietnam were so marked but Rick said Gary did that as a favor. The third knife is not marked as I think Gary realized that it was taking to much of their time. I believe you can send one back and have it so marked for 35:00 if I remember right.
Posted by: DaveTrydahl

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/13/13 09:59 PM

Is the Model 16 only available in stainless, or can it be ordered in carbon steel as well? If so, is this a chargeable option? Thanks.
Posted by: tunefink

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/13/13 10:37 PM

Only stainless.
Posted by: DaveTrydahl

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/14/13 01:06 PM

Okay, thank you.
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/26/13 08:40 PM

Do sawteeth currently come in one size only or can you get small sawteeth? Jerry
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/26/13 09:00 PM

Being cut by hand can mean you can receive several different variations but you won't have any better (or worse) luck requesting any particular size.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/23/13 01:45 PM

I see the #6 "steak knife" as an option in the Randall catalog. However, if ordering directly from the Randall Website, I see no reference to this particular knife. A few questions: How much does the #6 "steak knife" cost? Does it include a sheath (if not, can you order one)? What's the difference between ordering a 4.5" #7 with #6 grind and just ordering the #6 "steak knife"? I'm assuming the 5-limit options available for the #6 "steak knife"?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/23/13 04:48 PM

#6 Steak knife comes with a reduced hilt and a felt pouch. It is the same basic knife as a #7-4 1/2" with #6 grind. Here's just "some" of the differences:
A) Stainless is standard
B) #6 blade grind is standard
C) Stag handle is standard
D) Nickel silver reduced hilt is standard
E) Single felt pouch is standard
Price is: $445.00
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/23/13 05:15 PM

as for your first and second questions, here is some info excerpted from the Randall catalogs.
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/23/13 05:17 PM

OOPS!
Sorry, Captain--didn't see your reply before I sent mine.
Posted by: Doug74

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/23/13 06:50 PM

Thank you Steven and Captain….much appreciated.
Posted by: Steven

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/24/13 12:35 AM

Yes you can order a sheath for it.
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/24/13 08:24 AM

Only time your carrying a steak knife in a sheath is going to relatives for turkey day!
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/11/13 08:44 PM

I'll move this question to this thread because I would like to know the answer.

I've always thought this one was awesome, how close can we get to it now? (Minus Scrim of course)




I can see going with Ivorite Micarta, Crow's Beak Aluminum Butt Cap, Double Nickel Silver Hilt, Aluminum/Black Spacers.

How many options is that Capt.?

Can we add Stainless Steel Blade, or do we have to use O1?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/11/13 09:01 PM

I think the knife cannot be made. To me, at least, the handle "shape" (cool or not) does not look like anything I have seen coming out of the shop. Not saying it didn't...I've just never seen it and it certainly is non-comforming by standard shaped handles. A #22 styled handle shape would be the closest. Perhaps someone ordered the #22 handle "without" the crow's beak butt cap. The hardware looks like fine silver as well. Do you have the specs? It's only a 5-option knife...just "different". Where did you see it?
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/11/13 09:14 PM

It's in the first #12 "Knife of the Week" thread on page 5.

So, Stainless, Ivorite Micarta, Crow's Beak Aluminum Butt Cap, Double Nickel Silver Hilt, Aluminum/Black Spacers is do-able?

I might like to order that combo eventually so I wanted to know. I know it will not be "the same", but it might still look cool.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/11/13 11:20 PM

It is, indeed, "doable".
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Guido_Bitossi

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/12/13 06:23 AM

To a closest look blade is marked L as Lechorn…sorry for the spelling…if wrong.
So handle and scrimshaw should have being made by the same Master….
My 2c
Guido
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/12/13 08:08 AM

That would explain it Guido. Tom was allowed to buy blank blades and work them as he saw fit. Silver, ivory and a thinner, more contoured, handle were trademarks of Tom Leschorn.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Jim459

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/12/13 09:51 AM

Here is the description of the Randall/Leschorn Model 12-6 knife:

6" stainless steel blade, Nickel silver double hilt, nickel silver/black spacers, laminated ebony/ivory handle scrimshawed after Tom's death by his daughter Lisa Leschorn. The only thing Randall about this knife is probably the blade.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/12/13 02:08 PM

I would even debate the spacers and hilt. Look at the "thickness" of the spacers, as opposed to RMK's. Of course, who knows "who" provided the spacers...but they look like fine silver, i.e. exact match to the hilt. A better (more close-up) photo would help. Thanks Jim.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Jim459

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/13 03:57 PM

Here are front and back views.

Jim
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/13 03:59 PM

I would love to have that displayed on my desk or wall!
Posted by: Jim459

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/13 03:59 PM

GTR and Tom collaborated on the knife. It may be the hilt and spacers could be Randall.

Jim
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/13 04:14 PM

Thanks for the new pics Jim, that thing looks badass!
Posted by: tunefink

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/13 06:13 PM

Are you sure it shouldn't be a user Ben? laugh
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/13 06:21 PM

Not that one brother! Although I wouldn't have reservations about using it, it's a tough ass 440B Randall! The handle I would worry about
Posted by: Lyeffion

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/10/14 04:24 PM

I have just become interested in Randall knives. I do not see spacer options in the catalog. How do you know what options are available on particular handles and styles? I am probably just overlooking it. Thanks!

Lyeffion
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/10/14 05:37 PM

Last I heard, it was:

A) Naturally the standard configuration is red, white and blue.

B) All red spacers (an option, but not chargeable and can be ordered on any Randall that the red, white and blue could be ordered on).

C) All black spacers (Same rules apply as "B")

D) Brass spacers (with "black" is the standard configuration, unless otherwise requested)

E) Brass spacers (with "red", upon request)

F) Aluminum spacers (again: with "black" unless otherwise requested)

G) Aluminum spacers (with "red" : Same rules apply as "F")

(If wrong, maybe Capt. Chris will correct.)
Posted by: Lyeffion

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/10/14 06:32 PM

Thanks, that is a big help!
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/26/14 12:35 PM

Captain:

Sorry for another silly question.

I have about 15 different Randall models set up in the pictured configuration.
The question that I can't find the answer to is: Can I use this configuration on a Model 25 and a Model 27?

Thanks in advance.

Doug
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/26/14 02:06 PM

My money is on no.... However the Captain continually provides the most consistent and accurate updates!

What a great looking set up!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/26/14 08:19 PM

Steve is correct. No finger grips or changes in handles (other than what is already available) from the Randall shop on #25's and #27's. You can duplicate the wood and have it centered, surrounded by the standard spacers/leather...but that's about it.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: Doug...Your knives are "in the wind"...CCS
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/26/14 11:18 PM

Thanks Captain!

Looking forward to this package.

Doug
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/14 08:06 PM

Can the shop supply a waxed or unwaxed no hone sheath for model 23 Gamemaster that has the retaining strap that goes around the handle like the hone sheath has? And if so is there a code for that?
Thanks Oldguy
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/14 08:24 PM

If you order a Model 23 with a no-hone sheath, we automatically order a DK (Diagonal Keeper) you must specifically ask for a KAH, (Keeper Around the Handle)

---DW---
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/14 08:35 PM

DW, Thanks that is exactly what I wanted to know. Is the KAH available for other knives also? Oldguy
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/28/14 08:20 PM

Possible, but there are always exceptions...


---DW---
Posted by: DaveTrydahl

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/03/14 01:57 PM

I see many pics of Small Gamblers with a variety of handle materials, but only see the #24 Guardian with micarta.

Since they are similar knives, is the Guardian also available with customer supplied handle materials (stag, wood, G10)? If not, is it available with shop supplied wood or stag?

Thank you.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/03/14 04:52 PM

Dave,
Anything that can be ordered on one can be ordered on the other. Here's a pair I was going to post in the "Matched Pairs" thread. All materials are 100% Randall shop-supplied materials! (...and they ain't bad lookin' either)
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: DaveTrydahl

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/03/14 05:17 PM

Thank you Captain!

That was the answer I was hoping for, with a side of eye candy!
Posted by: DaveTrydahl

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/16/14 11:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
Dave,
Anything that can be ordered on one can be ordered on the other. Here's a pair I was going to post in the "Matched Pairs" thread. All materials are 100% Randall shop-supplied materials! (...and they ain't bad lookin' either)
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris


Thanks again for answering my question. I've been thinking a lot about these and have a follow-up question...

Will they put a concave shape and a smooth coolie cap on the stag for the #24?

Thank you, again (again),

- Dave
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/17/14 06:54 PM

I was talking with Scott today about my September order, which I expected in about three weeks.

Regarding my shipment, he said to expect it about the end of October. So, some of us can expect about six weeks beyond the stated delivery date.

The reasons for the delay have already been mentioned. 1) The loss of three men retiring after a combined 120 years of service; 2) Robert Welch's condition; & 3) The two weeks off for summer vacation.

Fortunately enough, Orlando has not see any major hurricane action in the past few months.

This is just a "public service announcement" for anyone who has a stated delivery date and is wondering about the delay.

We dealers here are trying to reduce the hundred or so phone calls that the Shop gets every day.
Posted by: spark42

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/17/14 09:24 PM

Buck
Thanks for the update
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/29/14 07:22 PM

Can you order a Denmark Special with a reduced hilt? Oldguy
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/30/14 10:03 AM

Originally Posted By: oldguy
Can you order a Denmark Special with a reduced hilt? Oldguy

I ordered a Denmark about 2 years ago, nickel silver reduced hilt. No problems at that time, came right in. I'll bring it in tomorrow and post a picture of the knife.
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/30/14 05:54 PM

A picture of the reduced hilt Denmark Special would be good. Thank you. Oldguy
Posted by: JE6245

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/30/14 06:20 PM

In pictures posted of knives from the 2013 spring sale, there were several knives with handles made of what was referred to as "amber stag". Looks like what I have also seen called red stag. Is the amber stag something that is available through Randall is it something that has to be supplied by the customer? Thanks.

Jim E.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/30/14 11:38 PM

Jim,
The shop has some "premier" stag available at an increased cost. You would have to check with them on the particulars.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Fairbairn

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/01/14 01:08 PM

Pictures of Randall knives from the fifties and sixties showed amber handles. It seemed to me that somehow the deer were growing their antlers in a different colour these days, amounting to almost black and white. Am I to assume that amber stag is still available, but must be specially requested from the Shop? My reason for asking is that I have a model one on order , with a stag handle, with delivery sometime in 2017. Can I then, ask for amber stag? I assume that this would not really interfere with my order, other than perhaps raising the price.
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/01/14 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: JE6245
...handles made of what was referred to as "amber stag". Looks like what I have also seen called red stag.Jim E.

In the past I have heard of people, including taxidermists, staining antler using potassium permanganate.
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 12:00 PM

Why can you not get Ivorite on a full tang knife? Is it not durable enough or too hard to slot?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 02:42 PM

Neither. The shop has a ruling that no ivory-ivorite-white materials out of the #14 room, i.e. exposed tangs.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 03:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
Neither. The shop has a ruling that no ivory-ivorite-white materials out of the #14 room, i.e. exposed tangs.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris

Surely there has to be a reason other than no white materials. Something must have happen sometime down the road for a ruling.
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 05:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
...no ivory-ivorite-white materials out of the #14 room, i.e. exposed tangs

Is this a recent rule, Captain? Gary didn't have a problem making this Model 15 only a few years ago. Do I have a collector's item? What is the rule for CDT (cut down tangs) please?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 06:17 PM

Scott can postp and spell out the specifics. Positively none on Model #10;s. Every white piece I have ever sent in (slotted) has been rejected. Jerry: I know this is hard for you to believe but there is nothing wrong with ivorite, etc. What "is" wrong is the filth these handles hold and the stories they create, i.e. "real ivory", etc. The same holds true with stag.
Certain things just don't fly at the Randall shop. Handle material that is too labor intensive, customer complaints aboout this-r-that alel play into the decisions. CDT's are a different story. The #15 Steve put up looks like lineal micarta?? Maybe??
Here's one the shop will no longer do...
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 06:25 PM

If it is the "filth" and maybe not mixing the dust from the light and dark that makes a good reason. I knew there had to be a real reason and not some sort of out of the blue idea to just not do it.
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 06:32 PM

Capt C is that model 10 handle made out of your bone linen? I hope that is not one you can no longer get.
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 06:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
The #15 Steve put up looks like lineal micarta?? Maybe??

Yes, it is. Bought a slotted piece from Jim Behring, sent it to the Shop, and they used it on the knife. This is one of my favorite knives.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 08:38 PM

The Model #10-3", straight point is handled in white lineal micarta, a handle material that the shop no longer accepts for Model #10's. My bone linen is totally cool and the shop loves it.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 09:03 PM

Capt C,
I could not tell for sure in the picture if that was the bone linen or not. I would like to get. 10-3 in bone linen from you sometimes.. Thanks old guy. PS I just sent you a email.
Posted by: JE6245

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 09:08 PM

So, there's a problem with ivorite? Filthy? If it's a problem material, why does RMK use it at all? Cap'n I think I need to change a recent order.

Jim E.
Posted by: Billy Poyner

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 09:33 PM

Oldguy,
I have 10-3SP DP and 10-5 in the bone linen you will be happy you did.Also a triathelete and some lager ones also....

Jim E,
I have several in ivorite.I don't know if is causes the shop any problems but the look great.

Billy Poyner
RKCC CM 021 RKS 5030
NRA Endowment
MM
SO MOTE IT BE
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 09:48 PM

Billy, I have wanted a 10-3 in the bone linen since the first time I seen a picture of one. I would also like to see how that stuff would look on a model 25 type handle.
I see you see you are from Southaven. I have been there before and stayed a couple of days there.oldguy
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 10:48 PM

The shops main problem with the white handle materials is that most of the materials out there do have some sort of "dirty" abnormalities in them, or god-awful smells and dust. It's a no-win situation for us...if they are real bad, we end of ripping the handles off and starting over, losing a lot of valuable time. If it is a customers material, we are not responsible for the final outcome...right?...wrong...we are still looked on as we put an inferior product on our knives. One customer sells the knife to another and eventually someone asks why would the shop even bother to use these handle materials in the first place...
We have developed a few white, off-white and even Antique gold color materials with our suppliers, unfortunately, for some reason or another, when we go to reorder, the formulas have changed or have been discontinued, (as in the AGM). We seem to have hit a homer with our present-day Ivorite, and can just pray that the materials stay true to the way they look for us now. Hope this helped this discussion a little...

---DW---
Posted by: Billy Poyner

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/08/14 11:38 PM

Oldguy,
I have bone linen on a 1-7 12-6 LLB Stanaback Special & Sgts.
Don't have it on anything with a 25 handle yet!!!!
You get back in my part of the world give me a holler.You Kenkan and Me will share a meal.

Billy Poyner
RKCC 021 RKS 5030
NRA Endowment
MM
SO MOTE IT BE
Posted by: Duke

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/09/14 12:39 AM

I have a Fireman that I love that Randall used a block of jade green G-10 slotted by Jim Behring....perfect & beautiful job done by the shop IMHO......biased, I know. And then a #15 Airman using a block of brown micarta from the same craftsman. I never heard any complaints from Randall & sure as heck none from me.
Posted by: Ronnie

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/09/14 02:02 AM

Steve that 15 CDT is one of the nicest Randall's I've seen in a long time. Just beautiful!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/09/14 06:26 AM

Ronnie,
I don't see Steve's #15,CDT...only the full, exposed tang #15 with a single hilt. Am I missing an attachment?
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Duke

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/09/14 07:20 AM

Thus my confusion, Capt. Chris , and really shouldn't have posted my obviously full, exposed tang Fireman; as is my #15 Airman that I didn't post. Sorry and remove the entire post if you want. Best to 'ya.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/09/14 08:02 AM

Nothing needs to be removed. On the contrary, photos help many folks in aiding with descriptions, even possible future orders. I just thought there had been a photo or 2 that I could not see.
Good topic, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Ronnie

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/09/14 08:35 AM

My mistake. I meant cut down guard.....single guard.
Posted by: JE6245

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/09/14 10:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Dirty_Water
The shops main problem with the white handle materials is that most of the materials out there do have some sort of "dirty" abnormalities in them, or god-awful smells and dust. It's a no-win situation for us...if they are real bad, we end of ripping the handles off and starting over, losing a lot of valuable time. If it is a customers material, we are not responsible for the final outcome...right?...wrong...we are still looked on as we put an inferior product on our knives. One customer sells the knife to another and eventually someone asks why would the shop even bother to use these handle materials in the first place...
We have developed a few white, off-white and even Antique gold color materials with our suppliers, unfortunately, for some reason or another, when we go to reorder, the formulas have changed or have been discontinued, (as in the AGM). We seem to have hit a homer with our present-day Ivorite, and can just pray that the materials stay true to the way they look for us now. Hope this helped this discussion a little...

---DW---


Thanks for clearing that up Scott. I obviously didn't know what the heck folks were talking about with the "filthy" comments about the ivorite. I like the stuff myself but then I don't really know squat about much of anything so it had me doubting my judgment on the stuff.

Jim E.
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/09/14 04:14 PM

Ronnie, I also have a single guard 15 with CDT.
(I don't mean to hijack this thread away from Ivorite.)
Posted by: Ronnie

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/09/14 08:20 PM

Nice but that other 15 has given me a hankering. It looks old school to me.
Thanks for the pictures.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/10/14 08:50 AM

Originally Posted By: oldguy
A picture of the reduced hilt Denmark Special would be good. Thank you. Oldguy

I have not forgotten you Oldguy. That knife's playing hide & seek in the safe, so far it's winning laugh
Posted by: romanum

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/02/14 10:14 PM

I will ask a new question/s about handle to change an ordered Model 14.

Same knife but changing details on handle. Can this be phone or written change required?

To term things with no misunderstanding, the tang will be a CDT. I would like full length tang with nut, but nut flush with handle end. Is this possible and what is it named?

Also would like plain maroon micarta, and no spacers and no metal on hilt. Must I have a hilt to have the nut on tang and perhaps spacers or are they optional and how to term for no misunderstanding.

I feel with age and hard use the spacers compress and stay compressed and would skip if able. And micarta plenty tough and damage no easier than nickel silver, almost.

Desired knife Model 14 stainless with nickel silver single guard, red maroon handle, flush tang nut in bare micarta and no spacers, a worker bee.

If neccessity, would do same with all black spacers and nickel silver hilt with flush nut

Thank you for help speaking Randallism.
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/03/14 12:03 AM

It's easier to "talk" via e-mail than on the phone. We don't have to write things down when we are "talking" via e-mail, plus the e-mail provides a paper trail to clear up what was "said".

All my Randall customers order by e-mail unless I am at a show. Then, if there are any changes OR if someone forgot to make a change, the original order approved by the customer is evidence of the finished product.

A paper trail is far better than, "did he mean this or...?"

Regarding your model 14, I'll let the Captain decide the best arrrangement on your order.

Hope this helps,
Posted by: romanum

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/03/14 05:58 PM

Thank you for reply. I am trying to avoid calling or emailing little and busy Randall shop and only seeking the exact words I should write/say/email to them so no confusion or wasted time at their end.
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/03/14 09:49 PM

If you don't hear from the Captain soon enough here on your inquiry, call him at (407) 436-1113, or send an e-mail to him at CAPTSTANABACK@aol.com/

If language is a problem, call him and ask him to look at your request on the "Randall "ordering questions", and answer you by posting on the Forum.

When I have a question, I call him first before calling the Shop. I called him three times on Tuesday on different orders from customers prior to sending in my next blade list for delivery in March 2015. He is really outstanding.

The Shop probably gets at least 100 calls every work day from all over the world.

Hope this helps,

Buck
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/04/14 11:43 AM

Regarding the "tang nut", it is normally installed only in conjunction with a butt cap. On the leather washer handle, the nut is on top of the butt cap. On any other handle like stag, wood, or micarta, the nut is recessed in the butt cap.

If you order a CDT model like a #14 or #15, fitted with micarta, and no butt cap, there's no need for the nut, exposed or recessed. The epoxy bonds the micarta to the steel tang.

You state that you want "no spacers and no metal on hilt." The red-white-blue spacers, of course, are both patriotic and free. In lieu of that combination, you can have either all-red or all-black spacers, also free.

You will have to ask the Capt as to whether the spacers can be omitted completely from your order. If so, you would have to state that no spacers requested.

Your "Worker Bee" order (with spacers) submitted would be:
Model 14- CDT (M14-CDT) @ $ 380.00
Stainless Steel (SS) @ $ 65.00
Nickel-Silver Hilt-Single (NS1) @ $ 25.00
Maroon micarta ( MM2). @ $ 50.00
All-Black Spacers (all-black sp) @ $ N/C
Total with spacers @ $ 520.00

I have sold thousands of Randall's since 1975, and never had a micarta handle separate from the blade.

At the top of this forum page is a Model 15-CDT with green micarta, single brass hilt, aluminum & black spacers, a border patrol handle shape, and a wrist thong.

You have three chargeable options already, SS, NS1 & MM2, out of five maximum options. If you want to add $50.00 to your knife order total, you could add the "Border Patrol Handle (BPH) @ $25.00 and the "Wrist Thong" (WT) @ $25.00, making your total order, $ 570.00. The Border Patrol Handle is second in demand to the standard grip on the model 14.

Hope this helps.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/04/14 12:28 PM

OK:
You "must" accept the fact that spacers (5 of them) will be used. As Buck already stated, red, white & blue, all red or all black are you color choices. No butt"nut", exposed or otherwise, without a butt "cap". Red micarta is unavailable on a #14 CDT. Maroon? Yes! I hope this helps. There are a variety of ways to configure this knife. Let us know if you have any questions.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: romanum

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/04/14 02:52 PM

Thanks to you both for such help, and I am only sorry it is already a direct order needful of change, otherwise i would be placing with you. Next order I promise.

I have a Border Patrol handle and it fits hand most wonderful. But for me the rounded squared top hurts hand with hard blows while round Model 18 or teardrop Model 5 a joy
I work with metal and highest grade adhesive epoxies and see what happens to both with nasty environment, so prefer the clamping of nut to remove an possible shear movement to glue which then should truly last forever and not only fifty or 70 years. Personal choice for heirs on a very used knife.

I have seen many pretty knives here looking, and the maroon and black spacers and nickel silver hilt and cap one of prettiest when not going natural handle and engraved.
Thank you again for information and I thank you.for shop and saved time on call or email
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/31/14 08:19 AM

Captain:

Is it possible to pay the shop to remove the Top Quillon from an existing Randall?

Have a Model 1 that I would like to turn into a Model 5 so to speak.

If the Shop won't do it, will Mr. Behring do this kind of work?

Thanks.

Doug
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/31/14 11:00 AM

Send it to me...I'll get it done. I have some work to send to James anyway. FYI (For "everyone"s" information) the Randall shop will not alter the knives, once completed. They are 4 years behind, 2(+) months behind on scheduled delivery time and they (quite simply) don't have the time.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/31/14 12:25 PM

Thanks Captain!

Doug
Posted by: pappy19

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/05/15 01:09 PM

Can I get a #3-6 with a #6 grind?

Pap
Posted by: rodbrown

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/05/15 04:02 PM

Mike
Sticking my nose where it does not belong, I would say yes. You can get a Model 7 with a 6 grind, so I would say you could get a Model 3. BUT I have been wrong, but not for the last 3 minutes.

After using Mitchell's search "tool" he talked about for this forum, I was wrong, wrong, wrong. Here is an answer the Capt stated a few years ago, with someone asking about a Model 3 with a 6 grind.

Mike,
Yes I have. Although they are not available at the present time, the Randall shop made them in the past. I don't know the exact amount, but it was certainly more than just one forging and went on for a period of time.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: pappy19

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/05/15 04:23 PM

Seems to me that it would have a similar grind as the new Filet model only a shorter blade. The grind on the filet looks the same as a #6 grind.

Pap
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/05/15 06:19 PM

Everyone:
The grind on the large filet "is" a #6 grind...It's a Model #6! The name of this grind is derived from the carving knife, i.e. Model #6. Also the #6-4 1/2" steak knife. Model #3's, especially 6" ones were forged and finished with the #6 blade shape and grind. No more!
Currently, besides the catalog models which contain some form or fashion of this grind (#22 and #10's for a couple of good examples), the optional grind can be had on:
* Model #7 (either in 4 1/2" or 5" blade lengths)
* Model #4-6"
* and don't forget the non-catalog "Denmark Special".
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Art DeCamp

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/06/15 09:14 AM

I am curious what the difference in current blade grind between #7-4 1/2"(with #6 grind); #6-4 1/2" and the Denmark Special blade grind are?

Art DeCamp
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 01/17/15 12:04 PM

A SS 7-4 1/2 and 6-4 1/2 are the same blades...the 6-4 1/2 just designates it a reduced nickel silver hilt. The Denmark is just a bitter wider blade.

---DW---
Posted by: romanum

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/03/15 08:17 PM

Just a thanks note to Captain and Buck on knife order #14 help. Change order official in hand.

Decide to use normal #1 hilt with less fat/small hand handle with CDT. Otherwise same. Stainless, nickel silver hilt, maroon micarta all black spacer and rounded nickel silver butt.

Was sad could not get black Model A from shop for this knife but Greg say he can do.

Still year and half to wait so no problem. Now to live that long.
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/05/15 04:35 PM

Captain:

For a Brad Angier model 5 sheath, which type of keeper strap would he have had and would the sheath have a hone pocket?

Thanks.

Doug
Posted by: pappy19

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/05/15 06:27 PM

Need to know how old the #5 is before getting a definitive answer. I think the older the knife, it's a little different. My 1975 version of the Brad had 2 keepers.

Pap
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/05/15 06:41 PM

Mike:

Will be new. Will try to get as close as new can be.


Doug
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/05/15 07:11 PM

Diagonal keeper strap and a 6" blade. You probably know the rest"
* Model 5-6"
* Carbon steel
* Nickel silver single hilt
* Squared top
* Black micarta handle
* Compass installed
(Can't remember if it had a wrist thong or not but mine would.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: I'd have a waxed Model "A" sheath, with hone pocket also...CCS
Posted by: Skeetdoc

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/05/15 07:50 PM

Thanks Captain!


Doug
Posted by: pappy19

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/07/15 11:22 AM

Yes, it does come with a wrist thong.
Posted by: Wally

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/11/15 11:00 PM

I'm guilty of not searching the whole forum, but its so much easier to ask a question when you know the Captain knows the answer... so...is getting a commando handle "flattened" from the shop do-able, like from the late 70s/early 80s?
Posted by: desert.snake

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/13/15 03:36 PM

I wonder how much it costs if cast hilt and butt cap of 925 silver?
As far as I know, the price of 1 gram on the stock exchange about 0.5-1$
Example, #21 reduced hilt + butt plate.
While not going to order in the near future, but are interested in who can do and ~order price.
I would be grateful for your advice smile
Posted by: tglassco

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/13/15 04:46 PM

I would imagine the cost of pure silver hardware has gone down a bit with the slide in silver prices but what you need to take under consideration is the primary cost has always been in the smelting, casting, milling and creating just the right piece for the shop to work with and those costs have not changed.
Posted by: desert.snake

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/13/15 05:41 PM

Thanks! I know the cost of work may be from 100 to 300% and
more of the price material and not even always depends
on the material. It's like a good jeweler, he can make a
beautiful engraving, that simple steel ring will be very
expensive.

I just guess it's about $ 1500-2000.
While this is only my assumption.

It would be desirable to know the opinion of those who real
ordered the knives with silver fittings or opinion dealers smile

Here, at the forum, I happened to see a couple of examples,
it looks really awesome!
Posted by: Ironworker

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/13/15 06:49 PM

Talk to the Capt. I just recieved a Gtr with his silver. He will be able to price the silver Walt
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/13/15 07:01 PM

Desert,
It's not that expensive....whoever it looks great!!..just like nickel silver....
I have a few with silver from Doug...I know the Capt started selling silver some time ago, however I've not heard much about it.
It does add weight....fyi...
from Doug:
Good Morning old friend. Alive and well here. Phone is 716 687-1334. Give me a call.
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/13/15 10:33 PM

Silver is rather expensive, a victim of labor/setup charges, etc. It averages about $275.00-$475.00 to have a Randall done in it, depending on exactly what you want done.
Walt: I like the way that GTR came out! Hope you like it.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: tomthbomb

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/14/15 12:16 AM

Quote:
It's not that expensive....whoever it looks great!!..just like nickel silver....

Rocky, to me with nickel silver the underlying copper color seems to show through. Could be just my eye but in photos it is more evident.
I have one Randall with sterling silver fittings (and ivory grin) and the difference is very noticeable when compared side by side. Of course I don't have a side by side photo to prove my case.whistle



Posted by: desert.snake

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/14/15 08:01 AM

Thanks Rocky, Capt.Chris and Tom smile
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/14/15 08:49 AM

Here are a couple shots of the 4 that I have. They are in a current state of tarnish, as they mostly stay put up. They currently give off the look of brass.
Tom, you are right about nickel silver...I was just joking around about the cost involved.
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/26/15 10:54 PM

Originally Posted By: desert.snake
I wonder how much it costs if cast hilt and butt cap of 925 silver?
As far as I know, the price of 1 gram on the stock exchange about 0.5-1$
Example, #21 reduced hilt + butt plate.
While not going to order in the near future, but are interested in who can do and ~order price.
I would be grateful for your advice smile


I've been around all types of silver and gold "product" over 35 years working as a bench jewelry repairman & diamond setter. An additional 5 years working at a large scrap precious metals firm buying millions of dollars per MONTH of sterling silver and scrap gold items.

With all this experience, I think you'd be disappointed with a sterling silver hilt and pommel. Just too soft in my opinion for any reasonable task a "user" knife is asked to perform.

I can tell you I would pay reasonable money (maybe $150.00) additional to have a STAINLESS STEEL single hilt and pommel, now that I've had an opportunity to see first hand the benefits to be had on a working, or serious fighting knife.

My recent purchase, and post of the "rehab" of the Randall Model 1-7 "Kit" knife, arrived with just those features, .....and I love it! I suspect a double hilt in stainless would stay intact much better than any brass, nickle, and worst of all sterling silver hilts.

A stainless pommel offered the ability to drive wooden or plastic tent stakes, or crack walnuts or chestnuts with abandon. Regarding a proper "attitude adjuster,..... you'll find nothing better!:D

Drop a sterling hilt and pommel knife, and the finger guard WILL readily BEND as well as gouge and dent. A sterling silver pommel will probably not "bend" from a drop on a hard surface, but you'll be surprised at how DEEP the dent and gouges will be.

It won't be too hard to clean it up, (the softness of the metal a definite help here), but you'll have to remove a lot of metal to even it all up. Drop it a few too many times and you;ll need to replace the parts for a decent look.

Nope,...if you can get a custom made stainless steel hilt and pommel,....."Just DO IT!"

cheers,
Joe T




Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/26/15 10:56 PM

.....and here's one for Captain Chris....

.....do you know if a Randall 28 Woodsman can be special ordered (I'd go through you :-),....with a stainless steel single hilt, NO false upper edge ground in, a straight downward main grind such as on the Model 1 (just NO upper grind at all, just the usual tapering blade width),....

....AND little to NO choil area cut in????

Seems to me this would be a best seller configuration better handling woodsman chores.

The stainless hilt would be preferred but I could live without it. The grind changes not so much. laugh

cheers,
Joe T
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/26/15 10:58 PM

I got this...

No, no, no and NO....

---DW---
Posted by: tunefink

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/26/15 11:01 PM

Joe,

I am sure the Cap will comment as well, but I can assure you the answer is no. The shop has a 4+ year back log and is running 3 months behind on current orders.

Adding custom work would probably not improve either...
Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/26/15 11:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Dirty_Water
I got this...

No, no, no and NO....

---DW---


Thanks for your response, but other than custom making a stainless hilt, can you explain WHY it's a "no" to leaving OFF an added labor step? (upper false edge grind)

It's LESS work but I'd pay a premium! This makes a stronger upper edge, and doesn't dig into a light baton as readily. (I haven't ruled out the possibility of my grinding off the false edge on my personal Model 28 "user", to widen the surface area and make it less likely of the blade spine to dig into a light wooden baton,... but even that doesn't get me where I'd like to be.

Also, as a practical matter, providing a straight lower, even main grind is LESS effort than all various angles of the usual grind coming together.

I know this can be tricky. On my current Model 28, where the side flat areas meet the main grind, they are "off" in symmetry by about 1/2 inch in length. This seems a bit more than what is probably usual, but of course doesn't affect performance in any way. It does show these are trickier to grind than they need to be. laugh

About the only thing I can think of for all these "no's, is that Randall does not want to create "rarities" in one sense.

If this is the reason, it seems a rather short sighted argument for what are practical improvements in actual field performance capabilities for the woodcraft crowd, not to mention an easier to baton smaller wood pieces with. (I think Randall doesn't approve batoning and voids warranties on such things?) And as a general "survival knife" has added desirability in my view.

YMMV laugh



Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/26/15 11:34 PM

Originally Posted By: tunefink
Joe,

I am sure the Cap will comment as well, but I can assure you the answer is no. The shop has a 4+ year back log and is running 3 months behind on current orders.

Adding custom work would probably not improve either...


I understand the time constraints and backlogs,....but NOT how doing LESS grind work increases the effort to produce a particular knife?

That said, a thought comes to mind,..... I know folks can submit their own handle material and Randall will install it. (but not guarantee it) That said I "could" hand cut out a stainless steel single hilt, with final opening left a little small for final fit at the shop. I'm not sure if this would be a possibility, but see no difference from customer supplied handle material,....... or other parts such as hilts??

Just thinking out loud here, but it's just this kind of thing that prompts me to make changes to my personal "users", if said changes improve the performance for my needs and wants. (like the Model 26 Pathfinder I thinned the blade on to .14 inch tapering to .1 inch at the tip)

BTW, the 4 year backlog can be shortened drastically by getting in on a dealer's spot placed much earlier. (was my understanding delivery can be about 6 months this way?)

In any case, I didn't expect they would do it, only that they "could" do it.

Imagine,...producing a popular model variation that folks might pay $100 MORE for, but take less effort to produce......

.....ummmm,.....seems a business home run to me. laugh
Posted by: tunefink

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/26/15 11:49 PM

Joe, I understand the dealer program.....very well. That does not change the fact that the shop still has a four year backlog with the monthly dealer allocations factored in.

The shop makes hundreds of knives per month.... if all were "one offs", that would be very difficult to control.

You talk about the shop being short sighted.... odd for a company that's been around since the 1930's and is in it's third generation of family operation.

You may be on the right path for you....buy a Randall and alter it to suit your needs.
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 12:00 AM

Joe,

Ordering through a dealer, like me, does shorten the waiting time for the customer, but not the shop's workload.

We dealers are allocated so many spaces for specific date deliveries. If all the spaces are taken up with customer orders and the dealer's own "on demand" inventory, then the potential customer has to wait for the next open space to materialize.

The Shop is labor-intensive, obviously. If three men are out of work due to the flu or some malady, the workload is still there and the schedule is affected.

Right now, the Shop is running two months behind posted delivery dates for dealers orders for cut-down tang knives (model 1, model 2, sporting models, Bowies, etc.) and three months behind posted delivery dates for full-tang knives (model 14, 15, 16, 17, 28, etc.).

The Shop does what it can with its crew. Remember, they lost 3 very fine craftsmen to retirement, 40 years for each man! Show me another line of work where folks are willing to spend twice as many years on the job with such excellence in workmanship.

Some customers like to order directly from the Shop and wait four or five years. Their advantage is being locked into the price in the year they order the knife, and gives them that long to pay off the order.

Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 01:13 AM

Originally Posted By: tunefink
Joe, I understand the dealer program.....very well. That does not change the fact that the shop still has a four year backlog with the monthly dealer allocations factored in.

The shop makes hundreds of knives per month.... if all were "one offs", that would be very difficult to control.

You talk about the shop being short sighted.... odd for a company that's been around since the 1930's and is in it's third generation of family operation.

You may be on the right path for you....buy a Randall and alter it to suit your needs.



Hi, I was not talking "short sighted" in a general business sense. If you go back you'll see I was saying "IF" all the "no's to blade grind preference changes (with less production efforts), was because Randall does not want to create "rarities", then THAT would be a short sighted view.

Short sighted in that if it became a popular grind, and you could get a premium for the option with less labor expended to produce, .....and had real practical benefits in the field,.....then the possibility of it not being done to avoid producing a rarity would be moot!

It's not rare IF there are a LOT of them being ordered and sold! laugh Hope you better understand what I meant.

Overall, Randall's product demand and order backlog demonstrate a great business sense.

But in one real way the building of the Randall backlog is the direct result of many buyers simply collecting various models and examples, often many multiples of the same model. (I'm partial to the 26 Pathfinder, I have 3 currently, but it's not everything I'd prefer in some respects for my tastes)

Many of those collectors never actually use even ONE example. Such a shame really, but seems to me that's the main reason for the backlog.
I don't begrudge the collector, btw, as they often become sellers when switching direction or thinning the herd and guess what,.....no 5 year wait!

That alone is worth every additional penny spent to get what you want in a few days, especially for us older enthusiasts. I'm almost 59 now,...so do I want to wait 5 years for an order? NO WAY! I could be in a wheelchair, or god forbid,..."dead on arrival" (of my order spot coming up )

As a logical thinker I find it difficult to understand a "no" to a request to leave some labor steps out, yet get paid the same (or more for). A workman gets an order for a blade,....and a note is added to "leave OFF the false edge entirely, with a Model 1 style lower grind". Seems pretty simple......

I worked most every day for 35 years in making and repairing jewelry. For 8 of those years I worked 7 days a week except the 3 days a year the Mall I worked then was closed. (Easter, Thanksgiving, and Christmas) I took no vacation, and 65-70 hour weeks were the norm for me. Two weeks before Christmas I worked 95-100 hour weeks!

Boy is that tiring.....work 15 hours and sleep, work 15 and sleep, repeat to your next day off,....2 weeks out...... laugh (I usually slept in at least 15 hours until mid afternoon on Dec 25th.)

Instructions were provided to add this head to a ring blank and to set that diamond, and size the ring to a certain size.

When an engagement ring order came thru to not size the ring as it fit fine, do you really think it slowed production because I had to do LESS work on the item by NOT sizing it?

Quite the opposite in fact, and Randall's backlog might even go down a month or two with the labor savings,.... not to mention less wear and tear on grinding belts. Not an insignificant amount either, as you're saving almost a THIRD of the surface area of the total current grind. So belts get an extended life by about a third on making up this model blade configuration...... laugh

I guess that's what I'll never get,.....It simply makes NO sense to say "no" sometimes. Rules should be there for a REASON, not just because you want a rule that says no.

I really don't want to beat a dead horse here, but I think I've shown that there are REAL labor AND material savings presented with what I've described. These savings to Randall's materials and labor costs should not be wholly rejected, simply because it's easier to say "no".

Someday I'll locate a suitable "broken tip" Randall blade that I can rework to my preference. A carbon steel model 1-6 or 1-7 with 1-2 inches broken off the tip might do, as I'd like to end up around 4 to 4-1/2 inches of usable blade length. I just don't have the heart to chop up a useable factory setup example.

If anyone out there has something like that in their closet,....give me a holler. laugh
Posted by: oldguy

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 01:25 AM

Joe, the reason behind the No on the blade grind is that the catalog says No in the questions and answer section. Now what lead to that policy I don't know but thats what the catalog says. I ask about getting a Model 25 with out the thumb notches and was told no. oldguy
Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 01:40 AM

Originally Posted By: oldguy
Joe, the reason behind the No on the blade grind is that the catalog says No in the questions and answer section. Now what lead to that policy I don't know but thats what the catalog says. I ask about getting a Model 25 with out the thumb notches and was told no. oldguy


I hear ya,....makes no sense to me either, but I guess you can figure out how to arrive at a Model 25 without thumb notches???? laugh

I guess I've always known the answer was no, (with no real explanation given)_....which is why I've had no qualms about making changes in a blade to better meet my preferences.

I actually owned FOUR model 25's at one time, all with premium grained dark wonder stag (I sought them out years ago),....but never used mine and sold them off more than a year or maybe 2 years ago.

I prefer a 4" to 4-1/2" blade to carry regularly, and the model 25 on the long side of that, with a wider blade. My recent 1-7 Kit knife doesn't fit that size preference, but it's been growing on me for it's other qualities. laugh

Thanks for all your thoughts on this subject guys. Not what I'd hoped for but not your fault either. I will survive just the same. laugh

cheers,
Joe T

PS......there is a bit of work I plan to do this spring on my thinner blade model 26. You can do a lot with a flexible shaft machine, a fine and extra fine grit stone 1 inch diameter cutoff discs, a fine grit rubber wheel, and a 2" muslin polishing wheel. An example of what I mean below. (was just the 2nd knife I tried)

This is the smallest knife that I've added vine-work jimping along the spine. (a tiny Buck 55 locking folder that I also removed the false edge to even the spine for a cleaner look)

I found basic shaping instruction on the net, and got to work. Other than scratching off evenly spaced starting points with a set of dividing calipers, all work was cut freehand (slowly) using a 2.5X magnifying headband.



Pretty small to work,...yes! Toughest on the eyes though, for the 2+ hours required. I did this one a few years ago. It always resides in a leather snapped pouch on my belt every day. Holds my ID, credit cards,some emergency cash, and this handy little bugger.



Posted by: Ronnie

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 02:42 AM

Very nice work Joe.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 07:09 AM

I think we have stayed on this subject long enough, particularly in this topic area. The purpose for having the ordering questions topic is/was to help answer questions and reduce calls to the Randall shop. The "question" has been answered. "Probilities" and "what ifs" are excellent topics..."BUT"...(I know: There's that word again)...please add a new thread to this Randall "main forum"...or in "sharp talk".
Thanks, Capt. Chris
PS: Something that I will add is that no one has thought about possible labor time "delays", in the forge, by stopping standard Model #28 forgings to "change" the blade configuration. Adding a new model probably is not in the future and the "Woodsman" sells like hotcakes, just the way it is!
CCA
Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 11:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
I think we have stayed on this subject long enough, particularly in this topic area. The purpose for having the ordering questions topic is/was to help answer questions and reduce calls to the Randall shop. The "question" has been answered. "Probilities" and "what ifs" are excellent topics..."BUT"...(I know: There's that word again)...please add a new thread to this Randall "main forum"...or in "sharp talk".
Thanks, Capt. Chris
PS: Something that I will add is that no one has thought about possible labor time "delays", in the forge, by stopping standard Model #28 forgings to "change" the blade configuration. Adding a new model probably is not in the future and the "Woodsman" sells like hotcakes, just the way it is!
CCA


I'll be brief here but don't really understand your point??? Nothing I suggested involves "stopping" anything done in the forging step. The rough shaped blade comes out of there as usual. The change would be at the grinder's bench, to NOT do something,...(cut in the false edge), and adding a simpler straight main grind. This comes much later after many clean up and shaping steps.

So I don't think not putting in a false edge can be argued as additional labor in changing the blade configuration? At least that's the way I understand it???

And yes,...I imagine it already is a great seller, with the thinner 3/16" blade stock AND especially the full tang the reason, IMO. There is a reason even thinner blade stock (usually 1/8") is used on bushcraft knives,...they are plenty strong to baton, and they SLICE so easily. Physics "ain't" wrong. Love to see a forged Randall "bushcrafter" some day, scandi anyone?....not in my lifetime. laugh (I'm 58)

cheers,
Joe T
Posted by: desert.snake

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 12:24 PM

Joe T, already have an appropriate knife - Fireman special.
Enough to make more subtle spine, more handles options and blade length.
I wrote to the RMK store, I was told that this is not possible.

Regards,
Posted by: JE6245

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 02:53 PM

X
Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 03:41 PM

Deleted to keep the peace. laugh

cheers,
Joe T
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 05:24 PM

"If you haven't read it before you made this slam, then perhaps reading comprehension is not one of your strong points and should be added to your "bucket list". Neither is submitting a post with nothing worthwhile to contribute.

....but the cheap shot put me off that plan,....sorry Captain Chris."



I'm confused on what constitutes a "cheap shot", but we're getting off the topic. Maybe remarks should be a "PM" to someone. instead of insults on the forum.

The topic is the Randall Shop's policy on adding something that is not available within their parameters.

There are individual knifemakers that would build you a knife exactly to your specifications and designs, and that solution that is available to you.
Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 05:45 PM

Fair enough Buck,....

I'm ready to let it go.....maybe I'll feel better with a cup of coffee down the hatch.

cheers,
Joe T
Posted by: JE6245

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 07:45 PM

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Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 08:00 PM

This is "directed" to absolutely no one, in particular, but keep this thread to "ordering" questions and responses. That is it's intent. We have a "bad lounge" for venting.
Thanks, Capt. Chris
Posted by: JE6245

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 08:16 PM

X
Posted by: oldguy

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 09:46 PM

Capt Chris, do you know how much longer the shop will be offering the red and blue micarta as a handle option? Thanks oldguy
Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 10:58 PM

x
Posted by: JE6245

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 11:10 PM

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Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 11:28 PM

I do not know just how much of the handle material they have left. That will be the determining factor.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 11:34 PM

Capt C , Thanks, I heard it was in short supply. Maybe the shop will get more or is it a "when it's gone it's gone" deal. oldguy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/27/15 11:56 PM

I do not think it will be re-ordered.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Wally

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/28/15 12:48 AM

Cap I think you missed a question I had about handles, if you order a commando handle with no butt plate or any other option, can it be "flattened" or thinned? (Micarta, I mean)
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/28/15 08:33 AM

To the best of my knowledge, no. I have an old #2-6 that is "slab-sided", but that is no longer an option. I think the same is true with request for special butt cap shaping.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/29/15 03:39 PM

A question came to mind regarding the Model 10-3, that I'm sure I'm not the only one with this issue of sorts.

Can this model be ordered with either, or both,... a "little" longer handle length, or fatter micarta slab sides? If not, can it be ordered without any finger guard cutout, which would help in my case?

Some specifics as to why I ask.....

I have a tough time getting a good grip on mine, as my example has just a 3-1/4 inch total micarta handle length. Is this pretty standard, or do they vary? (another 1/4" would have been great :-)

Also, the handle would fit my hand better if it were a just little thicker, but I can probably go that route myself. Extra "meat" to grab onto would certainly help, and would improve the fit to my sheath also. Working so close to the fine edge would improve my confidence in maintaining a good grip, especially near water. (it's intended use)

My 10-3 arrived with a neat Style B sheath with snap enclosure. The snap position was a bit loose originally, and I thought of sending it out to Sullivan's to fit a bit tighter strap.

However, I fit a small piece of leather between the back of the strap and the front part of the belt loop. (just tucked and and easily removed) This effectively shortens the strap length enough for a secure lock up of the knife. (this might be useful on other style B sheathed knifes as your strap stretches over time, and you can add thicker inserts as later needed :-)

There is obviously a huge difference in handle dimensions between this 3" version and the standard handles of the 5" and 7" versions.

As this is the only model 10-3 I've ever handled, maybe they do vary in handle length / overall thickness of the micarta a little? (especially over the years in the various grind incarnations???)

To benefit those thinking of ordering one,....can this model be ordered with "fatter" micarta slabs installed,? or maybe 1/4" added to the handle length?

I have average style hands, but I know I'd use this neat design much more if I could get a bit better grip on it.

For most women, this is probably a great fit as is.
Posted by: Neale_Jenkinson

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/29/15 04:57 PM

I'm pretty sure the answer to your questions will be no,why not order a Tri Athlete and get micarta slabs of your choice/size fitted by another knifemaker,problem solved.
Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/29/15 07:07 PM

That is an option, of course,...but as a practical matter I've paid for and own the 10-3 :-)

.....and my newer grind style 10-3 is kinda cute!
Posted by: Billy Poyner

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/29/15 07:18 PM

Joe,
Pull up knife of the week model 10.
That will give you a lot of ideas for 10's..
Page 3 will get you there.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/29/15 09:54 PM

Joe,
There have been several questions and "what-ifs" posted by you. Judging by your re-vamped Randalls, I would take you for the kind of guy that, no matter what catalog options are available, you would want something else.
Neal is correct. The answer is, once again, no to your modification changes.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: Can't wait to see how your Model #10 turns out. Be sure to show us some pics!
CCS
Posted by: JE6245

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/30/15 02:26 PM

Captain -- Back to the red & blue micarta, is this a chargeable option on a knife that comes standard with a micarta handle like a Model 10, 14, 22, etc.? That is, if I wanted a 10-5, for example, with a red & blue micarta handle would that cost more than a 10-5 with black micarta? Thanks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/30/15 06:33 PM

RBM is not available on either a #10 or #14. #22 is doable and I think it is an additional $10, verses black micarta.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Joe Tousignant

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/31/15 09:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
Joe,
There have been several questions and "what-ifs" posted by you. Judging by your re-vamped Randalls, I would take you for the kind of guy that, no matter what catalog options are available, you would want something else.
Neal is correct. The answer is, once again, no to your modification changes.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: Can't wait to see how your Model #10 turns out. Be sure to show us some pics!
CCS


You're probably right there CC :-)

However, as someone who I know has handled MANY Model 10-3's with all the various blade and handle changes over the years, have you noticed any one "era's" production that tended to produce an average thicker stock handle?

.....I only have my recent vintage to go by, and I'm not sure if even there some examples are noticeable thicker than others?

If or when I make a handle change on mine, I'll be sure to post the pics. laugh

cheers,
Joe T
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/01/15 07:23 AM

All Randall models, from forging to forging, have the possibility to be slightly different. My most recent Model #10-5" appears to be smaller than my last. The scales are more "rounded". #10's are not forged and stay more consistant than other models. I had 2 pieces of handle material rejected, this past month alone. due to being over-sized.
The shop is quite specific on material and sizing allowed for each and every model. You won't notice very much of change...just slight change.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: LarryWW1246

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/02/15 09:16 AM

Capt. Chris--

A couple of thoughts...

On a slab handle knife like the Model 10 which involves a pouch sheath (i.e., RMK's "cover sheath"), I would think that any handle that is too thick for the standardized sheath would pose a problem.

For a maker who makes each sheath to fit on a specific knife that would not be a problem, but for those who make a standard knife and make their sheaths independently of the individual knife--probably couldn't get a thicker handle into the sheath.

Larry
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/02/15 05:38 PM

True Larry..."BUT"...the example (recent) that I am referring to had more rounded slabs. It fit the sheath well...perhaps ever so slightly looser than standard. The overall "thickness" remained the same, it was just less proud, tapering to the tang.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: jclarksnakes

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/09/15 12:48 PM

Two quick questions? Price of optional brass and colored or aluminum and colored spacers? Cost of polishing if you order a stag handle knife? TIA.
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/09/15 11:20 PM

$ 20.00 for either
Aluminum & black or aluminum & red spacers
or
Brass & black or brass & red spacers.


Not clear what you're asking about charge for polishing stag.
If you mean removing the "bark" off the stag to create "bald stag", its available on only one model.

If you mean polishing the stag to a "gleaming" condition, Captain Chris will have to answer that.

Hope this helps.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/10/15 06:37 AM

"Polished stag", or dressed down stag is still available in model 25 handles only.

---DW---
Posted by: jclarksnakes

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/10/15 01:19 PM

Thanks to both of you for the information. Yes I am asking about the price for dressed down stag on 25 style handles. I have a couple of them to sell.
Posted by: jclarksnakes

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/10/15 02:06 PM

One more question? How much does the shop charge for building a handle with customer supplied material?
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/10/15 08:41 PM

Customer-provided wood/material (such as micarta, figured[fiddle-back]maple/walnut, & ebony, etc) is subject to quote.

$25.00 minimum on all handles when standard configuration is RMK stag, micarta, etc. i.e. model #8, #21, #24, #26, #14, #15.

$75.00 usual maximum.

So, between $25 and $75, subject to quote from Randall.
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/12/15 02:13 PM

Can a Model #5 with a tear drop handle shape be ordered with a butt cap too?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/14/15 11:52 PM

$85.00 charge for exotics, i.e. fossil walrus, musk ox, mammoth, etc.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/15/15 05:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
$85.00 charge for exotics, i.e. fossil walrus, musk ox, mammoth, etc.
Capt. Chris


Mammoth?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/15/15 08:35 PM

Yes: Mammoth is still "doable".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Chief

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/15/15 08:47 PM

we or shop supplied? Mammoth tooth is awesome!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/15/15 09:10 PM

Customer-supplied material "only".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/15 08:27 PM

Is the Sawteeth No Sawteeth option available on a Model 15? oldguy
Posted by: Billy Poyner

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/15 08:48 PM

oldguy,
Thanks for asking that question.I have been wondering the same thing.I have a 15 with sawteeth.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/15 08:52 PM

Any knife with ST option is available with STN option...

---DW---
Posted by: oldguy

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/15 08:55 PM

Thank you Scott. oldguy
Posted by: oldguy

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/16/15 08:57 PM

I bet I can't get a CDT model 15 with STN can I? oldguy
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/17/15 05:16 PM

Yes sir!
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/17/15 08:46 PM

No, you cannot, ST is NOT an option that is avilable on the CDT's.

---DW---
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/18/15 10:19 PM

I noticed my "Yes Sir" was misplaced. It was supposed to answer Old Guy's question on the previous page.

Regrets.
Posted by: Jay G

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/20/15 04:10 PM

Is name etching an option on the Triathlete? If so, limited to one line?

Thanks in advance,

Jay
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/20/15 04:30 PM

Jay,
Blade etching on a Tri. is the same specs as minis: One line only, 18 characters total, including spaces, etc.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: JE6245

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/23/15 09:21 PM

Can you get a butt cap on a model 14 style handle with finger grips? Thanks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/23/15 09:27 PM

Yes you can Jim.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: JE6245

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/23/15 09:45 PM

Thanks!
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/23/15 10:29 PM

I'll let the Capt answer that one.

Check out the "Knives of The Week Models 1-28" thread, click on "Model 14".

There's 30 pages of information and photos. Lots of great possibilities.

However, just cause you see something from the past, doesn't mean that it is Kosher (available) today.
Posted by: JE6245

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/24/15 07:20 AM

Thanks Buck. Before I posted my question, I did take a look there at all of the 14s pictured but did not see any with a butt cap. However, many of the pictures are no longer available on the thread so there may have been some shown at some point in time.
Posted by: pyronaute

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/24/15 08:33 PM


I recently saw photos of two knives, an APFK & a Fireman; each had brass #14 style hilts. The APFK's hilt had holes in it as normally seen on a #18.

My questions:
1. Is this style hilt (with or without holes) still an option that can be ordered on knives other than #14, #15 & #18?
2. Can nickel silver be substituted for brass?
3. If the answer to questions #1 & #2 above is yes, what is the ordering shorthand, and what is the current cost?

Thanks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/24/15 09:12 PM

Brass or NS...Yes to both. Request (for instance) brass double hilt (#14 style).
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/03/15 10:18 PM

I saw a Model 15 "Camping" version that Lunde had posted in the Knife of the Week Model 15 thread. I am wondering if one more option is possible?

His #15 with Single Hilt (Nickel Silver with Squared Top), Thumb Notches, and White (Ivorite?) Micarta handle in Border Patrol shape.

To this list could I add the Bowie Clip Point?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/03/15 11:10 PM

I only counted "4" chargeable options so..."yes".
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/04/15 01:31 AM

OK, thank you. It was almost too pretty to use, and I was not aware you could get other colors of micarta besides green and black.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/04/15 01:55 AM

White or whatever...shop-supplied or customer-supplied...it still only counts as one option.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/04/15 08:39 AM

Originally Posted By: oldguy
Can you order a Denmark Special with a reduced hilt? Oldguy
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/04/15 01:47 PM

Mr. Mason, Thanks for the picture. oldguy
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/04/15 02:24 PM

Welcome, my pleasure. Sorry it took me so long to get it done !!
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 02:18 AM


Originally Posted By: Robert Frey
I saw a Model 15 "Camping" version that Lunde had posted in the Knife of the Week Model 15 thread. I am wondering if one more option is possible?

His #15 with Single Hilt (Nickel Silver with Squared Top), Thumb Notches, and White (Ivorite?) Micarta handle in Border Patrol shape.

To this list could I add the Bowie Clip Point?

ETA: I didn't notice at the time the SS blade was not listed in that post. So it already had 5 options.


Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
White or whatever...shop-supplied or customer-supplied...it still only counts as one option.
Capt. Chris


Crap! Just noticed the catalog says "(B-3) Ivorite: Available on small and medium knives and bowies, with the exception of the #12-11" Smithsonian. Not available on full-tang knives."

That must have been some customer supplied type of white micarta on the knife pictured on page 6 of the Knife of the Week Model #15 thread.

I'm not sure where to find CW white micarta cut for the full-tang #15. I just thought it would be real easy to find it, if I dropped it, if it had a super bright color.

It seems my only shop supplied choices for the #15 full-tang, are Green and Black Micarta to make a "Camping" model.

Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 09:02 AM

I have had some done, but it's an expensive undertaking. Yes: Green or Black micarta are the only "slotted" material available from the Randall shop.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: JE6245

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 10:07 AM

I'm not sure if the link below will work but there's Model 2-8 for sale on e-bay with what's being called a Model 14 hilt. Really gives the knife an interesting and different look. Is this a currently available option for the Model 2? Thanks.
(Disclaimer -- I don't know this seller and am not in any way trying to help him sell his knife.)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381253174332?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 11:37 AM

It is available @ a $30 addition.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 01:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
I have had some done, but it's an expensive undertaking. Yes: Green or Black micarta are the only "slotted" material available from the Randall shop.
Best, Capt. Chris


How expensive are you talking Capt. for some white, or other bright color?

With Dirty Waters' recent revelation of his love of Maroon Micarta, I'd think he'd lobby to add that to the slotted materials list. I would take that stuff too, I like the one I have with the Maroon Micarta. But, unless it is added, I'll have to use the Green Micarta.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 01:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert Frey
I just thought it would be real easy to find it, if I dropped it, if it had a super bright color.

Easy to find like this?
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 02:47 PM

Rob
I can find my model 15 easily
Peter
Posted by: Duke

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 03:38 PM

Peter,
What if you lay it down on your jeep?
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Michael_Mason
Originally Posted By: Robert Frey
I just thought it would be real easy to find it, if I dropped it, if it had a super bright color.

Easy to find like this?


Yeah, like that. Do you have a link for that?
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Peter_Kaufman
Rob
I can find my model 15 easily
Peter


I saw yours in that thread too, very nice. Where did you get your material from?
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 04:16 PM

Rob
I bought it from Steve Peters, I don't know who he got it from

I would think some of the Randall dealers would have some slotted G-10 in bright colors

Duke, I try to use black or green micarta knives with the Jeep smile

Peter
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 07:06 PM

this is the only white, slotted material that I have found, but I'm sure there is plenty more out there...just get to looking.
I would sure like to see it on a knife, if anybody has one.
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 09:27 PM

Not finding anything but a couple of Maroons, and a Natural slotted blank. If somebody knows of some out there, let me know.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/15 11:31 PM

I have over 250 slotted pieces. Most are allocated for my "projects".
Sorry, Capt. Chris
PS: Hint? Ever seen any slotted bone linen?
CCS
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/09/15 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
I have over 250 slotted pieces. Most are allocated for my "projects".
Sorry, Capt. Chris
PS: Hint? Ever seen any slotted bone linen?
CCS


Actually, no.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/09/15 01:14 AM

Neither have I...but I'm working on it.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/12/15 06:59 PM

Have you taken any pictures of Bone Linen handled knives in grass, or dirt and leaves to see how it stands out if you drop it and have to backtrack to find it?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/12/15 07:40 PM

Really? No. I don't know how this relates to "ordering questions"...but "no" I have not.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/12/15 08:06 PM

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood your post. It would be relevant as I was looking for material that would stand out in the woods. I thought you were telling me to wait for your Bone Linen to be available to serve this purpose.
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/24/15 05:30 PM

I tried a search, but came up empty.

What is the current up-charge for these various sheath options on say a Model 15?


Sheath with no hone pocket
Black sheath with no hone pocket
Waxed sheath
Waxed sheath with no hone pocket

Does it change with different models?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/24/15 07:01 PM

No charges are incurred when ordering "NHS" (No Hone Sheath).
Waxed: $10.00
Black: $30.00
Left hand is also an up charge of $10.00.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: Same charges, regardless of sheath model...CCS
Posted by: Doug74

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/22/15 11:58 PM

Can you please tell me if the following is doable and how many chargeable options are being used:

Randall 6-9 Filet Knife
Red/Blue Micarta-Commando Shaped Handle
Flanged Scalloped Brass Buttcap
Red/Brass Spacers
Brass Double Hilt
Wrist Thong

Thank you.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/23/15 08:47 AM

Yes it is.
Thanks, Capt. Chris
Posted by: jclarksnakes

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/23/15 11:03 AM

Five chargeable options?
Posted by: Doug74

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/23/15 11:08 AM

Originally Posted By: jclarksnakes
Five chargeable options?


I'm now pondering the following (but not sure if brass single hilt is a chargeable option):

6-9 Filet
Red/Blue Micarta
Finger Grips
Brass Single Hilt
Thin & Radiused Brass Butt
Red/Brass Spacers
Wrist Thong

Am I over my option limit on this one?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/23/15 12:46 PM

Brass single hilt is "good-to-go"! You have 5 other options...No worries.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Doug74

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/23/15 01:32 PM

Great...thank you.
Posted by: Gustaf Bäck

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/15 08:01 AM

Quick and simple question:

Would it be within reason and reality to have a cover sheath, (Model E in Randall catalogue) sheath made for my Model 3 5", with standard half guard?

It does outstanding service as a user knife, but I feel that it would be even better with an open sheath, maybe even a dangler?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/15 08:06 AM

I have several Randalls that I carry in pouch sheaths. The Randall shop does not offer pouch sheaths as a rule. Exceptions are:
* Model #25-5"
* #26
Most everything else would have to be ordered elsewhere.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/15 08:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Gustaf Bäck
Quick and simple question:
Would it be within reason and reality to have a cover sheath, (Model E in Randall catalogue) sheath made for my Model 3 5", with standard half guard?


Most definitely. Much easier to use than a Model A or B, particularly when you have a backpack on. I wish this option was available for more of the models than it is.
Great question !!!
Posted by: Gustaf Bäck

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/15 08:29 AM

Thank you gents!

Yes from a user/practical point of view it could be an improvement.

Obviously I want a nice leather sheath that is up to the quality of the knife, so I came here for some advice.

Would it be ok to ask here for advice concerning a third party sheath maker that is up to the task, or is that a topic for another forum?

Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/15 08:34 AM

Randall's authorized sheath maker is on this forum. Let's hang tight and see if he chimes in on this subject.
Posted by: Gustaf Bäck

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/15 08:43 AM

That is good news, hope to hear from him!
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/26/15 11:26 AM

Sulluvan's is closed till July 6th for vacation...
Posted by: Stikman

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/06/15 08:44 AM

We can do such a sheath , would need the knife to mold it and it would take 2-3 months.
Stikman
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/06/15 09:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Gustaf Bäck
That is good news, hope to hear from him!


Originally Posted By: Stikman
We can do such a sheath , would need the knife to mold it and it would take 2-3 months.
Stikman


Good news Gustaf smile smile
Posted by: Gustaf Bäck

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 07/06/15 11:50 PM

Hello Stikman!

I just sent you a PM.
Posted by: pyronaute

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/22/15 10:48 PM


Quick inquiry:
What is the current shop price for:
1. Tailor
2. Triathelete

Thanks!
Posted by: JE6245

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/23/15 01:59 PM

I bought a triathlete a few months ago and catalog for it was $270. Don't know about the tailor.
Posted by: BOB_TEATES

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/23/15 02:19 PM

Tailor is about $100.00.I got one in April from the shop.it was $107.02 and that included a sheath and Fla sales tax,but the price was from 5 years ago when ordered
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/23/15 03:31 PM

Jim is right. The Triathlete is $270 w/ boot-clip sheath.

The Tailor is $110.00 w/blade cover.
Posted by: pyronaute

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/23/15 07:47 PM


Thanks, all of you who answered my questions!
Posted by: Windsor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/18/15 10:25 PM

Hi everyone. Been lurking for a bit, recently received my first Randall -- Mini-27 (the early red/stag version). I had a fireman's model on order (direct from Randall) before I ordered the Mini-27 and I've put two (other knives) orders in since, obeying the once-per-quarter rule.

To the point of this thread, I have several questions. I'll start with the three-parter that's been nagging me the most....

I'm aware of N25 and B25 handle option codes (specified earlier in this thread).

With the new copper mini-27, is there now a "C25" option code?

part 2 of this question: is the "C25" option an available option on any other knife?

part 3: is copper (guard or butt-cap) available as a specified option on any knife?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/19/15 12:43 AM

Copper is only available on the copper mini and the Copper Companion. No options/ no exceptions.
Code is: #27-3 1/2" CTB (Copper Trailblazer)
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/09/15 08:43 AM

Capt, or anyone with correct knowledge...
I have a #7-5" on order from RMK...I'm trying to figure out if I need to send them 1"x1"x4-1/2" or 1-1/8"x1-1/4"x4-3/4"....my idea, based upon the stat sheet I have, would call for the latter, however it is 3/16" stock, so I was wondering
Thanks
:-)Rocky
Posted by: rodbrown

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/09/15 10:35 AM

Rocky

Hope this helps.

My guess, is make it the size of a 5" knife, even though they are 1/4" stock. My guess that that size is still acceptable to RMK. BUT I have been wrong before!!!

Rod
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/09/15 02:58 PM

Rocky,
Are you having any special handle shaping?
Capt. Chris
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/10/15 07:46 AM

No, none at all, standard handle shape.
Thanks Rod. I have that, but I still thought I found a "grey" area.
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/10/15 08:39 AM

1" x 1" x 4 1/2" is proper.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/11/15 07:55 AM

Thanks Capt

:-)Rocky
Posted by: 505Gibbs

New Randall "ordering" question - 09/17/15 03:29 PM

Tried the search function but didn't see much aid so . . .
since thumb notches are a chargeable option - what models[if any] do the notches come as part of the 'base' model?
Posted by: rodbrown

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/17/15 06:21 PM

Mike

Model 5 for sure. Having said that I have one or
two older 5's that have no thumb notches.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/17/15 06:28 PM

Standard equipment on:
* Model #5's (all blade lengths)
* Model #10's (All of them)
* Model #11's (All of them)
* Model #12-6" "LITTLE BEAR BOWIE"-(Only Bowie pertinent)
* Model #16-7", "DIVERS"
* Model #19
* Model #20
* Model #21
* Model #22
* Model #23
* Model #24 (tiny, but they're there)
* Model #25
* Model #28
* Model #6-9-"LARGE FILET" (Not the carver)
* "CHEFS"
* "SERGEANTS"
* "FIREMAN"
* "CATTLEMAN"
* "GAMBLERS" (large & small)
.............Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/17/15 07:34 PM

Add 6-4 1/2's, Stanaback Specials, AGRussell specials, Tailors and Triathletes...and, (but don't tell anyone), we now put them on 14 and 15 CDT's with single hilts as standard....
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/17/15 09:10 PM

TN aren't standard on a Stanaback Secial. I almost always order them but they are charged. (Unless something's changed?)
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/17/15 09:21 PM

I guess I have just never seen one without them...
Posted by: rodbrown

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/17/15 09:35 PM

Geeez you two newbies to RMK!!
Posted by: 505Gibbs

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/17/15 09:57 PM

THANK YOU - to all the respondents!!!! cool
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/17/15 10:00 PM

Clash of the titans !
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 04:32 PM

No clash here...Cap deals with office protocol, whereas, I just read a bladelist and act accordingly... we don't need to read t/n for a Stanaback Special cause we just know....
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 05:22 PM

The only time (That I can remember) that I "didn't" request thumb notches was when I built one of my specials with a double hilt! The nice thing about my dealer special is that we are not limited to 5 options. In comparison (and compared to catalog options for the Model #3, which my original specials were priced by) here's the RKCC "Double-Duty" club knife. Can you figure out how many options?
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 05:29 PM

Capt's got a couple pounds on you anyway, I think.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 06:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
Can you figure out how many options ?

8
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 06:49 PM

1. Stainless Steel. SS
2. Nickel-Silver Hilt single. NS1
3. Aluminum & Black Spacers. ASP
4. Customer-Supplied Handle Material. CW
5. Finger Grips. FG
6. Wrist Thong (Hole). WT
7. Compass Installed. CI
8. Etching - One Line. ET1
Posted by: JerryG

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 07:19 PM

Is the Stanaback special available in O1? My guess is no, but what do I know??
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 07:24 PM

Originally Posted By: JerryG
Is the Stanaback special available in O1?

Was originally available in 01, but I believe they are all SS now.
Posted by: JerryG

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 07:28 PM

That's what I thought. So 7 options then??
Posted by: LarryWW1246

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 08:03 PM

Nine options, Capt. Chris.

I have not read all the other "entries" but as far as I read the respondent who said "8" did not include the Notches.

Larry

P.S.: Looking back, that was a famous Randall Dealer--just goes to show that we can all overlook these details!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 09:38 PM

The question was: How many options, based on a Model #3, which is how my original design and billing was figured. Ya'll ain't even "close"!!
Also: Original Stanaback Specials were 4" blades, out of 1/4" stock, in "stainless only"!
Later on (about 89 or 90: 4 or 5 years into it) I requested some 4 5/8" blades, forged in carbon steel. They didn't sell well and we (GTR & I) agreed to forego anymore forgings..."BUT"...(I know. There's that word again)...good things became of my idea as I was able to convince the shop to let me carry "both" blade lengths (4" & 4 5/8") in stainless! That's still true to this day!
Now: How about somebody gettin' close on the option count?
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: JerryG

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 09:45 PM

So I was correct, SS isn't an option. But, based on the model #3 the special blade forging and sheath would be?? So... 10 options???
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/18/15 11:15 PM

So would the stainless! Model #3's come standard in carbon steel.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/19/15 12:38 AM

I see at least 10 options.
Posted by: Raindog

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/19/15 04:35 AM

Nobody is counting the sheath/sharpener options. Sharpened top edge.
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 07:57 AM

Capt,
I've got an order at the shop with an original ship date of 7/2/15. Which now has a new "estimated" ship date of 9/10/2015, and still no word from the shop. Any news from the shop on how far back the new "estimated" ship dates are?
Thanks
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 08:09 AM

Rocky,
I just picked up (a little over a week ago) my June 25th order. You can call the shop as I have no idea exactly when customer's orders ship. I would guess yours is very cose to completion and shipping.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: You have one coming from me around New Years!...CCS
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 10:05 AM

Rocky,
I just got this, via text, from Scotty. He asked me to post this to the forum and to tell you that your knife will ship tomorrow!
Nice knife!
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 03:56 PM

Beautiful knife!

Capt..... When are the special pine cones supposed to ship? Are they December as well?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 04:58 PM

Probably early-mid 2016... December shipments will be September scheduled orders. Folks who took advantage of pre-ordering at the Blade show may start seeing some orders around Christmas.
Point of fact: Maybe some know this. Most certainly some do not. As an authorized Randall knife dealer, my (our) knife specifications need to be "in house" over 60 days "prior" to the "scheduled" shipping dates. 2 key words there. My orders are due out the last Thursday of each month (5 Thursdays are an exception). The Blade show was held in June. That means July & August orders were already in the books. September was the "earliest" those (June) orders could be submitted. Now: Add the fact that the Randall shop is 2+ months behind schedule and you can see that no dealer could take an order with a quicker delivery time than the end of November at the Blade show.
Hope this helps,
Capt. Chris
Just to wet some whistles...
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 05:03 PM

Thank you.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 05:12 PM

By the way, Bill. You're a member in good standing in the RKCC. (Might wanna' check out the club build!)
Capt. Chris
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 05:13 PM

WOW!!!!!
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 05:18 PM

When signing up for RKCC should I receive any info, like Member# or something. I signed up 9/12 and have not heard anything.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 05:29 PM

Well...I don't recognize "Ram King" but if you'll email me @
RKCCLUB@aol.com I'll let you know what the deal is. This is the ordering questions-n-answers forum.
Thanks, Capt. Chris
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 05:49 PM

James Caruso... sorry Cap! email sent
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 06:13 PM

Okay, I'm ready for another club order! Got money burning a hole......
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 06:31 PM

YES!!! and I can't wait!!! for that one
did not want to bother the shop....I'll just keep waiting
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 09:35 PM

As the Captain said, we have to have our orders in 60 days before our scheduled delivery dates.

My September 17th stated delivery date can be expected to be in my hands in November-December.

Back in the Spring, "Cut-Down Tang" models, (most of the sporting models and Bowies) were arriving two months after stated delivery date & "Full-Tang" models, (#14, #15, #16, #28, etc) were arriving three months after stated delivery date.

They seemed to be catching up because my May 21st shipment of "CDT's"came around August 6th, and the "FT's" came the next day!
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 09:44 PM

I'm waiting on a pair of knives from you Buck, approx. Nov. 20th. give or take a couple months.....lol
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/21/15 10:16 PM

Baaad to the cone! I mean bone. No, I mean cone.
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 09/26/15 03:46 PM

It is now Fall......I can smell the pine cone!
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/05/15 01:13 PM

Model #16
Nickel Silver double hilt option

Do they update the lanyard hole "liner" tubing to match the hilt or do they run with brass regardless?

(edit to add) Is this (lanyard hole "liner" tubing) an available "call" option?

Thanks!

Rob++
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/06/15 12:37 AM

A nickel-silver hilt has a color-matched wrist thong hole liner.

A Combat Companion (my favorite military model), sawteeth, nickel-silver hilt, black micarta grip, border patrol handle, wrist thong hole.
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/06/15 04:00 PM

That answers my primary concern, thanks!
Posted by: Raindog

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 07:38 AM

I used to know this but have been out of it for so long that I can't remember and can't find it with the search. If you order a 25-style handle (N25?) on a 12-9/14, does that automatically make it a single hilt knife or does it retain the double-lug hilt and you have to separately specify the single hilt? Thanks.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 07:51 AM

Lugged hilt with a B25 handle...if you want N25 you must specify this.
Posted by: Raindog

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 08:06 AM

Thanks, Scott.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 09:26 AM

Gary,
Nickel silver lugged hilts are not an order option. The #12-9", with #14 grind, featuring an "N-25" handle (which is: nickel silver hilt, aluminum & black spacers, duralumin butt cap, leather/stag/leather handle material) will come with a nickel silver double hilt which is "forward curved" usually. Any other hilt shaping should be specified with your order. For instance:
* NS1 (Nickel silver single hilt
* SQH (If you want the single hilt "squared on top")
* NS2-#1 (If you want a Model #1 style double hilt
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 09:55 AM

The good Captain is a plethora of information!
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 12:10 PM

He's a veritable smorgasbord, an overflowing cornucopia, of all things RMK ... our "Alex Trebek" of Randall knowledge. Let's make it a true daily double Captain... was a lugged nickel silver hilt ever an option?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 12:43 PM

Truthfully: I have one in my "Stash" and I have seen "2" others...Total! That is in the officially "rare" category!
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: As soon as I put the "KNIFE KNEWS" to bed and get back from Tulsa (after Thanksgiving, most probably) I'll post some photos...CCS
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Wally
was a lugged nickel silver hilt ever an option?


Wally,
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong please, but I believe there was a 12-9 / 14 with nickel silver lugged hilt at a shop sale couple of years back.
I was not there, but seems I remember hearing about it. The "hidden treasure" of being present at a shop sale. And again, iirc the first numbers chosen passed on it ????
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 03:20 PM

"Pure" Silver is an option still, for "a few dollars more"
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 04:53 PM

I believe "pure silver" would be a customer supplied material.

:-)Rocky
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 06:09 PM

Yessir, I've only got one, and it's not the rare nickel silver, just plain old silver silver.
[img]http://i43.tinypic.com/f4g46b.jpg[\img]
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 06:10 PM

Yes, there have been one or two available in the spring sales...not entirely sure which ones they were though I believe they were Ivory and NS lugged hilt 12-11 Smithsonian's...
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/08/15 06:15 PM

I really need another Ivory handled 12-11 Smithsonian! This time with a NS lugged hilt! lol

I guess not, huh?
Posted by: Raindog

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/11/15 04:50 AM

I assume that it isn't as I've never seen one but is a crow's beak butt available for a model 25-style handle? That would look sweet!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/11/15 05:55 AM

It is "not" available Gary.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: tunefink

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/11/15 07:31 AM

But it has been done.........

Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 11/11/15 08:17 AM

That's a beauty!
Posted by: JE6245

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/07/15 06:01 PM

For "name etching", RMK web site says it's limited to one line for small knives and two lines for large knives. Would a Model 15 be a large or small knife for this purpose? I'm thinking small but I'm usually wrong. A friend is planning to get a 15 for a family member graduating from the Air Force Academy and wants to know the limit on the etching. Thanks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/07/15 07:04 PM

2 lines of etching are available on the #15.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/08/15 06:37 PM

Are the N25 and B25 options available for the Mini-27?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/08/15 06:47 PM

Only with the exception of the "Copper Mini" (which had a #25 styled handle, green micarta center) all #27 minis are the original (13 spacer) configuration.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/08/15 07:20 PM

aw shucks.

Thanks!
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/10/15 04:32 PM

Does the N25 option include NS1 and aluminum butt-cap by default?

Also, does the B25 option include BH1 and brass butt-cap?

Thanks. smile

Rob++
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/10/15 07:54 PM

Yes sir, we try not to mix them up, however, we have made B25 with aluminum spacers and vice/versa with N25 by mistake!!
Posted by: Leatherman

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/11/15 08:57 AM

I wanting to switch it up a bit so when I order my next 5-6 woodcraft style can I get a maroon BP micarta? Seems in years past this wasn't available but as I read the catalog today it seems like it is? Maybe I always had it in my head it wasn't because it's not available on a full tang...
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/11/15 02:11 PM

It's doable.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/16/15 06:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Buck Buchanan
A nickel-silver hilt has a color-matched wrist thong hole liner.

A Combat Companion (my favorite military model), sawteeth, nickel-silver hilt, black micarta grip, border patrol handle, wrist thong hole.


Assuming double-hilt is standard with ST, does NS1+SQH (as-pictured) count as one, two, or three options?
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/16/15 11:05 PM

A double hilt may be standard on models with sawteeth, but a single hilt can be ordered on many models that come standard with double hilts.

If you look at the the various models in the "Knives Of The Week - Models #1-#28, you can find a number of models, standard with double hilt, custom made with single hilt.

The knife you asked about has six options, although one is a non-chargeable option, the squared hilt. The other five chargeable options are: sawteeth, nickel-silver hilt-single, black micarta, border patrol handle, and wrist thong,

"does NS1+SQH (as-pictured) count as one, two, or three options?" One chargeable option & one non-chargeable option.

"NS1 (nickel-silver hilt-single counts as one chargeable option.
"SQH" should have been "sqh" (squared hilt) and counts as one non-chargeable option. Non-chargeable options by virtue of their name do not count toward the five chargeable option limit.

One can order, for example, a model with:
five chargeable options (ST, NS1, BM, WT & BPH)
two non-chargeable options (sqh [squared hilt], & all-red spacers (or all black)
two chargeable sheath options, black and left-handed
AND one non-chargeable sheath option: no-hone sheath.

The only options that count for the five-option limit are the chargeable options to the knife.
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/17/15 12:59 AM

Awesome, thanks for clarifying.

One more question about hilt options and I'll leave everyone alone for a week or two...

When going from brass lugged to nickel forward curved (using a model 12 an example), is that one chargeable option or two?

Thanks again.
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/17/15 09:47 PM

I believe that would be two chargeable options, but Chris or Scott need to step into this enquiry.

If you were going from a lugged brass hilt to a nickel-silver forward curved hilt, I suspect two chargeable options.

Primarily because you're going from brass to nickel-silver.

IF it is two options, the price will be:
Option #1. Nickel-Silver Hilt-Double (NS2) @ $30.00
Option #2. Forward Curved Hilt (FCH) @ $25.00

Remember there are five big Bowies, all Model 12's.

For example, if you are talking about the "Bear Bowie", it comes standard with a brass forward curved hilt. If you were to order it with a nickel-silver forward curved hilt, I believe you will only be charged for the nickel-silver hilt-double @ $30.00, since the forward curved hilt is standard with that model.

Hope Scott will clear the air, I am easily confused. Where am I?

Hope this helps,

Buck
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/17/15 09:53 PM

There is no charge to change a lugged hilt to a curved forward hilt on a bowie...there would be a charge for the nickel silver though...
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/17/15 09:58 PM

Thanks, Scott. I knew I had a 50 - 50 chance of possibly but slightly being right or wrong, depending on the roll of the dice on three throws.
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 12/19/15 12:43 AM

Thanks Buck and Scott.
Posted by: Raindog

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/24/16 09:43 PM

I seem to recall from a few years ago (and my memory may very well be faulty) that the wait time from the shop for a Triathlete was much shorter than for a catalog knife. Is this still the case? Or is my old-man memory playing tricks on me?

I searched the forum and couldn't find the answer.
Posted by: tunefink

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 12:07 AM

The Tri and the #10's used to be shorter...... but no more.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 10:39 AM

I'm seeing about a 6 month wait on the Tri's I have been ordering the last couple of years. About the same time frame on the 10s also.
Ordering through dealers, not shop ordered.
Posted by: tunefink

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 10:40 AM

Direct from the shop Mike? I thought they had went to the same delivery as the standard models.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 10:42 AM

I edited to note these were dealer ordered knives. You're fast!!
Posted by: tunefink

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 10:43 AM

Sorry..... cool
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 11:44 AM

Dealer orders are the only way to go!
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Tattoo Bill
Dealer orders are the only way to go!

Beg to differ with you there Bill. It's not the only way..
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 01:30 PM

I think Bill means for "speed" it is.
I have knives on order which is great, but I also really enjoy checking dealer stock or seeing the Capt. at various shows and getting to see what I am purchasing before I commit. And the shop sales as well, but those make it harder to get "exactly" what you want, but people seem to pull great treasure's from them just the same. It is all personal preference really.
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 02:36 PM

Absolutely! If you want a NEW Randall in a quick time, go to a Dealer. If you want USED knives, eBay is the best solution.

I have knives coming from Captain Chris Stanaback and Buck Buchannan (Fayetteville Arms Room) this month. I have also purchased approx. 100 Randall's used in 2015.
Posted by: tunefink

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 04:10 PM

What's the difference between "new" fresh from the shop.......and a knife that is bought from someone other than the shop or an authorized dealer, but is in dead mint condition? Both would seem to carry the same value and be considered "unused".
Posted by: Eric

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 04:21 PM

Mint, everyone has their own idea of what that word means. Even with drop dead mint.

Drive a car you just bought 5 miles, no longer new. But still drop dead mint.
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 04:24 PM

Eric's point just about covers it.
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 04:31 PM

Warrantee isn't going to cover a "used" knife if it wasn't sold to the "original" owner...... Pretty Simple, buy from a dealer and shipped to you in 6 months.

There is a Major difference between an "Authorized Dealer" and everybody else, including myself.

Duke McCaa is another fine dealer in this side of the earth!
Posted by: tunefink

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 04:45 PM

Drive a car 5 miles and the value drops..... I have not seen that be the case on Randalls.

Warranty is a consideration to some, for sure.

To each their own, as long as they are enjoying the hobby.
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 05:00 PM

Just when I thought the title of this page was "New Randall "ordering" questions...........Who knew?
Posted by: Raindog

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 06:18 PM

Getting back to the question that prompted the last few messages, I asked about ordering from the shop for a reason. Contrary to what some say here, ordering from a dealer isn't always the ideal situation. In the past, I have encountered "push-back" (not refusal) to order Triathletes from a dealer because he stated that he preferred to keep those slots open for the catalog (read: more expensive) knives.

1. The dealer is not a member of this forum, as far as I know.
2. The request made some sense as, at the time, I could get the knife just about as fast from ordering from the shop as I could from him.

I hesitate to share the above as I don't want it to appear that I am bashing a dealer. I'm not. I was just curious as to whether that situation still existed since I am considering purchasing a Tri.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 06:28 PM

Gary,

Several years ago I was told the EXACT same thing, when I inquired about ordering a Tri.

I don't see that scenario happening these days.
Posted by: tunefink

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 06:30 PM

I "think" the dealers are limited to the number of Tri's and 10's they can order.....
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 06:33 PM

Gary, Same with the Tailor.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 07:42 PM

To answer the question, no, the triathletes and tailors are no longer a quick order thru the shop, every model is at a 4 yr delay...

And at this time, I'm pretty sure any dealer would be more than willing to open a spot for either...
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 08:24 PM

Well then... I'm keeping all mine!!!!!
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 08:25 PM

Thanks DW!
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/25/16 08:27 PM

Thanks DW!!!!!!
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/26/16 03:37 PM

Usually, the only limitation to authorized dealers is for the Bowies, and new models just introduced.

I am limited to only three Bowies per shipment. When the New Copper Models came out, we were limited to 10% of our allocation for the Copper Companion, and 20% for the Mini 27-Copper.

I hope this year I can save room for a Copper Companion for myself. I gave up all my allocations in 2015 so my customers could be the "first kid on their block" to have one of the new copper models.
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/26/16 04:35 PM

And I appreciate that Buck! I should have my 2 Copper knives here tomorrow from you!
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/28/16 07:21 PM

Is this doable?

non-catalog #8 4" Old Style Trout and Bird knife (clip point)
double NS hilt, #1 shape
leather handle, commando shape
duralumin butt cap

I was looking at the Bear Bowie and the Little Bear Bowie and thought, "huh, wonder if I could build a Baby Bear Bowie?"

Thanks.
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/28/16 07:26 PM

Going to look KILLER if it is!!!!
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/28/16 07:36 PM

I'm pretty sure it can be done. I saw a fighting hilt on a "low S" model 8 a couple of weeks ago, one of the banner advertisers here had it on their website.
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/28/16 08:04 PM

Here is one of my custom Model 8-4" with a few of the options you're thinking about. (okay, ONE of the options, kinda). But you can see what is possible! lol
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/28/16 08:44 PM

Leather handle is doable on the standard #8-4" but I am not sure about the "Old Style".
I will fine out, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 01/28/16 11:30 PM

There's a Stanaback Special posted back in Sept 2011 in the "Knife of the week - Stanaback Special" thread, brass #1 double hilt and leather, that would look very similar.

Biggest difference being 3/16" vs. 1/4" blade material, of course.
Posted by: pappy19

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/15/16 04:06 PM

I have an opportunity to obtain an "Oosick", a walrus penis bone for a reasonable price. Has anyone used this as a handle material on a Randall? If so, what was the result as in how did it turn out? Looks like it would be really good for scrimshaw.

Pap
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/15/16 04:46 PM

I have Oosic on many of my custom knives, but only as spacers. I have never seen an entire handle made out of it.
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/15/16 06:06 PM

Here's a nice bowie from Mike Mooney, who says, 'The "Southwest Bowie" is the biggest knife I've made, so far, with a 12" file-worked blade of Jim Fergusson damascus, blued nickel silver fittings and stabilized ancient oosic handle.' Such a handle material might look pretty nice on a Model 12.
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/15/16 07:19 PM

This is one of my custom Dan Rodkey knives.
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/15/16 07:21 PM

http://www.justcustomknives.com/listings...sik-handle.html


http://www.rexroatknives.com/gallery/k04416-rexroat-kirk-003/
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/15/16 09:33 PM

Here's a phone photo of phase one of a work in progress I have in motion with the Captain. This handle was done by Gene Beal. There is at least 1 more big brother coming out soon!

Wish I had time to slow down to take quality pic's! Just running too fast!
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/15/16 09:35 PM

Pic does not even come close to real thing!!!
Posted by: desert.snake

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/16/16 01:03 AM

I remember Captain Chris showed somehow smile

"Knife Of The Week Model 12, Part Deux" #79011 - 07/29/10 10:29 PM



Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/16/16 11:42 AM

Does the Oosic need to be treated before installing?
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/16/16 03:06 PM

RMK no longer puts this material on our knives, it is too porous (the dust just floats in the air) and looks awful when finished...
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 02/16/16 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Windsor
Is this doable?

non-catalog #8 4" Old Style Trout and Bird knife (clip point)
double NS hilt, #1 shape
leather handle, commando shape
duralumin butt cap

I was looking at the Bear Bowie and the Little Bear Bowie and thought, "huh, wonder if I could build a Baby Bear Bowie?"

Thanks.


I put an order in yesterday. Got an e-mail from RMK today:
Quote:
With regards to your order for a Model 8 -4 Old Style, it is not possible to get a 'leather stacked' handle on this knife.
...
Please advise an alternate material or you might want to switch to a Model 8 in order to get the leather handle.


Guess that answers that.

No big worries, I changed my order to shop-supplied walnut. Should still look awesome.
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 02/16/16 03:35 PM

That stinks, but you are correct it should still look awesome with the Walnut!
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 02/20/16 04:41 PM

Another question came to mind.

What are "standard" options with a Model 14 (or Model 15) CDT?

What I've gleaned from this thread:
hilt: brass double (#1 shape)
spacers: rwb

What I don't know exactly:
handle material
handle shape
butt cap
wrist thong?

(or to word it another way, if you ordered a Model 14 CDT with no other options, what shows up in the mail?)

Thanks.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 02/20/16 05:19 PM

#1 handle shape leather/DB, just like the #1...
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 02/20/16 05:58 PM

...and you can get the 12-9 configured like a Model 1, too!
Posted by: desert.snake

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 02/26/16 06:59 AM

Interestingly, someone put bog oak on handle?
I have a piece of the age of 3500 years.
Or better ordered ebony or african blackwood? smile
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/03/16 06:14 PM

Originally Posted By: pappy19
Does the Oosic need to be treated before installing?


Take a look at this one Pappy! One solid 5"+ piece of Oosic on a Model 14 Solingen "Humpback" blade.
Posted by: pappy19

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/03/16 07:02 PM

Oooooosick!!!!

Pap
Posted by: alan_grombacher

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/06/16 12:30 AM

Steve,

Great knife. My #2 son has had one just like yours for a while now. It is his favorite bush knife. The fighter guard looks good on a #12 9 inch Sportsman.

Alan
RKCC-CMI-010

Originally Posted By: Holzinger258
...and you can get the 12-9 configured like a Model 1, too!
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/12/16 08:59 PM

O.K...I'm looking to do a #2-8" I would like a nickel silver lugged hilt....It appears that brass is the only option....BUT I'm confident that I've seen nickel silver, or am I loosing my mind....no jukes guys!! well, hell, I really don't care...jokes are fine at my stage...
:-)Rocky
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/12/16 09:06 PM

Rocky

NSFC Nickel Silver Forward Curve hilt. It's possible that someone made a pure silver lugged hilt. Maybe that's what you remember.
Posted by: tunefink

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/12/16 09:13 PM

They exist, but they are not offered as an option........ purty rare.



Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/12/16 10:06 PM

You would have to supply the hilt Rocky. Sorry.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/12/16 10:11 PM

Even supplying a NS Lug is NOT an option...
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/12/16 10:22 PM

DARN!!! foiled on all sides!!!
the humanity!!!
I will have to rethink my build!!
:-(Rocky
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/12/16 10:22 PM

But a pure silver hilt is ... $$$
Posted by: thevalueman

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/12/16 10:28 PM

Well, per DW I'm not even sure if silver is possible....
I've inquired about silver....it's not cheap....not at all...
:-)Rocky
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/12/16 10:39 PM

I have some fine silver but the costs involved in founding lugged hilts was a good lot-a-money and I passed on it.
Capt. Chris
PS: Don't forget the option of #14 styled (heavy) nickel silver double hilts! I just sold a righteous one off of my website.
Best, Capt. Chris

Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/12/16 10:40 PM

I picked up a pure silver lugged hilt at the shop in 2009.
Posted by: Byrdguy

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/13/16 07:47 AM

The 14 style hilt on the #1 looks pretty darn sweet. Never been a fan of lugged hilts.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/13/16 09:08 AM

I love this look on a Model 1 cool
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/13/16 10:54 AM

Mike,

You just gave me an inspired thought for my next knife build. Thanks for posting.
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/13/16 01:58 PM

Originally Posted By: thevalueman
I will have to rethink my build!!
:-(Rocky

If you are rethinking, how about forward-curved? Here's an 8" Model #2 with pure silver hilt and collar...
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/13/16 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Holzinger258
Here's an 8" Model #2 with pure silver hilt and collar...


That's a good scrimshaw away from being a sacrificial dagger. cool
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/13/16 10:17 PM

I know that square cut handle material has certain dimensional requirements that have to be met to be accepted.
How does it work for round stock material ??
Posted by: Hanks

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/13/16 10:33 PM

I agree. Wow. Like the whole package. Gets the gears turning for a new build.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/13/16 11:34 PM

Mike,
Round material needs a diameter of the largest rectangular size for the same size knife. For example: A RMK Model #1-7" requires rectangular stock measuring: 1 1/8"x 1 1/4"x 4 3/4". Round stock needs to be: 1 1/4" (diameter) X 4 3/4" long.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/14/16 07:57 AM

Thanks Capt. for the info, much appreciated..
Posted by: Raindog

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/15/16 02:11 AM

If I recall correctly, at one time, when you ordered from the shop, you could order a 2nd sheath. For example, you could order the knife with a standard sheath and pay extra to get a waxed sheath. Is this still possible?

Also, I seem to remember being able to order a non-leather sheath for the model 16. I assume that this is non longer available since it isn't listed in the catalog. But then again, neither is red/blue micarta and we saw how I messed that up.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 05/15/16 09:00 AM

One sheath per knife, Gary. The only exception is the #16. You can request the waxed "C" style..."&" the nylon, which is still available.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Robert Frey

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/06/16 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
One sheath per knife, Gary. The only exception is the #16. You can request the waxed "C" style..."&" the nylon, which is still available.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris


Do you know the charge for the extra nylon sheath Capt.?

Also, is this option list do-able?

Model 16 “Diver”
+Sawteeth
+Nickel Silver Single Hilt
+Orange Micarta - CW
+Border Patrol Handle


Rob
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/06/16 10:07 PM

Totally doable...and the extra sheath runs $65.00.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: JE6245

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/15/16 04:03 PM

I have been told that the Model 20 Ward Gay comes only with N/S hilt and only black or maroon micarta. True? Can you get it in stainless or is it carbon only? Thanks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/15/16 04:25 PM

True...NS and carbon, red, white & blue spacers "ONLY"...No >
* Stainless
* Brass hardware of any kind
* Other handles except maroon or black micarta* Squared hilts (a no-no)
Hope this helps...I have been fortunate enough to get examples of the new Ward Gay Yukon Skinner...as well as Thuya burl. I will be posting photos as soon as applicable.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: JE6245

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/15/16 05:03 PM

Thanks Captain!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/15/16 05:27 PM

Yep! No problem. I am editing some photos at this time. Tomorrow: I'll get the "nod" (hopefully) and be able to post one or two...
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/15/16 06:00 PM

Pictures of both the Model 20 Ward Gay knives and the new wood are posted under the club news link by Randall Dealer Buck Buchanan if anyone is interested....
Posted by: oldguy

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/15/16 07:28 PM

And the price for the Yukon Skinner as shown in the picture is????
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/15/16 11:41 PM

OK,
More to come on everything "new" from the Randall shop. but the price will run $540.00 initially.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: Sneak peak...
Posted by: JE6245

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/16/16 10:32 AM

Different topic -- I have seen on Clinton Specials what looks to me to be a reduced flange butt cap. Is that what this is and, if so, is it available on other knives? Here's a picture that shows what I'm talking about (picture stolen from Eric on another thread). Thanks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/16/16 07:00 PM

Flanged duralumin butt cap. Yes: It is available on a number of other RMKs.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/17/16 04:10 PM

Can the Carving set be ordered with a handle material other than stag?
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/17/16 04:18 PM

Yes.
Guido and vklough46 posted these pics on this forum...
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/17/16 04:42 PM

Thank you !
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/17/16 04:52 PM

Many other variations can be had Wally.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/17/16 04:55 PM

Thuya burl ? grin
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/17/16 05:21 PM

Yes: As of late September orders...(about 4 weeks from now) I can order #6-9", Complete sets, in Thuya Burl.
Hope this helps,
Capt. Chris
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/22/16 12:29 PM

Capt. Chris,

I own a Model 16 Diver with waxed sheath. Is it possible for me to purchase the Randall nylon sheath for it as well? Can I simply order one from Randall or do I have to send my knife to them for confirmation? Thanks.

If you've previously answered this question, I apologize for the repeat, but I did not turn it up in a site search.

Thanks.
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/22/16 12:34 PM

Call the shop, they may have 1 in the show room. They do from time to time.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/22/16 10:20 PM

I can get you one also. No problem.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/24/16 11:46 AM

Thanks for the advice. I called the Randall shop and I was able to order a Model 16 nylon sheath directly from them. I appreciate the assistance.

Bob Carlin
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/24/16 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By: rfcarlin
Thanks for the advice. I called the Randall shop and I was able to order a Model 16 nylon sheath directly from them. I appreciate the assistance.

Bob Carlin


No problem Bob. I am in there every few weeks or so and it seems like there is usuall
y 1 or 2 there. It's great they were able to set you up with an order though.
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/24/16 12:18 PM

This touches upon something that I heard but wanted to verify...

If I order a #16 Diver and specify nylon sheath, does it come with both?
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/24/16 12:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Windsor
This touches upon something that I heard but wanted to verify...

If I order a #16 Diver and specify nylon sheath, does it come with both?


Look on page 133 of this post.
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/24/16 02:34 PM

Originally Posted By: RamKingJC
Originally Posted By: Windsor
This touches upon something that I heard but wanted to verify...

If I order a #16 Diver and specify nylon sheath, does it come with both?


Look on page 133 of this post.


Look at that.

Thanks!

Just for everyone else, here's the post: http://www.knifetalkforums.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=141975#Post141975
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/24/16 02:50 PM

Anytime!!
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/24/16 05:00 PM

If you "specify" nylon...that's what you'll get. If you specify Waxed leather...that's what you'll get. If you "specify" both...that's what you'll get, usually. Sometimes the shop is out or running low on nylon sheaths.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/24/16 05:09 PM

oh, good to know. Thanks Cap'n.
Posted by: pyronaute

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/26/16 06:51 PM



That "Chef-esque" Cattleman is cool!

What's the MSRP on that puppy?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/26/16 07:59 PM

Cattleman runs (starts at) $370.00
Add stainless steel @ + $55.00
All red spacers are: N/C
Substitute BM for stag @ +$20.00
Border patrol handle shape-+$25.00
Total, without S&Ins. is: +$470.00
That's pretty close anyway. Hope this helps.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/26/16 09:22 PM

wrist thong hole: $25 -- ?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 06/27/16 08:29 AM

Yep!
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/06/16 03:56 PM

BH1: brass single hilt
BH2: brass double hilt
NS1: nickel silver single hilt
NS2: nickel silver double hilt

Out of curiosity, what are the codes for reduced hilt, brass and nickel silver?

Thanks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/06/16 05:27 PM

BH/RDH
NS/RDH
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/07/16 12:51 PM

Thanks!
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/18/16 01:11 AM

Can a Combat Companion be sent back to the shop, to get sawteeth added?
Thanks!
Posted by: Eric

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/18/16 08:28 AM

Wally, I was told no. The blades made for sawteeth are prepared differently than the blades made without teeth. Eric
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/18/16 04:16 PM

A CC is ground the same either way, so yes, on the Combat Companion you can return them and have the ST option added...
Posted by: rodbrown

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/18/16 05:12 PM

Scott

If a person wanted ST and with that addition, the knife became a 6 option knife, would RMK still do the ST?
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/18/16 05:29 PM

I'm afraid not Sir...sorry
Posted by: Wally

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/18/16 06:21 PM

DW, Just to clarify, a CC can be returned, and teeth added, but the option limit on any new knife, other than dealer specials is 5, regardless of what the options are?
Posted by: rodbrown

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/18/16 07:35 PM

Thanks Scott. The question was not for me personally, but I had to ask.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/18/16 08:13 PM

Correct Wally...
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/19/16 09:18 AM

Good morning all.

Can anyone identify which RMK dealer specials remain available from the dealers (or, alternately, which are still made by RMK)?

I am aware that the Denmark Special is now offered as a non-catalog knife from RMK.

I see that Nordic Knives and Buxton Knives still lists their specials as available on their respective websites.

I did not see any specials offered on the Clinton Knives website, the A.G. Russell website, or on Capt. Chris' website (Capt.'s last listing was for the 25th Anniversary Stanaback Special which is sold out).

I found no information for Mr. Keneflick or Mr. Crider. I did read some posts on this site from a few years ago that Mr. Keneflick had stopped taking new orders. His contact information appeared to have changed. Did Mr. Crider pass away?

Am I missing anyone?

Thanks.
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/19/16 09:25 AM

Bob
Doug Kenefick has large and small Sasquatch
Capt. Chris has large and small Stanaback Specials
Gary Clinton has Tom Clinton Special
Rick Bowles has Rick Bowles Special
Nordic has their Special
A G Russell has their special
Wayne Buxton has the Buxton fighter, thanks James
I think that is all that are currently available

Peter
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/19/16 09:27 AM

Close Tom King... but you forgot the Buxton Fighter!!
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/19/16 09:29 AM

And yes, Jack Crider has passed away... frown
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/19/16 09:35 AM

Peter and James,

Thanks for the amazingly fast response.

I'm a newbie building an RMK collection and I've decided to work on picking up the dealer specials. I just picked up a numbered Stanaback Special (type II) on ebay.

I need to reach out to some of these folks. I just stumbled across the Buxton website and saw their special still listed there.

I've bought knives from Gary Clinton, and I will reach out to him to see if I can order a Clinton Special.

Thanks again. Greatly appreciated.
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/19/16 09:53 AM

That was you! !!! SMH! I am visiting my grandmother in NJ and forgot about that auction till it was already over.
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/19/16 09:55 AM

You can definitely order a Clinton from him... he gets them on his site once every other month or so it seems, though they usually come in some sort of wood. If you order a new 1 though it comes in less then a year. Gary is cool, if you email him or call he will do everything he can to walk you through it. I have had great communication with him over the last year
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/19/16 10:07 AM

James, yes that was me.

I had been looking for a Stanaback Special, and I liked the leather handle on that knife a great deal (I love the retro look and feel of stacked leather). I felt that the price was in a pretty reasonable range for one of the original 200 numbered Stanaback Special Type II knives.

Now all I have to do is find the matching number for a Capt. Chris' Type I dealer special (the type II number was under 100). I know, good luck with that.

And I've just really messed up my budget for the month by ordering a Buxton Fighter from their website. Don't worry honey...it's really an investment (at least in me maintaining my sanity if nothing else).

Thanks again for the information and words of wisdom for a new collector. And I know how it feels to miss the end of an ebay auction. I do it often enough myself.
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/19/16 10:25 AM

Not a big deal really. .. I have something pretty spectacular on the way from the Captain soooo better 2 save my cash for that purchase.
Anytime with info or help!
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 07/19/16 04:25 PM

Bob
Remember the 5 option limit does not apply to dealer specials, so you can configure them as you wish. I have had the dealers with large and small specials configured the same.

Peter
Posted by: oldguy

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 08/19/16 12:45 AM

When you order a model 14 or 15 and request a model 18 hilt that has the holes in it, is that a chargeable option? And what would the cost be if it is chargeable? oldguy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 08/20/16 05:37 AM

Charges are the same as if you were to request a forward curved double hilt, i.e. $25.00.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 08/21/16 10:43 AM

On the 27 Minis, can you request options, such as WT, thumb notches, NHS?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 08/22/16 07:55 AM

Negative Rob. Only name etching is available.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Windsor

Re: New Randall "ordering" question - 08/22/16 10:06 AM

Fair enough, had to ask.

Thanks!
Posted by: maxpastor

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/23/16 11:37 AM

I have been looking for cost on some of the options.

I can't find a cost for the saw teeth/no saw teeth option

does anyone know the cost for this option??

thanks

max
Posted by: tunefink

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/23/16 12:11 PM

Saw/No Saw is $40
Posted by: maxpastor

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 08/23/16 12:15 PM

Thank you.

max
Posted by: Lefty Fencer

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 08/28/16 12:39 AM

Just found an image in a post with five Model 5's each with a different leather handle shape!

Standard Handle
Commando Handle
Single Finger Grip
Border Patrol Handle
Finger Grips

Are these currently available order options for leather handles?
Posted by: tunefink

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 08/28/16 07:45 AM

They are indeed.
Posted by: Lefty Fencer

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/03/16 11:33 AM

Possible Order - Model 16 Diver's Knife
Blade: Stainless Steel; Saw Teeth & No Saw Teeth
Hilt: Forward Curve Nickel Silver
Handle: Border Patrol black micarta

I get 4 chargeable options

Any other options available?
Posted by: Byrdguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/03/16 12:45 PM

Anybody know what the shop charges for custom spacer options over standard RWB? Couldn't find it on their site. say Black/Brass
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/03/16 12:47 PM

Used to be $15 if I recall.
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/03/16 01:08 PM

Bingo! $15 is correct! I believe that all black or all red spacers are not an upcharge.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/03/16 01:23 PM

$20.00 for brass or aluminum spacers.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/03/16 03:17 PM

Uh oh..... Missed one!
Posted by: Lefty Fencer

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/11/16 04:56 PM

Please review my edited post above and comment if you will....

I'm not sure I could read it before editing wink

See Post:149435

Thanks to tunefink for the earlier reply!
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/11/16 04:59 PM

http://www.randallknives.com/knives/model-16-diver/
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/11/16 06:16 PM

You can order a different handle shape, sawteeth, stand-alone (not NST), Nickel ,silver single or double (standard double if a #1 style). Name etching. Name plate. Different sheath. Left-hand sheath. Green micarta...Probably more.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Lefty Fencer

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/11/16 11:45 PM

Thanks for the replies.

It would appear that there are limited options that apply to the model 16!
Posted by: Windsor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/12/16 12:35 PM

A lot of handle and end-piece (butt cap, compass, etc) options are unavailable to the "exposed tang" models, like the 16.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/12/16 12:42 PM

Rob,
That's very true..."plus" a #16, unlike a #14 or #15 is "stainless steel only" so your carbon steel blade is out as well!
Best, Capt. Chris
PS: Here's a couple of favorites from (You guessed it) The Captain's "STASH"!
CCS
Posted by: Windsor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/12/16 01:36 PM

One more "unlike the 14/15" note: CDT is unavailable for the 16.
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/16/16 11:35 AM

Is the shop now etching the blades "A/I" when an "alternative ivory" material is used in the handle?

I saw the below knife on ebay. The listing information and photos indicate that the blade is so etched (next to the RMK stamp), and I wondered if this etching has become standard shop practice since the new ivory rules became effective on July 6, 2016?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Randall-Knives-Model-1-8-Knife-Rare-A-I-Alternative-Ivory-Leather-Sheath-/142118419604?hash=item2116eafc94:g:tmYAAOSwAuZX2qKJ
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/16/16 01:53 PM

That was many years ago when they did that Bob. Beautiful knife but way overpriced.
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 09/16/16 04:30 PM

Bill, thanks for the information. I had not seen that etching before.
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 10/06/16 10:29 AM

Can anyone tell me the current shop prices for the 'non-catalog' non-catalog Triathlete and Tailor Knife? I can't find them on the website or in the current hard copy catalog. Thanks.
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 10/06/16 02:28 PM

Triathlete $280

Planet of the Apes knife $115
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 10/06/16 05:37 PM

Thank you Scott. Much appreciated. POTA knife...I love it!
Posted by: Tattoo Bill

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 10/06/16 06:59 PM

The Tailor blade is more fitting for this character, Buffalo Bill.
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 10/06/16 08:56 PM

OUCH
Posted by: Raindog

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 10/06/16 09:33 PM

"Would you cut me? I'd cut me."
Posted by: Hemingway

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 11/08/16 02:40 PM

If I send a knife back to have my name etched on it after the fact, anyone know the turnaround time I will be without the knife?

Thanks.
Posted by: CrazyCajun

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 11/08/16 07:53 PM

I'd bet ya could have it back by Christmas, but call DW at the shop. I may be outta line. But go straight to the source!
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 11/08/16 10:45 PM

Yeah!, give the guy a chance!!! As long as they is no heavy refinishing needed, turn around time should just be a few weeks at the most...
Posted by: Hemingway

Re: Randall "ordering" questions ------- Handles - 11/09/16 12:05 AM

Thanks, guys. I'll send it in after deer season--can't be in the woods without it smile
Posted by: Wally

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/21/16 07:58 PM

Good Captain, please tell me, are dealers now accepting orders for the Yukon model with the "Ward Gay" shape?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/21/16 11:13 PM

Yes,
We have been able to order them for about 3 months now. With the scheduling delays, I am still about a month or 2 before I actually see the 1st ones start to trickle in.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: maxpastor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/29/16 02:19 PM

does anyone know the cost of a ST/NST grind for a model 15??

can't find anything in this thread about it.

thanks

max
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/29/16 04:09 PM

I don’t believe you can get that on a 15. Cap and I had that discussion recently.
Posted by: tunefink

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/29/16 04:46 PM

$40

I know you can get it on a 14. Not sure why not on a 15.
Posted by: maxpastor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/29/16 04:51 PM

Thanks Tune, they don't list the cost in the Randall Cat.

I have a model 15 with the ST/NST grind but I was think of getting another one.

http://www.knifetalkforums.com/ubbthread...-#14&15.jpg

and there is one on the knife of the week thread, see above link. Maybe Randall doesn't offer it anymore in the M15. that would be to bad it really looks good on the knife.


Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/29/16 06:20 PM

Still available...
Here's the NASA #15, offered to RKCC members. One of 25! (Single or double hilt available)
Best. Capt. Chris
Posted by: maxpastor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/29/16 06:28 PM

Super looking knife Capt.

that is a great looking NASA

Very close to the one Billy Poyner has with the Jade G10 handle.
Posted by: Billy Poyner

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/29/16 11:44 PM

Max,
I have a 15 like Capt posted above.Has nickel silver squared hilt.
No Nasa logo and a 14 to match.Got them from Capt back in 2014.
Capt built them for me.Get ya one.
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/03/16 06:26 PM

Model 15, BM, BPH, WT, Waxed sheath, shipped to the former Commandant of the Naval Special Warfare Center in CA.
Posted by: Brent

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/19/17 05:53 PM

Can you order a different shaped handle on the small gambler, such as a single finger grip, or a model 22 style crowsbeak? Thanks.
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/19/17 10:11 PM

The Capt will chime in soon, but I have never seen one as you're describing.

Go to the "Knives of the week, Models 1-28" thread just down from this one, and click on the "Gambler". There are about 15 pages of discussion and photos of the Gambler with different handle material, but be aware that the older models may not be used a "pattern" for a current production "Gambler".

Kinda like requesting a "Brass-back Bowie; Not possible.
Posted by: Lefty Fencer

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/21/17 11:56 PM

Trying to be sure about various hilt options!
Assuming a model 1, is a BH2 (#14) Brass #14 style hilt available at no cost?

How about NS2 (#14) chargeable at $30?

On a model 3, is a BH2 (#14) Brass #14 style hilt chargeable at #20? NS2 (#14) at $30?

If you add holes to the above knives is this a second charge to the model 14 hilt? ($25?)
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/22/17 09:50 PM

Looks all correct to me...
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 02/13/17 11:32 AM

Brent,
The is Capt. Chris and I apologize for not answering your question earlier. I just returned from whitetail hunting season in Alabama and am just now getting to all of my "back" emails and forum "stuff"!
Yes: You can order handle and butt cap options on a Small Gambler and even get a #22 handle shape. You cannot add a crows beak butt cap however. Scott explained this is not possible due to a centering problem with the tang.Sorry for the confusion and I hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/16/17 10:31 AM

Hi everybody.
I do have 2 questions.
The first is about the F sheath. I have to say that I love that model. Does anyone know if it is possible to have it with the 25-6? Or is it only available with the 25-5?
The second one is about the model 19. I discovered on the forum that some lucky guys have a 6" blade version of this model. Is it still possible to ask for such a version of the model, now?

Thanks for the replies

Stratos
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/16/17 10:36 AM

"NO"...on both counts, sorry. Model #25-6" sheaths are of the Model "A" type. They can be ordered with or without the hone pocket, left or right-handed, tan, waxed or black leather.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/16/17 10:42 AM

Oh yes, it helps a lot. Thanks for this quick answer
Posted by: Lefty Fencer

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/17 03:06 AM

Lugged Hilt Questions
Over time there appears to be at least 3 sizes of lugged hilts on Randall knives. Maybe even 4 if you include the very massive one on the Smithsonian.

What is currently available?
Examples: Older Model 1's have a very small lugged hilt(about 2 ricasso heights between lugs with small lugs).
newer Model 1's seem to run about 3 ricasso heights with larger lugs.
Sometimes the lugged hilts look a little oversized on model 1's & 2's.

Is there only one size for most knives? About what is the lugged guard height used on the model 1's & 2's for current production?
Posted by: Eric

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/17 07:40 AM

Great question, here are 2 lugged hilt Model 1's made about the same time period. Is there a reason for the different size, other than they are custom made?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 02/27/17 10:31 AM

Custom made is correct, Eric. That's what makes them.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: boardrider

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/04/17 01:47 PM

Just an offbeat question...is the model 27 available with a double hilt and or a sharpened clip? Thanks
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 03/04/17 03:51 PM

It is "not", sorry.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Brent

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/17 06:46 AM

Can the large gambler be had with a commando shaped handle? Just thinking that with the "right shaped" handle, it would be a pretty good all around outdoors knife. Thanks for your time, and what you do for the forum.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/17 08:07 AM

1st: Griff: "No" to both questions
2nd: Large Gambler can be ordered with a variety of handle shapes, yes! Here's one of my favorites, pictured below. Hope this helps .
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Brent

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/17 02:50 PM

Thanks for the reply, Captain. On a knife like the large gambler, would the addition of a brass butt make it"butt heavy", as opposed to the aluminium butt? I'm kicking around ideas, and would like to have a neutral balanced knife,not really blade heavy, or butt heavy.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/25/17 03:05 PM

If you do brass it would have to be ordered "thin" and, perhaps, "rounded" to save weight. Most 1/4" stock, 5" blades from the Randall shop have more tip weight than a Large Gambler. The LG is too narrow and too "small-tipped" to allow for a generous amount of brass (and not be "butt-heavy").
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: oldguy

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/26/17 12:44 AM

Can you get a Sawteeth/No Sawteeth blade style on a Model 15? oldguy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/26/17 08:14 AM

"STN" as it is known is available on a number of RMKs, including the #15. Hope this helps.
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 04/26/17 08:16 AM

Per earlier posts, in answer to the question of a butt cap on a Large Gambler: I spoke with Scott yesterday and he informs me that, when ordering a butt cap on a Large Gambler, the shop automatically supplies the "thin" version.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/03/17 07:46 AM

Hi, I have a question on the steel used.
I have always thought that Randall was using 01 or 420/440c.
But in this video: "https://youtu.be/a-SSIutnzd0", the guy is talking about 154cm (at 01:04). What about this? Is it true? Is it possible to ask for that steel? Thanks in advance for the replies.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/03/17 08:07 AM

I'm checking on it..."but"...the guy also says that all of his "facts" have been checked out at the Randall shop or catalog..."&"....the hardwood available on the Model #10's is "walnut". Wrong answer! The hardwood available on the Model #10's is "rosewood"!
The shop may very well be using 154 on their stock removal blades, which the #10 is, but 440-B is the stainless used on their forged stainless knives...
to be continued...
Capt. Chris
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/03/17 09:00 AM

OK everyone,
Thanks to Scott I have received the definitive answer. Quite recently, i.e.: 2015 or 16, the shop has made the switch to 154 CM om "model #10's...only"! The reason for this change is due to the fact that the shop was receiving some stainless steel stock which had inclusions that required more effort than it should have to clean up.
The #10's, in all blade lengths are the only Randall model, at this time, being offered in 154 CM. The "other" statements made by the You-Tube guy, regardless of where or how he claims to have received his facts are incorrect. 2 examples below:
* #28's are forged
* Rosewood is the wooden scales used on the #10's..."not" walnut".
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: Thanks Scott & Jason
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/04/17 04:23 AM

Great thanks for those info.
Regards
Posted by: Brent

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/07/17 06:53 AM

What hilt options are available on the Combat Companion full tang model?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/17 11:57 AM

Brent,
Single or double hilts, squared top or standard, in nickel silver or brass are available.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: mic214

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/09/17 04:23 PM

Hi Capt.,

Any chance the shop would make up a 10-5 and a 10-7 with the drop point style blade of my 10-3?

Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 05/09/17 04:32 PM

I have had a couple of "specials", back in the day but not today.
Sorry, Capt. Chris
Posted by: desert.snake

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/01/17 04:59 AM

I do not know if I should write here or write in another section?
I'm interested in high ride sheath for fireman or 11-3.25,
but with pocket for stone, as Ruana sheath, which I noticed
on the Internet.
How do I contact Mr. Sullivan via e-mail?


Posted by: W Polidori

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/01/17 05:15 AM

You could start by sending Stickman (Danny) a PM. Use the search feature to find "Stickman".
Posted by: desert.snake

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/01/17 12:54 PM

Thank you, Warren! smile
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: 6. Randall "ordering" questions - 06/01/17 10:31 PM

Welcome, let us know how it works out.
Posted by: Windsor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/05/17 04:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
Hey everyone:
Thanks to my friend across the pond for bringing this to my attention. Even though I had received one in the past, models with thumb notches as "standard" cannot be ordered without them. I altered my original post and am posting this also so as not to confuse anyone. Sorry for the mix-up and mis-information.
Best, capt. Chris


Reaching into the "wayback machine" to help clarify for those lurking in this thread...

If you order a model that defaults with thumb notches (like, say, Model 5) and add a double-hilt option, they will build your order without thumb notches.

This wasn't mentioned earlier (or I missed it, which happens).

Last weekend, Capt. Chris was showing off his latest #5 creation with NS2 option (and sparkling white handle!), the thumb notches were missing. I caught Scott out in the wild and he verified that they don't add them if it's a double hilt.
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/06/17 04:23 PM

It makes sense...
.
AND, wouldn't it also save $5.00 (for brass version): increase $20 for double hilt, but decrease $25 for deleting notches?
Posted by: Tracer

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/06/17 05:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Holzinger258
It makes sense...
.
AND, wouldn't it also save $5.00 (for brass version): increase $20 for double hilt, but decrease $25 for deleting notches?


Not really. On models with notches as standard, like the Model 5, the notches aren't costing you $25. So deleting them would just mean you pay the same price, I assume, but don't get the notches.

Then the shop theoretically saves an infinitesimal amount of labor for not having to file the notches, though I'm sure that's wiped out by the labor of shaping the second part of the hilt.
Posted by: Windsor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/06/17 05:24 PM

Yeah, I think it's already been established that the shop won't discount the price because you saved them some work. smile

For example, order a model 18 with ST/NST. They're not going to credit you $55 for saving them the effort of not cutting teeth.
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/06/17 06:24 PM

Well, at least I tried!
.
(Can't remember what I paid for my ST-NST Model 18.)
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/19/17 02:07 PM

Can a SFG along with teardrop handle be ordered today? I had this configuration on maroon 26 some years ago. Wishing I still had this one.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/19/17 02:11 PM

Never saw or heard of a SFG/Teardrop Warren. I think that handle is simply the way it was crafted at the time, i.e. just a bit more "cut".
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/19/17 02:55 PM

Wish I had a better view of the end. It had that teardrop shape. Here's a couple more different view. Sorry for the crappy pics, old stuff. Thanks Cap.
Posted by: GCTom41

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/17 06:59 AM

Great handle Warren!

Tom Flynn
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/20/17 07:55 PM

Lots of shape and curves Tom, thank you.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/21/17 09:14 PM

Were the M18 walking sticks / spear shaft ever offered as an option, direct from Randall ?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/21/17 09:53 PM

They were not, although the shop did have Floyd Byrd make some skull crusher butt caps.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 06/22/17 05:46 AM

Thank-You Cap !!
Posted by: mic214

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/12/17 08:20 PM

Capt.,

Can you get a 5-4 with a single grip micarta handle?

Thanks,

Mick
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/12/17 09:12 PM

Yes you can...and it looks pretty cool!
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: mic214

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/12/17 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
Yes you can...and it looks pretty cool!
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris


That's great news!

I may have another knife order to run by ya in a bit:)

PS;

You wouldn't happen to have any photos of a 5-4 with a single finger grip micarta handle would you?


Never mind, I found a couple of pics through Google...... grin
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/13/17 07:01 AM

The knife of the week threads are always good sources of pictures on specific models. The Model 5 has 66 pages of info:

http://www.knifetalkforums.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=29894&page=1

One day I'll learn how to condense that link grin
Posted by: mic214

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/13/17 08:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Michael_Mason
The knife of the week threads are always good sources of pictures on specific models. The Model 5 has 66 pages of info:

http://www.knifetalkforums.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=29894&page=1

One day I'll learn how to condense that link grin


That is a great thread and I have looked at all of those beautiful Model 5's many times. I found a couple of 5-4's with BP handles, but none with the single finger grip handle.

When I did the Google search on the 5-4 a couple of photos of them came up with the single finger grip handle. One of them was actually an old listing from the Capt.

It is a great looking combo..... grin
Posted by: Billy Poyner

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/13/17 10:16 PM

I own Randall's with all red spacers,all black spacers.
Has there ever been or can they be ordered with all white or all
blue spacers?Or am I playing left field without a glove?
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/13/17 10:20 PM

There was a time when this option was available...although in almost 34 years, I do not remember a knife with all white spacers...
Posted by: Billy Poyner

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/13/17 10:23 PM

Scott
Thank you.
BP
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/13/17 10:46 PM

All blue? OK: How about a Trout & Bird, in dressed stag?
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: eLarry

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/25/17 07:01 PM

Can you order a Triathlete with no holes in handle?
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/25/17 09:33 PM

Wish it could, but no.
Posted by: Raindog

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/27/17 02:47 AM

I'm just curious why you would want to. The knife is plenty strong with the holes. Subtracting them would add nothing but weight IMHO.
Posted by: Holzinger258

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/27/17 01:17 PM

Originally Posted By: eLarry
Can you order a Triathlete with no holes in handle?

I think it would mess up the balance, unless the tang is tapered.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/27/17 02:04 PM

The tang "is" tapered. I think the skeletonized handle helps when applying epoxy and scales to make handles for it. More "surface/crannies" for the scales to adhere to.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: LarryWW1246

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/28/17 08:24 AM

The holes can also be used to wrap the handle with paracord.

Larry
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/09/17 10:59 AM

What is the difference between the "Catalog" Model 26 Pathfinder and the "Non-Catalog" #26-4 Pathfinder?

Both knives, in 'standard' dress, appear to have a 4" drop point blade of 3/16" stock tool steel, a single brass hilt and stag handle. Both can be ordered with the Model 25 handle configuration, and both (base models) are priced at $370.

I figure that there's some difference or distinction between the two, but I'm just not seeing it. Any clarification is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Bob
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/09/17 12:52 PM

B-25 option is shown in non-catalog insert. Blades are identical. Nothing else, except this $70.00 option changes, unless you want:
* Stainless (+) another $55.00
* Thumb notches (+) another $25.00
* Wrist thong (+) another $25.00
* Etc., Etc., Etc...
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: rfcarlin

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/09/17 04:16 PM

Thanks Capt. Much appreciated.
Posted by: Windsor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/23/17 04:29 PM

Found out today (direct from the shop) that the "C" sheath is not available for the 12-8 ("Bear Bowie").

I'm not upset by any measure, btw. I just wanted to share in case anyone had any plans/expectations otherwise. All good here.
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/01/17 05:40 AM

Hi,

I have a question about the hilts. More precisely the reduced hilt. Is it available on any knives? Could it be possible to ask it on a randall Fireman (with a SFG).
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/01/17 09:53 AM

I don't see why not but the sheath would be a problem. The keeper strap is positioned over the guard. There wouldn't be anyway to secure the knife. A pouch sheath would be better but you'd need to have it custom made.
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/01/17 10:06 AM

Didn't thought about that. Do u think that it can be made by Randall shop? I like pouch sheath as those made for the R10 or even better as those made for the 25.
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/02/17 10:36 PM

I believe the Model 25 sheath can only be ordered for the Model 25, and no other model. Maybe the Capt can qualify & correct my fuzzy memory.
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/04/17 05:12 AM

Indeed, the "F" sheath is only available for the #25 (The Capt has confirm it to me some weeks ago). Sad that this sheath is not available with any of the knives, because I love that sheath. I was more thinking at the sheath as some model #10. The E will be great. but I have saw some model 10-3 with another pouch sheath. But, on another hand, the standart sheath will not make much problems because I always hold my knives in a pocket or in a bag. In anyway, thanks for all the answers.
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/04/17 05:48 AM

I do have a question about the steel extra feature. All the knives offered in O1 are available in stainless steel. What about the opposite? The other way? I know that the 17 is only available in stainless steel but what about the #28 or the Fireman? Are they only available in stainless?
Posted by: Windsor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/05/17 03:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Lytridis
All the knives offered in O1 are available in stainless steel.


Some limitations on that. The bigger blades (12s and 13s above 8") are not available in SS. Even that "rule" has a caveat: 12-9 no SS available, "12-9 14 grind" SS available. (see posts #2 and 3 of this thread way back on page 1.)

Originally Posted By: Lytridis
What about the opposite? The other way? I know that the 17 is only available in stainless steel but what about the #28 or the Fireman? Are they only available in stainless?


As a general rule: if it is offered with SS standard, you cannot request non-stainless. I can't think of any exceptions to this rule but one or two may exist.
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/06/17 05:27 AM

Thank u
Posted by: Zogger

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/06/17 10:57 AM

Quote:
I can't think of any exceptions to this rule but one or two may exist.


Isn't it the exceptions that prove the rule? ;-)
Posted by: Brent

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/29/17 01:59 PM

Just a quick question, one the model 8, new style, are thumb notches a cost option? Thanks.
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 09/29/17 02:25 PM

Yes... $25
Posted by: Windsor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/21/17 04:06 PM

One more quick note..

While the #6 grind is available with the 4-6, it is not available on the 4-6 fighter. I found out with my most recent quarterly order submission (friendly e-mail from RMK about it, asking how they should proceed with my order).

Just in case you were thinking about ordering one like that. smile
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/21/17 04:23 PM

#4-6" with a #6 grind add double hilt... would make for a bad @$$$ lookin fighter.
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 11/21/17 05:39 PM

Yes it would but this is my preference.
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/17 07:08 AM

Discovering it through the forum and the authorized dealers, I'm more and more attracted by the Triathlete. I prefer it when it has a handle instead of the skeleton version. So my question is:" Is it possible to buy it already handled by the shop (with the handle material proposed by them) or do we have to do it ourselves? Although I'm not scared about abusing a knife in the field or about sharpening it, I'm thinking twice before working on it with files and grinder. Thanks.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/17 07:13 AM

Not available from the shop. I can have it done (professionally) by a couple of different sources.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Lytridis

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/14/17 07:44 AM

Great news u're telling me there. I'gona write u immediatly
Posted by: Gustaf Bäck

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/19/17 04:28 AM

Would it be possible to have the shop install a name plate, AKA escutcheon plate, in the micarta handle of a knife "after the fact"?

That is, if the knife was originally made without one.

Thank you.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/19/17 05:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Gustaf Bäck
Would it be possible to have the shop install a name plate, AKA escutcheon plate, in the micarta handle of a knife "after the fact"?

Yes sir, you could have that done.
Posted by: Gustaf Bäck

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/19/17 08:25 AM

Good news, thank you Michael!
Posted by: Colin Brolley

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 10:54 AM

What I'd really like is a Model 3-5 with a Ward Gay shaped handle, but I think that handle is only available on the Model 20. (I'm assuming that decision was made because it takes a while to shape this handle and would slow the show down?)

So, would it be possible to order a 3-5 with finger grooves and a rounded/radiused butt (no cap)? What about a teardrop with shallow finger grooves?
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 12:44 PM

Finger grips can be ordered as right handed or left handed. Or #14 style. I do not believe there is an option to customize their depth.
Posted by: Colin Brolley

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 01:05 PM

I’m left wondering if the shop will do a rounded butt on a standard shaped handle, though. I love the 3-5 blade, but aside from the odd slightly curved stag here or there, the Ward Gay handle is the only one I’ve seen that really fits the 3-5, and the shop.
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 03:44 PM

Colin,

You could ask for a thin rounded butt cap. It would get you closer to what you want IMO. You could also add finger grips I also sent you a PM.

On second thought you may be able to order a domed butt cap.
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 07:25 PM

Domed is available on certain knives & handles shapes like the Clinton special with this handle shape.
I am not sure of the choices on a model 3.
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 07:33 PM

Chief,

Bill Castleberry a well known ebay seller has many knives made with that same concave handle shape. Almost all are domed Duraluminum with Desert Iron Wood
handles.
Most are knives with blades under 4". Would be interested to see if FG could be added.
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 07:59 PM

That's my point think the dome is on the concave handle not the straight.
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 08:04 PM

Agreed, but getting back to Collin's question, I'm not aware of any handle available except a concave domed or thin rounded cap that gets him close to his wish.
Why not on a 3-5?
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 08:43 PM

Close as he will get on a model 3 I'm guessing.
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 09:28 PM

Purdy. You been hiding that one?
Posted by: Colin Brolley

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 10:08 PM

That’s quite the knife. I wonder why the caps can be radiused, but (possibly) not the capless?
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 10:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Colin Brolley
That’s quite the knife. I wonder why the caps can be radiused, but (possibly) not the capless?


Good thought, I'm gonna go out on a limb & guess that it's just like the radiused butt cap if you don't request it you won't get it.
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/27/17 11:05 PM

If you request a rounded butt on a natural piece of wood. .. along with finger grips... you are basically at a Ward gay. So the next natural progression is gonna be why not just make it Ward Gay....?? Looks an awful lot like getting around Randalls decision to stop Ward gay handles, a decision made in part because it was being abused. Without actually ordering a Ward Gay #3. Just my opinion. .. but that's what it looks like whats being proposed here.
Posted by: Colin Brolley

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/28/17 07:10 AM

It would be missing the curve on the back and the totally rounded butt, which I imagine are the features that tip the scale toward not offering it on anything but the model 20. Given the fact that we’re talking about all options offered by the shop, I don’t think we’re talking about any nefarious here.
Posted by: W Polidori

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/28/17 07:19 AM

Many stag handles have the curve you're looking for. Add FG's and perhaps a thin rounded butt cap.
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 12/28/17 08:14 PM

Originally Posted By: RamKingJC
If you request a rounded butt on a natural piece of wood. .. along with finger grips... you are basically at a Ward gay. So the next natural progression is gonna be why not just make it Ward Gay....?? Looks an awful lot like getting around Randalls decision to stop Ward gay handles, a decision made in part because it was being abused. Without actually ordering a Ward Gay #3. Just my opinion. .. but that's what it looks like whats being proposed here.


Not rounded, radiused still flat on the bottom just like the butt cap.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/02/18 01:18 PM

Happy New Year everybody,
I,along with Scott, are trying to viaualize this Model #3 completed. It has "never" been done, that either one of us can remember (& that's a fair amount of knives). A "rounded" butt "end", is what it "sounds" like is being requested. Scott will check with GTR tomorrow as Gary has already left for the day.
Me? Personally, I would never recommend it as I firmly believe the knife would appear "altered"...or even re-handled, being as it is so odd. I most certainly would try and talk a customer out of ordering it...but it "may" be possible. I know this is not a finite answer...but it's as good as we're gonna' get until the "pow-wow".
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Colin Brolley

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/02/18 02:19 PM

That’s a good point, Capt. It could stray out of the realm of “different” and into an area of “off-brand”.

I ended up putting a teardrop Model 3-5 on order with the in-radiused butt. I like the teardrop handles, but don’t see them on many 3’s, and I think the drop in the teardrop handle would do a lot to visually balance out the model 3’s “hump”.
Posted by: Chief

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/02/18 09:04 PM

Keep the receipt from Randall & or a note from which ever dealer you order it from.
in the Randall world 1st and only sometimes go hand in hand.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/03/18 11:07 AM

It's official: Ain't gonna' happen. Aside from the points already made, GTR pointed out that it would be: "Just one more thing" to keep track of and enter into the system, etc., etc... I see his point and feel his pain.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Colin Brolley

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/03/18 10:13 PM

Okay, good to know. Thanks Captain Chris!
Posted by: mic214

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/25/18 02:50 PM

Can one order a Model 15 with sawteeth on a clip point blade? I am thinking along the lines of a "Bear Camp Special" on steroids.....
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/25/18 09:12 PM

Nope
Posted by: mic214

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/27/18 06:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Dirty_Water
Nope


I wonder why?

Don’t they offer the sawteeth option on the Model 1’s?
Posted by: Dirty_Water

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 01/27/18 09:44 PM

A model 15 becomes a spearpoint blade when sawteeth are used an option, we use the same blade for the model 18-5 1/2 and it would take ANOTHER forging to offer a clip point w/ sawteeth, and as you mentioned, RMK already offers a model 5 with the sawteeth on the 6, 7 and 8" blades.
Posted by: Windsor

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/05/18 02:45 PM

Can you order the 3-1/4" Model 11 with the Pouch sheath (like #25-5")?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/05/18 03:50 PM

Negative. We would have to get that made separately.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/05/18 04:42 PM

We know a gal!!!! 8-)
Posted by: Buck Buchanan

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/18 10:25 AM

I'm thinking, "no".

Like the post above, it's adding to the workload of prepared items, such as sheaths, to the system.

I believe that the model 25 sheath is restricted to just the model 25 only.

Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/18 11:59 AM

#26's can be ordered with the pouch as well.
Posted by: oldguy

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/18 02:18 PM

The green micarta that the shop uses, is it canvas micarta or linen micarta? oldguy
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 05/08/18 03:15 PM

Linen..."&"...with regards to pouch-style sheaths: Yes: A #26 comes in a pouch (but) it has a diagonal keeper strap whereas the #25 pouch style does not...
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Ironworker

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 07/10/18 12:03 PM

When did RMK quit allowing special spacer stacks,other than the ones allow today. When was the ivory micrata that cracked taken out of use. Any information would be help for dating my new/ old model 7. Thank you.
Posted by: Eric

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/07/18 02:27 PM

In regards to RMK shop doing name etching on the blade. Would this etching of a USN Logo have been done by the shop? Thanks ahead of time.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/07/18 05:34 PM

All of the military logos, etc. belonged to Tom Clinton & Pete Hamilton. Pete did all of those etchings to the best of my knowledge. I can get the logos "laser-etched" by my shop at the Cape. (The one that does the NASA "Worm & Meatball".
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Wally

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/07/18 06:01 PM

Captain, would they do "crossed cannons" or engineer castles, and such?
Posted by: Eric

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/07/18 06:33 PM

Yes, it does help Capt. Chris. I appreciate you taking the time to answer. I just bought this #16 with this logo. When I get the knife I will post it. Thanks again!

P.S. Capt. Chris, Both of my Sons earned Eagle Scout. Do you know if the shop at the Cape has an Eagle Scout Emblem they can etch along with the year they accomplished it? I would also need 2 #SS 4" to etch the Emblem/name/date on to.
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/08/18 06:10 AM

To both Eric & Wally:
If you can email me the logos in a PDF, I can find out about getting them done.
Best, Capt. Chris
Posted by: AR-Trvlr

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/15/18 06:06 AM

I'm considering ordering a #1-8 in stag w/ single finger grip and silver forward curved hilt. Would that be allowed? Any recommendations on other options? NS butt cap or NS butt plate? Sawteeth?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/15/18 07:01 AM

"All" are doable. Exempt would be a SFG handle shaping in stag. "Standard finger grips"? No problemo. It's just a matter of your taste...not mine. Recommendations would be "my" choices. I do like a nickel silver butt cap on an 8" blade: Helps to balance it out better. I would probably opt for some form of metal spacers as well.
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
PS: This is a 7 incher, but exceptional stag and the sawteeth you asked about. This one ain't for sale (It's in The Captain's "STASH")...CCS
Posted by: Steven

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/15/18 10:53 AM

Nice example Love that stag.
Posted by: Michael_Mason

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/15/18 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
I would probably opt for some form of metal spacers as well.

Ummmm..... that's something different for the Cap grin
NOT !!
Posted by: RamKingJC

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 08/15/18 02:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Michael_Mason
Originally Posted By: Captain Chris Stanaback
I would probably opt for some form of metal spacers as well.

Ummmm..... that's something different for the Cap grin
NOT !!
Posted by: Wally

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/03/18 03:10 PM

Once again I've reached a conundrum. Riddle me this... which models are available with the "teardrop" shaped handle?
Posted by: Captain Chris Stanaback

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/03/18 04:14 PM

Stanaback Special and a Pathfinder (& I'm not sure about the #26).
Hope this helps, Capt. Chris
Posted by: Wally

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/03/18 04:20 PM

No model 1?
Posted by: Peter_Kaufman

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/03/18 04:50 PM

Cap
I received a 26 teardrop from you for a forum build in 2010, but I don't know if it is possible still

Peter
Posted by: spark42

Re: Randall "ordering" questions - 10/04/18 12:15 AM

How about a #26, #DS, and a #21 with tear drop handles.
Sorry about the crappy photo.

Dennis