Current state of the forum. How to contribute.

So it looks like if everybody willing to contribute will do so we can make it at least another year.

I'm going to pay hosting fees in advance to get a little better deal and stretch the dollar.

I will have to update both the server and software to bring it up to current. Right now it is terribly insecure and out of date. I will fix that, it just takes some time. In the near future the forums may be down over a weekend day or two for this updating. I will let everybody know beforehand.

To contribute please use paypal address of knifetalkforums@gmail.com

If you would rather donate by check, etc email me at knifetalkforums@gmail.com and I will send my address.

Please just contribute what the forum is worth to you and if everybody does that we should be fine. Any donation will cover your annual buy/sell fees for the year.

With eBay changing to direct bank deposit and asking for your date of birth and SSN it might be a good year to use the buy/sell forum here to avoid Big Brother and the Tax man

I don't really want to force a membership fee for everybody as people use the forum in various frequencies and put different values on it. I'm afraid if we add a pay wall for everybody it will stifle participation. I would prefer just to have an annual "cry for help" in January if we are short on fees and let people donate what is appropriate for them.

Thanks everybody for your support!

Rick thanks! Paypal sent, to keep it going.

Tom Flynn

Not to get on the soapbox but I must. Rick mentioned ebay fees, well PayPal has fees also. More importantly, the are one of the most ardent anti-Second Amendment companies around (owned by ebay), plus they have banned several knife makers and have squashed knife deals. "Weapons of War" BS

Send rick a check.

I just sent some $ PP family and friends .

Thanks Rick.

Btw- There is No Fee for sending with Paypal "Family and Friends" . So will receive full amount .

PayPal sent.

Pap

Added 10%, that should cover any PayPal fees...

Thanks Rick for allowing us to keep the best Knife forums going!!

Picking a nit here, "formerly owned by eBay." There was a divorce in 2015.

It was a weird one, too. Employees were divvied up without any input from the "grunts in the field." I know a couple of guys that were part of eBayPayPal, neither of them cared much for PayPal side. One of them got sucked into PayPal during the split and promptly turned in his 2-week notice.

Back to the OP, I threw money at Rick via .. PayPal (apologies to crutchtip).

I hear you guys on the paypal issues.

If anybody prefers venmo you can send it there to rickt@agva.com

Thanks,

Rick

I just paid the annual knife sale fee via PayPal. Hopefully that helps some.

PayPal acquired Venmo as part of its $800 million purchase of startup Braintree in 2013.

Just can't get away from them big boys. My daughter had one of her Venmo payments end up in the wrong account. Venmo said tough, that is your mistake. Say What?
She never got the money back from either the wrong account or Venmo. BS happens, but we have a bad taste from Venmo.
But, then again, I sold a knife on my website that had been delisted and sold years ago. Somehow a buyer in Canada found it in the ether. He paid via my website account (surprise it is Paypal). I refunded his payment in full immediately and told him the knife was not available. Paypal would not refund the fees saying it is described in the User Agreement. Uh, say what again? The account was set up with the website provider. They say they have nothing to do with user agreements.

Fun, fun, fun, 'til Daddy takes the T-bird away.

After the rant..........

Paypal F&F sent to you Rick (from my website account cutomknifetrader@comcast.net)

Thank you for the forums!!!

Money sent through Paypal F&F. Thanks Rick!

cry for help is good....just PLEASE "cry for help"
my $100 is sent!!
Thanks!!
:-)Rocky

Rick,

Sending you a check for $100.00

Emailing you for address to send check.

Thanks for all you do.

Buck

Irrelevant who owns them, they are a commie company and IMO, it makes people lazy. I would not give them a penny of my money for "convenience" or some "security" bull shit they feed you. When they are banning knife transactions and knife makers, I find it hard to believe knife guys, Randall guys, would continue to use them and make them money.

Knowing that, it stuns me grown men can't write a check.

An example of my commitment to be a man of principal, I had probably 250+ shirts ordered when I posted on fb page, and most wanted to pp me funds. I directed them here, to join, and contact me pm. Orders dropped by 75%. You know why? They were too f*^cking lazy join KTF much less to send a check. I was ok with it, made my job easier and for guys that appreciate it.

I am not lazy.

I am not a "commie".

I am a grown man.

I can write a check, when I choose.

Name calling is a sure sign of a weak position.

PayPal comes with its baggage, but most things in life do.

I am a man of principal, and using PayPal does not define that.

Rick, once I create a logo button, Duke and I will become banner advertisers.

I am glad the forum was saved... thanks to everyone.

Sent what I could via F&F.

I'm in too! Kicking some in later this week! Well worth saving!!!!

Rick,

Sent some via PayPal. Let me know when you get it.

Cheers,

Alan

I think it is quite clear, to most anyway, that it makes people lazy in this type of situation, not that they are lazy people. Too lazy get a pen, fill out a check, put it n envelope, throw a stamp on it, and put it in the mail box.


You like it because as you have shifted focus from knife collector to knife dealer, it is convenient for purchasers, makes it easier to buy/sell a knife. I get it. The mental game is it gives folks the "warm and fuzzy" that their transaction is "secure" and they are "protected". PayPal helped create a climate that everyone you deal with is suspect, might rip you off, unless of course you use PayPal.

If it hasn't happened to you already, at some point you may see the specter of the PayPal guillotine of canceled transactions and possibly even a ban. They don't like knives, particularly those that look "mean".

You are too much a capitalist to be a commie Mitchell. I said it was a commie company. Perhaps you misread it.

Not certain where "name calling" was introduced, but I digress.

Weak position? Perhaps in your view, but in mine, it is a matter of principal.I am not going to use a company and its services that are not aligned with my hobby .

I will refresh everyones memories to bans in England, Canada, and elsewhere of double edged blades and IIRC, pocket knives with blades over 3", amongst others. You can look it up. In Canada, you cannot own a Bali Song, again amongst others. What?

So what I am saying is, why support a company that mirrors some of these same philosophies? Particularly for a guy that is making a move to become a major player in the knife business. I highly doubt some of your recent and large transactions were handled by PayPal. You wouldn't pay the fees, and neither would your customer(s).


Nevertheless, all I offered here was my opinion. I love Randall knives and will always be a collector first, will do whatever small part I can to ensure the health of the hobby, and supporting a company that would rather I didn't have "combat knives" ain't it.

Rick, Just sent funds F&F for the ad. Working on the art now. Thanks for the lifeline on the forum.

All for one, one for all.

Pap

Just sent a payment via PP F&F.

A lurker asked me to send a donation for him and a thanks also to Rick for continuing the forums...

I'll bet I know the lurker...don't I?
Capt. Chris

"LURKER " ..... LOL

Only the Lurker knows what knife he is looking for

contribution sent by PayPal F&F

Done.

Check is in the wind.

You guys are knocking it out of the park!

Thanks are looking really good on hosting and update fees.

I’m making a plan of attack and will post in the next day or two.

Thanks again,

Rick

Contribution sent, PayPal F&F

Contribution sent via Venmo.. Thanks Rick!

Thank you for allowing us the opportunity to keep the Forum alive!
I an on the PayPal wagon this Friday 4 sure!

My contribution is sent viw PayPal

Funds sent by PayPal..F&F no fee's...Thanks for all you have done.

I have to admit, the response from the members (and lurkers) on this subject is just refreshing to my soul! I have always felt the knife community in general are awesome people, but y'all have gone above and beyond to keep these...the greatest...forums going!! Cheers to you all!!

Check's in the mail, and coming by "phony express".

Should be there by spring.

BUCK!!!
it may never make it!!
:-)Rocky

For though of you that are sending money to Rick via PayPal Friends & Family which option are you using? I see there are 4 options.
1. Send To Bank Account
2. Send Cash For Pick-up
3. Send An Invoice
4. Send A Digital Gift Card

I Would think #1 or #2 would be appropriate and definitely not #4. I want to send a donation but I am not sure which option is appropriate.

I too think this Forum is too valuable to lose.

Option #1 is the way to go.

Thank You Very Much

Contribution paid via Paypal.

I like the banner ad, it looks great Mitchell. Good to see another sellers sight listed on the page.
I LIKE Randall Made Knives too...

I see another path on Paypal.
Sign in and navigate to your home page.
On the Quick Links select Send money.
On that page, enter Ricks email address and hit Next.
Enter the amount you want to send.
Hit Continue
Under What's this payment for?, select Sending to a friend.
You will need a linked bank account number for no fees, or you can select your credit card and pay the fees yourself.

Or, did I misunderstand your question?

The Mabry's will be making a Contribution also.

.

David

I contributed that way. Amount of money sent went right on my credit card.

Absolutely correct!!!

Rick T,

Contribution sent via PayPal Friends & Family

Thanks for your efforts in keeping this forum running all these years. You are the hidden worker.

I'm in by a payment method that I choose not to disclose.;-) Hopefully better late than never. Bunch of good folks on this forum. Thanks guys.

Hmmm. Do you have a bank account linked?
I know once it is sent, you are baked.
There is no call back or do over.
I wonder if there are different ways in Canada for Paypal?
And, then again, Paypal changes things so fast, I wonder if I am still back on a Classic view?
I went through the procedures again for a regular payment I make for a monthly fee for my website and it worked.
Please let me know if you get it figured out.
I hate to post bad directions.

Lifestyle Support Funds on the way!!

Contribution sent via paypal. Thanks for allowing us to help you save the forum.

Just sent PayPal. Really enjoy the forum. I am just getting back into Randalls. Been in and out for about 15 years. You all know the feeling !!!

Dan. Welcome aboard.

As one of our beloved "Forum Members" eloquently states...." Just when I thought I was out....They pulled me back in..."


Welcome back Dan... It's like you never left!!!!

All of this reminds me that I am probably late on my RKCC dues. Guess I better take care of that too.

Been out for a while dealing with a couple of curve balls but now on the mend. Scary that the forum was in jeopardy, this has always been a great resource and should never go away.
PP contribution sent.